Thoughts on comparing John Cena to The Rock
Ever since The Rock made his long-awaited return to WWE television Monday night, I’ve been reading comments from fans who say that his electrifying promo – which included several jabs at John Cena – proved how superior he is to Cena as a performer.
I don’t disagree, but I also think the comparison is a bit unfair.
Of course, Cena doesn’t measure up to The Rock when it comes to charisma and cutting promos. But one could make a strong argument that no one does – not even Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin and Ric Flair.
That’s what makes The Rock so special and it’s why he has transcended pro wrestling and become a bona fide movie star. Instead of looking for the next Rock, perhaps everyone should just accept that there will never be another Rock.
But make no mistake: Cena is a fantastic performer in his own right and he is an excellent choice to be WWE’s face of the company in the post-Attitude era.
And speaking of which, while I believe that The Rock would outshine Cena in any era, I do think that part of the reason The Rock comes off as the much cooler of the two is because Cena is somewhat hampered by the restrictions of WWE’s PG rating.
Cena said the word “ass” on Raw last month and a big deal was made out of it (Cena issued an apology on Twitter and claimed that he was fined by WWE). Could you imagine if The Rock had said on Raw Monday that he was going to “lay the smack down on all their candy butts?” Doesn’t have quite the same impact, does it?
So unless Cena is allowed to be a little edgier in his retort, any war of words between him and The Rock will be as one-sided as the feud between DX and The Spirit Squad.
It’s too bad we never got to see a program between The Rock and Cena when Cena was doing the foul-mouthed rapper gimmick years ago. Some may not remember this, but the wrestling fans turned on The Rock and labeled him a sellout after he began leaving for long stretches to make movies, and the negative reaction from the crowd led to him turning heel in 2003.
Right around that same time, even though Cena was a heel, the crowd started to get behind him because his character was fresh and edgy. It led to Cena turning babyface at the end of 2003 and he’s been one ever since.
As hard as it is to imagine now, if the two had wrestled each other then, the crowd probably would have gone crazy for Cena and booed The Rock out of the building.







Comments
WWE fans waiting for the next Rock is like NHL fans waiting for the next Wayne Gretzky - you're going to waiting for a long, long time.
Posted by: Mark K | February 17, 2011 8:15 AM
...just a testament to what a great Heel the Rock would have been in such a feud.... The Great one can do No wrong!! But you already knew that...
Posted by: The Mil | February 17, 2011 8:34 AM
Whatever happens, Cena stands out for me tho Rock's awesome.
i expect Cena vs the Miz for the wwe title with Rock as the special guest referee at wrestlemania
Posted by: Philken | February 17, 2011 8:35 AM
The irony is that I actually think Cena is a better in-ring competitor than the Rock was but the Rock has a far better character. I remember thinking back in 2003-04 that Cena would be the next big thing because he seemed like the perfect mix of Rock and Austin - the anti-establishment of Austin with the charisma and promos of the Rock. alas Cena has instead become the 21st century Hogan which is not necessarily the worse thing - look how much money he makes.
but it does beg the question - if Cena had stuck to the same character perhaps he would been as popular with the adult men as well as the kids and girls.
Posted by: Alvin | February 17, 2011 8:41 AM
I still stanvd behind JOHN CENA all the way...I LOVE YOU CENA!!!!!!
Posted by: Belen | February 17, 2011 8:52 AM
but CENA didn't come tell 2004 or 2005 !!! he become famous in 2006 & even if WWE turned off PG still CENA can't be better than THE ROCK I have seen cena before the PG & he wasn't better than THE ROCK even back then. but then again there will be no other ROCK or STONE COLD. I really liked ur article but at the end I didn't like it cuz it's seems like ur saying CENA could be better than THE ROCK! ppl booed the rock back then out of the too much love they felt like he turned his back isn't that by it self amazing! didn't booed him cuz he sucks or boring no no no cuz the too much love at least that what I think!
