Raw: Three big WrestleMania matches become official
With less than five weeks to go before WrestleMania XXVI, WWE turned up the heat (no Undertaker jokes, please) on Raw Monday night. There were some hot angles and promos involving the top guys, and three matches were announced for WrestleMania XXVI: Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker, world heavyweight champion Chris Jericho vs. Edge, and WWE champion Batista vs. John Cena.
The set-up for the Batista-Cena WrestleMania match was especially well done. At the beginning of the show, Vince McMahon made a non-title match for Monday night between Cena and Batista with the stipulation that if Cena won, he would get a title shot against Batista at WrestleMania.
Batista did the stalling bit that he has done as of late, and then he kicked Cena low and was disqualified. From there, Batista destroyed Cena with chair shots in deliberate fashion, which got a lot of heat.
Other thoughts on Monday’s show:
Raw got off to a good start with Jericho coming out to gloat about winning the world heavyweight title at the Elimination Chamber pay-per-view the night before. Edge eventually hit the ring, speared Jericho and declared that he would be challenging him for the championship at WrestleMania. Immediately after that angle, Cena’s music played, and he stormed to the ring to demand a WWE title match against Batista. He and McMahon then had a good verbal confrontation. ...
Unlike the Batista-Cena and Jericho-Edge angles, the segment with Michaels and The Undertaker did not involve any physicality or yelling, but it still was very effective. The key was that Undertaker said he would face Michaels at WrestleMania, but only if Michaels puts his career on the line. Michaels agreed to the stipulation. Both guys did a great job on the mic. ...
There was a new development in the McMahon-Bret Hart story line, as McMahon said that he was inviting Hart to next week’s show so that he could have a proper farewell. It was later announced that Hart had accepted McMahon’s offer. If it turns out that the car accident last week and reports of Hart suffering a broken leg are a ruse orchestrated by Hart to get McMahon in the ring at WrestleMania, there is a flaw in that logic: How did Hart know that McMahon would ask him to make one last appearance on Raw? ...
I liked how the Legacy angle went down. Before a six-man tag team match involving all three members of the group, Ted DiBiase Jr. and Cody Rhodes spoke backstage about “sticking to the plan,” with the inference that they were going to double-cross Randy Orton. During the match, however, it was Orton who laid out DiBiase and Rhodes, showing that he was one step ahead of them. So far, WWE has been on the mark with Orton’s gradual babyface turn. Now that Orton has demonstrated that he can outsmart DiBiase and Rhodes and hasn’t lost his mean streak, I’m guessing the next step in this program is to get some sympathy on Orton by having DiBiase and Rhodes sneak attack him and deliver a vicious beat-down, which will then prompt Orton to vow revenge at WrestleMania. ...
Michaels and The Undertaker were in the middle of a strong verbal confrontation when suddenly some idiotic fans began to give Michaels the “What?” treatment. I’m not going to mince words: If you chant “What?” during a promo – much less an intense one between two legends that is setting up a big match at WrestleMania – you are an idiot. Actually, you’re worse than an idiot, but since The Baltimore Sun is a family newspaper and Web site, I can’t use stronger language. “Stone Cold” Steve Austin is one of the most successful wrestlers of all time, but I’ll never forgive him for bringing the “What?” chant to the business. I thought it was stupid from Day One, but it’s beyond lame for fans to still being doing the stale bit in 2010. ...
It sure was great to see Jericho with the big gold belt draped over his shoulder. By the way, how many times has he been “banned from Raw forever” before showing up again in a week or two? ...
Finally, we have a new Divas champion, as Maryse defeated Gail Kim in the tournament final to fill the vacant championship. There was an odd stretch in the match in which it appeared that Maryse might have been legitimately injured. She was holding her neck and was a bit wobbly. Then she suddenly regained the spring in her step and hit the French Kiss on Kim for the win. I guess she was supposed to be playing possum to catch Kim off guard. I think Maryse winning is the right call, but I do feel bad for Kim, who will probably never get anywhere near the push in WWE that she got in TNA. ...
I’m not too thrilled about Christian joining Raw instead of Smackdown, but perhaps it’s just a temporary move until the next draft. Maybe he’ll win the Money in the Bank Ladder Match – which he qualified for by defeating Carlito – and then cash in at some point if/when his old pal Edge is champion. ...
Guest hosts Jewel and the bull riding guy she’s married to seemed like pleasant enough people. The bit with The Big Show riding the mechanical bull – and later punching the bull after it was “taunting” him – was so silly that I couldn’t help but laugh. ...
