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February 16, 2009

No Way Out thoughts

There is a fine line in wrestling between an “Oh my God, I never saw that coming!” moment and an “Oh, God, that doesn’t make any sense” moment.

I was experiencing the latter at the end of last night’s No Way Out pay-per-view, as Edge, one of Smackdown’s top stars, entered and won the Raw elimination chamber match to become world heavyweight champion.

Obviously, WWE is trying to shake things up and create a buzz, but when a swerve defies logic – as this one seemingly does – it can be counterproductive. I’ll withhold final judgment until I see what happens tonight on Raw.

Here’s the way things appear for now: With Triple H having won the WWE title in the Smackdown elimination chamber, that means Smackdown now has two world champions and Raw has none.

I’m not sure what these world titles are even supposed to represent anymore. And what is the point of having drafts and separate brands when the talent basically can appear on any show whenever they want?

I also think WWE needs to slow down a little. I know the days of guys holding titles for five years at a time are gone (as they should be in this era), but WWE’s two world titles are changing hands at a ridiculous rate. The WWE title has now changed on four consecutive pay-per-views, and there have been five world heavyweight title switches since September.

Overall, this pay-per-view was a mixed bag for me. Here is a match-by-match look at the show:

Triple H won the WWE title in the elimination chamber: This was by far the best match of the night, even with an underwhelming performance by Vladimir Kozlov. I couldn’t believe WWE opened with what should have been the main event, but it made sense later when Edge crashed the Raw elimination chamber match. The first surprise of the show occurred just three minutes into the match when Jeff Hardy eliminated Edge win an inside cradle. The look of shock on Edge’s face was tremendous. It eventually came down to Triple H and The Undertaker. The two superstars had an exciting back-and-forth battle over the final eight minutes, including a fantastic near fall when Undertaker hit a Tombstone Piledriver and Triple H got his foot on the rope a fraction of a second before the referee hit the mat a third time. After Undertaker kicked out of a pin attempt after receiving a Pedigree, he went for the Last Ride, but Triple H slipped out and hit another Pedigree for the win. That makes Triple H a 13-time world champion, but who’s counting (besides Triple H)?

Edge won the world heavyweight title in the elimination chamber: The main reason I was looking forward to this one was to see how Kofi Kingston would fare in the biggest match of his career. I knew he wasn’t going to win the title, but I thought there was a good chance that he would come out of it a bigger star. So much for that. Kingston never even got in the match, as Edge suddenly appeared and knocked him out with a chair before he could enter the ring. Edge then took Kingston’s spot in the chamber. Why was this allowed? Hopefully, we’ll find out tonight. Perhaps Raw general manager Stephanie McMahon leaving the show early to accompany her brother to the hospital has something to do with it. Edge getting in the match was a shocker, but the way it went down made it obvious from the start that he would end up winning. When John Cena was the third man eliminated, any remaining doubt was erased (he was pinned by Edge after taking Chris Jericho’s Codebreaker, Rey Mysterio’s 619 and Edge’s spear). So while all those near falls in the final minutes between Edge and Mysterio were well-executed, there was little drama because I knew there was no way that Mysterio was winning the title.

Randy Orton defeated Shane McMahon in a No Holds Barred match: Both men put forth a lot of effort, but I didn’t care at all for how the match was laid out. McMahon got in way too much offense and came off looking tougher than most of the roster. Orton bled hard-way after McMahon clobbered him in the head with a TV monitor. With Orton getting killed out there, Ted DiBiase Jr. and Cody Rhodes came out to attack McMahon, but he single-handedly took them both out. You can’t make this stuff up. Eventually, Orton gained the upper hand, but he just couldn’t put the never-say-die Shane O’Mac away. McMahon even kicked out after being suplexed off the top rope through a table. Amazingly, McMahon went back on the offensive after that. He grabbed a chair and used it to batter Orton, who was begging for mercy. As McMahon prepared to finish off Orton with a punt to the head, Orton hit an RKO out of nowhere for the win. It was announced later that McMahon had been taken to the hospital, but Orton should have won the match much more decisively.

Shawn Michaels defeated JBL in an All or Nothing match: For a hot angle that had been built up for months and featured some great promos, this was anti-climactic. The match told a good story, but it was below the standards of a Shawn Michaels pay-per-view match. JBL was on offense most of the way, but Michaels got fired up and rallied for the win after his wife, Rebecca, who was seated at ringside, slapped JBL for taunting her.

