baltimoresun.com

« SummerSlam thoughts | Main | John Cena grants wish for ailing Maryland boy »

August 25, 2009

Floyd Mayweather episode of Raw lacks punch

To paraphrase a famous movie quote, as far as Raw guest hosts go, Floyd Mayweather could have been a contender. He could have been somebody instead of a bum, which is what he was.

Based on Mayweather’s showmanship and his fine performance at WrestleMania last year, I was expecting the boxing star to be an entertaining guest host on Monday night’s episode of Raw. Instead, “Money” Mayweather was practically worthless.

He didn’t make his first appearance on the show until late in the first hour, and he was in just two segments total. Mayweather, who was supposed to be in charge of the show, didn’t even book the main event (Triple H did). The only talent that Mayweather interacted with was Chris Jericho, The Big Show, MVP and Vince McMahon.

Before Mayweather finally graced the audience with his presence, the announcers kept saying that he was “on his way” and would “be here any minute.” I’m guessing that Mayweather really did arrive at the arena a lot later than he was supposed to, because it sure seemed like WWE was stalling for time. The segment at the top of the show with DX and McMahon lasted more than 20 minutes, and the first match did not take place until 9:32. Perhaps Mayweather was running behind schedule because of the police investigation of a shooting outside a skating rink in Las Vegas Sunday night that allegedly involved one of Mayweather’s associates.

With Mayweather’s lackluster appearance setting the tone, Raw just never hit its stride this week.

Other thoughts on Monday’s show:

The DX-McMahon segment, which saw Shawn Michaels and Triple H set up an elaborate celebration in honor of McMahon’s 64th birthday, had its moments, but it definitely began to drag after a while. At 9:18, McMahon asked, “How long is this going to go on?” I was thinking the exact same thing. …

When a large fake birthday cake was brought to ringside, I was certain that either Santino Marella in drag or Mae Young was in it. Instead, Big Dick Johnson popped out (I can’t believe I just wrote that). How does a gyrating, oiled-up fat guy in a Speedo qualify as family entertainment? The divas have reportedly been reprimanded for showing too much cleavage, but the obscene BDJ is OK? What is the “WWE Universe” coming to? …

Based on how Triple H was interacting with McMahon during the birthday segment, it seemed as if WWE was asking viewers to suddenly forget that McMahon was his father-in-law. Their family ties were acknowledged later in the show, however. …

The six-man tag match main event that pitted DX and McMahon against Legacy was OK. McMahon got a nice birthday present by scoring the winning pin on Orton. With the way it was done – Orton took a super-kick from Michaels and an Attitude Adjustment from John Cena in succession to set up the pin – I didn’t mind the WWE champion jobbing to the WWE chairman. …

I like the way WWE followed up on the incident during the Orton-Cena match at SummerSlam in which a fan jumped in the ring and got involved in the action. Legacy acknowledged in the opening segment that the “fan” was Brett DiBiase, Ted Jr.’s younger brother, but that Orton had nothing to do with his actions. It was presented in a way that suggested Orton was behind it without having him come right out and admit it. …

The confrontation between Mayweather and The Big Show, his opponent at WrestleMania XXIV, was disappointing, although I’m not sure what more they really could have done. With Mayweather scheduled to fight on pay-per-view in less than a month, he and his people most likely didn’t want him doing anything physical. …

Mayweather was booed at first, but the fans warmed up a bit to him when he sided with MVP and Mark Henry. …

MVP was very good on the mic when confronting Jericho and The Big Show. Henry got a big pop when MVP revealed that Henry would be his tag team partner. I liked the pairing of these two. …

In the nontitle tag match between MVP and Henry and champions Jericho and Big Show, MVP pinned Jericho after using brass knuckles that were handed to him by Mayweather. Babyfaces using brass knuckles to win? What’s up with that? …

Something tells me that whenever the Jericho-Big Show team needs to lose to build for a pay-per-view match, Jericho will always be the one doing the job. …

Alicia Fox pinning divas champion Mickie James in a six-woman tag match was a surprise. Is the James-Gail Kim program over already? …

Is it just me, or was Jillian Hall’s voice not that bad when she was imitating Marilyn Monroe singing “Happy Birthday?” …

What was with all the noise in the background when DX was plugging merchandise backstage? If that was an inside joke, I must be on the outside. …

The video of McMahon singing “Stand Back” never gets old.

