Cyber Sunday thoughts
There was no saving Chris Jericho this time.
I can’t say I’m all that surprised that he lost the world heavyweight title to Batista at last night’s Cyber Sunday pay-per-view. As I have said before, Batista had to get the belt at some point after getting screwed so many times in recent title matches. And with “Stone Cold” Steve Austin as the special referee, it would have been difficult to come up with a scenario in which Jericho would retain, Batista would still come out looking strong and Austin wouldn’t appear to have been outsmarted by Jericho.
Nevertheless, I thought it was too early in Jericho's title reign to take the belt off him, and I expected him to escape one more time. But then again, I am an admitted Jerichoholic, and it probably was wishful thinking on my part.
Now that Batista is the champion, things should get interesting with the imminent returns of John Cena and Randy Orton. There is plenty of history between the three, and since it was Batista who injured Cena, one would think a Batista-Cena title match is coming soon.
Overall, I thought the show was really good. Every match was solid (I don’t even consider the Santino Marella-Honky Tonk Man a match), and the top three bouts – Jericho-Batista, Triple H-Jeff Hardy and Big Show-Undertaker all delivered.
Here is a match-by-match look at last night’s show:
Batista defeated Chris Jericho to win the world heavyweight title: In what was the lock of the night, “Stone Cold” Steve Austin won by a landslide in the voting to determine the special referee. This was a fun match, as Shawn Michaels and Randy Orton – the other two candidates in the voting – got involved, as did JBL. At one point, Jericho hit the Codebreaker, but Austin was incapacitated. Michaels then entered the ring in his ref shirt and made the slowest count in the history of wrestling, which allowed Batista to kick out. Later, Jericho eluded a Stunner by Austin, but the distraction led to Batista hitting a spinebuster and then a Batista Bomb for the pin. The manner in which he lost gives Jericho ammunition to claim that he would have retained the title if not for biased officiating by Michaels and Austin.
WWE champion Triple H defeated Jeff Hardy: Despite WWE pushing hard on Smackdown for Vladimir Kozlov to be in this match, there really was never any doubt that Hardy would win the voting. For the second straight pay-per-view, Triple H and Hardy had an awesome match, and Triple H again did a great job of making Hardy look like he is every bit his equal. Hardy was on offense most of the way, but his one mistake – going for a second Swanton Bomb right after connecting on one – cost him. After Hardy missed the second Swanton, Triple H recovered and went on to hit a Pedigree off the top turnbuckle for the win. I was convinced that Kozlov was somehow going to get involved, but I guess he will be getting his title shot at Survivor Series next month.
The Undertaker defeated The Big Show in a last man standing match: The match, which went about 20 minutes, could not have been booked any better, as The Undertaker overcame quite a beating to win, and The Big Show cemented his standing as a monster heel. Big Show physically dominated The Undertaker for much of the match, and at one point Show was even no-selling punches to the face. After nearly losing several times, Undertaker caught Big Show in the unnamed submission hold (the gogoplata, but never called that in WWE) that Smackdown general manager Vickie Guerrero had banned earlier this year, and choked him out. I thought it was weird that the announcers made no mention of the fact that the move is outlawed. I fully expect Guerrero to overturn the decision or penalize The Undertaker in some fashion Friday on Smackdown.
ECW champion Matt Hardy defeated Evan Bourne: As expected, Bourne was the runaway winner in the voting. This was a very good, fast-paced match and both guys performed well. It lasted approximately 11 minutes, and I thought another five minutes or so would have made it even better.
Rey Mysterio defeated Kane in a no holds barred match: This was the best Kane match I have seen in a while. For the second consecutive pay-per-view, these two worked well together despite the huge contrast in size and styles. While the matches between Mysterio and Kane have been good, no one really cares about this feud, so this might have been the conclusion to it.