RESPONSE FROM KE: Cena debuted in WWE in 2002; he started to really get over near the end of 2003 and turned babyface. People booed Rock not only becasue they felt he sold out but also because his act was getting a little stale. I never said Cena could be better than Rock. In fact, I said just the opposite -- that Rock would outshine Cena in any era.
Posted by: lara | February 17, 2011 9:20 AM
they should let Cena freestyle in a promo against the rock at wrestlemania. let him go back to his roots and rap on him. that would at least make it an entertaining confrontation.
Posted by: arn | February 17, 2011 9:21 AM
Kevin, Do you smell a heel turn for Cena now ?
Posted by: Gregory Asch | February 17, 2011 9:36 AM
I definitely agree on Cena. They've done the same thing to Orton, Edge, everyone has had their knees cut out from under them creatively. The reason I, and a lot of others, enjoy the returns of The Rock or Stone Cold is that they still get to tell Vince "I don't go through that curtain without some level of creative control." Even Chris Jericho maintained some of that control his last time through and his programs were some of the best in the company.
I have to admit, I marked out pretty bad when Cena came out at WrestleMania to his Thug Life theme before it switched over and I really think that character could make just as much or more money than this one. There is no crossover appeal to Cena anymore and that is a huge issue. He can do Kids Choice, but he has no credibility in the circles he used to.
It's a crude analogy, but in a lot of ways Vicne has pulled a Peter Angelos and beaten down most of his fanbase. Every time there is a glimmer of hope, things start to heat up and then cool off and end up more antagonistic that before as it returns to business as normal. This year in both Baltimore and the WWE that hope is at the crescendo and neither can afford not to deliver what their fans want.
Posted by: James C | February 17, 2011 9:46 AM
Woooo the Rock John Cena is overshadow u & Cena is an unbreakable rock
Posted by: Anonymous | February 17, 2011 9:57 AM
Great write up, you are always so fair that your op-ed's transcend into truth!
Posted by: Drew | February 17, 2011 10:09 AM
Yes, it's a little unfair to compare the two since The Rock has been away for so long. But also realize that I don't think The Rock, or any other big-time star, ever had an 8-year run as either a face or a heel (modern day anyway). Cena's character is long past stale and hopefully The Rock will be able to help turn him into a massive heel for a couple of years before he makes his return to the face world.
Posted by: Sam | February 17, 2011 10:59 AM
Thats what the rock wouldve wanted. Its the heels goal to get booed out of the building. That doesnt make cena better than the rock
RESPONSE FROM KE: Of course it doesn't. I never said it did.
Posted by: sam | February 17, 2011 11:19 AM
I think the Rock has surpassed Hogan as the greatest wrestling persona of all time. He can do almost anything and the crowd goes nuts. He hit Cena with shots and the crowd turned on him. No other person could do that.
Comparing Cena with him is unfair to him, he still brings the energy but The Rock is out of everyone's league
Posted by: Brian | February 17, 2011 11:24 AM
Why not here after cenation and the rock rocks in wwe. hope wwe universe soon seen the changes of trend. Nexus to be destroyed by those warriors
Posted by: Madhan | February 17, 2011 11:29 AM
Cena s great...rock rock can't able to touch cena's shadow...john cena s the real face of the company no one can beat him..even the rock...
Posted by: Rahim cena | February 17, 2011 11:29 AM
Given the vocabulary Cena's been using lately, I think he would have layed the smackdown on their candy "poopies".
Posted by: Wrestling Rumours | February 17, 2011 11:41 AM
Cena in 2003 or 2011 can never come close to the Rock in giving promos...remember the one Rock gave as a heel in 2003 when he was in the ring with a guitar.
Anyway..I do not think the WWE would have been too pleased to see the Rock come out and bury Cena. Love him or hate him but Cena merchandise sells the most..not sure how it will sell now that the Rock called his shirts a fruity pebble collection.