Posted by Kevin Eck at 1:12 PM | | Comments (43)
        

Comments

Agree with pretty much everything you said. I'll just add that it was nice to see/hear the fans really get behind MVP, especially given the deafening silence he received at SummerFest. I'm not his biggest fan, but I can't for the life of me figure out why he can't get over. Above-average in the ring, good on the mic, good (and legitimate) back-story, and he seems like a genuinely good guy. I'm not a mark for him, but I don't mind seeing him in the ring. I really like the MVP-Henry pairing; neither had much going on at the moment, so this could really help out both of them, as well as the tag team division.

RESPONSE FROM KE: The reason MVP can't get over to a significant level is easy: WWE hasn't given him a main event level push. Why they won't I have no idea.

I can't be the only one that thought Vince was going to turn on DX....it just seemed the whole show was leading up to that conclusion.

I couldn't have I been the only one?

RESPONSE FROM KE: Honestly, that never crossed my mind.

How can you ever have a no-DQ tag team match? Couldn't anyone enter the ring whenever they wanted?
Could someone out of HHH, Cena and HBK please turn heel? If they're going to continually keep booking these guys in matches together, along with Orton, can something new happen?

Ever since I was a boy
Everybody told me
What I should do
And who I should be

Stand back (Stand Back!)
That's a fact!

classic...

The Big JeriShow vs. MarkVP will be a great short program, but I have a feeling we might be seeing this all lead to the eventual Jericho/Edge rivalry and a Show/Henry rivalry (big men collide, a VKM favorite) with the Hart Dynasty sneaking into a tag title reign that their Dungeon ties almost require them to have eventually.

By the way, outstanding blog! Keep it up!

While I found the Big Dick Johnson portion of the show underwhelmingly funny, I did find it funny that Michael Cole coughed out the Dick part in Johnson's name to cover it up. I guess Johnson didn't get a family friendly name yet.

Did you catch Vince's comment about the Cirque du Soleil guys? Unless I'm hearing things, he said that their masks were "gay." Now how is THAT family entertainment? How is that even entertainment?

I havent really watched wrestling for a long time now. but I tuned in cause I am now a boxing fan. at some point I was expecting bautista to pop in and mention manny pacquiao, seeing that he was a part of his entourage. not to mention his the villian in the upcoming pac-movie. and that sound in the back ground during merchandise promo, id assume it was because the merchandise was WCW and DX, being the stable that they are would pull a stunt like that.

I was disappointed with this week's raw. Mayweather failed to live up to the hype. When Mvp came out during the Mayweather/Jericho/Show segment, he got the crowd more hyped up especially when he told told Jericho to "shut up". The opening segment was good except it was too lllloooonnggg. 5/10 for this week's show.

Babyfaces using brass knuckles to win? What’s up with that? …

Eddie Guerrero used to be a cheating babyface, didn't he?

Is it just me, or was Jillian Hall’s voice not that bad when she was imitating Marilyn Monroe singing “Happy Birthday?” …

It's not just you. Between that and the wig, I wondered for a second whether it was her.

RESPONSE FROM KE: Eddie's cheating was his gimmick and it was always kind of playful. KO'ing someone with brass knuckles is out of character for a face -- unless the heel tried to use them first, which wasn't the case here.

Kev,

Mayweather had legal issues that made him late. He was required to stay until the proceedings concluded.

RESPONSE FROM KE: That's what I thought.

It beats me how the antics of two men with a combined age of eighty-four acting like a pair of ninth graders can get so much adoration from fans. I didn't understand the appeal of DX twelve years ago, and I don't get it now. Whether you like DX or you don't is a just a matter of opinion; what is a matter of fact is that their shtick monopolized time that could have been spent on putting some young talent in the spotlight. Was Jack Swagger even on the show? Evan Bourne was limited to the rescue of a leprechaun. Raw is vice to me; I say that I'm not going to watch it, yet I keep coming back for more. Next week, however, I shall take CM Punk's advice and just say no.