ECW champion Jack Swagger defeated Finlay: This wasn’t as good as their two TV matches. The crowd was dead (in part because it followed the intense Smackdown chamber and Orton-McMahon matches) and there appeared to be some miscommunication between Swagger and Finlay. The story here was that Hornswoggle kept inadvertently getting in the way, which ultimately cost Finlay the match.

Posted by Kevin Eck at 6:18 AM | | Comments (54)
        

Comments

Sorry Kev, but I have to disagree with you, I thought the Raw elimination chamber was the highlight, yes it was predictable once Edge had entered he would win, but was a huge shocker to see him enter in the 1st place. Chris Jericho and Rey put in great performances, shame Kane got eliminated 1st though. I agree it doesnt make sense now but Im sure it will unravel, I think if Randy Orton is going to face Triple H there will be another coss brand match for Edge, probaly against Cena, fingers crossed for a HBK vs Edge match at wrestlemania though! wow that wold be great!

It was a huge shoker that Edge was eliminated so quickly, I though he maybe injured or something, its good they are still building Jeff up though, he put in a good performance, shame Matt ddint interfere. Undertaker and Triple H highlighted the Smackdown Elimination chamber, I see a forshadowing of a future feud there...BIg show put in a solid performance but Kozlov was dissapointing

Man was Orton busted open the hard way or what!? Ouch. IT made no sense Shane taking out legacy by himself or how much offense he got in on Orton, and if shane was injured why didnt we see it? Why did it have to be announced to us? I was also dissapointed there was no huge spot such as Baclash 2001, that would have allowed for a better storyline injury...Orton played his role well though, good solid performance

HBK vs JBL was pretty boring for most of it, and anti climatic, was good to see Shawns wife get involved, added to the storylin I feel. Hopefuly this will free HBK up for a feud with Edge, fingers crossed!

The ECW matc was predictable, with a dead audience, but was watchable, but we all know Swagger has a feud waiting for him with Christian

I wish we had seen Christian and Matt hardy to some extent, Matt I felt for sure would interfere to make Jeff lose, and i though Christian would be guest cominatater or something.

Shame there was no R Truth, Shelton Benjamin or MVP either....even a R Truth vs Brian Kendrick match would have been good, not a good idea opening with a main event calibure match, the rest is just an anti climax really

The diva match should nothave been a dark match either, I wanted Santino there! Santino would have been more entertaining in the elimination chamber than Knox or Kozlov!

I agree with you kev that sometimes wwe creative baffle me, in the words of Santino, WWE Creative "you stupid"

this sets up HHH return to raw to feud with Orton surely at WM, He comes over to protect stephanie Mc and be revealed as her husband this leads him to be on raw and edge staying on Smackdown

While the story of Edge being able to remain in the Raw Elimination Chamber match is still left to question, I think the PPV was one of the better ones the WWE has put on lately, overall.

I guess a few things could happen regarding the belts; Edge is going to Raw which could mean that HHH does indeed get involved in the Orton/McMahon angle and thus Orton might end up on Smackdown to face him at Wrestlemania. Edge could stay on Smackdown, with Cena possibly going to Smackdown in pursuit of his re-match, with the Orton/HHH angle still taking place but with HHH ending up back on Smackdown. The other thing that could happen would be Edge having a very brief reign as champ (maybe 1 day) with Cena getting his re-match on Raw and winning it back.

Kevin, do you if Tomko is still with the WWE? If so, I wonder if maybe Edge could use him as a bodyguard. I think the timing is becoming right for Edge to part ways with Vickie.

Lastly, while I agree with you that once it got down to Edge and Mysterio for the belt, the odds of Edge walking out with the belt greatly increased, it was still a darn good match. That's the best I've seen Mysterio perform since he returned and went to the Raw roster. Him and Edge have good chemistry in the ring.

Here's a Wrestlemania card that explains everything stupid that happened last night. The critical thing is that it requires the Stephanie/ HHH relationship to be acknowledged.

HHH vs. Orton for WWE Championship (haha, there's one McMahon left)

Edge vs. Michaels for WHC (Michaels gets his final reign)

Taker vs. Kozlov (Taker pinned Kozlov in chamber, can he do it 1-on-1?)

