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2 for 1 smithwick's? Gimme 2 which is really 4, right?

The MVO is LUUUUUUUUKE Scott. He's on pace for 30+ HR's. That's MVO stats. He also has a great attitude and seems content with his role as DH/OF.

The funny thing is....he might be gone come 7/31/09.

1) Jones
2) Sherrill
3) Scott
4) Bergesen
5) Johnson

Clearly Like Scott

Luke Scott.

Dave Trembley.
Here's why.
O's are 8 games under .500 in tough AL East with the following having occurred:
1. 4/5 of the Opening Day starting rotation gone.
2. Two rookies playing everyday.
3. Look at the batting averages - not much to brag about there - although to Crow's credit, this teams scores runs.
3. Little production from Melvin (although he was fantastic in the 2nd half of last season.
4. Starting SS goes down for an extended time.
5. Two rookies in starting rotation.

I love to see what Leyland, Torre, or LaRussa could do with what Dave has has to deal with.

For a player, this is an easy one: Bergeson.

LUKE SXOTT, 1ST IN HR, 1ST IN BA IST IN SLG%

bergesen!!! do you get excited to watch every game (which jones usually plays in) or when an oriole pitcher has a chance to win? i feel much more comfortable when bergy is pitching than with any oriole pitcher since........yeah i got nothing. he's still a huge plus

I think it would be interesting if you broke this question up....into say, 1. most valuable defense; 2. most valuable offense; 3. impact. etc.

As far as defense: I'd go Cakes\ Jones (the 2 of them are 1 and 1.5), Itzuris, Andino

Offense: Scott, Jones, Cakes

Impact: Andino; I hated this trade when it went down, I admit now that I was wrong. His defense has been stellar (and if he played everyday, you think he'd have a better glove than Itzuris?)

Easily Scott.

Bergesen saved the pitching staff. He's the man.

Here in beautiful Piittsburgh, our Mayor is 27 year old Luke Ravenstahl. His campaign slogan is "I Like Luke." I'll take that for Oriole MVP too, Luke Scott, with Adam Jones, and his All Star Game GWRBI, a very close second.

1) Scott
2) Jones
3) Sherrill
4) Bergesen
5) Johnson

Dan Connolly.

Luke Scott, no doubt about it. He has been the most consistent hitter all year. Lefties, Righties, it doesn't matter. His hot streaks are getting more and more impressive as well, hitting home runs in bunches at times.

If they trade him or not resign him, I will lose a lot of respect for Andy McPhail and this teams upper management.

It's A. Jones without a doubt. Yes Luke has a good stick, but he can't come close to being a all around athletic player as Jones is becoming.

No one. No one is valuable if you are a losing team.

It's hard to go against Adam for his overall impact on the game - plus the fact that he seems to be the focal point of much of the talk about "the future." But I also think Reimhold deserves some attention too.

I love when people say stuff like "clearly" or "obviously", like no other opinion but theirs makes sense...

In order, my choices are:
1)Sherrill
2)Scott
3)Jones
4)Bergeson
5)Johnson

It's a close call with Jones and Scott, but since Jones made it to the Allstar Game and Scott didn't, Jones is my man.

MVP Arm: Bergy

MVP Bat: Scott

I'd give the nod to Bergesen, just because he's been the most consistent of anyone. Scott is streaky, we know it, he knows it, the fantasy world knows it. Brad Bergesen has been a pleasant surprise to the O's rotation, I think he's thrown 7+INN in each of his last 7 starts... ridiculous. Couple of 8INN games and a complete games are in there also.

Easily Bergesen. Pitching is what will ultimately turn this team into a winner (or not), so having a guy who goes out there every 5th day and pitches deep into games, giving his team a chance to WIN, is more valuable than any gaudy batting stats.

Also, let's just stick to sports talk here, okay? The bar analogy was amusing initially, but has gotten old pretty quick.

Adam Jones.

I've got to go with Luke Scott.

i'd vote for bergesen. his success has helped to keep the orioles from making any panic moves with the minor league pitchers, lent stability to the rotation, and helped to keep the bullpen from being so overworked. i also think that i detect that this ballclub plays with a little more focus when he pitches. that may be because he pitches quickly, or, because the club has confidence that he will keep them in the game.
his effect on the club reaches beyond his numbers every fifth day.

George Sherrill. He's saved half the team's wins. Lesser relievers would have lost half of his saves. He's only got one loss and two other blown saves. And his saves aren't with multiple-run leads against last-place teams. I doubt that many other relivers -any?- have a record so superior to their teams overall mark. MVP is not about best individual performance but most value to the team's record.

Luke Scott is your MVP

WHEN are y'all going to appreciate what this guy DOES for the O's???

