Survivor Series thoughts
Last night’s Survivor Series pay-per-view featured a major plot twist and both world titles changing hands. As far as in-ring action and big-fight atmosphere, however, the show fell short of the high standards WWE has set for its pay-per-views – especially one of the “big four.”
The show’s “Oh my God!” moment was provided by Edge, who made his unannounced return and ended up winning the WWE title. Edge, in his first appearance since losing a Hell in a Cell match to The Undertaker at SummerSlam in August, took the “injured” Jeff Hardy’s spot in the triple threat match with WWE champion Triple H and Vladimir Kozlov.
There also is a new world heavyweight champion, as John Cena, making his much-hyped return since undergoing surgery to repair a herniated disk three months ago, won the title from Chris Jericho.
The rest of the card – The Undertaker-Big Show casket match and the three Survivor Series elimination matches – was OK, but nothing really stood out.
Here’s a match-by-match look at last night’s show:
John Cena defeated Chris Jericho to win the world heavyweight title: Cena got a positive reaction, but not the thunderous ovation I expected after the big buildup for his return in his hometown. Both guys worked hard, but the Cena-Jericho match that I saw live at SummerSlam in Washington in 2005 had way more heat than this. The story of this match was that Cena was a bit timid and conscious of his surgically repaired neck early, but his confidence increased as the match went on. He did appear to have some legitimate ring rust.
Jericho focused his attack on Cena’s neck and was on offense much of the way – which was the giveaway that Cena was going over. At approximately the 21-minute mark, Cena won clean with the FU, which elicited a good but not great pop. Now that Cena is again the champ, I wonder if the big gold belt will be getting Cena-ized. By the way, I loved Cena’s new T-shirt, which had his “Hustle Loyalty, Respect” catch phrase designed in the style of the old American Wrestling Association logo.
Edge (subbing for Jeff Hardy) defeated Triple H and Vladimir Kozlov to win the WWE title: The crowd stopped caring about this match the instant it was announced that it was going to be a one-on-one match due to Hardy being unable to perform. Triple H and Kozlov were doing a lot of mat wrestling and rest holds, which elicited chants of “boring” and “we want Hardy.” Mercifully, Smackdown general manager Vickie Guerrero announced at approximately the 13-minute mark that “he” was here and it would be a triple threat after all. Instead of Hardy, however, out came a bug-eyed, scruffy Edge, who appeared to be going for the Mike Knox look.
Edge hit the ring and speared Triple H. Hardy, in street clothes, then ran out. He went to hit Edge with a chair, but Edge ducked and Hardy nailed Triple H. Hardy also smashed Kozlov with a chair. Edge then speared Hardy and pinned the fallen Triple H to win the title. Smackdown instantly became a lot more interesting. Going forward, Triple H and Hardy will both want a piece of Edge (who presumably will be revealed as the person who attacked Hardy at the hotel), as well as each other. Plus, Edge and Guerrero appear to be back together. As for Kozlov, the fans just aren’t into him enough to warrant continuing his big push.
The Undertaker defeated The Big Show in a casket match: This was nowhere near as good as their previous two pay-per-view encounters, as it came off more like a match you would see on free TV. I’ve never been a big fan of casket matches, so I really wasn’t expecting all that much.
Team Orton defeated Team Batista: William Regal must have made someone mad, because he was pinned by CM Punk in a matter of seconds after the match began. The next four eliminations were all babyfaces, leaving Batista at a four-on-one disadvantage. He took out Mark Henry and Shelton Benjamin before falling victim to an RKO by Randy Orton. So Orton and Cody Rhodes, who argued with each other in the locker room before the match, were the survivors. The match served a purpose as far as advancing Orton’s angles with Batista and the Rhodes/Ted DiBiase Jr./Manu faction.
Team HBK defeated Team JBL: Shockingly, MVP scored the first pin of the night (on JTG of Cryme Tyme). He then walked right into a chop by The Great Khali. Thanks for coming. The finish saw Shawn Michaels take out John Morrison with Sweet Chin Music. Rey Mysterio and The Great Khali also survived, and the three of them celebrating together was quite a sight. Khali kept raising his partners’ hands and it looked as if he was about to yank Mysterio’s arm out of its socket. I’m surprised JBL didn’t catch a fall on Michaels in this match to further their program.
