My take on Jesse Ventura walking off radio show
I haven’t commented on the incident in which Jesse Ventura stormed off a satellite radio show earlier this week because I really didn’t want to give the show any more publicity. Since several people have asked me about it, however, I’ll give my opinion.
The name of the show in question is out there, but I am not going to give the people involved with the show the satisfaction of getting another mention in the press. That’s exactly why they pull these kinds of stunts. Judging by that, you can probably guess which side I’m on.
For those who don’t know, Ventura appeared in studio on the show to promote his new “Conspiracy Theory” program on truTV. The former governor of Minnesota ended up in a heated debate with some obnoxious “comedian” who I’ve never heard of about the government’s possible involvement in 9/11 and whether the U.S. should have gone to war.
In the five-minute clip that I saw on YouTube, the “comedian” raised his voice (even after Ventura asked him to calm down), spoke over him, insulted him and basically did everything he could to get Ventura to take a swing at him. I thought Ventura showed remarkable restraint by not doing so. I honestly can’t say that I could have done the same thing under those circumstances.
I suppose Ventura should have known what he was getting into by appearing on the show. Personally, I can’t stand these shock radio, Howard Stern-wannabe shows. They’re too mean-spirited for my taste, and when discussing serious subjects they only lower the discourse.







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I was actually at a show where the "comedian" in question went on a tirade against a guy that walked out. He started spewing profanities and names and the guy explained his dad was in the hospital and he needed to go call and check in on him and the "comedian" said something about hoping his dad died and called him a p----.
He's a piece of garbage. I didn't even see the argument but Ventura is immediately right in my book.
Posted by: MechanicalBull | December 4, 2009 7:33 PM
Howard Stern is way more talented than those goons. His interview with Jesse was much better.
RESPONSE FROM KE: Totally agree.
Posted by: kreaky | December 4, 2009 7:49 PM
Amen , Kev .
Posted by: the artist formerly known as jack in hebron | December 4, 2009 7:51 PM
The saddest part is that the "comedian" keeps saying that Jesse Ventura is threatening to beat him up, when there was never a threat made. I cannot help thinking that sad soul grew up in an abusive household. I was never a psychology major, but that's basic Psy 101.
Be sure to watch as much of the conversation as you can because there is a promotional clip that really butchers it and casually mentions a 20-minute elapse that seems to indicate the argument lasted that long whereas it was more accurate to say that you saw all the relevent parts of the argument, and then it bounces over calmer discussions with the show's hosts before Ventura's departure.
Still, I said this before but I can say it again, it's amusing that the media was spinning it as a "win" for the comedian. I kinda saw it the other way.
Posted by: Mr. Sarcasm | December 4, 2009 7:51 PM
I do enjoy Jesse's interviews on Howard's show. They give him the room to speak and actually express his opinion, without making a name for themselves.
Posted by: Elevation | December 4, 2009 8:09 PM
That guy should be thanking GOD that Jesse didn't decide to harm him, because he's trained in hand to hand combat.
I watched his show on Wednesday and I think that it will be a hit.
Kevin, have you seen the Billy Jack Haynes shoot interview ? Wow is all I can say !
RESPONSE FROM KE: I haven't seen the Haynes interview.
Posted by: Bill Bean | December 4, 2009 9:08 PM
Kev, I'm really sad to see this. I would figure you would back a wrestler, but you're being a little one-sided. I don't know where you've been, but the person you've "never heard of" has had two HBO specials, hosted his own HBO show, appeared on every major late-night show, was a main contributor to "Tough Crowd" on Comedy central, has appeared several times on "Hannity" and now has a regular feature on "The Jay Leno Show".
Ventura has been on this show before and essentially comes across as an unreasonable nut-job. The video does a poor job of capturing what really happened, with the 20 minute gap. Jesse actually finally got mad while discussing immigration of all things. And i thought it was pretty petty of Jesse to saying "thanks for your service", as if the other person's lack of military service makes him less of a person.
Lastly, if any one reading this truly thinks Howard is the best interviewer on radio, you REALLY need to listen to Ron Bennington from Ron & Fez.
RESPONSE FROM KE: I don't watch any of the shows you mentioned, so that's why I never heard of the guy.
Posted by: Paul in Allentown | December 4, 2009 9:20 PM
Hey Kev, Don't you work with Nestor Apparicio? (Sorry if I butchered the spelling). So I'm sure you haven't had too many great experiences with shock jocks, ala the whole ticket incident. I live in Dallas so those guys pretty much dominate the market. There shows aren't all bad, but I see what you mean by that they do all of this as a means of attention. Sorry if this doesn't ring a bell with you, but bringing up the whole radio thing made me remember that you are on WNST and I thought that's where Nestor works.
RESPONSE FROM KE: Yes, I do a wrestling segment with Nestor on Wednesdays at 3. I know about the Super Bowl incident, but I wasn't there.