When McMahon announced the Cena/Orton match for Breaking Point, the live audience voiced their obvious displeasure at having this match-up in a PPV again. Vince even acknowledged the crowd reaction. He has to know this is getting stale.

RESPONSE FROM KE: In all fairness, I think that reaction was because the match was taking place at the PPV and not on Monday.

Eck, you're right in the regard that MVP hasn't been given a legit push (kendrick even won a fall in the scramble where MVP was the only one not to). But the real issue with MVP is that they turned him face. He is a much more natural heel and his cheesy antics with his ballin elbow don't connect with older segment of the audience. When he stood toe to toe with Benoit at WM23, the WWE Universe was put on notice that this man is a legitimate star in the making. But they don't even throw him a bone as simple as beating HHH in a match in which HHH can barely walk from the outset. MVP was still hot when he dropped the US belt to Matt Hardy and should have been elevated after that, not hung out to dry- then need to turn him heel and let him do his thing. Get him back on Smackdown where he can start as a face and feud with guys like Jericho and Punk and then turn him heel when he can work with guys like Morrison and Taker- he deserves a break.

With Mayweather’s lackluster appearance setting the tone, Raw just never hit its stride this week.

When was the last time Raw had any kind of stride?

RAW again was GARBAGE. All this "sports entertainment"/comedy crap with DX, Santino, Hornswoggle and Chavo, etc. is horrible and just shows how far wrestling has fallen since it's glory days when it was about...wrestling? Vince McMahon may have taken wrestling to great heights in terms of popularity and marketing, but he has totally DESTROYED it's respect, heritage and legacy. No wonder he refuses to call it wrestling anymore because 90% of what goes on in WWE is not.

I hope Bourne coming out to rescue Hornswoggle is the start of a program between them. Chavo has one of the greatest wrestling minds around, and if a match between them could be like a crusier-weight match from the "glory days".

RESPONSE FROM KE: The thing is, Chavo has been turned into such a joke, it won't mean a thing for Bourne when he beats him -- and God forbid he loses to him.

I've already had enough of this DX reunion, they aren't remotely funny and take up way too much TV time. I sometimes get the feeling that this all HHH doing to keep himself entertained and in the spotlight.

Those circus guys could've won the TLC match at SummerSlam in a matter of seconds...

I was hoping Mayweather would miss the entire show.

I loved Jericho's "And no one can make me leave either" with that smug look on his face, as if nothing can happen to him because he's with a giant.

MVP's promo couldn't have been more annoying, with him using the tasteless "Christina" joke multiple times and constantly screaming at Jericho to shut up. I wish MVP was the one who had shut up.

Jericho and Show denied they were friends a few weeks ago when they paired up, saying they were business partners. Times sure change, eh, with Jericho passionately declaring that Show is his friend (obviously he did it to discard the beauty/beast notion, but still...)

Jericho must owe money to someone in "creative" - he's now jobbed to someone with almost as little talent as JTG.

The "running gag" to embarrass Chavo, as King says, must be getting to the audience... I just hope the "boring" chants are louder next week. At least Hornswoggle got laid out this time, but then Evan Bourne had to come out and save him. That makes him a heel in my book.

In all seriousness, I wish the McMahon/DX segment had gone on longer. If it had been extended a half hour, maybe Santino vs. Miz and Chavo vs. Hornswoggle would have been cut. I'm all for Santino being on TV, but just not in a wrestling match.

The whole segment that included Mayweather, Jerishow, MVP, and Henry was hilarious and well booked. Jerishow offered two hilarious moments. The first was when Jericho said "I'm not going anywhere either". The second was when Big Show carried Jericho up the ramp. In regards to the match, I think it was established by WWE long ago that it's okay for faces to cheat. Remember Wrestlemania IV?

And just to end my rant, here's a few questions that I have: Is Kofi Kingston the U.S. Champion? Does WWE realize that he is a mega babyface? Does WWE realize that he is one of the most innovative wrestlers to watch? If the answer to any of those questions is "yes", THEN WHY HAS HE BEEN LEFT OFF TV TWO NIGHTS IN A ROW?! Instead, we get a match with an uncoordinated oaf who is famous for kissing ugly chicks on live TV, a big fat oily guy, and Hornswoggle.

