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Who will play third for the Orioles in August?


We are back on baseball, where we are going to stay for a while.

I could ask what you think about the Miguel Tejada signing, but we already did that before it became official. We are so darn efficient at Connolly’s, it can be a real killjoy for future topics.

But the well – or the kegs -- never runs empty around here.

During Tejada’s introductory press conference on Tuesday, Orioles’ club president Andy MacPhail made a point to say that Tejada was signed to be the team’s third baseman for the 162 games of 2010 – or as close to 162 as possible.

Basically, his point was that Tejada wasn’t signed just to hold a place for the organization’s top third base prospect Josh Bell. So even if Bell is tearing up Triple-A in July, MacPhail still expects to have Tejada on the hot corner at season’s end.


This is where the cynic in me rises up. I am not buying it. If Bell shows he can hit – and switch hit – at Norfolk, I think the Orioles will give him a shot to do it full-time in the big leagues.

That may mean Tejada gets pushed to designated hitter or perhaps out the door at the July trade deadline.

If I were a betting man, I’d say Tejada doesn’t last to August 1 in an Orioles’ uniform. The man can still hit, and there will be a contender that will want to add him as a sparkplug in a pennant race.

Then again, MacPhail doesn’t like to rush his prospects, and maybe he will keep Bell in the minors until rosters expand in September. Maybe Bell struggles to the point that he needs the full season at Norfolk. Maybe he struggles and they trade Tejada anyway for another future piece. They could move Ty Wigginton or Garrett Atkins to third in that scenario.

So we know Tejada, barring injury (and the guy is extremely durable) will play third for the Orioles on Opening Day. But I want to know who will be on the hot corner in August. I want your predictions. I won’t hold you to it.

Daily Think Special: Who will play third base for the Orioles in August?



Comments

I don't think Tejada gets traded even when Josh Bell comes up. He will move to SS and Izturis will come off the bench. Keep the .300 hitter in the lineup and move him back to his natural position when Bell is ready. Imagine Bell, Tejada, Roberts, and Atkins as the infield. That should be something worth looking forward to.

It depends on how well the O's come out of the chute and whether Miggy is putting up numbers like last year. I believe that if the pitching exceeds expectations, as I think they will, Miggy will be around for the full term.

Tejada will stay the whole season, I think. Bell will come up when rosters expand.

who knows, maybe izturis gets injured and we need tejeda at third. i think bell is up sometime during the summer. and tejeda is DH.

we don't even know if he can handle AAA pitching, plus now he is brutal in the field!

Connolly, its a good thing you are not a betting man. The more likely scenario is Tejada returns and ignites this offense and turns in a stellar defensive performance by August after maybe a slow transition, meanwhile Bell continues too struggle from the right side of the plate in triple A and maybe becomes September callup, maybe even trade bait again. Everybody wants to anoit this kid Bell but he simply is at least a year, maybe two, from primetime.

Connolly, Love Ya Man, but good thing you are not a betting man. Tejada will play ALL 162 at 3rd, to an ALL-STAR LEVEL! Believe it. Bell will continue to struggle from the right side of the plate in triple A. Late callup at best. The Arizona Winter league revealed why Matt Angle is getting an invite and why he should be looked at to make the Major Leagues before Bell, if not w O's, then someone else via trade, thanks to our outfield being set. Have to say, I don't recall in some 20 yrs, the O's having so many quality options in the outfield both at OPACY and down on the farm. AM is not getting paid enough for this resuscitation, I for one, will from now on refer to him as the General! Yes, you heard it here first, Angle will make the big's before Bell. In fact, Angle will impress in spring so much (ala Reimold '09, along w Montanez, that Felix Pie gets traded for another top arm a year away. Bedard signs too for an incentive laden, 2 yr deal w 3rd yr option.