Raw divas defeated Smackdown divas: This was sloppy and rushed, as there were nine falls in nine minutes. Surprisingly, Michelle McCool was the third woman eliminated, and Mickie James was taken out next, which the crowd did not like. To no one’s surprise, Victoria was the first one eliminated. Beth Phoenix emerged as the sole survivor after finishing off Maryse.







Comments
SS was the first PPV i've paid money for this year and I was thoroughly pleased. The first match was a fun crowd pleaser and I was glad to see Morrison heavily involved, and while the casket match was predictably terrible and the divas match was a divas match I thought the two mains delivered. Ok the first one was pretty dull but had a great finish, but I though Cena Y2J was a great, great match; even though it was a shame to see the title change, as soon as it was revealed that this match would headline it was obvious where the belt was going so it was just nice to sit back and enjoy Cena selling big to Jericho for 20 minutes.
The only real sour point of the night was when Batista went down to four on one, beacuse at that moment it became apparent that his whole team(half of whom, Punk and Hardy, are better workers and markedly more over than him - arguably the other two are as well) had been buried just to set up a finish to make him look as strong as possible.
And am I the only person who thought Christian was going to be the swerve in the Hardy angle?
Posted by: Amos | November 24, 2008 11:42 AM
So did Team Batista win or Team Orton? Was Batista on Team Orton?
RESPONSE FROM KEVIN ECK: Team Orton won, which is what I meant to write.Thanks to you and all who alerted me to my error. Guess I wasn't thinking straight after that big Ravens win.
Posted by: Eric | November 24, 2008 12:11 PM
I am happy cuz Cena is back and he won the World Heavyweight Championship belt hes a champ again.
Posted by: Chelsi | November 24, 2008 12:13 PM
Re: Divas match
It's funny because at just under 10 minutes, it was the most time the Divas have got in who knows how long, yet it was still rushed as you said.
The match did do a great job of making Maryse a threat as she pinned Kelly, pinned Mickie, and debuted a cool looking leg submission finisher that eliminated Candice from the match. She also got to outlast the rest of her own team, including McCool. That's pretty surprising considering there were reports that she had some blow up with McCool backstage and was being punished for it.
Posted by: chris | November 24, 2008 12:14 PM
The Casket Match was terrible. the only good spot was the leg drop onto the ECW table. Too much druid interference.
I felt sorry for JR and Taz as they did everything possible to sell the Kozlov-HHH match as actually being exciting. It was terrible until Edge came out. Whoever thought that ten minutes of guys laying on top of one another in rest holds would be exciting needs to get fired.
Posted by: Elevation | November 24, 2008 12:32 PM
Pretty boring PPV overall. The highlight for me was the "you can't wrestle" chant that went off when JBL got in the ring.
Posted by: JTK | November 24, 2008 12:38 PM
To be bluntly honest, that show completely sucked. I'm glad I watched it online instead of actually paying for it, or I'd want my money back.
Posted by: The Showster | November 24, 2008 1:04 PM
I like title changes as much as the next guy, but it would be nice if the WWE actually made wrestlers who have been away from the game for awhile actually work their way back to the title picture, even a little bit. I guess the days when #1 contender matches actually meant something are long gone, but for both titles to change hands to wrestlers working in their very first matches since month long absences seems a bit much. I have no problem with Edge or Cena as champ, just make them earn it first. It appears that once you get to a certain level in WWE, your mere existence entitles you to a title match. Jeff Hardy must've felt great to see that after busting his butt for months to work his way into the title picture, Edge just gets to walk right back into wearing gold. Does this new trend mean Mr. Kennedy will be the next man to be world champ?
I suppose the logic gap with Vickie siding with Edge will be explained on Smackdown, but wasn't this whole scenario a little too derivative of the angle with CM Punk being injured before his title match by Orton, and then Jericho being a last minute insertion who won the match and title? I suppose the one good thing to come of this is that it seems that Kozlov will be de-emphasized, now that it has been shown he is deadly dull when trying to work a match longer than 3 minutes with someone.
Posted by: Glen | November 24, 2008 1:23 PM
Hey Kevin, I've been reading your blog for months now and i agree with pretty much all you say.