Posted by: XXX | February 17, 2011 12:00 PM
Hey Kev i have been reading on a few blogs that HHH is to be revealed as the anonymous Raw GM some people are saying its Vince McMahon but i don't think it is Vince HHH has been doing a lot more backstage .
Posted by: ryan | February 17, 2011 1:05 PM
In my opinion being a successful wrestler comes down to three areas. You need to be great on a mic, you need to be great in the ring and you need to be a fairly attractive looking person to the fans. You know, you can't be ugly. You can sometimes get away with having two of the three, but if you only have one of those three things you will be relegated to being someone who gets squashed by the big fish. The Rock had all three of those qualities. There are other guys that have the whole package like John Cena, Triple H and a few others that you mentioned but The Rock just may have been the best.
Posted by: Barfco | February 17, 2011 2:10 PM
I'm very pleased that you've made this point. John Cena is a fantastic performer and the deserved face of the WWE. I don't think people should compare the two..The Rock is just one of a kind and they'll never be anyone else like him.
Posted by: Andy | February 17, 2011 2:35 PM
Kev, we had years and years of Rock vs. Austin. IMHO, their altercations, both verbal & physical, will forever be the epitome of sports entertainment perfection.
Cena needs his own 'Rock; with which to feud, not THE Rock.
Posted by: Ben in Vegas | February 17, 2011 2:52 PM
Kevin, I hear you when you say that The Rock is probably the most charismatic WWE superstar ever but in every era as far as I can remember the leader has always been somewhat charismatic. It's in fact one of the requirements for being the face of the company IMO but Cena has just shown a lack of true charisma that has been killing the business in a way. What I have always "hated" about Cena and what I see more nowadays in the WWE superstars is a lack of pride, self-esteem and intensity. People like Cena really expose Wrestling as scripted because they swing from intensity to stupid jokes over a matter of seconds. The Rock has managed to make the most of Cena's criticism which in fact is real life and not scripted. His promo was compelling in the fact that people really bought into the feud because he looked serious, intense and real. Cena has failed to do so many a time and looks like a peace maker. Wrestling is not about peace making, it's always been about rivalry and intensity. That's y people like Steve Austin left a legacy. They always came across like people who put their own interests first. If Cena could take himself and his rivals more seriously consistently he would rally supporters behind. In fact, Cena should really come back and try to tell The Rock in his face with some intensity how a sellout he has been and how he has been dying to lay his hands on him and teach me a lesson but guess what when Cena comes to respond to Rock he will start by acknowledging how great Rock has been over the years and how much respect he has for him and disappointed he was to see him go and how happy he is to see back instead of trying to thrash the Rock and elevate the feud. He comes across as a guy with low self-esteem and a sucker in a way. That's why hardcore Wrestling fans will never like Cena. Just imagine if the Rock had thrashed Austin like he thrashed Cena how Austin would come back and react...That's what Cena lacks, we all know he has no way of hurting or thrashing Rock because he somehow just doesn't believe in himself. I bet you that Wade Barett , Edge or even Punk could do a better program with Rock than Cena can because those have some intensity and know to make it more intense. Cena must learn how to make feuds really personal and not dare mention the WWE universe. We want to see feud on his own behalf and on behalf of any fan. We want to see him take it personally. Cena has a very long way to go b4 he's counted among the greats. Rock is a true legend and definite and deserving future hall of famer.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 17, 2011 3:07 PM
...I meant we don't wanna see Cena come speak on behalf of any fan or even any other WWE superstar for that matter. He must speak for himself and make it as personal as possible. Even Vicky Guerrero is more intense that Cena and she cuts far better promos because she comes across as real and that's y she generates a lot of heat
Posted by: Thom | February 17, 2011 3:19 PM
hey I am sorry for bothering you but i am
a big fan of john cena but i think the rock
should lay off of cena because the five
nuckel shuffel is asome but i think the rock is punk
Posted by: jerrywhited | February 17, 2011 3:33 PM
One of the things you must remember is that the Rock came to be a huge star by working programs with Stone Cold and Triple H--as one was handing off the baton, and the other was in his asendency as a major star.