Jericho vs. Randy "the Ram" Robinson w/Ric Flair (after the academy's voting finishes)

Matt vs. Jeff Hardy (Please, dear god, don't screw this feud up any more than it already is)

Money in the bank: Kofi, Bourne, Kennedy, MVP, Shelton, R-Truth

Divas something or other.

Very well summarised. At the end of the show I certainly felt that it was worth the money (although we didn't have to pay for it in the UK, I would have had it been on PPV). 2 title changes, 2 great Elimination Chambers, a big shock with Edge and a decent Orton-McMahon mach.

But at the end of the show I wasn't happy for the same reasons you pointed out. It makes no sense! They could have at least had Vickie and Steph interact to explain Edge taking Kofi's spot. And Randy should have beat the absolute crap out of Shane. IMO, the lay-out of the match should have followed something similar to HHH vs. Vince McMahon at Armageddon 1999. Vince put up a decent fight but was simply no match for a top wrestler and got his ass whooped. That should have happened here.

After the PPV, I was turning the Wrestlemania set-up over in my head, and the only thing I can figure is that they ended the JBL-Shawn Michaels deal before Wrestlemania because Shawn will somehow be part of the Jericho/Rourke/Flair deal. But that doesn't make much sense either, considering the Jericho/Michaels programs was played out on several PPV's last year. Maybe Michaels/Austin? And I'm at a complete lack as to how they'll tie Cena back into the Wrestlemania main-event picture.
Another thing: Matt Hardy had no hand whatsoever in Jeff losing in the Elimination Chamber. Based on that and the lack of real confrontation on SD, I think the brotherly feud won't be hot enough by Wrestlemania, and that they'll both participate in the ladder match.

Hey Kevin,

I think Edge winning that title just set up two main events for Wrestlemania... Triple H vs. Randy Orton and John Cena vs. Edge. I guess you could call it rivalries renewed.lol

Glad I didn't spend any money for this...

Kind of off topic, but has anyone had any trouble ordering WWE PPV's in HD? For some reason, it hasn't been available for me in months.

Kev:

Did you have any difficulty getting the feed? Comcast customers in Baltimore, Howard, and Harford were greeted at 7:55pm without the signal to purchase. The Comcast telephone recording acknowledged the difficulty and advised they were working on it. By the time the availability came up, I had decided I didn't want to come in late (especially at $39.95) so we skipped the PPV. Had no idea the Smackdown chamber match was 1st, so had we joined in late and missed it, my Monday would have been wasted on the phone with Comcast.

RESPONSE FROM KEVINE ECK: I have a friend in Baltimore County who had problems with the signal. He ended up getting it about 15 mins. into the opener. He said that Comcast took it off his bill so he got to see it for free (and with the replay, he didn't miss anything). I live in Harford County and had no problems.

While watching it last night, I was entertained and genuinely shocked at times. Thats all I can ask for at this point. How about a unification four way, with Cena, HHH, Edge, and Randy Orton at WM25. Shades of Wrestlemania 6.

It was a throw away line you used but it's important for fans: Triple H is always counting his belts and that changes what we watch.

Let’s be honest; very few in the ‘smart’ community thinks of Triple H as an all-time great. At least, and critically important, not in the same way that we think of Ric Flair, Harley Race, Lou Thesz or even Hulk Hogan as all-time greats. He has not dominated or altered wrestling in the same way that those guys have and if he sets a record (17 title reigns) or breaches a mark (some random WWE stat), that will be great, but it won’t really change the perception of fans that he was a solid working second tier guy who made it to the top by virtue of his own efforts and great timing but then was fabulously protected after that.

Jeff Jarrett is probably the guy with whom Triple H will be most consistently be compared. These guys are both title hogs who kept themselves at the center of the company more than was warranted. You have someone who looks steroid built who becomes the corporate prince via marriage vs. a fairly small guy who creates and owns a makeshift company. Who wins the comparison? Nobody; they’re both diminished by the circumstances that make them look more greedy than great.

Thanks Kevin and keep up the great work!

I actually enjoyed the pay per view, aside from the plot holes and the hot potato title changes it was as exciting a PPV as I can remember in recent times, outside of Wrestlemania.The last time was probably No Mercy 2007 when HHH and Orton traded titles after Cena got injured.