I was surprised to see that Wendi Richter is going to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. Not only because I don’t think had she anywhere near a Hall of Fame career, but also because she and WWE parted on really bad terms in 1985. I’m going to post a separate entry about Richter later. ...
Cheech and Chong – or as I like to call them, the Rob Van Dam and Brian Kendrick of comedy – are hosting Raw next week. Is it possible to get a contact high through your television set?







Comments
Kev I couldn't agree more with you about the "WHAT!" chants. I was at the go home show for Wrestlemania last year in Dallas and that was all I heard the whole night. At one point Orton was cutting an intense promo and told the crowd to "Shut Up" or else, obviously in character but I felt that somewhere inside of him he really wanted to kill the people chanting what on the eve of one of his biggest matches ever. Unfortunatley it only got worse from there.
Posted by: Kevin | February 23, 2010 7:51 PM
I have to disagree re: 'Taker's mic skills. There were a couple of times where it looked like he wanted to say, " ... Line?"
Posted by: Eric | February 23, 2010 7:59 PM
Re: Cheech and Chong -- I guess guest hosts aren't subject to the Wellness policy?
Posted by: Eric | February 23, 2010 8:01 PM
This is the first time I've said this in a long time, but I liked pretty much everything on this weeks Raw. Even the Divas match was good! I thought the Legacy, Batista/Cena and Michaels/Undertaker angles were all very well done. It's just a shame that WWE seems to try it's hardest to build matches for Wrestlemania, when it really should be pulling out all the stops all year round.
I liked how the Edge/Jericho segment was kept short at the start, as I think their story would be better played out on Smackdown, which I'm sure both men will do a great job at.
It seemed pretty obvious when Orton was giving his "apology" to Rhodes backstage that he was going to turn on his Legacy team mates in the ring. Still though, the whole thing was done really well, especially when Rhodes was just coming into the ring in a totally normal fashion and Orton caught him in the DDT. I think their match at 'mania should definitely be a triple threat match, as I think Orton against Rhodes and DiBiase in a handicap match wouldn't work very well. So this means that Rhodes and DiBiase will have to turn on each other at some point. But we'll see what happens.
Kev, I couldn't agree more about the idiots chanting "What" during the Michaels/Undertaker segment. It's like by starting that seemingly harmless gimmick all those years ago, Austin has unleashed a virus that still runs through the veins of those moronic fans. It just won't go away. It was a brilliant intense moment where two legends were setting probably the most anticipated Wrestlemania rematch ever in stone, and all you could hear was that stupid chant. I'm glad HBK has put his career on the line, as this gives the whole thing a different element to last year's encounter between the two.
I'm pleased that the Divas Title has finally been won by someone, but I just wish it would have been Gail Kim.
Batista's beat down of Cena at the end was pretty intense. This is certainly keeping me interested in their match at 'mania. Two years ago, when the pair of them met for the first time at SummerSlam, the feud seemed very rushed and one dimensional because both men were adored by the majority of the fans. But now that Batista is a remorseless heel, this adds a lot more to the whole thing. And I really hope McMahon and Hart are involved in some way, that is if they don't start building for a match of their own.
I liked the job Jewel and that other guy did as guest hosts this week. The bull riding bit with the Divas was fun, and watching Big Show trying to do it was actually pretty funny.
Posted by: Paul | February 23, 2010 8:11 PM
are you saying cheech and chong is underrated?
Posted by: richard | February 23, 2010 8:42 PM
I think the "what" bit is funny although admittedly I would not do it.
Kev, I hear Shawn Michaels has an open position for a bodyguard. You should apply!
Posted by: AMC | February 23, 2010 8:56 PM
I'll set the over/under on comments that simply say "WHAT?" at 4.
Posted by: RH | February 23, 2010 9:03 PM
I hope I'm not the only one who agrees with this, but it is WAYYY too soon to have another "legendary" match between HBK and The Undertaker - especially after last year's match. I don't think they can pull off that same magic.
I know the WWE is very keen on pimping out their ladies to be some sort of eye candy for the male viewers (because let's face it, the guys are pretty much eye candy for the girls), but did we really need to see a bullriding contest?
On another note: The Bella Twins are pretty much worthless.
Also, I'm all for Bret reliving his glory days, but I'm not up for seeing him wrestle. No, Bret. Just say no.