Meanwhile, on Smackdown, we get a Steel F'n Cage match for the World Heavyweight Title, plus Morrison, Knox, Ziggler, Rey, Truth, Undertaker, the Hart Dynasty, and JR. I would even take Word Up over 90% of Raw.

Did anyone else notice that Orton wasn't the legal man in the ring when Vince pinned him??? Cody Rhodes was still the legal man, but Vince got the pin on Orton.

Thank goodness for Mark Henry. Until his music hit that segment was dying a slow and painful death. Even Jericho couldn't save that turkey. The WWE creative team would be wise to put the WWE belt around Henry's waist. Lord knows he's paid his dues and thensome.

Don't knock the PG rating. Remember, there was a time Big Dick Johnson wore a thong.

Michael Cole had the line of the night. When Legacy beat down DX in the opeing segemnt he said the numbers game was catching up to DX. Nevermind that it was 2 on 2.

I am sure it's a typo but Brett DiBiase is Ted Jr's brother.

RESPONSE FROM KE: Fixed the typo. Thanks

Kev you were being way to nice. RAW was terrible...Period..I really cant take it anymore..Is Smackdown really owned by the same company cause that show is amazing..I'll be at Raw this monday in Detroit..I just pray for a half decent show

If what Jericho said, in the interview you posted with him last week, is true, about reinvigorating the tag titles then putting a make shift team like MVP and Mark Henry together doesn't seem like the way to go. Don't get me wrong I like the concept of Big Show and Jericho as champs but I think they should be going up against more established teams. Cryme Tyme was a good start, but the flip side to that is all the other established teams are heels i.e Legacy, The Hart Dynasty and umm...ahh...That's it! Oh well there's no hope for the tag team division.
One good thing to look forward to is the eventual Jericho\Big Show vs. DX showdown.
By the by I can't help thinking how good the tag team champs would be if it was still Edge in there with Jericho. Now those two vs. DX would have been awesome!

Im sorry but what a waste of Vince McMahon last nite...he always will be a heel..him and Mayweather should have had a tussle over who's running Raw last nite ..with Vince trying to take back control..Vince cant swerve between face-heel like Stone Cold - so it seems weird to have him like a face / this was the worst timing ever to have Mayweather as GM..who's next week Michael Jackson?

After a great ppv Raw was just disappointing. The opening segment was just way too long. With Mayweather running late or whatever I was hoping WWE would improvise and bring out the Godfather. Im sure Vince wouldnt have mind joining the HO train for his birthday.

"The divas have reportedly been reprimanded for showing too much cleavage, but the obscene BDJ is OK?"

This is the same company that pushes a real life anti-drug advocate in CM Punk as a heel, yet pushes a drug addict in Jeff Hardy as a face...

Anyone find it ironic that a few months ago RAW supposedly got the best out of the draft, yet hasn't done anything with anyone they got at all....

Jericho and Show shouldn't even have the tag belts on them, its like the WWE really has no clue what to due with them any more. They should have been put on Cryme Tyme at summer slam.

I too hope that Bourne rescuing Hornswoggle (who really needs to never appear on TV again) starts a program between him and Chavo. But I take your point Kev that he has little or no credibility after Vicky and Hornswoggle ruined him. Do the wrestlers have any say in how they are used? I just wonder if they did, why would you agree to be ritualistically humiliated like Chavo and Santino have been? Surely they can never go on to anything above midcard status with that in their history?

Did you catch Vince's comment about the Cirque du Soleil guys? Unless I'm hearing things, he said that their masks were "gay." Now how is THAT family entertainment? How is that even entertainment?

It's an expression we really could do without, you're right.

The way Jericho and Miz kept on calling each other gay in their Twitter feud didn't sit well with me either. (Jericho being worse about it; the thing got started when the Miz tweeted that he was awesome because he was getting so much heat and Jericho told him he was gay.) Neither did Cryme Tyme's insinuation a while back that the Hart Dynasty were a couple as if that's a horrible insult in this day and age.

I don't know if any of those guys would consider themselves homophobic, but here's the thing: they're all perpetuating the idea that being gay is something to be ashamed of, to be ridiculed. That's no good.