Cena has had to carry the company for several years now..something The Rock had help in doing..Cena's "help" is limited..as one who was watching the Royal Rumble live in Boston..I cringed when it came down to Cena and Orton..there was a shot where they were framed by the WM 27 logo..and didn't want to see that again..
Also remember that the Rock essentialy turned heel in the middle of the SummerSlam match when he handed off the title belt to Brock Lesner...the crowd in Uniondale LI was screaming "You Sold Out" at the Rock, and he turned in the middle of the match..its a classic example of ring psychology done to perfection...
Posted by: adz | February 17, 2011 3:52 PM
I don't actually agree about Rock being a better promo guy than Austin. Even with Austin's use of catchphrases, he typically had more content than The Rock's.
Posted by: Rob Watkins | February 17, 2011 4:05 PM
In addition to what you wrote above, I have to add that a lot of people overestimate what Rock brought to the table and what undersell what Cena does.
The Rock is one of the most charismatic guys in the history of pro wrestling. But his initial success - make no mistake - came from riding the wave created by Stone Cold and Vince McMahon. It's funny because nowadays conventional wisdom has people describing the Attitude Era as The Rock and Stone Cold - sometimes in that order. Yes, The Rock more than delivered when he became "the man" but The Rock also did have the advantage of being on top in the absence of Stone Cold and at the end of his feud with Vince McMahon in 1999.
By contrast, look at where business was when Cena took the throne. As much as people nowadays rave about Brock Lesnar (who has since become THE major draw for UFC) and as much as people loved Benoit getting the title at long last, the fact was that business was in the toilet when they were on top. You can also include HHH in this but at least he was partially vindicated when the business turnaround in 2005 came during his feud with Batista.
But, ultimately, it was Cena who became the face of the new WWE. Although people use ratings as the only standard of success, Cena created a wave of live events increase, pay per view increase in 06-07 especially, and merchandising. In addition, Cena brought with him a wave of new and younger fans. There's a reason why Dave Meltzer last year placed him in the top 10 wrestling draws of all time, people.
Granted, I prefer The Rock more as a talent. But to discount Cena's talents is absurd. It's not a zero-sum game here. Why can't we praise both of their unique and tremendous contributions? If only we had more guys with their dedication, humility, and talent, then the wrestling business would be better off.
Posted by: Cameron | February 17, 2011 4:12 PM
100% agreeance(is that a word?). Cena and Rock are comparable because of the energy that they bring is similar. Not just in promos but in there wrestling styles and physical prescence. If they were to go at it in the ring they would surely elevate one another much like the Shawn/Undertaker, Rock/Austin, Flair/Steamboat, Angle/Brock, etc. Be a shame if it never happens. Rock said he may never wrestle again but hopefully the pop he recieved at Raw will give him the itch to do it one more time. We'd forgive him.
Posted by: tony | February 17, 2011 4:13 PM
Eck please. The crowd would not have gone crazy for Cena and booed The Rock out of the building at the end of 2003. First of all, even as a heel in the *beginning* of 2003, the crowd never booed the Rock out of the building. In fact, in one of his promos before his rematch against Hulk Hogan at No Way Out, the Rock teased the crowd about cheering his name and Hogan's, saying it came out "Rogan". And even at the end of his heel promo, when he did his "If you smell what the Rock is cookin", the crowd joined in and he had to tell them "sing along with the Rock is over". And this was when he was feuding with HULK HOGAN, the biggest babyface ever, and he was EXTREMELY popular when he turned face in his second run in WWE after their WrestleMania X8 match. Cena was no where near as popular as Hogan was in 2003.