Posted by: Kristina | February 23, 2010 9:06 PM
"I’m not going to mince words: If you chant 'What?' during a promo – much less an intense one between two legends that is setting up a big match at WrestleMania – you are an idiot. Actually, you’re worse than an idiot, but since The Baltimore Sun is a family newspaper and Web site, I can’t use stronger language."
Seriously Kev? I mean, I know you're a HBK mark and you think the HBK/Undertaker match was like the greatest match ever, but geez, fans saying "What?" are worst than idiots?? It's a freakin wrestling promo, not an eulogy. When has it ever been a rule that fans should not say "What?" during a promo? Why are they "idiots" because they did it when you're beloved "legends" were setting up your "sacred" WrestleMania match? Pro wrestling is all about fan interaction. It's not like they were having a moment of silence for the passing of Owen Hart or something. WWE prides itself on it's "universe" being vocal fans. For you to call someone worst than an idiot just for being vocal during a promo is just rediculous. It was a scripted promo based on a scripted athletic competition. For you to insult someone who is doing what millions of other fans have done during other promos for years is taking things too seriously. You may have been very intense over it and wanted everyone to be silent, but to expect that at a wrestling event with thousands of fans is egregious. It is not disrespectful to say anything during a wrestling event as long as it's not vulgar or disrespectful. So they destroyed your precious golden moment. Get over it.
RESPONSE FROM KE: That's right, I forgot that if I mention anything that involves Michaels, it has to be discounted because I'm an HBK mark, I have a man-crush, etc. That stuff is more tired than the "what" chant. You must not be a regular reader of this blog, because I have ranted about the "what" chant several times in the past. HBK wasn't even involved in those instances. Shocking, I know. As for your point about fans being vocal, absolutely they should cheer, boo and even chant as they see fit. But saying what, what, what, what makes you look like ....wait for it .... an idiot.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 23, 2010 9:07 PM
Raw was really good this week. After the PPV it became clear who was going to be in the main event(s) at WM26 but the way it was done was very entertaining.
Cena is getting the much needed addition of seriousness and anger to his character.
Much like HBK he can be funny and serious, but we haven't seen him serious in awhile so the funny, joking Cena seems stale. This is also where the Batista character should have been all along.
Speaking of HBK I thought the video package for his program with Taker was awesome. The promo they did in the ring was so much better than I thought they would do. I expected the same "wrath of the Undertaker" bit, but it was cool how Taker seemed impressed with Shawn's willingness to "get his attention". I hope they go with the angle of respect over a knock out drag out feud. These two don't need to touch each other before WM to keep me watching. With two "grudge matches" at WM this could be a good way to break the pattern of brawls that lead to a conclusion at Mania. The career vs streak is a good twist to the part two of the HBK vs Undertaker Wrestlemania saga.
I wonder what will be gone first, Takers burns or Jewell's hand print on Jillian's face.
Jericho was great acting like a spoiled kid who got everything he wanted for Christmas. Edge challenging him for the World Heavyweight Championship wasn't a surprise but I'm sure there will be more follow up on Smackdown.
The real surprise was no HHH on Raw. I wonder how he will fit into WM 26. I hope it's not against Sheamus but there are not a lot of other "main eventers" left. All the others have programs that are set. I wonder if they would be in the MITB. HHH has never won a MITB so it could be a "feather in his cap" if he won. Not that a HHH MITB win wouldn't come with some controversy.
Posted by: mat | February 23, 2010 9:11 PM
there were two great points to this show: Christian is on raw and hornswaggle wasnt. i hope Christian wins money in the bank especially since the crowd was begging for it last year but he probably wont cause the commentators said he's the heavy favorite for it. if he does win it the writers will probably ruin it by making him turn heel against edge.
i really hope the two of them go for the tag team titles soon. it would be great if christian could use the briefcase for the wwe title and thw two of them could hold the world and tag titles at the same time.
Posted by: alex | February 23, 2010 9:34 PM
Anyone who gets upset because a fan chants "What?" during a promo is an idiot.
Posted by: Scott | February 23, 2010 9:35 PM
Am I the only one who is happy that they are showing weapon attacks again? What do you think brought it back kev?
Posted by: Dan B | February 23, 2010 9:36 PM
When I saw the Big Show punch the mechanical bull, it brought back memories of the scene when Alex "Mongo" Karras knocked out the horse in Blazing Saddles!