Not sure I agree. I think having Miggi here all year will be best for the team. Bell can and should wait a year. Atkins vs. Snyder I think should be more of the discussion. Speaking of which, how far behind is Warning? I assume he will start in Bowie but if Snyder gets called up does Warning go to AAA or will they just use Hughes and/or Aubrey? From what I have gathered Warning's potential is better than Synder's?
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Barkeep's Reply: You're right. Waring likely will start at Double-A. If he plays well, I think a mid/late season promotion to Triple-A would be likely. But that probably is as far as he gets in 2010. But ya never know.

Whos on first?

bell has a long way to go to reach the majors successfully. tejada for all 162.

Lots of variables here. What about Scott? If he does his dive again this year, he may be the odd man out.

And if we are playing well, and I expect this lineup to hold its own with anyone, we are not going to dump an All Star and tick off this fan base yet again.

Josh Bell

Wow - this is different! Tough problems to have - too much talent int he organization to figure out where they might be in August!

I hesitate but the more I am seeing the more I am coming to believe that maybe Angelos has stepped back and allowed Oriole Magic to return. Sure I am an eternal optimist (what other choice do I have?). yet I believe if this team stays healthy they will be in contention deep in the year. I predict an over .500 season with 2011 as a breakout year.

Finally, we really have something to look forward to. Who cares if Bell or Tejada is on 3rd! We have a better team and its nice to be talking about that kind of quadry!

Does it really matter , the O's still won't challenge for anything except third or worse............................When is the last time the O's played a meaningful game late in the season ? This team is a joke , Peter the Great must be proud...........

IF HE IS anything like juan bell, webetter hope ATKINS and teq, stay m maybe BROOKS ROBINSON would be a welcome addition.

Miggy will be there because Bell will be rehabbing at the Taco Bell fat farm. A glove like a garbage can lid but, boy can that kid eat...I mean hit.

THE MANAGERS AND COACHES IN THE SOUTHERN LEAGUE WHERE BELL PLAYED BEFORE BEING TRADED VOTED BELL AS THE BEST DEFENSIVE 3RD BASEMAN IN THAT LEAGUE LAST YR.

I think Bell doesn't make an appearance until September, if that. He has to prove himself at AAA first. The only way we see him before then is if Tejada is injured, if Bell is tearing it up at AAA, and/or if Tejada is traded for an offer that is too good to refuse.

I think a similar question to ask is how soon until Waring or Snyder get promoted to the show?

With Tejada signing only a one year deal, it would only make sense for the orioles to trade him. I'm not sold on this rebuilding project yet. Sure we have some great young players, but thats not gonna matter after another sub .500 year. Look for the O's to trade Tejada for an upper level or major league ready prospect. Bell Will be starting in August or if he gets injured or faulters in the minors we could even see some Scott Moore.

This is going to be a fun year. Either the team will be performing better than the past decade and will be fun to watch, or they will continue their ineptitude and the fan base meltdowns will be a source of entertainment for anyone who can step back from the fray.

I say Tejada is at third in August. The only way that changes is if both of the following happen: Bell (or Snyder) is tearing it up at Norfolk, AND Tejada is playing well enough that someone offers a solid return for a trade. No need to dump him at fire sale prices even if one (or both) of the guys at Norfolk is doing well. While that scenario is possible, having both those independent variables happening at the same time is not highly likely.

Besides, if the Orioles are in the hunt for a playoff berth why would they mess up the team they already have? The world view is great with these orange-colored glasses I picked up at the Convention Center over the weekend.

Beer please...Dos Equis. wow, this is harder to predict than the weather. I say it comes down to how well we are playing come July 15th. If we are tanking, we trade MT for _______. If things are going well and Bell isn't tearing the cover off the ball, he stays and is our regular 3B on August 1.....until September 1.

Dan, I don't know if you've seen the linked video clip from MASN (or maybe you hear it live), but here's an exchange between MASN's Steve Melewski and Andy MacPhail (begins around the 1:50 mark):

Steve Melewski - "Andy, based on your answer, is the expectation then that Josh Bell would probably be in Triple-A all year?"