I thought i'd give my opinion on the PPV. Overall it was pretty poor. I thought Cena winning was inevitable, although i'm unhappy he did as he did not seem to earn it (much like Orton says.) Plus I hated the way the commentators made him out to be superhuman.
I did like the Edge ending to the Smackdown title match. What I think would be brilliant is if Edge and Hardy can be kept apart for a while before having a huge match for the title, maybe at Wrestlemania.
The only other thing that I thought was good was Morrison. I know they played on it, but he really reminds me of the Heartbreak Kid. I'd love to see Morrison get a singles push sooner rather than later. Then again as far as the WWE is concerned they probably don't see him as good a wrestler as Batista or Cena.
Gimme a break!
Posted by: Adam_North | November 24, 2008 2:47 PM
I hate i spent $40 on this. I actually thought Jeff hardy would get to be a major player in the match, but Edge, or should I say, Grizzly Adams, ruined the whole deal. I guess a trip to hell isn't as far as I thought.
Posted by: Jerry | November 24, 2008 2:59 PM
Championship matches used to mean something.
Nowadays, there is always a catch it seem with each match. Out of action wrestlers come back and win cold. Guys attack someone offstage then are allowed to come in, with the match already underway already and win. Why would anybody pay to see this nonsense where nothing means anything?
Posted by: AMC | November 24, 2008 3:25 PM
"...it would be nice if the WWE actually made wrestlers who have been away from the game for awhile actually work their way back to the title picture, even a little bit." Very well said Glen. I couldn't agree with you more. Just tease us with the thought that they "really" may not be ready to come back.
Posted by: Gwen | November 24, 2008 3:37 PM
I was there at Survivor Series and i was pleased. While the HHH Koslov match was going on , besides those two chants, the crowd was so silent that I swear you could of heard a pin drop ... not literaly but yea.. I wanted to take a bathroom break but i knew something else had to go on in that match so i did not want to leave. The funniest think was during the match.. when vickie came out.. i heard the crowd actually scream for joy .. I though it was Hardy so i looked around to find vickie instead.. usually she gets booed so immensly but to me it seemed like any thing could relive the crowd from that incredibly dull match. I really hope a feud betweem Edge and Hardy is set up, i would LOVE that.Ending with Hardy taking teh belt from Edge. :] that would be great. Although i like them both. Edge's beard however not so much. I think he looks way better shaven :)
Posted by: Anna | November 24, 2008 4:16 PM
Again comes my indiffernce concering storylines...
Is the Edge deal a set up for Christian's return? If so what will happen to Hardy?
Posted by: Rob the barber | November 24, 2008 4:20 PM
This may just be because I was there, but the casket match was actually pretty excited, when the wall of flames blocked Big show, it was pretty sweet. The whole night the crowd seemed pretty dead, but when Cena arrived, everyone was on their feet which was a change. Also I was disappointed by the HBK JBL match, it seemed short, although JBL not getting into the ring was pretty funny, anyone reminded of last weeks Regal-Hardy Match. Brian Kendrick pinned Kung Fu Naki in a dark match, after which he took one of Kung Fu's Karate Kid kicks to the head
Posted by: Sam | November 24, 2008 5:10 PM
I think that the casket match was really bad, and it was obvious that it was rehearsed, I think overall, it was quite a dull PPV, and the only unexpected thing that happened was Edge coming back, and winning the title.
I think that CM Punk should go solo again, and challenge Cena for the world heavyweight title.
Posted by: lauren | November 24, 2008 5:35 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this was only the fourth time that the WWE Championship and the World Heavyweight championship belts have changed hands on the same night. The first two were in November 2002 & December 2002, and again at WrestleMania 21.
Also, Mike Knox totally pwns Edge (beard-wise).
Posted by: Mr. Sarcasm | November 24, 2008 6:14 PM
OK
well thank god john cena beat y2jackass
and the whole jeff hardy getting screwd AGAIN is pathetic
the casket match was ehh it left something to be desired i mean taker is hall a fame bound for sure but that was not a good match
the diva's one was well like all the rest
don't get me wrong i love the wwe but come one
the survivor series matches were ok but i thought kahli was going to tear rey's arm right out of his socket hahaha
the only good thing about batista losing is that he lost to randy orton
this is just my opinion on tyhe whole ppv on a scale of one to 10-7 because Cena one a world title FINALy......