Posted by: wrzesien | February 23, 2010 9:57 PM
100% agree with on the "What?!" chants point. I don't mind the chant, but only when it's used appropriately. The most effective time to use that chant is when there is a heel who is cutting a promo that is pure, falsified garbage. The whole point of the "What?!" chant is for the fans to give the heel heat and to convey that they don't believe and/or agree with what he/she is saying. Saying it while Michaels was cutting his promo on Raw this week was just dumb because we all wanted to hear what he had to say; we did not want to hear a group of mindless idiots in the crowd making their voices heard with their lame saying.
Posted by: Andy | February 23, 2010 10:03 PM
That is a bit of a surprise about Wendi Richter going into the HOF, as the way she left the WWF was probably even more strange than Bret's Montreal departure.
Her last match with Moolah (who was wearing another wrestler's mask, no less) was a booking job quite similar to Bret's with Shawn.
What probably made it worse was that Bret had made lots of money in the WWF, had a long career with the company, and had another high priced gig in WCW lined up for himself.
Richter, who done well with the angles with Lauper and Moolah, but had worked for only a short time and for comparatively little money, walked out in her wrestling gear, after the match, never to return to the WWF. She eventually resurfaced in Vern Gagne's promotion but never regained the profile she had in the WWF.
It would be nice to see the WWE honour her, as her work, as abbreviated as it was, helped pave the way for the next wave of women wrestlers.
She's done well later in life, going back to school, earning two degrees, and moving on with her career.
Maybe this move by the WWE will belatedly recognize her distinguished service, and end her wrestlng career with the company on a much more positive note.
Posted by: Mark | February 23, 2010 10:10 PM
So were HHH and Sheamus really hurt?
RESPONSE FROM KE: I don't know about Triple H, but Sheamus supposedly did legitimately suffer a concussion.
Posted by: Sam | February 23, 2010 10:11 PM
Re: Anonymous
Yes, wrestling is about fan interaction... when the wrestlers are actually interacting with the fans. The Michaels and Undertaker segment was between them and only them. They were trying to give off the effect of a real serious, tense, and critical moment in the show. Wrestling may be scripted, but fans should have some respect for what's going on in the moment. Wrestling is like watching a play. A good drama on a stage is supposed to move the audience. It's hard to be affected by anything that's going on in the ring when people are chanting "What" at the wrong time. Stop being an ignorant dork and let people who love the art (yes, I wrote "the art") of professional wrestling take it seriously.
Posted by: Cliff | February 23, 2010 10:15 PM
Loved every second of the "what" chants because the promos were extremely lame and far from convincing. I couldn't stop thinking when will this be over---shades of last weeks Hogan/Abyss promo. The crowd actually entertained me for that segment. I was just dissappointed didn't start chanting BORING!!!
If I pay for my seat, then I have the right to cheer any which way I want provided I'm not vulgar/offensive. Worst case scenario I have blogger call me an idiot. I'll live.
Now the Miz cut the best promo of the night when he said Jewel was a big dissappointment just like the Colts in the Super Bowl. He drew the most heat all night when he rubbed that in Indianapolis's face. B'more's joy; thier sorrow. :-)
RESPONSE FROM KE: I agree the fans who pay for their tickets have the freedom to say what they want as long as it isn't vulgar. But just because someone has the right to be an idiot doesn't mean they should exercise that right.
Posted by: Ballz Mahoney | February 23, 2010 10:33 PM
I agree with you Kevin, the what chants were both rude and distracting. Some people are idiots. I think what chants are dumb, but if you are going to do one, then save it for a lame segment where you want to air your displeasure with it. I also thought Jericho's happiness was hysterical to open the show.
Posted by: Nick Rini | February 23, 2010 10:49 PM
Kev, please forgive my ignorance, but I don't understand the storyline behind Batista's logic with intentionally getting DQ'd to face Cena at WM.
Also, where was Triple H? The 1st Raw heading into WM and The Game wasn't even on the show........nor was the former champ, Sheamus.......
RESPONSE FROM KE: When Batista explains his actions, I think it's going to be something along the lines of Cena stealing his spotlight over the years,. And he could also say that he beat Cena once so he knows he can do it again.
Posted by: Va Beach Bum | February 23, 2010 10:49 PM
Those folks screaming the "What?" at the wrestling matches are probably the same jokers who scream the "O" during the National Anthem at the Yard...or any event in Baltimore where the National Anthem is played.
Posted by: Rich | February 23, 2010 10:50 PM
Hahaha no Triple H or Sheamus and it was a great RAW!! Ok anyways.. I never have minded the "What" chants, but there's a time to do them and a time not to do them, and during a great promo between Taker and HBK, and the kind of promo it was, it was a stupid time for it, and I agree the fans that were doing it were idiots for doing so. I can't believe RAW was so good though! Except I thought the bullriding stuff was just a waste of time.. a lot of time.. but the women looked great.