Posted by: Kevin | December 4, 2009 10:30 PM
As much as I think it was very disrespectful for him to just go off on Jesse like that and act very immature during most of this interview, I really wish Jesse hadn't said "Thank you for your service to our country." It comes across as being "I'm better than you because I served" and I think an educated man of his stature could have come up with something a little better than that against an unknown "comedian". It was humorous though as every time the comedian tries to make a point he doesn't face Jesse, but looks at the host or camera, looking for a reaction.
Posted by: Pat Coyne | December 4, 2009 10:33 PM
The 3 of those people can basically be perceived as the sterotypical obnoxious New Yorkers. (Note: I am from NY...go O's/Ravens!)
Posted by: eee | December 4, 2009 10:41 PM
I agree Kev...there show is junk and probably the only thing that I do not listen to on my Sirius/XM radio. Each time that Jesse has been on Howard it has been a home run. Even if you don't agree with Jesse's ideas/views, it is still interesting to hear the man speak.
Posted by: Jdubz | December 4, 2009 10:48 PM
Jimmy can actually be pretty damn funny. He has a reputation for "angry comedy", though. It's like Bischoff says, controversy creates cash.
I think they both had some valid points but they were just too irritated by each-other. They both came off as a------- by the end. Jesse was a typical politician in implying things without saying them outright in order to deny saying them. To say that someone's opinion is made less valid by their lack of military service is ridiculous.
Posted by: Andy | December 4, 2009 11:05 PM
I find it kind of funny that those two jackholes have in all essence pulled a shoot over on Ventura. I do agree, however, that they're nothing more than wannabe's and really are just taking up space on this planet. Nothing would please me more to hear that they had beeen sexually assaulted by Santina Marella and BDJ. On the other hand, I am a fan of Norton, but it doesn't surprise me at all that he's involved in this. It's part of his schtick and fits his MO.
Posted by: Virginia Pete | December 4, 2009 11:27 PM
He's a occasional guest on my favorite late night show 'Red Eye.' He's usually self-deprecating and easy going. But this is politics and Venture somewhat belittled his opinions by bringing up service. Even during Raw he called Cheney a "coward" presumably for the same reason. Name calling is going to inflame people and is a unfortunate direction political discourse in this country is heading.
It's like someone disagreeing with you Kev, and then asking "where are your wrestling injuries?"
Posted by: Phillip Reynolds | December 5, 2009 1:18 AM
They were both wrong. They fed into the usual jibber jabber yell fest that goes on during many radio and TV programs.
Posted by: Cliff | December 5, 2009 2:00 AM
Jesse Ventura is a joke.
Posted by: Randy | December 5, 2009 2:00 AM
I'm from Boston, which means that I had original dibs on detesting these particular afternoon-drivetime adolescent twerps. (They started out here, and were fired.) But even I will say, Kevin...you're being a bit one-sided.
Yes, Ventura was deliberately provoked. However, he didn't exactly behave like a measured, respectful person himself. Let's remember that while many wrestlers might have thrown a punch under those circumstances—Ventura is a former governor. I can't be particularly enthused about applauding a former governor for NOT throwing a punch as if it's some great accomplishment.
He could have handled himself better. At least, he could have walked out earlier, and in a more dignified manner.
Posted by: Stephen | December 5, 2009 3:06 AM
Saw the clip...and I am offended. You call the offender a comedian. Now Im a comedian.. and I swear that "comedian" wasnt funny... wasnt even close to funny..and the few times I have seen him I failed to laugh. How does this happen ??
Posted by: david | December 5, 2009 3:43 AM
The "comedian" is question is not, and never has been funny. Just a blowhard who probably got into comedy (if you can call it that) because he made his drinking buddies laugh at an open-mic years ago.
All I could bear to watch was about a minute of him constantly raising his voice to shout over Ventura. Just because you're louder, it doesn't make you smarter.
Dude's not funny. Just an idiot.
Posted by: JD | December 5, 2009 6:56 AM
Wow, I'm impressed at the constraint that Ventura showed I know I would have struggled not to take the 'comedian' up on his offer of a punch up!
I think it's plainly obvious who walked away with their dignity intact.
Posted by: Mike C | December 5, 2009 2:20 PM
"And i thought it was pretty petty of Jesse to saying "thanks for your service", as if the other person's lack of military service makes him less of a person."
If Jesse was saying that the U.S. should not have gone to war with Iraq, then I absolutely agree with him.
That being said, however, I never like it when somebody acts as though serving in the military makes them special. I don't think that the guy was right in this case, but I don't think that it's relevant to the debate that Jesse was in Vietnam. Unless Jesse was saying "Listen, I've been to war. So I know firsthand how tough it is on our soldiers, and that's why I'd think twice before sending to war." Then it would be relevant.
Debates are supposed to be about facts, not the personal histories of the people debating.
Posted by: Rob Brown | December 5, 2009 2:34 PM
you disappoint me Kevin.
Ventura is a tool that doesn't deserve mention. His views are despicable. His debating tactics questionable.