It's also made possible WM scenarios a little more exciting as I reckon we're going for Orton v HHH and Edge v Cena or HBK, or both!

I think HBK and JBL's angle ended to let HBK in to the title picture for WM, this is possibly another change as a result of Batista's injury.

Either way, with WM being in Texas it would be fitting for the spotlight to be on guys like Michaels, Undertaker and Austin on the night, the crowd will be hotter for them than anyone else. Michaels in particular deserves a title win on the big stage for his work this past year. 6 1/2 years since his last world title, but probably the most consistent main eventer in that time...it's overdue! Thoughts?

yeh the PPV was a mixed bag for me as well. One way they could get the title back at Raw is if Randy Orton challenges Triple H for the WWE title at WM 25 (most logical way to get a world title back at Raw) and makes the most sense since the two sort of have unfinished business. Send feedback KEv and give me your solution

I thought it was a good show, but I can definately see where too many "swerves" with no meaning could hurt the product. I was watching the show at a blast place or whatever they call it, and couldn't hear any announcing. Did anybody say anything about Christian on ECW?

I believe and hope Edge goes to RAW tonight and HHH stays on WM, that way HHH vs Taker at WM with the title and the win streak on the line and maybe taker loses and retires (only a thought).As for Edge he needs to get away from Vicky that storyline is worse than finlays. Speaking on Finlay did u notice he didnt have the matching colors of Hornswaggle, he was back to the all green shoes and old singlet, I believe Finlay will turn tommorrow nite after losing by hornswaggle (I hope) the rest of NWO was predictable.

I would unify the titles at Wrestlemania. The World title loses its value when there are 2 floating around. Also, I'd lose the spinning Cena belt - it's ridiculous. Id' go back to the old school WWF belt. And I can't really understand why there are 2 tag titles - the WWE doesn't really have the tag team depth to support 1 title. But that's just my opinion.

With Edge dropping one belt and picking up another where does that leave his "rematch clause". If Edge can get past Cena and his rematch in a 1 on 1 match (hopefully TLC) could we see Edge cashing in his and face Triple H and again have an Undisputed Champion?
I'm just saying...

After the Royal Rumble, Rany Orton was poised to be one of the top WWE heels of the past decade.

However, the McMahons decided to insert themselves in the storyline and have thus completely neutered Randy.

I hated the show. The only match that I even sort of enjoyed was the Raw EC, and that was a) because I am a huge Edge mark, b) because I hate John Cena, and c) because the Jericho-Mysterio-Edge finishing minutes were really good.

The only way that this could be saved is if Triple H goes to Raw and faces Orton and Kofi goes to Smackdown and gets elevated somehow.

It was bad enough when the WWE was inserting Chris Jericho and Edge into title matches last minute in previous months, but at least they had the GMs making those decisions, no matter how flimsy the logic of their decisions was. Now, Edge just decides for himself that he wants to be in both title matches, and everyone's just fine with it? I don't care what explanation they give on RAW tonight, anything short of vacating the title will make no logical sense. The WWE seems so intent on out-thinking the internet marks with their twists, that they no longer bother to try to have them make sense.
And I was furious with how poorly the Orton/ Shane match was booked. To think, two months ago, Orton was the hottest wrestler in the business. But the way last night's match was booked, you'd think they were trying to elevate Shane. Orton might've gotten the win, but it was booked as though he was lucky to escape with the victory. Having Shane continue to kick out of punishing pin attempts made him look like he had the resilience of Cena and Austin combined, which seemed ridiculous considering Shane is pushing 40 and hasn't wrestled a match in forever. Having Orton get bailed out early by the Legacy and end the match begging for mercy made him look terribly weak. I suppose it's only logical to book him against HHH at Wrestlemania ,to complete the burial of what was once a red-hot star.
The WWE really set themselves up for letdown by having the Smackdown Elimination Chamber match open the show, which despite the umpteenth HHH title victory, was easily the best match of the night. The only blemish on that match was Kozlov, who seemed out of sync all night, with more than one wreslter having awakward exchanges with him ( Undertaker's snake eyes and HHH's high knee against Kozlov are just two examples I remember where Kozlov looked like he screwed up the timing of a move). I hope the WWE isn't still going to refer to Kozlov as undefeated, since he didn't lose in a one-on-one match. I think it's time to cut the cord on Kozlov until he proves he can handle main event macthes, which he obviously can't at this point.