Posted by: cowboysmb3dw28 | February 23, 2010 10:52 PM
After last week's weak episode, they completely bounced back with last night's show. I'm kind of surprised you didn't mention the Taker/HBK video package, because that was one of the best they've ever done.
Also, I don't think there's any flawed logic to Hart/Cena staging the broken leg (if that's what they end up doing. I still don't think a Vince/Bret match will happen one-on-one); they could point out that they knew Vince, being that he's Vince, would want to bring Bret back after the injury to rub it in that they can't have a match and Bret's hope for a final Wrestlemania moment is over. Or, more likely, Vince will decide to accept Bret's challenge since Bret is "injured" and they can have Bret point out that it was all a setup.
Also, I agree with most of your "What?" comments. I find it funny when fans will pull it out to show their displeasure when someone's bombing on a promo, but that HBK/Taker promo was a pretty intense moment, and it was pretty unnecessary.
I also agree on how (as opposed to last year) they're handling Orton's Wrestlemania feud great so far. And Jericho was tremendous in the opening. Him having the title makes his character so much more entertaining because he can justify his overly cocky persona.
Posted by: Brian Cougar | February 23, 2010 10:56 PM
I enjoyed the Shawn Michaels-Undertaker video montage.
Normally, I am indifferent to the music the WWE utilizes. But when the WWE uses a Kate Bush song I sit up and take notice. Placebo does a very good version of "Running Up That Hill."
Posted by: Aaron Goldstein | February 23, 2010 11:21 PM
Kev, I think the rumored ruse between Bret and Vince is good. The only way for Bret to get Vince face to face is for Vince to think that Bret is no threat to him. Vince is such an ego maniac that he would chomp at the bit to bring a hobbled Bret to Raw to spit in his face without fearing repurcussions.
As for the "what?" chant, I loved it when Austin started it, but now that it's done in angles where Stone Cold is nowhere close to the action, I agree that it's just annoying.
Posted by: freezeout | February 23, 2010 11:25 PM
The bull taunting the Big Show was like my dog when it barks at the vacuum cleaner= too funny.
Posted by: MitZi | February 23, 2010 11:29 PM
I usually don't mind the "What?" chants if it's supposed to be a comedic promo, but I completely agree with you here.
One question: Doesn't it make seem like Sheamus is the good guy when he has no way affecting whether or not he wrestles at Mania? Add on top of that the fact that Batista didn't even try to win the match... They're not turning Sheamus face, are they?
The one time Triple H isn't on Raw, the guest hosts still manage to get a gay joke across. Fits in really well with the Southerner bullrider stereotype, I must say...
One thing I thought was hilarious was Cody Rhodes doing Evan Bourne's peace sign when he entered the ring.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 23, 2010 11:40 PM
Loved Chris at the beginning of the show - I loved that he wasn't sarcastic Jericho - looks to be a great program!
Also, thought the undertaker had a weird line when he used the word "soul" and then changed it to "career" in his discussion with HBK.
Sooooo happy that Sheamus wasn't on the program. Made it worth watching.
I found the bull riding segment absolutely bizarre - if you are going to use the eye candy on wrestling still, then go all the way, or don't have it all. It's still objectification of women, plain and simple, but I would find it more honest if they would go back to the "puppies" and bra and panty matches, then going halfway and simply come off archaic and half -a---- (so to speak). I just find that it doesn't fit in with the rest of the show. At all.
Really good two hours - and ya gotta LOVE Orton! Honestly, the best heel since the Rock or Austin. Better than Jericho, simply because his ring psychology is amazing.
Posted by: David S. | February 23, 2010 11:47 PM
I'm all for a hot crowd interacting with the talent. The "what" thing is stale and stupid. Try a little creativity.
Posted by: Andrew | February 23, 2010 11:48 PM
Gotta be honest, it was nice not seeing Triple H anywhere on the show. I love The Game, but he could benefit from taking some time off just like HBK and The Undertaker.
Posted by: Pat Coyne | February 24, 2010 1:41 AM
I thought Raw last night was a very good show. They did a really good job starting the build towards Wrestlemania. This is how I always remembered the buildup to Wrestlemania back in the attitude era when I first started watching. They have gotten away from having deeply personal feuds with a match to back it up over the last few years but it seems like we are going back to that this year.