The Honky Tonk Man defeated Intercontinental champion Santino Marella by disqualification: I can’t believe the WWE Universe almost blew this one, as the final results were: Honky Tonk Man, 35 percent; Roddy Piper, 34 percent; and Goldust, 31 percent. Sure, Piper is a legend, but after all that buildup with The Honk-O-Meter, one would think that HTM would have won by larger margin. And how in the world did Goldust get that many votes? Anyway, a win is a win, or so I’ve heard. I knew this would be kept short due to HTM’s limitations, but I was thinking four or five minutes, not one. After Beth Phoenix tripped HTM, the ref called for the DQ and that was it. Marella wasn’t happy with Phoenix, but they’ll probably make up tonight on Raw. I can’t believe that HTM didn’t nail Marella over the head with a guitar after the match.
John Morrison and The Miz defeated Cryme Tyme: This was a pretty straightforward tag match. The crowd was into it and all four guys worked hard. This match-up beat out CM Punk/Kofi Kingston versus Ted DiBiase Jr./Cody Rhodes by three percentage points. So Punk has gone from being world champion to not even making it onto the pay-per-view.
Mickie James won the Divas Halloween costume contest: The voting proved once again that whether or not she has the women’s title or is even involved in a story line, James is the most popular woman in the company. She won this contest for the second straight year despite showing a lot less skin than some of the others. Nice job here by the WWE Universe.
WWE.com exclusive match – U.S. champion Shelton Benjamin defeated R-Truth: I wasn’t surprised that R-Truth didn’t win the title, but I was surprised that Benjamin won clean. What’s up?







Comments
Unfortunately I missed Cyber Sunday, so thanks for the blog Kevin. I'll be watching it on DVD anyway. All I can say is that I'm dissapointed that Punk and Kingston didn't get the match. I think they would have if they had been placed against Miz and Morrison.
I can't really tell, but maybe you can shed some light...
1.Do people actually like Cryme Tyme?
2.And more importantly, would you consider Rhodes and Dibease to be "over" as heels? I like them as heels, though I can't say I care much for Cryme Tyme.
I think Morrison is severely underrated for his abilites and like you, I hate to admit it, but Miz is getting better! (Still wouldn't cheer for him though)
Now I just hope they don't forget about Punk and Kingston. Those guys are very exciting to watch. I think that they should form a group with Evan Bourne and Rey Mysterio and fight Orton, Rhodes, Dibease and someone else who I can't think of at the moment.
Posted by: Rob | October 27, 2008 3:35 AM
Wow, this whole thing with Jeff is ticking me off. If they're gonna keep making Jeff lose, just don't give him the freaking title match. And it's annoying how WWE knows that most of us love Jeff and still makes us go through this bull.
Posted by: Rick | October 27, 2008 3:45 AM
okay i understand Triple H is all strong and everything but Jeff Hardy desirves that belt more than anyone else. I've seen him wrestle all my life and i can see he's grown and become stronger than ever. 15 years in his career this is just about the right time when he should be the WWE Champion. Either the WWE wont let him have it or they just want to make it seem like his still a kid. Everyones a kid at heart let me tell ya something this kids got a great heart and determination to get that belt. I hope that he'll get it at Survivor Series next month. And no one likes Vladimir he's new and plus he thinks he can defeat everybody just because he's undefeated by unsigned wimps. I'd like to see him face Undertaker or CM Punk before he even tries to call himself a true WWE wrestler. Jeff went against Undertaker (it was in a ladder match too) he lost but he said "you haven't broke me yet.... i still stand" Sure Undertaker attacked him but he still had respect for him and saw that he had a heart of gold. Point is Jeff has worked extremely hard on trying to get this belt and this should be his golden year he turned 31 on August 31st and 15 years in the business on Oct. 15th.
Posted by: Alysia Martinez | October 27, 2008 6:51 AM
Jeff Hardy had to go for the second Swanton last night. At their previous match, Jeff hit the Twist of Fate and then the Swanton and Triple H still just nicely pulled Jeff over for the pin. Why on earth would Jeff think the combo would work this time?