Posted by: Roger | December 5, 2009 6:22 PM
Eh, I don't really see a 'good guy' or 'victim' in this incident. They may have been baiting Ventura to try to make him blow up, but let's not pretend that Ventura is an innocent guy that was just completely blind-sided here. Ventura's reputation as a loose-canon is what brought this on (you'd never see this happen in an interview with Tim Kaine or Mitt Romney). While that doesn't excuse what happened at all, let's not lay all the blame on the interviewer/comedian. It was a d--- move on their part, but Ventura took the bait to a degree. Probably 75% their fault, 35% Ventura's.
Posted by: Michael in Virginia | December 6, 2009 6:37 AM
Wow unbelievable....you listen to a five minute clip of a 45 minute interview and form an opinion. If you listened to the show (Opie and Anthony) you would know that the comedian Jim Norton was upset because Jesse told Jim he did not believe in the constitution.
Posted by: Hippojuice | December 6, 2009 11:44 PM
Sir, if you're going to comment on the situation you really should make sure you know exactly what happened during the 'confrontation.' It's great and all that you feel like you need to comment on it, but give both sides a fair go by listening to the audio of the interview. Maybe check out Jim Norton talking about it on Joy Behar's show. They hold no hard feelings against Mr. Venture and would have him back on their program in a heartbeat to discuss what happened in a civil manner.
Posted by: Cole | December 7, 2009 12:01 AM
This is one of the most ignorant writings about this incident I have seen. First off Ventura has been on the [show] before and enjoyed a spirited debate with [comedian and host]. He chose to come back and debated them again for well over an hour. It only got ugly because Jesse questioned [comedian's] patriotism and said he had no right to an opinion because he hadn't served. Second, do really honestly believe a better interview tactic is to let this guy spew his crazy unfounded beliefs and never challenge them ask him to back them up? Gee that's interesting, compelling radio! Stick to writing about the "sport" of wrestling. leave radio to the professionals.
Posted by: Grant from Cleveland | December 7, 2009 12:16 AM
First of all, don't worry, they don't need a blog on the Baltimore Sun site to improve their listener base.
Secondly, 5 minutes is a small amount of time compared to the 90+ minute interview. This was also the third time Ventura has been on their show, so by now, Jim Norton knows how to get this guy to listen.
It's blatantly obvious that Ventura doesn't allow one person to speak and then the other. He also doesn't allow other's questions to be answered with a well thought out counter-point, instead resorting to either using a completely ridiculous hypothetical scenario (Jesse said mafia/biker gangs would hijack planes if it served in their interest), dodging the question, or just moving to an entirely different subject all together.
Finally, two quick things. Opie and Anthony are hardly as shocking as they used to be, so "shock jocks" is a dated term. Secondly, would any other interview bother doing any research like calling a renowned physicist, Michio Kaku to ask about how a building would fall, or would they just let him ramble with milk toast soft ball setups?
Posted by: Derek | December 7, 2009 12:30 AM
OK first off, Kevin you say you don't watch any of those shows that Jim Norton has been on, really? No Conan, Jay, Dave, Chelsea Handler, Hannity. Second you heard 5 minutes of an hour long interview, an hour, the whole time all Jesse talks about is how he is a Navy Seal and that his government lied to him about the Gulf of Tonkin. Third he has been on the show twice before, each time spouting off about how 9-11 was an inside job and and one point told the hosts not to sleep and that he was a navy seal(veiled threat anyone). Lastly the only reason you are writing about this now is so you can leach off of the hype that has been buzzing about this.
RESPONSE FROM KE: Really. I don't watch Conan, Jay or Dave. I have no idea who Chelsea Handler is. Hannity? Be serious.
Posted by: madsatcom | December 7, 2009 12:31 AM
I find it interesting that you would comment on an interview you didn't take the rime to listen to fully. Next time as a service to your readers fully inform yourself before you make a judgement call about who was rude or the party that actually started the agressiveness in the interview. As for Jim Norton; he is one of the top comedians working and is a regular on Red Eye as well as a recuring roll on Jay Leno; you might have heard of Jay? You came to the issue siding with the wrestler without even bothering to do your research and that speaks volumes. Opie & Anthony is one of the most popular shows on xm radio. In the very least hear the whole interview before you comment next time... Woo who
RESPONSE FROM KE: In the five-minute clip I saw the "comedian" making fun of Ventura's haircut, spewing four-letter words at him, talking over him and, as I said, doing everything possible to get Ventura to take a swing at him.