Wanted to bring something up about Bret Hart/Vince McMahon program. Any chance Shameus and Triple H get involved here? Triple H goes to Vince asking for a championship match early on in the show next week and Vince denies him, and beats up on him verbally like only Triple H can do. Later on in the show, Vince and Shameus (his new helper now that Batista has moved onto the WWE Championship), are beating Bret badly when Triple H runs out for the save setting up the tag match?
Thoughts?
Posted by: Gregg | February 24, 2010 2:36 AM
My two cents on the "What" issue.
Firstly yes you do have the right to chant as you wish at a live show that you have paid to attend but No you do not have the right to ruin that same show that the guy next to you has also paid their hard earned cash to attend.
This "What" chant is the vocal equivilant of Vince Russo. It breaks the rythem and flow of a promo, distracts the wrestler cutting the promo, and annoys anyone with a brain in the general vacinity.
Not only is it annoying, its unoriginal, boring, and just done.
Cue some Genius to respond with "WHAT"
Posted by: antomurf | February 24, 2010 7:28 AM
Kevin, your feelings on the "What" chants, I couldn't have said any better myself. I personally think its one of the worst things to ever come along in the business. Unfortunately, I dont see it ever going away.
Posted by: Rick from Carney | February 24, 2010 7:41 AM
I agree with everything you said Kev but the only thing I want to add is that besides the HBK/Undertaker match, the Batista/Cena angle is by and large the one match that I cannot wait to see. These two have been involved in some angles when they both were in OVW, Batista as Leviathan and Cena as the Prototype, but now that they are both in the big show, it's awesome to see them in an angle when the lights are shinning brighter and the stage is bigger. The only thing that I don't get yet is that Batista is on Smackdown! and is the RAW champion. Will he remain on Smackdown! or will he have to go to RAW since he's their champ? Either way, after the way RAW ended, I cannot wait to see what happens next.
Posted by: David | February 24, 2010 8:17 AM
One of the best one two nigths for the WWE in awhile. I see the HBK/Taker match ending up in some kind of double pin so they both come out unscaved. Or better yet a HHH/Shameful run in causing both to get Dq'd setting up a Taker and HBK vs Shameful and HHH. With Orton going face it's probably a good thing if HHH goes back to a heel persona. I'm very interested in Mania this year unlike past years.
Posted by: Patrick Johnson | February 24, 2010 8:28 AM
I think it is interesting that no mention was made of the girl who backed into Hart's limo.What was a random person doing parked inside the arena and it appeared she was surrounded by other cars,so....
Also,i heard that Sheamus has a concussion and wasn't cleared to wrestle.
Really enjoy your blog.
Posted by: richard | February 24, 2010 8:39 AM
I wasn't that pumped for the potential rematch between Taker and Michaels at WM26 but the video that showcased events prior to the rumble and right up to what happened at the elimination chamber was sensational. Editing, music infact just about everything, one of the best from the WWE. Surely this match will be the main event, who could follow it?
Posted by: LG | February 24, 2010 9:07 AM
A few thoughts - the "what" bit is about as stupid as every Baltimore sports fan saying "O" during the National Anthem (disrespectful as well). Where did that ever come from? Also I think the Miz is at the top of his game and possibly has the best on the mic skills in the WWE. I like alot of people didn't like him at first, but at this point he is off the charts and should be due for a big push by the end of 2010. Was the undertaker eating a hot pretzel with mustard before hitting the ring on raw or was that some ointment for his burns?? I'm curious...
Posted by: RR | February 24, 2010 9:19 AM
Kevin,
The "What" chant follows along the same lines as the "O" chant during the National Anthem at Orioles Park. Enough already!
Ed
Posted by: Ed Roberts | February 24, 2010 9:33 AM
i also thought that maryse was hurt, if she wasnt, then she played it off well. her and gail kim are 2 good wrestlers that could have a good program if given the opportunity. i enjoy the what chant at the right time, especially when stone cold and vince are speaking. my wife always asks me why the crowd still chants it 8 years later, im just glad she watches it with me and doesnt complain. she calls orton "the russian", hahahaha. i get tired of cena getting destroyed to play the beaten down superstar role and then getting in his normal 4-5 moves to make the crowd pop. i really think cody rhodes has all the makings of a star-great ring skills, mic work, natural heel tendencies. he wont ever be a heavyweight champion, but could be anything else up to that. if only his name wasnt cody. does mvp have the worst music or is it me? did swagger fall off the map, what did he do to not even get on tv? if he developed an upper body and got a better schtick, hed be great too. i saw a shoot video that jim cornette did on batista--very funny!!