It will be interesting to see what happens tonite on RAW!. In my opinion, they should have left Edge locked up until the match was over. This sets a terrible precedent - want a title match? go to the ring and incapacitate the challenger so you can compete instead.

I am a little confused with the rules of the chamber. It was my understanding that anything goes, no DQ. To me that means that the ropes are no longer a "home base" if you will. You can't get to the ropes and hope for a break because it won't come. Why was Triple H getting his foot on the ropes considered him being up? It seems to me that in a no DQ, anything goes, this is satan's creation match of this type a foot on the rope should be meaningless.

Also, the WWE should recognize that the IC, US, and tag titles are all second tier belts. By this I mean they should only be defended on TV. It's pretty clear that they don't have room on their PPVs anymore for these belts, except for the 4 hour long Mania. A top talent isn't going to take the IC belt or US belt because they are seen as mid card belts. So continue to use them as mid card belts but have them defended once a month near a PPV. That way they at least seem more relevant.

I am a huge Edge mark and even I agree that this is weird. I would have said that this is a guarantee that HHH or Edge were going back to RAW in the draft but there is so much time between that, including Wrestlemania. Is it possible RAW would go without a champion for a month and a half? Or maybe HHH would be coming over early due to Stephanie's efforts for another feud with Orton.

I had the same feeling about how Edge was booked. It's this type of illogical booking that turned me off of TNA.

Two words that describe this PPV are lackluster and anticlimatic, the WWE followed up a predictable and average Royal Rumble with a even more predictable and below average No Way Out. The opening chamber match was excellent action wise, but all cues were pointing towards a HHH win for weeks, culimating with him "guaranteeing" victory on Smackdown Friday, which coincidentally only seems to happen when he's going over. Lots of boos from the live crowd when HHH hit the 2nd pedigree.

The Orton/Shane match can only be described as a 20 minute McMahon circle jerk, from Cole and Lawler acting as though Orton's punt of Vince was the worst national tragedy since Pearl Harbor, to Shane being allowed far too much offense to make the match palatable, even fighting off Legacy again, and this time they fought back. The only thing left to finish Randy's descent from mega-heel status after the Vince punt to generic heel will be his upcoming WM loss to HHH.

The Edge swerve wasn't really a swerve at all, as there was no other way he would be eliminated so quickly from the first chamber match unless something was up. It still didn't add any drama to the match, and only changed it from a definite Cena victory to a definite Edge one. I'm sure Kingston will have an upcoming title shot and loss against Edge in the next week or two.

I am a great follower of good technical wrestling and some illegal action but for Finlay a proven vertren and wrestling coach to the young starts and Swagger to follow the 1st 2 matches was a travisty of justice, I rather see the JBL/HBK the 3rd match. Its hard to take a rookie and a vertern to get the crowd into there match, no matter how hard they tried. The writers and Vince made a bad call and should of had JBL/HBK too vetrens as the 3rd match

No Way Out was certainly interesting. I think any judgement on the the 'Oh My God' moments should be reserved until this week is over. But WWE have done a good thing here......by doing this it makes people want to tune and find out the aftermath. Also, it puts the mindset into people that anything could happen at a PPV and if you don't buy you miss out. Fortunately in the UK, No Way Out was effectively free - as long as you subscribe to Sky Sports - most other PPVs you have to pay the additional fee.

The Michaels vs JBL match disappointed me. I think the payoff would have been so much better if they had waited until Mania.

I disagree with your assessment on the Orton vs McMahon match. What would have been the point of an elongated squash match? People paid to see Shane O Mac do crazy spots and get some offence in. I think it was the right call with Shane looking brave in defeat, but ultimately battered, bruised and hospitalised.

The Smackdown Elimination Chamber was very, very good - but I do agree Kozlov looked poor. As I mentioned above, with the outcomes of both matches, it makes you more interested in the build up to Mania.

I first read this at 6:40 a.m. Central time. Thanks for putting it up so early.

I think the point of Orton HHH at mania is that the result would be pretty much unpredictable so there would be some real drama there. I thought the last 3 guys in the raw chamber, Edge, Rey and Y2J, all put in unbelievable performances - I'd forgotten how good Rey can be. And seeing Jericho in there made me realise there are so many opponents he hasn't really faced since returning - I think he's an early candidate to be drafted over to SD, but I bloody hope not as I have tix to the Raw taping the week after!