Posted by: Artist still known as chillydogsixtyone | December 7, 2009 12:57 AM
Hello INCOMPETANT IDIOT! When you report on wrestling matches do you only watch five minutes of the matches on youtube?! FOOLs like you only Viewing part of the conbersation is why neespapers are dying! Your report is incomplete, BIAS, and INACCURATE! Jim Norton has an HBO special, performed in Lucky Louie, appeared on David Letterman, and has appeared Weekly on Jay Leno since Jay started un his new time slot. When Jesse Ventura (an attention whore over the hill marginal wrester who quit his govenors job) appeared on the Opie and Anthony show.... Well Jesse was the FIRST to RAISE his voice, TALK over Jim Norton and THRETENED Jim by saying " lets step outside." Of course you would'nt report a washed up 6"8' three hundred some pound wrestler implying that his strength and size would make him more intelegent than a 5"8 150 pound Lil Jimmy Norton. I will be the first ROFLMAO when your newspaper folds do to incopetent reporting by BIAS IDIOTS like YOU! Enjoy unemployment FOOL!
RESPONSE FROM KE: I love being called incompetent by someone who spells the word two different ways -- and both are wrong.
Posted by: Lady Trucker | December 7, 2009 1:11 AM
How about listening to the entire interview and not just a 5 minute clip. If you had listened to the interview you would have heard the "wrestler" talking over everyone and not letting anyone else in the studio challenge his opinions. Also he did not walk out because of a 9/11 discussion. He walked out because he was getting his a** handed to him in a heated discussion on immigration. Do a little research before commenting on something you know nothing about. Try being a responsible journalist for one. Oh wait your a wrestling BLOGGER not a journalist.
RESPONSE FROM KE: I have listened to the entire 90-minute interview.
Posted by: geffen76 | December 7, 2009 8:44 AM
Kevin,
I am glad that you have managed to display such a lack of journalistic responsibility in your report on this matter. You have clearly spelled out that you have not listened to the entire audio from this discussion, as well as you have no idea of the comedian or even the show in question, yet you feel that you can sum up their entire body of work as "shock jock' and mean spirited. That would be like one of us writing a blog and assuming you are an uneducated wrestling fan who drinks beer and smokes cigarettes with your baby in the car. Your defense when confronted with this lack of research is that the comedian in question spoke over Ventura, that he cursed, that he tried to get Ventura to swing at him. Your interpretation of the events is your opinion, and yes there was swearing and yes there was talking over, it was being done by both parties. The violence you mention is completely with Ventura as he postured up against the comedian. Ventura was very menacing and he was the one who kept approaching the comedian.
I expect you to dismiss my comments as you have done with every other post disagreeing with your opinion. It shouldn't surprise me as you have dismissed journalistic integrity and responsibility simply to boost your readership by riding the coat tails of a story CNN and other credible news sources picked up earlier last week. Maybe this is why you are considered a wrestling blogger and not a real journalist. But maybe I am lowering my discourse to come down to your level.
Next time please check your facts, and get the whole story before you uniform your readers with your opinion.
RESPONSE FROM KE: I have listened to the entire interview. I never said that I hadn't heard of the show; I said that I hadn't heard of the comedian. I know about the show and its reputation.
Posted by: Chris Starman | December 7, 2009 8:59 AM
Kev,
Normally a great blog but when you stick your nose into something that you don't take the time to fully understand you come of sounding like an idiot and embarrassing yourself. You can't watch a five minute You Tube clip of something and post your opinions on it without knowing the whole story. Ventura never let's anyone else get their opinion across at anytime. If you don't agree with him you're wrong. He is a complete nut job and has been proven to be a fraud. He constantly states that he was a "Navy Seal" ummm no you weren't Jesse. You were a member of the Navy UDT team in Vietnam a precursor to the Seals by ten years or so. He was never actually a SEAL.
You have said above that you don't watch a number of shows and didn't know who Jim Norton was. You also said a couple of months ago you didn't know who a certain actor was even though he had been in some of the most succesful and funny movies of the past three years. Just what do you watch? Enlighten us......
RESPONSE FROM KE: Besides wrestling and sports, not much other than 24, Bill Maher and movies.
Posted by: OandAMDFan | December 7, 2009 9:45 AM
Watch the other Ventura clips linked to this one on Youtube... he has a tendency to want to be the only one talking. If you disagree with him, you'll get shouted down or he'll imply that your opinion is worthless because you weren't A NAVY SEAL.
Posted by: Andrew Hime | December 7, 2009 1:26 PM
Kevin, is it me or do all of this comedians fans have trouble forming complete and coherent sentences?
Posted by: Major Mel Funkshun | December 7, 2009 2:51 PM
In the five-minute clip that I saw on YouTube, the “comedian” raised his voice (even after Ventura asked him to calm down), spoke over him, insulted him and basically did everything he could to get Ventura to take a swing at him. I thought Ventura showed remarkable restraint by not doing so. I honestly can’t say that I could have done the same thing under those circumstances
You are a liar. If you had listened to the entire interview, you would have mentioned that in your piece, but geffen76 called you out and now you heard the entire interview? No you didn't. The only thing worse than an uninformed writer is a lying one. But what would one expect from a grown man who writes about a fake sport? The only thing a writer truly has is his credibility, and you've just blown yours. Loser.