And second, the Rock was gone by the end of 2003, but he returned at the beginning of 2004 to help Mick Foley against Evolution and he was as popular as ever. So to say at the end of 2003 when Cena turned face and the Rock was about to retuen in a couple of months as a super over babyface, that the crowd probably would have gone crazy for Cena and booed The Rock out of the building is just rediculous. Cena never has and never will be as popular as the Rock, and even as a heel I bet more people would cheer the Rock seeing as many boo Cena and cheer heels like CM Punk in his matches...and Punk hasn't come close to being as popular as the Rock
RESPONSE FROM KE: I'll give you this much -- The Rock was booed, but not for long. Once he turned heel, it freshened up his act, and he was so entertaining in the role, that the fans almost immediately started cheering him again.
Posted by: Kevin | February 17, 2011 4:24 PM
You're right; there is no comparison.
Posted by: KENNY POWERS | February 17, 2011 4:37 PM
I like both wrestlers and I think if let loose Cena can compete with The Rock and make it interesting. I'll get over it pretty quickly how The Rock forgot about the WWE universe: "Whats the WWE?"
Posted by: BobbyD | February 17, 2011 5:45 PM
WATSON from Jeopardy could cut a better promo than Cena. And with that said, may I have Trite and Repetitive for $600 Alex?
Posted by: Sean | February 17, 2011 6:02 PM
cenas been shooting off disrespectfully at the rock for a long time trying to provoke a reply.. rock stayed classy and never really said anything or gave cena anything to go on.
he saved it for monday night and then he showed jogn cena he is way out of his depth.
this is the difference in character, intelligence AND skill level between the 2.
cena is basicly a(very hard working a) lackey and rock is a genius. NO comparism.
Posted by: ultimate_krang | February 17, 2011 6:20 PM
I agree 100% with that. I think if the restrictions were lift off of Cena, he would be great. Definitely not Rock great, but still good.
My dream would to have WWE lift the "PG" era for the Road to Wrestlemania, and have Cena face the Rock, just because I think those two could shoot amazing promos. But alas, like I said, I'm dreaming with that.
Posted by: Zach | February 17, 2011 6:46 PM
if rock is going to be abound for a while, maybe they ought to reveal at raw that he is the anonymous GM?
Posted by: Tom | February 17, 2011 8:25 PM
Cena Sucks, Cena Sucks!
Posted by: Anonymous | February 17, 2011 8:29 PM
The Rock is way better than Cena.
If they do fight, it might end up like The Rock vs Hogan at Wrestle-mania 18.
And if that happens.....well then you lost one fan right here.Its not like he beat two other wrestlers who were better than him (Triple H and Shawn Micheals)
(Old School vs New)
At WM18 it was Hogan who was old school and kind of the bad guy vs THE ROCK who was new school and kind of the good guy.
A better idea would be HBK vs The ROCK.
Posted by: Kenny | February 17, 2011 8:34 PM
Is Flair the next Buddy Rodgers?
Is HBK the next Flair?
Is Hogan the next Andre?
Is The Big Show the next Andre?
Is the Rock the next Hogan?
Is Cena the next Hogan?
Is Cena the next Rock?
Is Jericho the next HBK?
Is Morrison the next HBK?
The comparisons are always going to be made. However, we will always be disappointed by the "good old days". We need to realize that no one will be able to fill the shoes of the last legend, but there will be more legends. We long for the "good old days" but each era and each "Superstar" can not be fairly judged by the last eras standards.
Cena will never be the next Rock, but that is not a bad thing. Cena has my respect for being able to adapt his gimmick for a PG audience. Cena is an original character and it works in today's era just as it did early in his career when the product was edgier.
That being said, hopefully WWE will look closely at the reaction the Rock got in his return, as he was not in PG mode. If they move to a more PG -13 style rating it would be a great opportunity to have Cena raise the bar with his promos as well as others that are good on the mic like the Miz.
The Rock will always be the best promo guy out there (IMO)but if we compare anyone else to him they would all look bad. Cena, HBK, Jericho, Flair, and Stone Cold all fall short of the "Great One" in the promo department but that doesn't mean that they should be disregarded as "not good enough for me." It is entertainment... not a real competition which means "the best" is always an opinion. Would I like to watch the Rock over Cena? As sure is Kevin Kelly is an ugly hermy...but that is my opinion.