Posted by: jj | November 24, 2008 6:16 PM
I think this sets up a potentially great program with Edge and Hardy. Afterall, they do have a history together, albeit in tag wars. I would like to see Hardy get screwed out of winning the belt a few times, but see him go over big in Houston in a TLC main event. However, I doubt that would happen, since Triple H needs something to do, and I doubt he will be mid-carding anytime soon.
Posted by: Paul | November 24, 2008 6:16 PM
the hh vs kozlov was the most boring wwe match i have ever seen in my life it was terrible
when i heard hardy was not going to be there i lost all intrest in it.
Posted by: bo | November 24, 2008 6:18 PM
did anyone else notice the guy run across the top of the ramp during the undertaker bigshow match
it was when show as tryin to escape and the fire came i thought is was jeff hardy ( it looked like him)
i was like who is that...
Posted by: aj | November 24, 2008 6:24 PM
Kevin,
It was great to see Edge return, although him seemingly being in cahoots with Vickie again doesn't seem to make sense on the surface. After watching Matt Hardy get interviewed in the back during the PPV, I started wondering if maybe he'll be the one that actually took Jeff Hardy out in the hotel stairwell. A brother v. brother feud could be entertaining, ala Brett/Owen. That, or I'm thinking it will be Christian. Edge being the person that knocked Jeff Hardy out seems to obvious and anti-climatic. What are your thoughts on that possible storyline?
RESPONSE FROM KEVIN ECK: I've written several times that I would love to see Hardy vs. Hardy.
Posted by: Hawaii Paul | November 24, 2008 7:24 PM
First, let me address Mr. Michael Cole.
What Chris Jericho did to Cena was NOT a "modified Walls of Jericho". That WAS the walls! Later when he did a boston crab and you said it was the "full walls of jericho"... I'm going to hunt you down!
My theory is that Vince had Jericho change the move because he used it all the time in WCW as the Liontamer, and we all know how much Vince likes to hide anything that was good that he didn't create. He probably told Jericho to just do a boston crab instead of the Liontamer becasue well... Vince is insane.
I'm hoping Christian comes back to WWE. A story line between Edge, Christian, and Hardy would be amazing! Maybe with Edge's new look and an explanation of somehow escaping "hell"... the brood could be brought back? Nah...
I'm just marking out over the return of Edge, so sorry if my ramblings don't make sense.
RESPONSE FROM KEVIN ECK: I agree on the Walls.The WCW version (Liontamer) looks a heck of a lot more painful. I never liked that the move was changed to a simple Boston Crab.
Posted by: White Rabbit | November 24, 2008 7:44 PM
Blech.. I was kinda hoping Cena would return and be some sort of different, actually interesting, character this time.
I'm not one of those folks who'll trash his ring work, because I do enjoy his matches and have no problem with that... but the same old tired "trying to be intense but coming across as a constipated, petulant, small child" thing needs to go.
Also, reading elsewhere that Regal was sick and that was why he was out fast rather than management wrath or anything. Just on one site, though, your mileage may vary.
Posted by: Pat | November 24, 2008 8:01 PM
did anyone see cm punk get nailed in the head with layla's shoe? it clocked him right in the temple.
Posted by: dankman | November 24, 2008 8:12 PM
I didn't see the PPV but the way Edge's title win is being described is aggravating. Before his vacation, the WWE made it seem like his character was taking a turn for the better, meaning that he no longer would get la familia's help to win matches. But there he was last night, entered into the match by Vickie after it started and picking up the win only after a chair shot to HHH. Please tell me I won't be seeing Chavo and Bam at one of his matches anytime soon. Please tell me these fluke wins will stop. I mean, jesus, here is THE BEST wrestler in the biz today and the WWE is booking him like he's a ham and egger ( thank you for that phrase, Bobby Heenan). How's about a clean win for once?
Posted by: ryan errol | November 24, 2008 8:43 PM
Maybe matches would have been a little more entertaining if the crowd was at all into it,that's got to be tough to go out there,give it your all and 15,000 people are just staring at you.
Posted by: Andre the Midget | November 24, 2008 9:59 PM
About the "walls of jericho," I believe Jericho changed the move so he could perform it to larger opponents.