Andy MacPhail - "Well, you never know. Like I answered up there, this is a game where things change all the time, but he hasn't had any Triple-A at bats yet, so I think that's a reasonable progression."

http://www.masnsports.com/ml/video.php?show_id=236197

As would be expected, MacPhail doesn't state anything in absolute terms, but unless Bell tears things up for the Tide the way Nolan Reimold did a year ago, it sounds like the Orioles don't intend to rush him.

Honestly, for all Bell's potential, I can't understand how people want to rush him to the majors when he's shown he can't hit left-handers.

Want proof? Here's his splits at Double-A last season

vs. RHPs: .339/.417/.626 in 362 PAs

vs. LHPs: .193/.282/.259 in 156 PAs

Further, according to Baseball America's Ben Badler, since Bell's Single-A debut in 2007, "he has hit 41 of his 43 home runs against right-handed pitchers. He has plus raw power, but it only shows up when he bats left-handed."

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=6642

So that's something that has to be resolved before bringing him up. If Bell couldn't hit lefties in Double-A, it's ridiculous to think he's going to be able to solve major league lefties like C.C. Sabathia, Jon Lester, Cliff Lee, Andy Pettitte, Johann Santana, Cole Hamel and Scott Kazmir, to name a few. They'd eat him alive.

If he can't hit lefties in the mid-minors, he's sure not going to be able to hit the ones he'll face in the majors. So how to proceed with him.

Well, there are two schools of thought about that: One, that he be given a baptism of fire and learn to hit them as he goes, or two, he be allowed to make a "reasonable progression" hitting southpaws at Norfolk for a year before being given the big test.

Keep in mind that he'll only be 23 this season, so there's no reason to rush him if he isn't ready. Better to have a finished product later, then ruin him by bringing him up too soon.

And of course this doesn't even include the Tejada part of the equation. If he's having another All-Star caliber season, somehow the Orioles still have an outside chance at a wild card berth in July and Bell has made no real progress hitting lefties, then a third option might emerge: Trade Miggy if they can get reasonable return, wait until September to bring up Bell and play either Wigginton or Atkins at third for the rest of the season.

Bell could be brought up regardless, but I don't know that it does him any good to be thrown into a platoon, where he rides the bench when the O's face a lefty. He needs to learn how to hit them, not avoid them. That doesn't help him develop as a player and doesn't help the Orioles if he's to be their third baseman of the future.

That is, unless the Orioles feel comfortable using him exclusively against righties. They have had successful platoons in the past and this could be one, but better they give him another season to try to figure it out before going that route.

I can't believe this garbage!!!

You clowns know full well that Tejada, Millwood, and Atkins will be traded at the deadline and the next 37 year old, bum looking for a team the Orioles will sign.

Look, just bring back Palmiero since you brought back Tejada and while your at it 38 year old Zaun would be a good fit for the 3rd time and heck, Manny Alexander could probably still pull one out of the hole at SS but thats only if Cal says that McPhail can get him.

Orioles are a joke and so are you all for even talking about the stupid stuff they do.

Oh and by the way, I am an O's fan but I see them for what they are.... a fan manipulating organization!

Scott Moore or Garrett Atkins

Ravens2488, Ah, does that mean we're being "manipulated" into thinking Matt Wieters, Brian Matusz, Nolan Reimold, Brad Bergesen, etc. are the real deal? Is that drinking organizational Kool Aid to think that these players might just pretty good?

If so, then count me in among the ranks of the manipulated Kool Aid drinkers.

Wake up! Rome wasn't built in a day and neither does a baseball team improve without growing pains.

But MacPhail knows what he's doing and 2010 version of the Orioles should, barring injuries to key players, be markedly better than they've been in a long while.

This is going to be a fun year, especially with new personalities on the scene.....and i dont mean Miggy and Atkins......i am referring to two new bloggers. Mr. Happy, also known as "Ravens2488" and "Early 'Pants on the Ground' Johnson".