Scott SHOULD have been at the AS game along with Jones
He SHOULD have been in the HR Derby ... it might have been worth watching

Mauer & Inge in it ? what a joke that was

To anyone who says Jones or Sherril.

Opinions vary but the facts are:
Jones 12HR 47RBI 23BB
357OB .481SLG .303AVG

Scott 18HR 51RBI 29BB
384OB .592SLG .305AVG

Scott has better numbers than Jones in every catagory and has 87 less at bats!!!

As for Sherrill, saves are the most over-rated stat in baseball.

From http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/080805...

Well, that's precisely the problem: the very name. "Save" is as misleading a term as "reality television." Closers don't really "save" many games these days, nor is the game really on the line most of the time. Closers merely conclude what is usually a foregone conclusion. By the time the music starts and they charge to the mound to protect a three-run lead, the victory is already all but assured.

1) Jones
2) Scott
3) Bergesen
4)Sherrill
5) Johnson

My first half MVP is Andy McPhail. MVP to me is most valuable person. He has signed our #1 pick quickly again this year and has sprinkled in the young guys over the course of the season very well. With more guys coming. Without him I'm not sure where we'd be. Go O's

This is one of those questions that while everyone is entitled to their own opinion, there does actually happen to be a right answer and a bunch of wrong ones.

By any definition, Luke Scott is the MVO. No he's not their best player, but he's certainly having the best season. Jones is the only other one in the discussion thanks to his defense, but his OPS is a whopping 138 points lower than Luke's. Luke has also been very consistent, as his little post DL hot streak has managed to continue on even if he's not hitting five homers every series.

Luke leads the team in OBP, SLG, AVG, HRs, and RBIs. Again, this is not a debate.

Bergesen has been fantastic, but come on people. He's played in 16 games. You can't be MVP of a team while playing in less than 20 percent of the team's games. Especially when you have a 3.54 ERA. Again, he's a great story and has bailed out the rotation, but come on. I don't want to even get into Sherrill...let's just suffice it to say that playing 37 of roughly 800 possible innings means you don't get to be MVO, even if he's having a great year.

Finally, am I the only one who's not gaga over Andino? What the hell is everybody here smoking? The dude has a .260 OBP. Do you realize how atrocious that is? I don't care if he's got Ozzie Smith's feet, Willie Mays's range and Robert Clemente's arm, no defense can make up for a sub .550 OPS. He let us keep our heads above water when Izturis went down, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. The guy is a borderline utility man at best, nice story or not. Sure he's had a bigger impact than Hayden Penn would have, but that's like saying Rosie O'Donnel is hot just because she's more attractive than Margaret Thatcher. Give me a break (and a future SS preferably).

Plays shallow. For those of us who have enjoyed the great and the bad of the Orioles over the years, Paul Blair was the quintessential center fielder, and he played very shallow, and got to everything that he needed to. A center fielder playing shallow in Baltimore is a great thing.

This is one of those questions that while everyone is entitled to their own opinion, there does actually happen to be a right answer and a bunch of wrong ones.

By any definition, Luke Scott is the MVO. No he's not their best player, but he's certainly having the best season. Jones is the only other one in the discussion thanks to his defense, but his OPS is a whopping 138 points lower than Luke's. Luke has also been very consistent, as his little post DL hot streak has managed to continue on even if he's not hitting five homers every series.

Luke leads the team in OBP, SLG, AVG, HRs, and RBIs. Again, this is not a debate.

Bergesen has been fantastic, but come on people. He's played in 16 games. You can't be MVP of a team while playing in less than 20 percent of the team's games. Especially when you have a 3.54 ERA. Again, he's a great story and has bailed out the rotation, but come on. I don't want to even get into Sherrill...let's just suffice it to say that playing 37 of roughly 800 possible innings means you don't get to be MVO, even if he's having a great year.

Finally, am I the only one who's not gaga over Andino? What the hell is everybody here smoking? The dude has a .260 OBP. Do you realize how atrocious that is? I don't care if he's got Ozzie Smith's feet, Willie Mays's range and Robert Clemente's arm, no defense can make up for a sub .550 OPS. He let us keep our heads above water when Izturis went down, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. The guy is a borderline utility man at best, nice story or not. Sure he's had a bigger impact than Hayden Penn would have, but that's like saying Rosie O'Donnel is hot just because she's more attractive than Margaret Thatcher. Give me a break (and a future SS preferably).

Most Valuable player: Jones

Most Valuable Oriole: Andy MacPhail. Without all the trades he's made and the players he's helped draft, we wouldn't have any Oriole playersreally worth getting excited about every day.

Dan, I'm going to agree with you and for the reasons you gave, adding that for Jonesy gets extra credit for representing the team so well at the All-Star Game.