RESPONSE FROM KE: I saw the five-minute clip and posted my thoughts on what I saw. I later listened to the entire interview. The audio was on youtube in 10 takes. So yes, I heard it all -- the parts about Jesse's Conspiracy show, Afghanistan, comparing Hell's Angels to the Taliban, Jesse's fear of 2012, getting asked to show his papers in Arizona, etc. Next.
Posted by: ds | December 7, 2009 5:21 PM
How can you write a blog about this and only view the 5 min piece on you tube. you did not listen to the whole interview so dont write this any more about it till you do. You are a very uncredible source. the discussion was good and heated and they
disagreed. Jimmy was very much right in this instance.
RESPONSE FROM KE: Uncredible? I think you meant that I'm an incredible source.
Posted by: Phil | December 7, 2009 5:31 PM
I've seen him before and I've never heard of him still. Textbook ham and egger.
Posted by: James C | December 7, 2009 6:00 PM
Kevin, all you have to do is mention this 'comedian' and Bret Hart and you could have people going back and forth so much that you could take the rest of the year off.
On the bright side, at least they're not calling you a gelatinous parastic sychophant... those are fightin' words.
Posted by: eee | December 7, 2009 7:18 PM
Congratulations, you're famous! Proving ignorance will always get you a spotlight. Enjoy your 15 minutes, then go back down to your bedroom in your parents basement.
RESPONSE FROM KE: If being famous means that listeners of that show now know who I am, fame isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Posted by: jeremy kapusta | December 7, 2009 7:39 PM
RESPONSE FROM KE: In the five-minute clip I saw the "comedian" making fun of Ventura's haircut, spewing four-letter words at him, talking over him and, as I said, doing everything possible to get Ventura to take a swing at him.
You mention having heard the whole 90 min interview, but obviously AFTER forming your baseless, biased opinion of the show who's "reputation" you are familliar with. That five minute clip took place at the end of that 90 minutes, while you made no effort to acknowledge what led up to it that might have justified either man's frustration (for what it's worth, even IN that five minutes, the "comic" was RETURNING four letter words to Ventura, not just spewing them.) Ventura is hardly a credible source of any information; during that 90 minutes, he claimed in response to a direct question that one of the only things he was afraid of was the Mayan predictions of 2012, but on a "live" chat on LiveStream that night (I was, I admit, as a fan of the show, logging on to harass the goon), said in direct response to that specific question that it didn't worry him because "...the Mayans only said the world AS WE KNOW IT would end". And I put live in quotes because, in scrutinously checking the feeds (some of us non-journalists use a little thing called "research"), I could find almost none of the questions he was answering being asked; either Jesse was stacking the deck as a liar, or being handled by his publicist like a child.
And frankly you could take a lesson from Opie and Anthony; they once had on Bill Donahue of the Catholic League (the very guy who got them fired for the church thing) on the phone with the full intention of holding a grudge and tearing him a new one, but after hearing the guy's side of things, actually started liking him. You know; hearing both sides of something, then forming an opinion instead of just printing your own pre-story biases (something else apparently ONLY us non-journalists do). He's been on the phone several times since, and it's almost always been spirited, dissenting and most of all NON-threatening.
Your blog emphasizes the reason more people trust Jon Stewart to CNN or Fox for the news; the comedians are more concerned with the facts these days than the so-called journalists are.
Well, that's my two cents. I'll log off now and send you back to your obscurity.
RESPONSE FROM KE: I'm very happy in my obscurity, thank you. As for my biases, this is an opinion blog and I voiced my opinion -- hence the title "my take on ...". I wasn't writing a news story. I know you non-journalists probably don't understand the difference.
Posted by: Scott Brown | December 7, 2009 7:53 PM
"RESPONSE FROM KE: Besides wrestling and sports, not much other than 24, Bill Maher and movies"
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And The Wire too right?
And what moron would say they hope the entire newspaper industry dies because they disagree with you criticizing an idiot comedian?
RESPONSE FROM KE: I think you answered your own question.
Posted by: Frank King | December 7, 2009 8:29 PM
Kev, I must say I'm pumped I came back to this entry because the last few comments have been absolute gems. From seeing Hannity included with names like Leno and Letterman to multiple spelling errors and personal attacks on your journalistic credibility. Do they realize you have an actual job at the Baltimore Sun? Probably not, but to be fair, I'm sure there are many things in this world they have trouble realizing.
For a second, I thought I was reading a Bret Hart entry.
Posted by: Pat Coyne | December 8, 2009 1:20 AM
Why didn't you go on the radio? You clearly didn't hear the entire interview and then backed off when you had the chance to defend your words. All those people saying that Norton, who by-the-way is an incredible comedian, was constantly talking over Ventura clearly didn't listen to the whole interview. I watched Ventura's new show and it was complete garbage, it was fake and proved absolutely nothing - other than a Navy Seal/Pro Wrestler/ Governor can be incredibly boring. Also, Kevin you have repeatedly said, "I have listened to the entire interview" yet when you put up your blog you said you watched the 5 minute clip on youtube. Just for interest sake, how did you hear the entire clip? illegal download after the fact? Also, you constantly use quotations to devalue Jim Norton as a comedian, rest assured, he is a comedian and one of the best around. It also begs the question, why attack Jim Norton's credibility as a comedian while incorrectly responding to the five minute youtube clip? They are grown men who can have an argument and its pretty ridiculous to think that a comedian would want a physical altercation, he's a comedian he uses words not his fists. Also, another question, if you don't listen to the show, how do you know they are Howard Stern wannabes? why are they mean-spirited?