Kev- what is your opinion on shoot interviews?
Posted by: iron mike sharpe | February 24, 2010 10:14 AM
From what I heard, Sheamus suffered a concussion at the PPV on Sunday, which explains his absence. I don't know why he wasn't on the show, but HHH did work a dark match after the show, teaming with Edge to beat Batista and Chris Jericho. I can't believe I just typed that phrase, who ever thought those 2 teams would team up against each other? With DX pretty much split up, where are they going to go with Hornswoggle? Maybe move him back to Smackdown to team up with Finlay again. Also, I heard that the Raw rating shot up to a 3.8. I wonder how worried Bischoff and Hogan are in TNA right now after that.
Posted by: paul | February 24, 2010 10:24 AM
WHAT!!!!!
JK Kev... :)
Posted by: Saaron | February 24, 2010 10:29 AM
I wish it were legal to punch someone in the mouth for chanting "What" at WWE superstars like Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels.
Posted by: gp | February 24, 2010 12:07 PM
The what chants or annoying. Ok sometimes a guy deserves it because they suck (Sheamus), but when you've got two legends of the industry doing their thing it just ruins it.
Please tell me CM Punk will try to save Cheech and Chong next week.
Posted by: Amos | February 24, 2010 12:28 PM
Unfortunately, I sometimes find the "what" chants more entertaining than whats going on in the ring. Sorry, but I do. It allows the fans to have a voice. Boos and cheers get passe after a while.
Kevin you have as much right to dislike it as the fools in the crowd have doing it. I'm against censorship of any type though (vulgarities and such aside).
Posted by: AMC | February 24, 2010 12:36 PM
Sorry for double posting this time, but I forgot one thing. I totally agree with the What? chants being an idiot driven way to get attention. It was ok when Austin did it but he is gone people, get over it! It's great when he comes back for a special event but Austin is not apart of any of the current storylines and the fans that can't get past that are idiots.
There is a time for everything and the What? chants time has been over for years. There is no place for it now, its not the least bit funny anymore. This country gives us free speech but it also gives us the freedom to be an idiot. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you are not stupid for doing it.
Posted by: mat | February 24, 2010 12:38 PM
I've always been a supporter of the streak and it never breaking (even at last year's WM). But if HBK is putting up his career I will appear in person and hit Taker with a chair myself to ensure HBK is on my tv set for awhile longer! Any thoughts Kev on how this might play out? You don't think Shawn is really going to retire yet do you?
RESPONSE FROM KE: I have a feeling I know what's going to happen, but I'll save it unitl we get closer to WrestleMania.
Posted by: HBK mark #2 | February 24, 2010 1:47 PM
Great RAW, love to see HBK take the streak, he deserves it having dropped to taker last year, also the What chats are indeed retarded. Vince as an on screen heel has seen the chant creep back but using it when WWEs two biggest legends are making there WM match official is just a bit disappointing, it cheapens the segment.
Posted by: darren o'sullivan | February 24, 2010 2:53 PM
Kev, are you still doing ring reports for WNST? I haven't heard you on there for a few weeks and didn't know if I was tuning in too late or too early.
RESPONSE FROM KE: I've gone on hiatus. I may start up again.
Posted by: Brad | February 24, 2010 3:12 PM
The Miz does the sports' team bit with every city. It's called cheap heat. He is from Cleveland and shouldn't talk much considering how extraordinarily awful every single thing about that city is, except Lebron James.
Posted by: Jon | February 24, 2010 3:34 PM
Good show.
Thought the bull rider had some great sayings! Good turn of phrase.
Everything was good on the show.
I have a question:
What was the yellow stuff on The Undertaker's face? Is it the result of burns, or was it medicine for the burns? Or had he just been eating a custard pie?
Posted by: John Wilding | February 24, 2010 4:47 PM
Oh yeah.
I hate "What?".
Just so stupid. Every time a heal pauses for breath in a promo you get that old rubbish. They should throw them out!
Posted by: John Wilding | February 24, 2010 4:49 PM
Austin's on Raw on March 15th I believe, maybe he can ask the crowd nicely to stop being idiots? ("WHAT")
In all seriousness, the chant is as lame as that "joke" - Like you Kev I'm unable to forgive Stone Cold for bringing such an annoying chant into the world of WWE.
