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June 10, 2009

Looking at the WWE title situation

It was announced during ECW Tuesday night that Batista has been stripped of the WWE title due to his torn biceps, and that the vacant title will be up for grabs during a fatal four-way match between Randy Orton, Triple H, John Cena and The Big Show during the three-hour edition of Raw on Monday.

It makes sense from a story line standpoint that the four biggest stars on Raw would be in the title match (although you could argue that Big Show just suffered losses on the past two pay-per-views and Triple H hasn’t been around for two months), but it’s disappointing that there are no fresh faces in the main event mix.

Had Mr. Kennedy not been abruptly released late last month, he would have been the most logical choice to get a spot in the match. The next-best candidates are Kofi Kingston and MVP. Unfortunately, WWE just hasn’t done a good enough job of getting Kingston, MVP or anyone else over as guys who should be taken seriously as world title contenders.

As far as the title match on Raw Monday, I think the title is going back to Orton. Big Show is a long shot, the timing doesn’t feel right for Cena, and another reign by Triple H would be stale – unless he were to turn heel.

Posted by Kevin Eck at 3:43 PM | | Comments (33)
        

Comments

I just dont get why they gave it to batista in the first place... wouldnt it have made sense to have orton as the major heel beat him up so bad in the cage match that he broke his arm and put him out.. I know he put him out last time but giving batista the title for a couple of days is just pointless.
MVP said he wanted in on the title hunt so is completely ignored and a spot is given to big show who cant beat john cena in any way it seems
raw = frustrating

I agree that another triple h title run from HHH would be boring, he does not need it no one wants to see it, big show should be in it, after all what other strong heels are on Raw right now? Triple H should have been replaced by MVP, Orton as number one heel and due to his rematch clause is obvious and Cena being the number 1 face was also going to be in there no matter what. Kingston has the us title and thus would not have been viable to be in the title hunt as they are not likely to put 2 titles on him.

Kind of like on smackdown when the 4 way between Kane, Mysterio, Hardy and Jericho for the shot at the world championship, once it was down to Mysterio (then Ic champ and Hardy, you knew Hardy was taking it, that match should have made it Jericho and Hardy at the last before Hardy took the win, no one would believe Mysterio as Ic champ would be given a world title shot as well.

Also, ECW is starting to get interesting, surprised you did not mention it today, what with Swagger teaming with Christian, Christian showing a couple of heel traits but also saying it was due to Dreamer ddting him the week before.

Ecw could get very interesting if they turned Swagger face and put him against Kozlov, they could possibly have some very interesting matches, the crowd seemed to be into Kozlovs match this week and he had at least one group in the crowd cheering loudly for him and clapping his victory, he is due to be put up against some real opposition, as much as i like to watch him seeing match after match of him squashing no name talent is getting boring, that would leave Dreamer and Christian to fight with the Hart dynasty which could provide some interesting matches, maybe with the title getting involved.

Just an FYI, the Pittsburgh Penguins have been using Mr. Kennedy Footage when Tyler Kennedy scores.

(He scored last night)

Kev, ur probably right and orton will get the title back. Lets see The Miz comes out and distracts Big Show and Cena, while Legacy distracts HHH and Orton pins one of the 3. Then Orton can start another feud with HHH which would turn into a boring match like they had at mania. I agree with serena raw= frustrating

For the life of me I just dont understand whats going on with the WWE. The title will probably go back to Trips or Cena. If so Im done with the WWE. This is why no company should own everything. Vince you have ruined wrestling for alot of people. Its definetly time for some major changes.

For some reason it doesn't feel to me like anyone of them will win it... I still think the title will be held up at the end of the night and we'll have some sort of tournament.

Kevin..What about a lack of push for John Morrison who seems to have as much talent as MVP or Kingston?
It seems the push went to Miz, and not Morrison, why I am clueless over.

MVP drops the title to Kofi, then is in a match against Matt Hardy who has spun his wheels after the brother versus brother angle.

Shelton Benjamin hasn't done anything since 200? except take high spots in the Money in the Bank matches????

Again left with only 3 weeks programming between ppv's I am inclined to think it will be HHH.

There's gotta be a 5th guy. Having these 4 participants is stale and not an incentive to watch. There HAS to be a surprise, because I'm not down with another HHH reign.

Why do you think they would have had MVP make his speech about being involved in the WWE Title match next week, if he wasn't actually going to be involved? That just makes him look stupid. That line had to be scripted right, so what is the thinking? I don't get it.

RESPONSE FROM KE: When he said it, I thought it meant he would be involved. Who knows? Maybe he was going to be and someone changed their mind.

Yeah I really wish MVP was in this match. I don't know why it is the same old guys constantly. I actually like Cena, but like him better as a contender than a champ.

Give someone else a shot WWE.