RESPONSE FROM KE: First off, I want to commend you for refraining from using vulgar language and using spell-check. That makes you pretty unique on this thread.
I listened to the entire interview on youtube (the audio was in 10 takes). I don't have to be a regular listener of their show to know they are Stern wannabes. Their antics are common knowledge. What purpose would it serve to go on their show? It would make me look pretty hypocritical. There are already people commenting here athat are accusing me of writing the blog entry to try to "leech" off their popularity. Nothing could be further from the truth. If that was the case, I'd have gone on the show and the hosts and I could have yelled over each other and then I'd have my "15 minutes" as someone put it.
Anyway, since so many fans of the show have such a low opinion of me as a journalist and a person, who cares what I have to say? No one reads my fake wrestling blog anyway, right?
BTW, I found some real funny stuff from the talented comedian. Not mean-spirited at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPprpcubklA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0gUKlqihPQ
Chris Jericho seems to really think the guy is funny, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ZkGFr-CT8&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjm2mKplNlo
WARNING: There is a lot of vulgar language on these clips.
Posted by: Mat M | December 8, 2009 1:31 AM
They tried numerous times today to get this guy on the phone and discuss the matter. He wouldn't even come to the phone he got his wife to give some excuse for him.
RESPONSE FROM KE: Not that I owe you an explanation, but for the record, I went to bed at 5 a.m. after spending a long night at the office doing some of that journalism stuff that I don't know anything about (even though I've been in the business for 25 years). They called around 8:30. The "excuse" was that I was asleep. But the truth is, I wouldn't have gone on no matter what time of day they called. What would be the point? I have no interest in getting into a p------ match on the radio over something so trivial.
Posted by: Luther Blissett | December 8, 2009 2:14 AM
I just want to say as a life long wrestling fan and a 6 month O&A fan I think you could of helped show wrestling fans aren't all stupid by being on the show. They actually allowed people to call in and the wrestling fans defending you were NOT yelled at and allowed to speak but were not intelligent enough to make a proper argument. I respectfully disagree with all your points. Especially the whole "stern wannabes"-which is just a childish personal attack considering their "antics" have changed greatly over the years: something I've even noticed by comparing old youtube clips to the show I listen to today.
Also they stated numerous amounts of times they wanted you to come on, give your a chance to say your piece, and explain it to you from their point of view. It wasn't going to be an attack bit. Then again you would never know that as you refused to come on.
Late night/early morning aside. What do you have to gain from being on O&A? How bout standing up for what you actually believe when confronted person to person. If anything there is a ton of self respect, no matter the outcome, that you would bring yourself and your fans.
Posted by: Andrew Vaughan | December 8, 2009 7:45 AM
Once again you have neglected to do your research. The clip you posted of Chris Jericho arguing with Jim Norton happened over a year ago. Jericho had appeared on the show several times before AND since that event. It was a misunderstanding both men apologized and Jericho actually really likes Jim Norton and appeared on TV with him since this event.
If you listened to the entire interview as you claim you did you would have heard that Norton agreed with 70-80 percent of what Ventura had to say and Venture himself also screamed and cursed. The Opie and Anthony show does push the edge from time to time but they also are very diverse. I've heard them have plenty of intelligent conversations about things like politics and race. Unlike most of the other people that interviewed Ventura they had the wherewithal to challenge him on some of his fact which they felt didn't make since and that is how this argument happened.
My main problem with the tone of this article is that you automatically passed judgment on Opie and Anthony and the show they do when you had only heard 5mins of and interview that lasted well over an hour. I'm not saying you can't disagree but at least have all the information before you do so.
RESPONSE FROM KE: I know the Jericho clip isn't new, but it does show the tactics of the hosts. Is making fun of a paraplegic really funny? I guess to some, but obviously Jericho didn't think so. I love how the comedian apologizes by saying "If I had know he was your friend I wouldn't have said it." Oh, so that makes it OK? I also sent the link to that clip to show how Jericho wanted to drop it and move on, but the comedian wouldn't let it go.
Posted by: sideshowRaheem | December 8, 2009 11:23 AM
I'm glad you wrote this article, Kevin, because if anyone in the future wants to know if your are an overly biased writer who lacks the ablity to check his facts, this is a perfect article to read.
Hate whoever you want to hate, and kiss the ass of whatever wrestler you want, but at least take the time to bone up on your topic before you go at it.