Cant wait for the season to get started.....so much drama to look forward to....the O's have a chance to either be a 500 ball club, or lose 95 games. Could go either way......the only thing i know for sure is that the O's farm system is a lot worse off then it was last year.
My question isnt who will be at third, but who will be managing the team in July?
To quote a famous Temptations song from the 60's......."standing on shakey ground" should be Trembleys theme song if the team falls under 500 for any length of time.


it'll probably be tejada, just because andy will not want to rush bell when he has a better option playing there already. hopefull the o's have plans to make bell a full time lefty because he could not hit from the right side last year.

I say Tejada, if hitting well, will be traded for prospects in late July/August. Bell will stay at AAA until their season ends and Wiggington/Turner/Adkins man 3rd for a few weeks. Sometime this year Bell will be told to give up the RH hitting and just go LH'ed.

I think Miggi will be traded. He can still hit over .300 and has doubles/gap power. The O's will bat him second which will give him solid ABs and inflate his R/RBI numbers. And will increase the curb appeal. Some real contender will come looking for a solid bat due to injury or something...

August 1 = Josh Bell unless he underwhelms.

@ Ken Francis - A third option is Josh Bell gives up his attempt to switch hit and strictly bats lefty. It sounds like his swing is different from the right side. That could improve his splits. But I know AM and the coaching staff wants him to continue switch hitting... Maybe that will be the X factor.

Ken Francis - Ah yes to your manipulation question... The guys you listed what have they done so far?

You were also manipulated into thinking

Daniel Cabrera, Hayden Penn, Adam Loewen, Matt Riley, Geronimo Gil, Denny Bautista, Jorge Julio, Rodrigo Lopez, Sidney Ponson, Larry Bigbie, Luis Matos, Darnell McDonald, Ed Rogers, Walter Young, Keith Reed, Chris Britton, Brian Burres, Chris Widger, Brandon Fahey, Garrett Olson, Tike Redman, Lou Montanez, Sean Douglass, Tim Raines Jr., and Chris Richard.

were the real deal!

Look, its not orange koolaid your drinking, its a narcotic Slushee. Put it down, quit drawing on the windows, and go to sleep.

Brian, Yeah, there's been talk about Bell maybe going entirely to lefty, but I don't think he's committed to that at the moment. Of course, if he starts the year switching hitting, then two or three months into the season decided to abandon it, that just slows his development down, at least initially.

I say that because he'd then need to get enough at bats against southpaws as a left-handed batter to start feeling comfortable and that's not going to happen overnight. If he's going to do that, I think it's better for him go into spring training with that in mind.
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Ravens2488, "Narcotic Slushee?" LOL I'll give you style points for that one!

Substance points not so much, but definitely style points.

That's really a mixed bag of player you cite, not of them bad, by any stretch of the imagination. Lots of people were fooled into thinking D-Cab was the real deal, including some in the organization. Don't forget, this is the guy who one-hit the Yankees. (BTW, you for to add to your list the one I like to call D-Cab Jr.--Rahames Liz.)

Rodrigo was a pretty decent pitcher for a while the O's, having two 15-game seasons and another where he won 14. Not too shabby. He was the real deal, but no for very long. Not a great pitcher, but decent.

Sir Sidney briefly was good enough that the Giants traded for him when they were in the middle of a pennant race.

Loewen had real promise before his arm injury, so that's not like he was a flop in the talent department.

Even Julio was decent as a closer for a while, recording 36 saves one year for the O's and over 20 on two other occasions.

Montanez is still open to discussion as far as I'm concerned. He had a call up from Triple-A last April when he was hitting over .400 for Norfolk. There's no way to say whether or not he can hit in the bigs because he had so few at bats before his injury; so the jury's still out on him.

Some of the players you mention actually fooled the Orioles, particularly Hayden Penn, who some mistakenly saw as the next Jim Palmer. It's not always possible to project right as to potential.

But I never bought into all the players you mentioned as the real deal. And I was against it when the O's traded John Maine to the Mets for Kris Benson. Maine, I considered (and still do) a real talent. (I'd have rather seen Penn go.) As it turns out, since the Mets acquired him Maine has had four consecutive winning seasons .