I kind of thought they were setting up the Vince turn again too. I was glad they didn't though. I still can't decide if I should be glad or disgusted that my prayers of "don't let it be Mae Young, don't let it be Mae Young."

I like the potential in the tag title situation. I'm sure it's not done purposefully since there are only 3 tag teams now, but it seems to be a lot of white guys fighting black guys lately.

I also think Chavo vs Bourne will be good if Chavo is allowed to really work to his potential again.

I know he gets a pop, but I'm so over Hornswaggle. He's dead weight to whoever they pair him with to try and keep getting him over.

Raw was sorta bad, odd or dumb, can't decide which.

however, Santino just shines every week. His timing is great and fans poped at every move he made. Check it out again. His is doing a great job whenever he shows up. Vinny must be pleased with him.

Conerning MVP... the reason why he nailed his promo so well and seemed so natural on Monday's Raw is because any black man on this blog knows that you cannot look bad in front of other "brothas". With Flyod and his crew around, MVP was "real" and motitivated. I'm sure some people could tell a difference in him last night.

I cant say Raw was bad this week, because I think the elements were there for a good show. The problem with the opening was that I think DX is very limited because of the rating. A few years ago, because Shawn and Triple H can improv with the best of them, that probably wouldve been a very entertaining segment.
But because they cant do what they used to be able to and it ran way too long, it wasnt that great.

Its funny how although the program is stale, no more than 5 minutes into the show a Cena-Orton rematch was announced.

I must say seeing MVP and Mark Henry team together should be exciting, and hopefully helpful to MVP getting the push he deserves. Performing with Jericho and Show should make a difference, but who knows.

It seems now tag teams are ruling the Raw roster now. Since when did that last happen, in the mid 80s????

MAYWEATHER IS GREAT SEPT 19 MAYWEATHER VS MARQUEZ IS A MUST SEE

Was it just me or did MVP come off kinda Rock-ish?

The whole DX/WCW/noise thing? Could it have been a shot at WCW..since they were known for having taped boos, cheers, and noise added to their usually audience-quiet shows? Just a thought.

I'm starting to think this reunion of DX kind of marks the beginning of the transition to a more PG-13 era in WWE.
There's defiantly been a trend towards that way over the last couple of weeks.

You think this will continue?

mayweather showed up at the arena about an hour and a half before the show started. I was there trying to get autographs where the wrestlers enter the building

RESPONSE FROM KE: I'm not doubting what you say is true, but it really doesn't make any sense why WWE would keep him off until the second hour if he was there the whole time. The only thing I can think of is that they wanted to keep teasing he was there to keep people watching.

HHH: Hey Vince, are you ready?
Vince: I'm getting busy
HHH: Oh, well that gives me more time to get busy with your daughter!!!!

Genius

Since I can't get a decent live streaming for either raw,ecw or sd here in Portugal, I'm now only downloadin' PPV and SD. Raw is turning into a variety crapy show, and my time is tu valuable to be wasted in such disappointing segments/matches. Anyway I agree with your view that a win over Chavo wouldn't do Bourne much good, but then again if they are allowed to do a solid feud, with solid matches, they'll get over. Just look at Ziggler. I don't find is personna inovative. Is talking isn't that good either. But just look at that match at SS with Rey. How many heels get supported in WWE these days? besides Ziggler, I only seem Randy Orton. And that, is surely the best wrestler/performer in a long time. Sometimes, intensity in the ring is more than enough to make up for the lack of skills on the mic.
I just want to add two things: MVP/Henry could be a good team to put against JeriShow since MVP seems out of the title picture anyway and is matches with Sagwer weren't as good as expected (and not as long as one would like obvisouly) and Henry doens't seem to be taken seriously enough to be a World Title contender. The idea of DX vs Jerishow in a not so distant future can be intersting too...

Rob - not only was Eddie a cheating babyface, uber-mega-permanent face Cena also used brass knuckles to win at WM20.

But we're not supposed to remember any of that.

Kevin's Blog Moment Of The Week: Instead, Big Dick Johnson popped out (I can’t believe I just wrote that). Side Note: I was about to go with Kev's torturing of Mayweather since it was such a fiasco, but the above comment was even able to outshine that.