RESPONSE FROM KE: I don't hate anybody, and I wasn't trying to kiss anyone's ass either. Jesse Ventura doesn't need me to defend him.
Posted by: Ken Mills | December 8, 2009 12:59 PM
Yeah, I agree, being the most popular show in the history of Satellite Radio would make them complete Howard Stern wannabes
RESPONSE FROM KE: Didn't the one guy actually get his start on Howard Stern?
Posted by: Phil | December 8, 2009 1:14 PM
Pass the popcorn, this thread is hilarious!
Some things I have learned:
1) Spellcheck seems to be the hardest thing to find on the net.
2) YELL LOUDLY AND MAKE YOUR POINT.
3) Curse words form the basis of intelligent discourse for numerous people apparently.
4) Apparently opinions have to be based on 6 weeks of research regarding a radio show, and all it's guests, the topics at hand, as well as a find grasp of Thermonuclear Dyanmics and Quantum Physics. --Funny, I could have sworn that everyone was entitled to an opinion...except if it differs from mine...then LOUD NOISES!!!
5)Kevin doesn't watch a lot of things other than wrestling, the Ravens/Orioles, and 24. (That's amazing, but also good to know for future commenting)
6)Something you do in your spare time (ie. an op-ed piece/blog) that generates disagreements must therefore mean that you are uber-horrible at your chosen profession of journalism.
7)No wonder you didn't want to offer your thoughts on the matter in the first place!
Posted by: G | December 8, 2009 1:54 PM
Did you even try listening to the FULL interview on Opie and Anthony? Jim Norton was in the right. You saw exactly what you wanted to see - a small segment of the full interview that allows you to lionize your hero. Do your homework.
RESPONSE FROM KE: I have seen the whole interview. I stopped having heroes when I was a kid.
Posted by: Matthew | December 8, 2009 2:31 PM
If you had listened to the whole show, your opinion would probably be different. :D
RESPONSE FROM KE: I'll just keep saying it -- I have heard the whole interview.
Posted by: Nyaasu | December 8, 2009 3:42 PM
If you are a Bill Maher fan ...I at least understand why you are defending the nonsense that Ventura was saying. It is pathetic he's mad that someone would dare challenge the theory he puts forth...Frankly, he's a Rosie O'Donnell liberal....be what you want just don't expect normal people to leave that bilge unchallenged.
RESPONSE FROM KE: Oh, come on. No one is as bad as Rosie O'Donnell!
Posted by: Jd | December 8, 2009 4:14 PM
Kevin,
Ignore these apparent keyboard warriors, their bravery extends only to what their fingers can type. Often times spewing comments to disrespect and discredit that which really means very little from them. Words that are spoken should always words that you believe in.
Hence don't believe these words for they nothing more but the words of pretentious cowards.
Everything you write on this blog is your take on wrestling. So it should come as no surprise that everyone should have known from the get go that this was "Your Take" on the whole situation.
Can't satisfy everybody Kevin, keep the faith regardless.
Posted by: Brian | December 8, 2009 5:09 PM
In your response to me you said "paraplegic really funny". Are you kidding me dude. I am an avid wrestling fan and we both know Vince has pulled some stunts that made that joke seem tame by comparison. You can make that kind of "holier than thou" comment about any joke. Injecting humor into something should not imply that the source is funny and you don't have to go any further then TV shows like Family Guy and South Park to see similar jokes about disabled people so lets not pretend like Jim Norton is somehow the lowest of the low because he made that comment. The bottom line is he didn't know about Jericho's mom when he said it and only pointed out that if he made a joke about some other disability the didn't effect Jericho personally Jericho would have laughed along with the group.
As far as there "tactics" go Opie and Anthony do not avoid confrontation but that should not suggest they were looking to get Jericho or Ventura upset. If they are having a conversation and there is a disagreement then they discus it openly rather then tuck it under the rug like most broadcasters do, that's part of what makes there show entertaining. They could have just let Jesse ramble on forever but that would have made them no different then the 20 other shows that interviewed him. I like Ventura but some of his claims are a little silly and they just asked him to back up his comments. He was the one who started yelling and cursing, he was the one who pushed his mic away and refused to talk after he was challenged so to blame this incident on the hosts is just silly IMO.
Posted by: sideshowRaheem | December 9, 2009 10:07 AM
I used to idlized Ventura. Now he is ridiculous.
He said on 11/3/09 on Larry King that if put up for a popular vote, we’d have slavery again here in America.
The guy really needs a psychological exam.
Posted by: Bad News | December 9, 2009 11:02 AM
Brian,
This isn't about anyone being a " keyboard warrior ". It isn't about questioning the merits of Opie, Anthony, or Jim Norton. It isn't even about the validity of Jesse Ventura's claims. This is about a person who wrote one thing in his column (" In the five-minute clip I saw on YouTube"), then when challenged, claims he did the opposite. it's about that perosn's lack of integrity and respect for his profession. And it's about that person's arrogance when called out. We don't have to agree on anything, but at least be honest within the discourse.