Posted by: mat | February 17, 2011 9:29 PM
No offense to any Cena fans, but the guy is NOT a good performer. His own moves are sloppy, and messy, and the guy hurt himself, tearing his own pectorial muscle by messing up one of his own, unsafe, moves. YES, he has a good look to him, and has charisma, but talent wise, there is no comparison to the Rock. Being a performer myself, Cena don;t even compare, talent wise, to more then 3/4 of the mid card guys!
Posted by: Charles Durning | February 17, 2011 10:29 PM
I remember Cena as a rapper.
I thought they should have brought in New Jack and had him staple a 1$ bill to Cena's head.
Then we wouldn't have to be dealing with all this Cena is too tame stuff.
As it is . . . After the rock talk michael cole and the miz, they should of had him finish it off with Alberto Del Rio or Wade Barrett, evan Cm Punk.
Instead .. . . he went after cena, which is dumb.
You dont have Christmas battling it out with your birthday !!!!!
Cause no matter who wins . . . you loose.
Posted by: Evan | February 18, 2011 1:54 AM
Guyz dont b senti folks coz cena is better than rock and look at physique u will find it. Surely cena is a better performer and a promo guy. Trust me he is.
Posted by: Waris | February 18, 2011 1:59 AM
John Cena is the best! And he shouldn't have to take that kinda cr@p from the ToothFairy! What doe that guy know about wrestling anyway? They should have just went with JB to host WM!!!
Rock, Cena can kick you butt anyday of the week, and make you tatp,tap,tap to the STFU!!!!!
Cenation!!!
Posted by: Mikey | February 18, 2011 3:22 AM
candy butts - lol
Posted by: Sasi | February 18, 2011 3:25 AM
Are you guys crazy the fans really don't like Cena...... You can't even compare him to The Great One The Rock.... Crazy lmao.
But anyway they need someone to knock Cena Vince know nobody like him but 7 year old kids. Wrestling is all about the 90's and Cena cant match up with any body from that era period.
Posted by: KnOw you role | February 18, 2011 3:41 AM
Too many people are far too down on John Cena. The man works very hard and, as evidenced by his Doctor of Thuganomics act, is very creative when allowed to take the reins.
Having just read Jericho's Undisputed, and remembering what the greats say in interviews, DVDs, or their own books, the key to creating an interesting wrestling character that the fans will support and get behind is in personal creativity. Cena needs to use the creativity we saw when he was more edgy and make it work in the current restrictions. Sure, he may not be able to say words like a** and b*tches without being censored or having to make an apology later, but I'm betting he can manage to come up with raps that don't use those words.
Anyway, that's another topic.
The bottom line is that fans currently have the option to let The Rock's guest spot do the same for Cena and the Miz that other legends did for The Rock and Triple H and Steve Austin and Randy Orton and so on and so forth. Fans can continue to whine that Cena will never be The Rock (which is good - he shouldn't try to be! He should try to make his own name in the industry) OR they can see what Cena learns from having The Rock share the same air.
I choose the latter option.
Posted by: Mina | February 18, 2011 3:58 PM
Flair can still cut a better promo on The Rock. Short memories, people.
Posted by: ANon | February 18, 2011 4:36 PM
Eck, do you think the WWE in some way planned this? When John Cena first shot his mouth off in the wrestlecast done by The Sun newspaper in the UK, it seemed like it was just Cena's opinion being voiced BUT the WWE must have held out hope for a Rock return... do you think they are clever enough to plant the seeds for this moment many years ago by telling Cena to bad mouth The Rock in the press for leaving so that when Rocky did return they had something ready and waiting as a feud?
As for the comparison, I still don't like The Rock not because i'm under the age of 14 but because all he ever seems to do is spout a few catchphrases. John Cena doesn't always hit the mark with his mic work but even the rock himself would struggle to work with some of the crap they give Cena, all Dwayne does is high school insults and catchpharses and I'll never be convinced that's good promoing. The Rock is arugably the most charismatic person to ever enter a ring... doesn't make his promo's any good. If you looked at a 20minute Rock promo from 2001 and the one he cut this week in 2011... how much of it would actually be different?