You know, on the front of things, Raw at least SEEMS more exciting than SD but that couldn't be further from the case. RAW is merely deceptive and only seems more exciting because of the makeup of the show and how it's put together: the use of flashier adornments, livelier and much more amplified music, larger and more enthusiastic audiences, being live, etc. If not any of that, there's at least something that creates a livelier overall atmostphere on RAW, giving the viewer the mistaken impression that the the night is going to be exciting and unpredictable. I just love the technique in which the arena is completely darkened before all the lights are brought up to begin a segment. Let's be honest; SD is atrocious in this area and thus relies completely on it's wrestlers with no help from the show's makeup whatsoever. The makeup of SD gives the expectations of a Sunday Night Heat. This may strike one as a trivial aspect but it has to be why we all keep coming back to watch RAW, because it sure as hell ain't because of the action.

In addition to the pointless, overlong birthday party opening segment (err o........k) with the subtly homophobic comment from McMahon (that was pretty juvenile of McMahon), the problem with last Monday's RAW is the fact that there were barely any good matches. You look at the show as a whole and you realize there were only two matches of interest; that being the Mark Henry/MVP vs. Jerishow bout (to user Rob The Barber, true that and MVP owned that segment) and of course the main event. Other than that, you have The Miz vs. Santino, the Divas bout, and as someone else said the Word Up segment with Hornswaggle/Chavo. Btw, Today's Word of the week; crap! Crap: to place Horneswoggle and Chavo in the ring on a weekly basis in the hopes that it will make entertainment. Crap!

User Anonymous, you say you're going to be at this Monday's RAW. For the love of God, keep the live audience from giving Horneswoggle a pop because the live audience is to blame.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I distinctly heard Michael Cole say that Kofi Kingston would be in action at one point during the show on Monday night. I've always been of the minority that admires Cole on commentary (an opinion that has landed me into many a heated debates) but that was a flagrant error because that had me in hopes of seeing Kofi get down like last week. Also, so much for a Kofi Kingston/Carlito rematch after they made Carlito look in that promo. That made any chances at "bad to the bone" gimmick null and void even though HBK was funny.

I just ask everyone to focus there criticism on the right individual in DX. HBK was doing just fine in singles competition before his leave and did not need to turn to DX; HHH on the other hand who has been receiving an enormous amount of heat for his inability to push athletes as of late, needed to turn to DX. As we all know even as seen by last Monday's main event, HBK has no qualms with pushing younger talent and he's the funny half of DX in my opinion.

Couldn't agree with you more, Mayweather was extremely ineffective this Raw as guest host. He could have just as easily cut a promo with Big Show backstage and then had Cole & Lawler say he'd be in a fight on September 19th or whenever it is. Go Marquez!

Was really hoping Mark Henry would bear hug Mayweather til all his bling flew off.

Great to see the way Miz is slowly getting his push. He definitely can cut some good promos, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him capture the US Title.

Next week: Chavo vs. Hornswoggle & Macaulay Culkin in a 2-on-1 Handicap Home Alone match. Week after that, Hornswoggle vs. Chavo in a dunk tank match, followed by Hornswoggle vs. Chavo "Loser must dress like a clown" match. Sorry Chavo, you used to get to wrestle.

Was also hoping we'd get a "No DX" main event, not a "No DQ". What main event with Orton isn't a No DQ these days? His last few PPV matches have all had shenanigans with outside interferences, yet the matches continued without the ref calling for the bell. Blame DX on Batista's injury, if he were around we'd probably see Michaels and HHH in singles action.

Post a comment

All comments must be approved by the blog author. Please do not resubmit comments if they do not immediately appear. You are not required to use your full name when posting, but you should use a real e-mail address. Comments may be republished in print, but we will not publish your e-mail address. Our full Terms of Service are available here.

Please enter the letter "x" in the field below:
About Kevin Eck
The Baltimore Sun's Kevin Eck blogs about professional wrestling. Listen to Eck Wednesdays at 3 p.m. on WNST 1570 AM.
E-mail Kevin.
-- ADVERTISEMENT --

Most Recent Comments
Blog updates
Recent updates to baltimoresun.com sports blogs  Subscribe to this feed
Stay connected