I respectfully disagree that Triple H made Jeff look like his equal. At the last pay per view all it looked like was "Jeff can hit both of his finishers on me and I won't even be phased by it. I'm so awesome I can pin him without even hitting the Pedigree on him." Last night just cemented that Jeff Hardy can give it everything he has, but he will never grab the brass ring.
Posted by: Tammy | October 27, 2008 7:37 AM
I have to give my two cents about this "WWE Universe" term. As I recall, the first time I heard it, it was with McMahon's Million Dollar Mania. I didn't like it then and I like it even less now. It just doesn't work for wrestling like it does in the comics. I am basing this on the fact that DC Comics has been referring to itself as the DC Universe for quite some time. The term "universe" works for comic books both figuratively and literally because the comics feature both a host of characters comprising the their universe (figurative) and far away and distant galaxies (literal). When it comes to wrestling, I'll admit that some of the characters' gimmicks may be comic-book in nature, but these are real people we are talking about. Furthermore, it seems as if WWE is intent on creating its own catchphrase (WWE Universe) and is applying it to its fanbase. These are real people, no some magical array of supporting characters. By referring to the fans as the "WWE Universe," WWE is only confusing matters. Imagine if a casual fan tuned into WWE programming leading up to Cyber Sunday. They might find themselves wondering if the "WWE Universe" is an exclusive club. They might wonder if it costs money to join and what they get for that money. My point is this: Did the WWE really need to start calling its fanbase a figurative name, and use it literally? It sounds forced every time someone says "WWE Universe" on-air. Why copy DC Comics? Hopefully this will all come to an end just like McMahon's "Unbelievable" phase did a decade ago.
Posted by: Jerry | October 27, 2008 8:01 AM
Hi Kev,
Love the blog, don't really get much coverage here in the UK. Bit frustrated with WWE for not pushing the younger guys like MVP and Kendrick enough in the last month. I get the impression that the issue is that WCW is not there anymore to clean up the aging talent on lucrative deals as in the past. I think WWE needs TNA to be a success to keep the product freash. I think people like Punk, MVP Kendrick, Benjamin need elevating because we seem to be having the same old fueds with the same old people on a merry go round, and i'm getting bored!!
Posted by: Nick Taylor | October 27, 2008 8:54 AM
The last match really showed how crowded RAW will be in the coming months. With Cena, Batista, Orton, Jericho and JBL all in the picture it coud be a pretty hectic place. Maybe Micheal's actions last night will respark his and Jericho's feud and take him out the title picture.
Suprised you didn't mention Vickie's awful slup up, that's make even Adamle blush.
Posted by: Sam Fletcher | October 27, 2008 9:03 AM
All in all a pretty good PPV and I agree on the Santino Marella - HTM match, that should have gone on for at least 3 minutes (just cut about 5 min from the Undertakers entry to keep the show within time constraints.
I was also pretty ticked off to see Jericho loose the title. At least they could have made him retain it by outside interference and have Batista beat him later. Then again, I'm a big time Jerichoholic.
Put my question after this is... who did Victoria tick off??! Not only is she constantly the clown diva but last night she was a banana?? Now, maybe she ticked someone off way worse than MVP did or the lady has a wicked sense of humor.
RESPONSE FROM KEVIN ECK: I don't know this for a fact, but I wouldn't be surprised if this gimmick was Victoria's idea. She knows she cannot compete with a lot of the divas as far as being glamorous, so she is playing comedy heel. No one else is doing it, so at least it gets her noticed.
Posted by: Jon G.S. | October 27, 2008 9:23 AM
Kev, liking the sarcastic use of 'WWE Universe' - how annoying is that? It is almost as annoying as the constant John Cena promos.
That aside, it was a decent show. I was actually disappointed that Kozlov did not get involved and Hardy lost clean again to Triple H. I actually think Kozlov getting involved and screwing one or the other would have made more sense from a storyline perspective, but take nothing away from the match. It was awesome.