That said, if Luke has a huge second half, I can see him being the year's MVO despite limited play in the field. Obviously, a DH needs to do a little extra to earn such honors, but the lack of a position in the field should preclude him from winning.

Old Smithwicks is a venerable brew to be sure, but tell me, lad, mightn't you have a few pints of Turner's Sticklebract Bitter squirreled away anywhere?

Dan, I'll take the same setup as Rob, but I want mine one at a time to keep them cold. Don't worry, I'll have them all finished before the lunch hour is up. Just don't look too closely at my typing this afternoon.

A number of good options available, as others have pointed out, though Scott, Jones, and Bergesen are justifiably getting the most attention. My initial thinking was between Jones and Scott, but the more I think about it the more I realize how critical Bergesen has been to the success of the Orioles this year, such as it is. He has really turned into a stopper, and even when he does not win he gives the team a chance. That has to be psychologically huge and carry over to the rest of the team.

Jones and Scott are also tough to choose between, but AJ gets the edge because A) he's played in more games (80 vs 66), and B) he's made some outstanding defensive plays to go along with his offense. Though you could have easily made the argument for Scott as the Orioles' All-Star representative based on his offensive statistics alone.

So my final ballot looks like this:
1. Bergesen
2. Jones
3. Scott
4. Markakis
5. Reimold

The Oriole Bird!

Bruce-
"Plays shallow. For those of us who have enjoyed the great and the bad of the Orioles over the years, Paul Blair was the quintessential center fielder, and he played very shallow, and got to everything that he needed to. A center fielder playing shallow in Baltimore is a great thing."

When Jones gets to everything that he needs to, let me know.

Felix Pie

Bergesen, no contest.

Ben,

I gotta differ w/you about Rosie O'Donnell being hotter that Margaret Thatcher. Even though she's a lot older, at least Margaret doesn't get mistaken for a beached sea cow.

B/t/w, Luke is definitely da man so far this year. He (and sometime Reimold) was the only one who kept hitting when everyone else, including Jones, was in the toilet with a team wide slump.

Most Valuable Oriole:
Brad Bergesen - Yes, he only pitches every 5 games, but the break that he gives the bullpen in those games helps the O's in the game or two that follows. Plus, he works quick, so the team gets a break by not being stuck out in the field as long during his games.

Runners up:
Luke Scott: He's been the only consistent (ly good) batter in the lineup for the past couple of weeks now. Yeah, he's streaky, but the streaks have come this year when the O's needed him the most.

Robert Andino: He's no offensive threat, but his defense has been excellent while filling in for Izturis. Just remember the revolving door at shortstop last season and realize that the O's could be even worse off now.

Nolan Reimold: If only for the fact that he ended the "Pie as the starting left fielder" experiment, in addition to proving quickly that he belongs in the bigs.

Honorable Mention: (Believe it or not!)
Dannys Baez: He's been lights out way more often than he's been blown up.

1) MacPhail
2) Jones
3) Scott
4) Bergesen
5)Sherrill

Robert Andino: He keep the infield intact and supplied timely hitting.

i have to go with Reimold and Bergesen because they gave life to a club that had been lifeless before their coming on board.

I was thinking the same thing Bruce said. Playing shallow reminds me of Paul Blair. He was so much fun to watch. Jones hits better. He plays center field well. Hopefully he'll develop into as good a centerfielder as Blair was.

Who is Cakes? I though that was Palmer!

O's MVP's so far
Eaton
Pie
Ray
Simon
Montanez

Mike - I see your sarcasam but Montanez was actually pretty good before he got hurt. Put Hill in the #5 spot.

sick of talking negatives about O's...focus on the POSITIVES...Mora, Ray, easy targets, but they are ours, they care. Move on

Sherrill has performed as well as anyone on the team, but it's hard to make the closer MVP when you're in last place.

So as most valuable pitcher, clearly Bergy.

And as most valuable position player/DH, clearly Scott since he's been the only live bat in the lineup. The other guys have just been scratching out hits and keeping their averages respectable.

Without pitchng nothing happens.

In order of value:
1. Bergeson
2. Scott.
3 Jones
4.Baez
5. Johnson

Luke Scott / Brad Bergesen TIE

Looks like the Orioles are just 3 pitchers away from looking eye to eye with bosox and newyoke in 2 years.

I WOULD HAVE SAID SCOTT, BUT WHEN YOU ARE BELOW .500 AND IN LAST, THERE ARE NO VALUABLE PLAYERS. IF THEY WERE SO VALUABLE, YOU'D BE WINNING MORE.

Luke

The first half MVP is the Orioles Mascot - the Bird. Need to see more of it.

The first half MVP has to be Adam Jones. We new he was going to be good at some time but he has improved so much from last year. He has been the most consistent player we have . Props to Berg and scott for a close 2 and 3