"and that the vacant title will be up for grabs during a fatal four-way match between Randy Orton, Triple H, John Cena and The Big Show during the three-hour edition of Raw on Monday."

Booooriinnnggg.

I agree that it is very frustrating. It is very disappointing how the belts have been devalued over the past year. However, we're talking quite a while until the match happens. I could easily see someone still getting thrown into a mix between now and when the actual match takes place. Who knows - perhaps they may still pull the trigger on MVP, but do it as a complete swerve.

Or perhaps they can do the ultimate swerve, and put it on Matt Hardy or Regal... Okay, I can dream, can't I?

Methinks MVP will find his way into the match.

I think The Miz will attack the Big Show or Cena with something bigger than a chair and render one of them unable to compete. Enter MVP.

Or Orton and Legacy will regain their heat by beating down Triple H rendering him unable to compete. Enter MVP.

Of course, I'm probably giving the WWE Creative Team too much credit my half but one can never know.

Tick-tock. Tick-tock.

Well, now that the Triple H show can resume normal transmissions, the world is well again. They seem to have been so taken in by the need to keep the boss's son in law happy, that the writers forget that other talented wrestlers do exist. As you have said elsewhere, Orton and Legacy have been effectively castrated, all in the name of pandering to the McMahon and H egos. I haven't seen such a potentially great heel faction in a long time, and Orton is just brilliant.

It seems to have been forgotten that the fans and PPV's pay the bills, and if this goes on long enough people WILL start to be more choosy about buying PPV's. I've always liked MVP, he has surely deserved better treatament than has happened so far. He'd do a great job with the title given half a chance and a decent push. Great ad lib promos, and showed what he can do when given the chance in his work with Chris Benoit.

Makes you wonder if MVP will get moved in next year's draft over to ECW so he can win a "major title"....WWE certainly doesn't seem to want the WWE title going outside of its group of 8 mega-stars.

HHH needs to turn heel,Cm Punk needs to turn heel, and John cena needs to...
ah cena sucks and should never become champion again. If cena wants my respect he needs to go heel too. But yeah HHH is way better heel than Face.
Triple H and Cena should fight again cause its the best rivalry that happened during the last 4 years.

It would appear likely that the title is assured of going back to Orton or HHH, as the cards for the upcoming Australian tour rotate HHH, Orton and Batista (who obviously now wont be making the trip) through various title matches.

I just don't understand what WWE has been trying to accomplish during this past week regarding the WWE title. Knowing Batista is injured and giving him the title was a great start. Having MVP cut a promo wanting a title shot then dominating Matt Hardy at the time seemed like a great idea. But to announce this match just doesn't excite me at all. I highly doubt Cena, Big Show, or Triple H will win based on timing for all of them. So if Orton isn't WWE champ by 10:05 central time next monday, Ill be shocked.
I can only hope that MVP is involved in some way. But I've been disappointed before.


I see MVP getting hacked off that he's not in the match and causing someone to lose. Hopefully HHH or Cena so then MVP can turn heel. RAW needs another heel ...BAD. He could cut a promo like "I tried pandering to you people hoping that would get me ahead , hell I even took that PIG Sherri Shepard to the prom, hoping that might endure me to you idiots, and what did it get me NOTHIN'!! So I'm back to looking out for #1!! ME!! Because I am better than you!!! That will make people react to that silly "Ballin' Elbow" of his. Plus, I program vs. either HHH or Cena will help elevate him to where he need's to be.

WWE is so moronic. There was zero logical reason to put the belt on Batista, when the ENTIRE WORLD already knew he was hurt.

That 4 way is going to suck. Cena and Show have no chemistry together and Orton and HHH have no chemistry together. Sticking all 4 of them together will be horrific.

On the surface, it looks like a complete waste of what could've been a good (not great) storyline. Then again, that's what WWE Creative team has been doing for quite some time now. It was a great start for legacy but they have got beat down too many times for anyone to take them seriously. They don't inspire the feeling which a heel DX or Evolution or McMahon Helmsley regime could. Why? Because all these stables were first provided a platform to get strong and look like a threat. The next best thing for making legacy come across as a serious threat is to add another formidable member and allow him to raise some hell.

I too agree with Serena; raw = frustrating

I don't think any of those four wrestler are going to win the belt next monday. If anyone deserved a reign at the title it's Randy Orton. Putting the belt on Cena, HHH and Big Show wouldn't make sense at all. I won't be surprise if MVP walks out next monday as WWE Champ.

It's real shame that Kennedy had been released because if he is still around I'll put my money on him to win the belt.

Batista last two title reign didn't last more than a week, at least Edge's title reign lasted a month.

Nothing about that 4-way seems appealing on paper. I feel like Orton will win and suddenly Legacy will be all champions, which is supposed to erase the fact that they get beat up by everyone, every week I guess?