Gimmick matches are to TNA as surprise twists are to WWE. They're being used too much.

Since CM Punk defeated Edge last June for the World title as a result of the Money in the Bank clause, there have three other surprise title changes including Edge's win last night for the World title (the other two include Chris Jericho's win at Unforgiven and Edge's at Survivor Series).

I also think the WWE has just about done all it can with Edge's "Ultimate Opportunist" gimmick. How many times are we going to see this guy find a loophole or weasel his way into or out of an impossible situation? I love Edge but last night was too much to handle.

And although I'm not a John Cena fan by any standards, I was pissed to see him lose so quickly last night. You have the mega babyface World champion and you have him lose- legitimately- in three minutes. Rey did a great job in the match but he didn't need to be one of the last two guys in the match. Cena should have been in Rey's spot at the end.

Not being predictable is a good thing to aspire to, but WWE needs to step back and lay off the surprises for a while. Please.

I'm guessing that they are putting the WWE belt back on RAW and the WH belt back on SmackDown, after WrestleMania of course. This allows Orton to take HHH's belt at WrestleMania and then have HHH go back RAW in the draft to chase after Orton AND have Cena drafted back to SmackDown to chase after Edge for how he took Cena's belt.
Messed up way to do it, Yes but, I'm guessing that's what's behind last nights show.

"Why was this allowed?"

That's what I am wondering. It is not as if Edge is married to Raw's general manager. I just hope that the explanation is not something like "the referee's ruling is final." That would be a cop out, in my opinion.

This might not have been predictable prior to the pay-per-view, but after Edge's quick exit from the Smackdown chamber, I am sure that a great many fans could see where this was going.

I don't care for these matches that feature up and coming talent in major new roles that never happen. I'm talking about Kingston yesterday and what was done with Punk losing the title because he also was taken out prior to the match. IT is a big disapointment when something different is promised and it does not occur.

My only explanation for HHH and Edge owning the titles currently is that they are two of the best legitimate contenders when it comes to cutting promos, so maybe this helps with the build to Wrestlemania, which has been largely missing in action so far.

Also, hopefully the horrible and utterly unbelievable Michaels/JBL story is over with now. This made no sense from the beginning. Only Michaels ability to sell almost anything got it as far as it did. Thank God it may not drag on to Wrestlemania. That would have been a very bad sign for WWE .

Here's what they should do with the story: Vickie's cheating on Edge with Big Show. Edge finds out and they break it off. Edge is devastated and furious, and decides to get back at Vickie. Who has been feuding with Vickie but Triple H? Edge and Triple H, the two champions, form an alliance against Vickie.

The only thing is, who can blame Vickie for cheating on Edge? Triple H will of course be cheered, but with Edge you are both against him because he's been the top heel for a year and a half, but you're for him because he just got cheated on. You hate him but you feel bad for him. Vickie comes off kind of in between, too.

Suddenly, Smackdown would be a lot more interesting.

(Meanwhile, the Raw roster can come together because they need to find a way to get a belt back, which sets up a Wrestlemania Roster vs Roster Battle Royale)

"It was bad enough when the WWE was inserting Chris Jericho and Edge into title matches last minute in previous months, but at least they had the GMs making those decisions, no matter how flimsy the logic of their decisions was."

I totally agree with Glen. A very bad precedent was set, last night. Why are we supposed to care about the qualifying matches for future Chamber contests? If you aren't scheduled to be in the Chamber match, just beat up someone who is, jump into his pod, and presto! You are in title contention! When Edge cashed in the his Money-in-the-Bank priveleges against beaten-into-helplessness champs like Cena and Undertaker, that was at least true to the MITB concept.

How about this for a WWE swerve?? Step-HHH-anie strips Edge of his title and they "re-do" the Elimination Chamber match at WM? Have Edge-Kozlov-Taker in a number one contender fight at WM? It looks as if the Orton Legacy have been laid to rest by the McMahons?? He's a legend Killer but not a mcmahon killer?? Shane is "Tough Enough" -haha.

hey kev, do you think at WM we will get a triple threat between edge HHH and orton (maybe they'll even add cena to the mix) to proclaim an undisputed champion? i know it's a long shot, but it's better to have one single world title than to have two now that superstars can appear at any brand whenever they want.