As for ring work, John Cena should get more credit for what he can do and The Rock gets too much, looking back with rose tinted glasses perhaps? To sum up why let me put it this way, could The Rock have got an entertaining match out of The Great Khali? Cena managed it... That being said neither are Chris Benoit, punch and kick brawlers that the WWE loves so much..
Posted by: Nick | February 19, 2011 4:13 AM
The Rock is great and all but really judging him and Cena by Monday night is silly. He got a pop for being awesome and being the Rock. However, a huge part of that was the fact that he hadn't been seen in a WWE ring in years. It was exciting because this really wasn't something you see every week.
That's not to say Rock couldn't captivate people if he stayed but if he did 20 minute promos week in and week out most would get tired of it after a while.
He rocks though.
Posted by: Matthew | February 19, 2011 11:54 AM
I just watched the replay of Raw on Universal HD and, knowing the big reveal at the end of the show, I feel that I was able to watch it with a more critical eye than on Monday night. That said, I completely agree with the assessment that Rock would outshine Cena on the mic no matter what. I have to admit though, the real genius was in the reveal itself - that surge of excitement in hearing all those classic Rock catchphrases was somewhat diminished during a second viewing. That's to be expected, I know, but I can't help but think even Rock wouldn't get big ovations if he really had to carry the industry week-in and week-out like Cena. The era (not to mention the PG rating, as mentioned in the column) certainly has a significant effect in terms of crowd enthusiasm. Given Attitude-era material and a really hot, hot crowd, Cena could've held his own (and I say this as the biggest Rock mark on the planet... I got goosebumps Monday night).
Posted by: clay tonic | February 20, 2011 12:05 AM
Well the last couple of posts give me hope.
I really thought, after watching wrestling for more than 30 years, I had missed something by thinking The Rock was just another overhyped product of the Attitude Era's desperate and degenerate pushback against WCW.
He was great on the mic, but not the best. And he certainly wasn't anywhere close to being the top performer in the ring.
Posted by: ANon | February 20, 2011 3:02 AM
I completely agree with you. A lot of people underestimate Cena's promo skills. He's very good with mic. He shows great intensity and wide range of emotions while cutting a promo. If he's allowed to work in TV-14 environment, I think Cena can come very close to the likes of Austin, Rock and Jericho.
Posted by: Kunal | February 21, 2011 2:00 PM
Kev, I agree that comparing Rock and Cena is unfair, but I think the comparison is necessary. To my mind, it's Cena who, week in and week out, begs us to see him as the PG-era's Rock. In fairness to Cena, it's obvious that he tries, and it's clear that his situation is completely different. Last week, you broke down 2010 and the thickest thread in the year was John Cena. His matches, his rivalries, him, him, him. It's human nature to get bored when you're presented with the same thing over and over, and for that, I add points to Cena's column. And there's no doubt in my mind that Cena has a love for the WWE that Dwayne Johnson doesn't. If Cena's movies and acting didn't suck, and he was presented with a Hollywood that loved and accepted him, I have no doubt that Cena would choose WWE. He gets points for that as well.
Where he starts losing points is in the ring. Maybe it is the PG-era restrictions, but I can't remember ever caring one way or the other about a Cena promo. I realize that this, in part, is my problem. I'm an Attitude Era mark, and nothing can change that. At the same time, though, I know that it's Cena personally, because I still flip for Orton. As a previous poster mentioned, Cena never seems like his heart is in it. It's always about the CeNation. On the face, that seems positive. You want to feel like the wrestlers you love and support know you're there and support you too. In Cena's case, though, it's stale.