Batista winning made sense, and although not a full Jerichoholic, I would like to have seen him keep the title somehow.
The Divas costume thingy made me cringe...some of them were awful. We need to see more of Maria and Eve....Although I guess I could purchase a magazine to do that.
All in all the WWE Universe can be proud.
Posted by: Wayne | October 27, 2008 9:28 AM
It's funny that CM Punk wasn't on the show considering he was the one on the poster. When has that ever happened before?
Posted by: Geckle | October 27, 2008 10:15 AM
i think the Honky Tonk Man should get a rematch, and it should be a no disqualification mach for the Intercontinental championship
Posted by: Larry Meeks | October 27, 2008 11:24 AM
It sounds like I missed a good show. I suppose it's because the Raven's ABSOLUTE DESTRUCTION of the Oakland Raiders made me forget about the PPV. Hopefully Cyber Sunday will be available on Blu-Ray soon.
Posted by: Sean | October 27, 2008 4:28 PM
Considering how Jericho lost his title, I feel that he should draw out more of the temper he had at the beginning of his heel turn where he almost brutalized JBL and HBK with chairs before stopping (only this time he actually brutalizes his opponents). I feel like there needs to be a more dangerous and vicious heel on RAW right now. On Smackdown you have the Big Show and Koslov but on RAW theres really no big threat to the faces considering Batista's size vs Jericho's size.
Posted by: MK | October 27, 2008 5:36 PM
"1. Do people actually like Cryme Tyme?"
I am one "silly white boy" who can't stand them. It beats the heck out of me what the attraction is to those two.
Posted by: Christopher | October 27, 2008 6:02 PM
FOR WAYNE about the cm punk being on the poster and not on the ppv, same thing happen back at One Night Stand with Kane on the poster and he was even in a match but yea he was the ecw champion so maybe thats why, but he didn't have 50 Kane copies in the background.
Posted by: Kevin M | October 27, 2008 6:22 PM
jeff hardy is thee best! and wwe sucks for still not let jeff win the freaking title.
Posted by: matthew | October 27, 2008 8:01 PM
I have to agree with the consensus of opinion that last night's finish to the Hardy/ HHH match did more harm than good for Hardy. Having lost cleanly to HHH at two straight PPVs with a lopsided loss to Kozlov sandwiched in between kills his momentum dead and takes away any claim he has to another title shot for awhile.
I also think Jericho makes for a better champ on RAW at this point than Batista, as I've always found Batista pretty bland, and Jericho as the cowardly heel seemed to be getting over. With Orton and Cena still not ready to wrestle, I shudder at the idea of a Survivor Series with HHH/Kozlov and Batista/JBL as main events. Fans of techincal wrestling can stay home for that night.
Posted by: Glen | October 27, 2008 8:06 PM
I'm sorry - can anyone explain to me why anyone likes Batista? The fact is, he's not impressive as a worker, and couldn't cut a promo if his gym membership depended on it. Why he continues to be over with fans is absolutely beyond me. At least Cena can cut a promo and tries new things from time to time (not too much though - can't go without giving the 13 year olds the five knuckle shuffle...). Batista's more and more looking like the WWE's 2000's answer to the Ultimate Warrior.
I'm not saying Jericho should have kept the belt, but could they find anyone else to put it on besides him?
Posted by: Ted Christenson | October 27, 2008 8:22 PM
I wouldn't look for Jeff Hardy to win the WWE Title until he's proven to the Brass that he can keep clean. In less than two years since he returned from TNA, he had 2 Wellness suspensions. He originally went to TNA because he had too many drug issues in the WWE and refused rehab.
From a completely storyline perspective, the story they are telling with Jeff, and have been for months, is that he takes high risks that sometimes are a detriment to his goals.
Not to mention, several huge stars and multiple world title holders chased the world belts several times before getting the big win. I'd like to think that the WWE is, once they trust him not to embarrass them, waiting to give him that HUGE moment that can only happen at the Big 4.