P. S. I AM NOT SEEING ANOTHER ELIMINATION CHAMBER IN WHICH HHH IS INVOLVED EVER AGAIN

i liked edge being included in the raw chamber. who says wrestling needs authority figures to run things anyway, the chaos element and suprise is alot funner with out them. also shane should not have gotten that much offense on orton that should of been a glorfied squash with orton all the way, specially if hes about to take on triple h in wrestlemania.

Didn't Rey and Edge fight for the WHC at last years no way out. Final two in elimination chamber is Edge and Rey for WHC. Just a thought

TP -
re: your comments about HHH , no truer words can be spoken . HHH's number of titles deserves an asterick due to nepotism .

I'll reserve judgement on the Edge thing until the end of the week - I'm right there with you on that one, Kev...

I think to conclude the JBL HBK fued, JBL should try to buy the services of another superstar to take HBK out at WM 25. Then, during an in ring interview he brings out his choice of a hired gun.
Out walks Undertaker, who then turns on JBL, but then says he'll take out the showstopper anyway, without JBL's money. That gets rid of JBL (finally) and sets up the streak vs the guy who always steals the show at WM.

If they put Koslov vs Undertaker at WM25, I won't be watching. They need to drop the ball on Koslov. Put him on ECW if he and McMahon are really good buddies, but he's screwed up at two PPV's, and was eliminated like a rag doll at the Royal Rumble. Face it. The guy is not going to be a big monster heel!

Too bad about Kofi - they should have taken out Mike Knox instead or Kane. Kofi would have made it an even more exciting match. I hope he's in Money in the Bank at WM - and wins. I know it wouldn't make sense at this point, but he is really exciting and could be great if given the proper chance.

I'm not a huge critic of HHH like a lot of others, but we need an elimination chamber that he doesn't win.

The Legacy.... from the final 4 at the Royal Rumble to looking like a few gimps like Hawkins and Ryder... Sad.... that had huge potential.

why didn't they make a big deal about kozlov getting pinned last night? wasn't this only his first or second pinfall loss of his career? i see evan bourne or mvp winning money in the bank this year and probably a hhh/stephanie vs. edge/vickie tag match in the near future

The WWE is now, very sadly, starting to reflect the dying days of WCW where the World Championship was passed around more often than that girl in your school who just loved ...

NINE World title changes in five months is just cheapining, not one, but two Championships that used to hold such prestige.

It's a sad reflection on who the WWE's target audience now is; kids. Hell, they have an attention span of about six minutes anyway, so one wrestler holding one belt for 21 days must seem like an eternity to them.

Infact, regarding some of the other current Championships, to count the last five reigns you have to go as far back as June 2007.

Huh, most precious prize in the game, my a**!

i thought the ppv was awesome. never really been that into edge but i was loving him! the worst thing was randy orton shane. it was still a good match but shane should of got destroyed not the other way around.

Just want to make it clear from the start: Im a huge Edgehead....

The way I see it Edge being put in the chamber could be explained like this. After Stephanie left with Shane, Vickie was put in charge and she kicked out Kofi to allow Edge his rematch at the World Championship from when he lost it to CM Punk, as I dont recall him getting a rematch....

With regard to Orton I think he'll switch shows like Beniot did when he won the Rumble, and face Triple H in an effort to get at Stephanie...

As for HBK and JBL, could it be said that Michaels should have been DQ'd for outside interference and this would lead to a No Holds Barred rematch at Wrestlemania between the two....

Im gonna level with you all. Im only a 17 year old Irish kid, Im no expert, but thats just the way I see it....

By the way, I discovered your blog when I was looking for information at the time of the Beniot thing. I've grown to read it religiously. Keep up the awesome work. I've also noticed you mention a place by the name of Dundalk. Just thought I'd mention that coincidentally, I'm from a Dundalk in Ireland!...

Ok i have officaly lost it Two strait years in a row and HHH won both elimenation chamber
forgod sakes ...give us a break and releive us of this onslot of HHH

I don't really see the confusion about Edge being in the Raw Chamber. They made a point to explain that Stephanie was not there after Shane's match, so with the GM gone, the inmates tend to run the asylum themselves. Who was going to step in and tell Edge he couldn't be in the Chamber? No McMahons were there? Vickie? Not hardly. Teddy Long? Why the hell would he get any say? There's no reason, with the situation the way it was, for Edge not to do what he did. It was good storytelling, although I would have much rather seen Knox taken out than Kofi. We'll see what Stephanie has to say about it tonight, but as for last night, where's the confusion?