As for the current crop to which I alluded, let me say that if I'm drinking tainted Slurpee, then so are a lot of non-Oriole fans, including some of the best baseball minds, who have said Wieters is a can't miss All-Star and franchise-type player. Matusz was recently selected by Baseball America as the third-best prospect in all of baseball and some project Tillman as even ahead of him. Both Bergesen and Reimold were being considered as strong Rookie of the Year candidates before their seasons were abruptly ended with injuries.

Maybe there was manipulation in the past, but I don't see how you can reasonably call it that now.

Brian, Yeah, there's been talk about Bell maybe going entirely to lefty, but I don't think he's committed to that at the moment. Of course, if he starts the year switching hitting, then two or three months into the season decided to abandon it, that just slows his development down, at least initially.

I say that because he'd then need to get enough at bats against southpaws as a left-handed batter to start feeling comfortable and that's not going to happen overnight. If he's going to do that, I think it's better for him go into spring training with that in mind.
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Ravens2488, "Narcotic Slushee?" LOL I'll give you style points for that one!

Substance points not so much, but definitely style points.

That's really a mixed bag of player you cite, not of them bad, by any stretch of the imagination. Lots of people were fooled into thinking D-Cab was the real deal, including some in the organization. Don't forget, this is the guy who one-hit the Yankees. (BTW, you for to add to your list the one I like to call D-Cab Jr.--Rahames Liz.)

Rodrigo was a pretty decent pitcher for a while the O's, having two 15-game seasons and another where he won 14. Not too shabby. He was the real deal, but no for very long. Not a great pitcher, but decent.

Sir Sidney briefly was good enough that the Giants traded for him when they were in the middle of a pennant race.

Loewen had real promise before his arm injury, so that's not like he was a flop in the talent department.

Even Julio was decent as a closer for a while, recording 36 saves one year for the O's and over 20 on two other occasions.

Montanez is still open to discussion as far as I'm concerned. He had a call up from Triple-A last April when he was hitting over .400 for Norfolk. There's no way to say whether or not he can hit in the bigs because he had so few at bats before his injury; so the jury's still out on him.

Some of the players you mention actually fooled the Orioles, particularly Hayden Penn, who some mistakenly saw as the next Jim Palmer. It's not always possible to project right as to potential.

But I never bought into all the players you mentioned as the real deal. And I was against it when the O's traded John Maine to the Mets for Kris Benson. Maine, I considered (and still do) a real talent. (I'd have rather seen Penn go.) As it turns out, since the Mets acquired him Maine has had four consecutive winning seasons .

As for the current crop to which I alluded, let me say that if I'm drinking tainted Slurpee, then so are a lot of non-Oriole fans, including some of the best baseball minds, who have said Wieters is a can't miss All-Star and franchise-type player. Matusz was recently selected by Baseball America as the third-best prospect in all of baseball and some project Tillman as even ahead of him. Both Bergesen and Reimold were being considered as strong Rookie of the Year candidates before their seasons were abruptly ended with injuries.

Maybe there was manipulation in the past, but I don't see how you can reasonably call it that now.

Anonymous - But thats what I'm saying... Look, I'm an Orioles fan and what you said is true about the players I mentioned but I mentioned them for the fact that the O's always overhype their minor leaguers to the fans thus manipulating the fans to think that these players are going to be saviors (Loewen, Ponson, Penn) or are going to be regulars.

I think Wieters and some of the pitchers will be good but the Orioles track record with minor leaguers tells us to step back and not believe their hype. Let these guys play for a couple of years to see what they can do before the fans go with the hype.

Just wish these fans would get off the hippie lettuce and use their head.

I think Tejeda would have to be playing sensational or the Orioles contending for a playoff spot, for him to remain the 3rd baseman in August. By August, I think a future Oriole 3rd baseman will take over the position - mostly likely Bell or Moore. But there are play others in the pipline that the front office could go to like Warring or even Synder.

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