One need look no farther than Cena's own signature move to see that the comparison between he and The Rock is at least partially his own doing. The Five-Knuckle Shuffle? Honestly. Now, I know one move isn't enough to conclude that Cena "wants to be The Rock," but his mannerisms and in a slight part, his entire persona of the fan's wrestler are taken directly from The Rock. And, like Cena or not, those shoes are far too big for him to fill. Watching Cena in the ring is like watching Godzilla tear through the streets of Japan. He's clunky and sort of awkward, and despite the occasional drop kick, he's just brutish. That's fine when it's just part of your arsenal, but when it's every weapon you've got, it gets old.
In contrast, look at Orton. He's visceral in the ring. His promos seem sincere, and when he's wronged, there's no question that he's out for revenge on his own behalf. He is, without question, this era's Stone Cold. I don't think he asked for it, but when it was thrust upon him, he accepted it and lived up to it. Watching him is a delight. He has the underlying threat of dynamism that is completely missing from Cena. The F-U... sorry, "Attitude Adjustment" can be telegraphed from a mile away. The RKO? Quick, silent, deadly. In a measure of over-the-top pique, they've even named him The Viper. Are fans' memories so short that they don't remember the Texas Rattlesnake?
Perhaps, in there, we find the proper comparison for John Cena. He isn't the Rock, but no one ever will be. Is he Randy Orton? The fans and creative think so. For me, he isn't. For me, Cena represents everything that's wrong with the PG-era. Orton? Orton is the last reminder of what wrestling used to be like. There's your comparison.
Posted by: Kyle | February 21, 2011 7:32 PM
Kevin,
After watching Cena's retort on Monday Night Raw, he really doesn't compare to the Rock as far as mic skills are concerned. What I would like to know is how much of the smack talking is scripted and how much is ad-libbed. Both of them are very good on the mic, but neither of them know a wristlock from a wristwatch. Their in-ring skills are mediocre at best. However, they are fun to watch, and I enjoy their matches, so I guess that's what matters.
Let me say that I appreciate that there is a wrestling blog. Back in the day, when George Michael used to show wrestling on his sports show from the old Capital Center (geezer alert), I always enjoyed him, as well as watchiing Jim Vance's reactions. You take all of that to a new level with your knowledge and your passion for the spots...thanks.
Dorado
Posted by: Dorado | February 22, 2011 6:12 PM
When it comes down to it, Rock is a better promo cutter and and athelete than Cena. Legacys are big and while many of you bring up names Stone Cold Steve Austin is actually the biggest name in wrestling history because reportedly in 3 years from the late 90's Austin drew more money than any wrestler yes even more than Hogan, check the numbers.
As far as most charismatic ever, looks, promos and most defintely wrestling ability Shawn Michaels is the greatest because he had it in every department.
You see The Rock has those features too but feel short to HBK when it came to in ring ability but do not get me wrong The Rock is great and as Austin would say Bottomline Cena does not compare to the Rock. Cena does not have the mic skills of the Rock, I mean yes he can rap somewhat but against guys like The Rock, Ric Flair or a Dusty Rhodes how far is all that rapping gonna get U? answer not far.
A wrestler like Stone Cold left a legacy of cross me the wrong way or not I will kick ur a**, Austin backed up everything he said. That is why Austin become the man who elevauted wrestling and so did the Rock. Randy Orton should be the man the WWE focuses on more, for one he is a better character and wrestler than Cena, Orton has wrestled all time greats like HBK, HHH, Angle, Hogan, Flair, Taker, Foley, Benoit & Goldberg. It is a shame they cut down on Orton's mic time bcuz He cut nice promos in Evolution days and in 09 when the Viper gimmick first came.
WWE needs to pull away from the PG days and stop holding so many good wrestlers back like Morrison and most definetly established wrestlers back like Orton and Edge. Im not saying that Cena does not deserve anything but ask yourself this question back in the 80s Federation era or the 90s Attitude era do U actually think Cena would have because WWF/WWE champion? let me answer that for U "No!" with guys like Hogan or Hart or Michaels or Austin, let's be real folks.
Posted by: Corey Banks | February 25, 2011 9:19 PM