RESPONSE FROM KE: If I lacked integrity as you say, I would have deleted your comment.
Posted by: ds | December 9, 2009 2:31 PM
Oh, and BTW, Anthony did not get his start on Stern, he sang a parody song on his show. He got his start when he and his brother sang a parody song about O.J. Simpson (" Gonna Electric Shock O.J."), on Opie's show. I'd say get you facts straight, but I already know you're incapable of doing that.
RESPONSE FROM KE: Did I say that he got his start on Stern or did I ask if he did? One is a statement and the other is a question. Get your facts straight. Oh, and thanks for clearing it up for me.
Posted by: ds | December 9, 2009 2:39 PM
That Jimmy guy is a complete loud mouth. He seems to have something against Jesse because he is "bigger and stronger". Hardly think that somehow negates Jesse's point. He also seems to suggest that Jesse threatened him. Never happened.
Posted by: John Wilding | December 9, 2009 6:13 PM
Eck, I think you should go punt kick Jim Norton in the head. Jack in Hebron and I can go along as your Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase.
Posted by: Elevation | December 9, 2009 8:19 PM
Dear sideshowRaheem, the entire first paragraph of your last post was not very well thought out. This has nothing to do with the McMahons. This has nothing to do with Family Guy nor South Park. Jim Norton has not said anything that I - and no, I don't have extensive experience with his comedy - has said funny. There is nothing - may I repeat, NOTHING - that is funny about paraplegics.
Posted by: Marko50 | December 10, 2009 12:17 AM
Dear DS, you are wrong. Perhaps it would do you good to read a little better.
This isn't about anyone being a " keyboard warrior ". It isn't about questioning the merits of Opie, Anthony, or Jim Norton. It isn't even about the validity of Jesse Ventura's claims. This is about a person who wrote one thing in his column (" In the five-minute clip I saw on YouTube"), then when challenged, claims he did the opposite.
This is a blatant lie on your behalf. If it wasn't about O, A, Jim or Jesse, then there would not be so many "virgin" comments in this column. That is ALL it is about. Further, if you had read all of the preceding, you would have read that Kevin went back and listened to the entire 90+ minutes after the "virgins" started writing in. Please try not to twist people's words. It just makes you look like a fool.
Posted by: Marko50 | December 10, 2009 12:24 AM
@Elevation
You've completely don't get my point. The purposes of comedy is to make fun of things that at the base level aren't funny. There's nothing really funny about a married man with two kids cheating on his wife but I've sure heard a lot of Tiger Woods jokes as of late. I'm sure the people involved, his wife and her family don't find the situation as funny as the rest of us because their directly connected to it. Just like Jericho is directly connected to a paraplegic. Do Jim Norton, Seth McFarland or Matt and Trey from South Park go into hospitals and point and laugh at disabled people....of course not but they do make light of very serious situations and that is the nature of comedy.
Posted by: sideshowRaheem | December 11, 2009 12:25 PM
Uh, sideshow, that was my comment, not Elevation's. I just don't get no respect.
Anyway, the purpose of comedy is definately not to make fun of things. It's to make people laugh at some level. The way to do that may be to make fun, but I don't see that as the major way, much less the only way. And I don't see anything funny about paraplegics. Maybe back in the day I might have thought otherwise and possibly repeated one or more of those jokes. Something about Johnny and second base, possibly. (Geez, is that too inside? I watched TNA last night.) But I think a mature sense of humor would not find that funny.
Or maybe I just heard it too many times? Nawwwww....
Posted by: Marko50 | December 11, 2009 10:59 PM
Woo you stirred quite the bee hive here. Seems like all the Opie and Anthony fans have come to defend those no talent buffoons. And that guy jimmy norton.. oh god he is just so not funny hes a good troll though as you can clearly see in the video. kinda looks like one too or a goblin at least. But jimmy norton is wrong. He doesnt know about the facts. Our attack isnt a retaliation on them but their retaliation to our aggression.
Posted by: SilkBandit | December 12, 2009 2:54 AM
"the purpose of comedy is definately not to make fun of things."
I don't even know where to go from there dude if that is your honest assessment of comedy then there is no use continuing.
Posted by: sideshowRaheem | December 14, 2009 2:48 PM
Regardless if he is or is not funny, it's obvious his primary goal isn't to make people laugh or add to the discussion, but instead to try to stir up controversy in an attempt to increase his fame. That's the problem I have with him, it's the same thing with people like Heidi and Spencer Pratt, these people are real life heels who just provoke to get attention, they think fame and infamy are the same thing. So, from this thread I am now able to put a face to the name Jim Norton, looks like he wins.
Posted by: Koska | December 18, 2009 4:08 AM
After reading all of the drivel posted in response to this blog, I think this only goes to prove how many idiots there are that reside in the USA.
Posted by: andy | December 18, 2009 8:56 AM
well, there are really people that are still wanting much more attention even if almost all of the eyes are already looking at them.
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