Posted by: Mina | October 28, 2008 12:33 AM
Thanks, Kevin M. I knew that it had happened with Kane, but I couldn't remember which pay-per-view it was.
Posted by: Christopher | October 28, 2008 1:40 AM
"Batista's more and more looking like the WWE's 2000's answer to the Ultimate Warrior."
Umm. I suppose if you're sense of humor is not subtle enough you might think that.
Posted by: Marko50 | October 28, 2008 3:22 AM
Seeing how frustrated Jeff must be feeling, are there any predictions for when Jeff may turn heel? I don't think that the fans would give him a whole lot of heat, but it would be understandable.
Posted by: Gwen | October 28, 2008 10:55 AM
Question:
How did WWE Universe almost blow the voting for SAntno's opponent?
Answer:
They did blow it. Despite the push, Honky barely won. That's because nobody really cared for Honky's old act that much in his day and nobody really cares to see him do the same old act again.
I've always hated the "hit the guy with a guitar" shtick. Just plain stupid...a staged waste of a fine musical instrument. I've never been a Jeff Jarret fan either for the same reason, though I have liked his recent promos on TNA.
Posted by: AMC | October 28, 2008 1:25 PM
I LOVE Cryme Tyme. I definitely think that they're a very, if not innovative, then at least unique tag team at this point in time. No one else uses moves at all like theirs. Their match was excellent from a tag-team wrestling standpoint. Kevin, I'll be interest to see what you say about Raw's tag match with Punk, Kingston, and the champions, because I thought it was unbelievably sloppy, especially in comparison.
Some already said it, but Vickie sure made Mike Ademle look good by comparison last night.
And Taker/Show was phenomenal. That chair shot to the throat was sick.
Posted by: David | October 28, 2008 1:59 PM
Who'd have thought that the first Pepsi Plunge to be performed in WWE would be by Triple H and not CM Punk? I thought I would NEVER see that move in WWE due to safety reasons.
RESPONSE FROM KEVIN ECK: Actually, it wasn't a Pepsi Plunge. Now that I look back at what I wrote, I think I could have been clearer. Hardy was on the top turnbuckle and Triple H was standing on the mat. Triple H jerked Hardy off the rope and hit the Pedigree as he did.
Posted by: Mr. E | October 28, 2008 5:10 PM
Ted C . - as a closet "Warrior" fan (inside the ring) , I beg to differ with your analogy of Batista being like Warrior .
I think a better 2000's version is our own Kevin Eck . Hear me out :
1). controversial (Ring Posts)
2). questionable in ring skills (see MCW )
3). outstanding physique (witness photos w/ Bruno).
..... touche' Kev , for swipe at me last week :-)
signed "the voice of reason".
Posted by: the artist formerly known as jack in hebron | October 28, 2008 7:22 PM
Why doesn't the WWE put the belt on Hardy. Don't they base who gets the title partly on the popularity? Seems to me it would be a draw for fans if they did something controversial like give Hardy the top prize.
Posted by: Eric | October 29, 2008 9:54 AM
Why is everyone complaining about jeff not winning the title ?
This was his 3rd shot this year, it's not that bad that he didn't win the title, Orton waited all through 2007 to get his reign , he had to constantly keep jobbing to cena , he would have never got it if cena wasn't injured.
Posted by: tito | October 29, 2008 2:54 PM
Regarding the Santino/HTM match, I actually bought the PPV to see HTM in action. What a previous blogger doesnt understand is that fans over 40 grew up watching wrestling in the 80's and early 90's. Championship Belts actually ment something at that time, and the IC title was the #2 belt in the company. HTM was not the best wrestler, but he was a great entertainer. Santino is also a great entertainer, and believe it or not, has brought the title back to life. I hope they drag the Honk-A-Meter on until WM25, and then they have a no DQ match with HTM winning and then retiring the next night on RAW.
Posted by: Angelo Russo | November 2, 2008 4:42 PM