To the idiots, go watch TNA - oh wait, you probably already think its so much better due to your originality and individuality
Posted by: Andy | February 24, 2010 4:53 PM
Like Cliff's similie:
"Yes, wrestling is about fan interaction... when the wrestlers are actually interacting with the fans. The Michaels and Undertaker segment was between them and only them. They were trying to give off the effect of a real serious, tense, and critical moment in the show. Wrestling may be scripted, but fans should have some respect for what's going on in the moment. Wrestling is like watching a play".
Don't know if you have pantomimes in the USA, but shouting "What" at a heel talking rubbish is like shouting "he's behind you" at a pantomime.
Shouting "what" at Shawn and 'Taker is like shouting "he's behind you" at a production of Hamlet.
Posted by: John Wilding | February 24, 2010 5:06 PM
Fans can put over wrestlers or put them out. Nobody complained when the TNA fans chanted "Angle" when he cut an emotional promo breaking kayfabe last week. Fans put him over because the promo was REAL.
From my vantage point, Taker and HBK came out and expected everyone to tune in because of who they are. Imagine that, old wrestlers resting on their laurels. Never seen that before.
The promo sucked, and the fans killed it. And, it wouldn't have mattered to me whether they booo'd the promo, chanted boring, or said what. I always appreciate fans letting any promotion know when they put out crap. And, there's no better time then when they pile the crap out in the ring. I loved it when ECW fans would chant "you F'D up" when a wrestler missed a spot. They even did it to my favorite wrestler RVD, and he like all the others were better for it. Accountability and customer feedaback is important to any industry. You think wrestling is different? Wrestlers were always accountable to the ECW fans, and that's how it should be. We do give them the paychecks.
I don't understand what was so compelling about the promo anyways? It looked like both of them were saying something they memorized instead of something they really felt. HBK mumbled most of the time, and it looked like Taker forgot a line or two.
I get the impression, I'm going up against a bunch of HBK/Taker marks. That's fine, but when you apply some logic here, y'all can't have it both ways.
I mean I don't here you complain when the fans kill a Seamus promo with "what". Sure its not the "what" but the fact they did it to your two of your favorite wrestlers? I never got a customer satisfaction survey exiting a show, so I make my voice heard from the stands. Fan chants keep wrestlers accountable for putting out a good product. What's wrong with that?
WHAT?
Posted by: Ballz Mahoney | February 24, 2010 5:20 PM
I agree "what" is annoying, although re-watching old youtubes of Austin doing it reminds me how awesome Stone Cold was. "What?" "A beer belly!" "What?" "A beer belly!"
Really, my pet peeve is the "bo-rring" chants in the WWE, springing up like attention-deficit toadstools every time a match is anything but a video-game-like exchange of trademark moves.
It makes WWE fans seem ignorant when they're chanting "Boring" at a brilliantly-paced chain-wrestling match that builds and flows, like Kane vs. McIntyre at Elimination Chamber or any given Christian vs. Regal match. Those type of contests are what I most enjoy, and it aggravates me to have them marred by idiots too lazy to go get beer or something during the matches they don't care for!!
Posted by: Jules B. | February 24, 2010 5:51 PM
Best Raw in several years.
Posted by: Matt | February 24, 2010 8:51 PM
Austin's on Raw on March 15th I believe, maybe he can ask the crowd nicely to stop being idiots? ("WHAT")
Posted by: Andy | February 24, 2010 4:53 PM
We don't have idiots in San Diego.
OK, maybe a few.
Posted by: Marko50 | February 25, 2010 2:16 AM
What's the deal with the WWE? These same guys were headlining five years ago. Aren't they developing any new talent? Talk about boring. I mean, how many times are people going to watch the same six guys fight each-other? Shawn Michaels? Triple H? John Cena? Ugh
Posted by: Nathan | February 26, 2010 3:25 AM
Mark my words what will happen at Wrestlemania....it is clear as day.....
- Christian wins Money in the Bank
- Edge defeats Jericho for the Title (final match of the night)
- Christian cashes in MTB and takes title from Edge setting up new feud.
It all makes sense. Why? One the feud between Jericho and Edge is not complicated. Two since WWE is going to have a MTB PPV in just a few months, they need to get that thing cashed in fast. Three, now that Christian does not have a title, he can go after his former friend in a rivalry that was hinted at last year before Edge went down.
Posted by: The Damn Truth | February 26, 2010 10:01 PM
I think many fans shout "What" because they just can't help following everyone else. Short attention spans. The promo was probably too long for them. But the WWE shouldn't cater to people who can't keep up.
Posted by: Katy | February 28, 2010 12:35 PM