I was really hoping for an Undertaker victory in the Chamber seeing as the only thing he hasn't done at WrestleMania is defend a World title.I thought that would have added a nice twist.But the last few minutes of the match were great with UT and HHH.I'm kinda on the fence with HHH anymore,on the one hand it bothers me that everyone seems to think that HHH got to were he is because he's a McMahon.He's were he's at because he get's it done inside the ring and can do it aganist a wide variety of oppents.I don't see everyone up in arms about how much Shawn Michales and UT win all the time,and they're not married to the bosses daughter.Why?Because they get it done inside the ring.Need a good match to help elevate someone?Call one of these three.Need a story to get over.Call one of these three.Why?Because the crowd is emotionally invested in these guy's.That's not something that happens just because you're married to Wrestling Royality.That's done through hard work and being able to connect with the audience,something that alot of today's so called Superstars are lacking.Buuuutttt....I kind of think yet another Title victory, inside the Elimination Chamber no less,is a bit much.It wouldn't kill him to be on the undercard at Mania for a year.He doesn't have anything left to prove he should be in more of an UT kind of role where he feuds with some of the up and comming guys to help elevate them,gets thrown in the title picture sparingly,and get's to work a lighter schedule.Giving him a few months off a year and then amping up his comeback will make it feel special when he does return.Plus the less you use him the better the chances are that he's not going to get another major injury.(I commeted to my buddy last nite I'm suprised he didn't tear both his quad's again,after slipping out of the Last Ride).
And speaking of being able to connect with the audience,is it me or is WWE completley dropping the ball on the way they use Rey Mysterio?Yeah,I knew Edge was walking out of the Chamber as champion but there were a couple of times that Rey made you feel like he might actually do it.You just want to root for that guy!There are so many PPV quality match up's that WWE has not explored when it comes to Rey.
Rey vs. Michales, Rey vs. Jericho,
Rey vs. HHH, Rey vs Cena,
Rey vs. Orton, Rey vs. Jeff Hardy,
And I can't even tell you how intresting a Rey vs. Undertaker match would be.I just think it's weird that it feels like they are trying to come up with some fresh match up's for Mania this year and Rey isn't even cosidered.He's way over with the fans and always puts on an emotional match.I don't think anyone would be complaining about a main event match with Rey,Rey in it.
Sorry for the rant Kev,I thought it was agreat PPV and as always a great blog!

Well, I just don't know where the WWE is going these days. HHH winning the chamber like LAST year seems like he is openly flaunting his backstage power. Which is a shame cause I wanted either Edge to retain, or have Jeff win it. It seems like writers can't make up their mind with Jeff. They want to push him no, wait, bury him a little to give more spotlight time for HHH. I figured they would have permanently erased Chris Benoit by having Jeff win/retain the title at 'Mania follwed by a huge celebration but then again he didn't win the RR. They should put HBK in the world title picture and hopefully we'll see a glimmer of light in this mess.

Kev,

Are you sure Randy got busted open hard way? Reason i say this is that he had time to blade while the camera's weren't on him, and without a blade job Randy would have looked stupid lying on the announce table while Shane battled Priceless. The blood justified him being laid out for so long???

RESPONSE FROM KEVIN ECK: The word is that Vince has banned blading for now to be more family family. Plus, it was obvious that Shane really connected and Orton did not get his hand up to protect himself at all.

rebecca punced jbl not slapped..

anyways, heres my thoughs at nwo 09:

most memorable moment: shawn and rebecca especially after the match
best match: hbk vs jbl
omg moment: rebecca punched jbl
worst match: smackdown chamber
additional thoughts: hhh is so so so overrrated boring and loves to make himself the champ always yet he doesnt even draw to be honest. i then must agree to the rock, he's obssess being the champ yet doesnt even draw.. trying hard yuck!

btw, rebecca punching jbl got the biggest pop of the night!

It would have been better if TAKER won the elimination chamber match.But let us hope that taker goes one on one with hhh in WM.

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