When he's in there w/ smaller heavyweights, like Cena, he can pull off the WCW version. I wouldn't expect to see it against Batista or Kane.
Overall, good show.
Posted by: Chris Slater | November 24, 2008 10:11 PM
I would also like to see Cena do something different...change his old worn out character and make it interesting somehow.
Posted by: AMC | November 24, 2008 10:27 PM
I agree with you, Ryan Errol. I was hoping that Edge would come back as a tweener or even a face. Maybe an uncontrollable heel. Anything but the reunion of La Familia. Let's just hope that Smackdown will bring us some pleasant surprises.
Posted by: Din | November 25, 2008 10:41 AM
i was soo angry when jeff didnt even get to be in the match, he has worked for months just to get there, he would of already had the title is HHH wasnt the title holder, coz u know, no one can pin HHH clean, i meen the man got hit with a swanton and reversed pinned hardy. ANYWHO, i was really annoyed and dissapointed with the whole payper view, though i do admit, if hardy got what he deserved, (the title) i woulda loved it.
i just hope hardy owns edge in a TLC match or something and HHH can go away
Posted by: Michael | November 25, 2008 11:06 AM
I was hoping to see a good one on one with HHH and Kozlov. but then it end up so lame. The WWE should get Brock Lesnar back again. to make the show interesting.
Posted by: Anonymous | November 25, 2008 4:25 PM
did anyone else notice that in the casket match the undertaker did not close the casket himself he threw show into it
somethings telling me that the fued is not over
Posted by: aj | November 25, 2008 7:27 PM
What a surprise that edge came back on the EXACT night that hardy gets "injured".
I think the storyline will be played out like this- A) Edge retains title all the way to wrestlemania, then a TLC with Hardy. B)They Face off at royal rumble 2009. C) Christian comes back and Edge and him face offf at araggeddon or RR. D)(Best one so far) They wait all the way till wrestlemania and put the three in a TLC match.
But we all know none of those will probably happen because of HHH.
JUst tired of deserving superstars not getting their glory and other superstars just climbing back on top on their return. Has anyone ever won gold on their return besides Survivor series on sunday?
Posted by: haha,i won | November 26, 2008 1:30 AM
I have to say I was thoroughly disappointed with the Survivor Series for a number of reasons.
The casket match between Big Show and Taker was vastly inferior to their contests at No Mercy and Cyber Sunday and the ending was poor.
The WWE title match decended into what could be only described as an utter farce. As much as I admire Edge as a performer, I thought it was a slap in the face to the paying fans the manner in which the match ended. We all know pro wrestling is a work but we dont need to be reminded of it in such a shameless manner.
On the subject of Kozlov vs Triple H, I found it a little sad that fans were chanting "boring" etc. Kozlov's mat wrestling style is actually more 'believable' than some of what is served up during matches these days and some of us actually like to see a good wrestling match from time to time. It wasn't a classic, but was nowhere near as bad as some are making out.
Best match of the evening goes to Team Batista vs Team Orton. Thoroughly enjoyable.
Dunno what was happening with Cena's music when he came out, was it intentionally high pitched or was it my telly? I quite enjoyed the match between Cena and Jericho and I hope Cena gets a good run with the belt. I like Jericho but another 'interim' reign would not be good for him. Personally I think it should be Cena vs Batista at WMXV and Cena should win to make it 1-1.
Perhaps im being picky but I thought the entrance at the event was very similar to the Smackdown entrance and the whole show had the feel of a 3 hour episode of Smackdown.
A disappointing effort
Posted by: David Marjoram | November 26, 2008 3:43 AM
SS was one of the worst pay-per-views I have seen in recent years. It was so disappointing and looked like a tired, lame effort by WWE.
The matches were all fairly predictable and while the Edge return was a decent swerve, it was only welcomed to save us from one of the worst Triple H matches of all time!
Posted by: Scott S | November 26, 2008 7:59 AM
john cena is so hot
Posted by: Jamie Wisniewski | November 26, 2008 7:56 PM
i am sick in tired of the whc changing hands every month
god i hope cena has a good run at leats 8-10 months is good enough ....
Posted by: Anonymous | November 29, 2008 9:03 AM