The Batista win is VKM outsmarting himself I think. This is the 2nd time in just a few months there's been a "swerve" outcome for those that knew better. It's like watching Tin Cup and he goes for the green in two because he's so stubborn. Meanwhile the crowd is just watching in horror as he ruins everything.

As much as I want someone like MVP to make it, look at CM Punk last year. He was booked like a chump champ and somehow came out looking weaker by the time his run was over. Now that the internet wants MVP, I could see him getting the same treatment at some point right before putting the belt back in the usual rotation. Blah.

If they are putting 4 guys in one match, are there enough wrestlers left on the three rosters to fill out a three hour show? I fear we will be in for lots of filler.

I'm sure Vince and Trips blame the low ratings recently on Orton so I think HHH will get the title back. It's ridiculous.

Could the "Ultimate Opportunist" strike this Monday Night?

Flinging MVP into the title picture now will be like how they shot Punk into the picture awhile back - it will feel forced and his championship will be overlooked in booking by an Orton-HHH feud and whatever John Cena is up to. MVP just needs better screen time for fans to take him seriously. For those of us who didn't watch Smackdown, what have we seen him do on Raw? Pop out to interrupt a promo, fight in an 10 man tag, and lose the US belt? Yeah, let's put the WWE title on him...

I decided I am only going to watch SD. I am finished with RAW unless they do something with Carlito. I think Carlito should be pushed before MVP. I think he's a better star who never went on a losing streak. Carlito is just caught up in tag action right now. I think putting Carlito in the main event spot would work if they changed up his music and anewed his gimmick slightly to a more badder version of himself. He needs to be slightly badder and nastier in gimmick to deal with Orton and Legacy. I think they really need to get rid of that music and bring back his apple-spitting stuff. Also think this could work because he has an ally--that being his brother to help him deal with the Legacy. It's still uneven but at least he won't be going alone like MVP would. I think they could definitely do something with Carlito. Sorry! Maybe people agree with this, but I just don't think MVP is ready for main event status yet. I mean, wasn't this guy on a losing streak not too long ago

Here's another scenario which sees MVP as new WWE Champion next Monday.

Orton beats Cena, Triple H and Big Show in the Fatal Four Way regaining the belt. Just as Orton and Legacy are celebrating, Flair's music hits. The Nature Boy reveals that he is RAW GM. In his first act as RAW GM, Orton is going to make his first title defense right then and there against MVP. At the end of the night MVP's hand is raised as WWE Champion.

why don't all of you stop complaining about weither john cena or triple h win the title because you already know that they are

Aaron Goldstein,
I like that.... I mean I don't like that because the belt will change hands twice in one night again, but WWE obviously dosen't care about the value of titles anymore so why should we. But that is a cool scenario!

I think the majority of people commenting are right, MVP should get the strap. it'll open up the WWE for superstars who arent as popular to have a shot at greatness! I think Big Show will come out to his music first. when hes in the ring, Then Ortons music pops, Orton comes to the ring. Then Cenas music pops, Cena comes to ringside and waits for HHH. HHH's music hits and HHH comes out to join Cena. when they get in the ring, the match starts and they start fighting with the Big Show and Orton,when Cena and Big Show are outside the ring the Miz comes out from under the ring with a chair and levels Big Show with 2 chair shots to Shows head, Cena then chases Miz out the arena. while this is going on HHH and orton are fighting in the ring. The new GM will come out and replace Big Show with a new superstar.. as Orton and HHH start brawling in the ring, MVP's music hits, and he comes out to an ovation from the fans. MVP and HHH pummels Orton together. HHH tosses Orton out the ring, and HHH turns and locks eyes with MVP. the crowd goes nuts; half chanting HHH and half chanting MVP. MVP and HHH start exchanging punches, and after a miss punch from MVP, HHH hits the spinebuster on MVP. Orton slides in the ring, tries the rko on HHH, HHH counters it by pushing Orton into the ring post and Orton slumps into the corner. Cena makes his way back to ringside after losing the Miz backstage, and legacy comes out behind him and start attacking Cena. HHH grabs a shaken MVP and tries the pedigree, MVP flips him out the ring and runs in and kicks in Ortons face (in the ring corner)with his leg finisher. He quickly grabs Orton and finishes Orton with the playmaker, right when MVP pins Orton, Cena tries to make it back to the ring but rhodes and dibiase grab him, not in time, 1-2-3! MVP wins the WWE title! MVP's music hits, and Cena goes beserk! Cena demolishes the new champ and a new rivalry is born! thats how the WWE should handle it! Ballin! for 2009! the pay per view should be a six man elimination for the belt.

i would love for flair to be the new GM of Raw , and i love any scenario that MVP win the belt! Ballin!

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