The young pitching is so bad I just hope they can avoid losing 100 games this season. As much as it hurts to say, I think we might have to try and start building the team all over again. Maybe we need to do what Pittsburgh did a few years ago and get rid of everybody and collect as many prospects as we can, just hoping eventually some of them pan out. Of course that would probably mean two or three years of over 95 losses.

I just don't see any hope. As a fan, it is a real struggle to watch.

Don't worry- the negative energy you were sending through your television couldn't have been any worse than the identical energy sent by every other long-suffering Os fan.

I love the characterization of Guerrero's play, because it is exactly right. It has gotten to the point where when the Os put runners in scoring position with no outs I think "okay how are they going to screw this up? Double-play? Strike-out looking? Bunt pop-out?"

I understand that MacPhail is simply not equal to his reputation, and totally impotent to deliver what he has promised. But why is Angelos tolerant of such historic levels of underperformance? Would he tolerate such failure from an attorney at his firm?

Heres the plan i came up with today: I think Maryland needs to condemn the Orioles like a run-down piece of real estate, and take possession through eminent domain. Then they should sell the team to its fans through an IPO, generating money for the state while creating a community-owned team like the Green Bay Packers. Next, the new Chairman needs to fire everyone currently collecting a paycheck, while trading every single player at every level of the Orioles system for draft picks (this would require a one-time exemption from MLB to trade draft picks, I realize).

The orioles could potentially end up with the top 5 or so picks in the next 5 drafts, along with all the picks that would have been theirs anyway. Then the Os would hire Ozzie Newsome as a consultant, meaning that we might finally be able to turn high picks into all-star caliber players. Oh yeah, and maybe we could actually become a presence internationally as well. I'm not sure MacPhail knows this, but I hear that there are some kids in Latin America who really know how to play ball!

The Os would forfeit every game at the major league level for 3 years while their system is replenished with all-new players. Then before their "inaugural" season the team would make it a point to make two blockbuster free agent signings, of a true ace-quality pitcher and a young slugger who can be a legitimate cleanup hitter.

Oh, we can dream can't we?

Chalk up the Guerrero signing as another one of MacPhail's mistakes, along with bringing Lee in. We can all recite many similiar blunders in prior years so no need to mention them again.
This season has all the 'potential' to be even worse than the other 13. We could even hit 100 losses;don't rule that out!
When's the last time we had a decent outing by a starter? The string of double digit losses are piling up and teams like Boston are licking their chops at the prospect of facing retreads and AAA/AA ball hurlers.
A quick glance at the schedule for the rest of July is pretty ugly and the O's could easily be 4-15 as they face solid hitting teams who have basically owned them so far.
That would bring our record to about 22 game under .500 and a sub.400 winning pct. Nice job MacPhail!!!! How's the 'plan' going-was it grow the arms/buy the bats???
I think we need to 'grow/buy' a new GM!

The only way this nightmare has any hope of ending is if Angelos sells the team.

He doesn't care about what an embarrassment this team has become. He's making money from MASN, which is all that counts.

In 13, soon to be 14, years of losing, what is the constant? Peter Angelos. We've had countless coaches, players, managers, and front office personnel, but the one constant is Angelos. And that's why this franchise is so pathetic.

Peter Angelos, please sell the O's now!!!

The Red Sox and Yankees have already voted Andy MacPhail a full playoff share.

Methinks Andy has sloganed himself into a proverbial corner, but will avert a fitting ending (being fired) only because the owner thinks he's done a wonderful job.

I have to wonder if the owner knows what it is that he actually does.

Here's what...say your wife or girlfriend or kid or somebody is home all day, and the house is a mess, every day, when you come home from work.So you wait a while to see if things change, maybe you don't know, but they might be working on a top secret government project, and don't have time to clean the house. But one day, you figure, I'm gonna ask her/him what they do all day.
So you do, and they answer, nothing, but I think you oughta hire a maid, don't you?
That's the way I look at Andy. The club is a mess, we don't know what the hell he's been doing all day, and no one is asking because the answer might be- nothing, I think you should hire a GM, don't you think?

Pete,the only way this will ever end is for Peter Angelos to sell the team to a Cal Ripken led contingent.And frankly I don't see that happening.If he passes off the scene sometime soon,I'm not sure his clueless sons will sell it either.I honestly don't see an end in sight any time soon.Pete wants AM back,and it's certainly not to build a winning ballclub,,much less a contending one.But AM sure does know how to make Pete more money which truly is the only thing he really cares about.

BTW,Pete,your previous blog headline read Apocalypse Now,it should have read Apocalypse Revisited,Part 13.Or maybe even Groundhog Day,the Sequel.We've seen this act before.

Just one request. Please MASN just show the game, sign off and go home. I can't take the analysis and worthless player interviews anymore. This team stinks and asking a player what he was thinking when he totally screwed up in the fifth inning, or worse, how do we turn this around, is getting really nauseating.

I know, I know I should turn of the TV if I don't like it.

peter i don't usually like to throw in the towell,but it might be a good idea for the orioles to just pack up and go home.a chewing out by the manager doesn't work. these gusy just do not want to play good baseball. hwo nice it would be if buck could do like sparky anderson did when he managed. if a player didn't put out or had issues with how thigs were run, he just told them to move on. yea the orioles do not have the depth that a team should have,it seems this about the only way left to send a message to the players to get with the program. i am kinda wondering if buck is second guessing himself for leaving espn and thaking the orioles managing job. it wouldn't look good on buck's resume,but i think i would resign like mark connor did and let peter the great manage the team.

At least the Os got embarrassed by a league contender. Poor Davey and the Nats got embarrassed by the Cubbies, a team with an even lower W/L pct then the Os! Tis, tis, tis!

Just before Memorial Day I bet J.J. that the Orioles would be 20 games out on August 1. Looks like I was being more optimistic than I thought.

The pom pom waivers have roasted me on this site since the offseason between 2008 and 2009 when it became clear to me that Andy Macphail was the wrong man for the job. He is about as urgent as a crawling glacier. So how do you like ol' "Grow the Arms and buy the bats" now? There is not one arm on the current major league roster that Andy is responsible for growing. The bats he has bought were passed on by 31 other teams. He and his crew of good old boys in the front office can't even find Latin America on a globe. They probably think it's the Brazilian section in south boston

How do you get to be 15 games out on July 8, and rushing towards another last place finish..... and 14 losing seasons in a row?

Just hire yourself a GM from the pliocene era, then sit back and watch.

The problem with Guerrero is that he doesn't care. He's going tjhrough the motions for a paycheck. As bad as DLee has been, he has been trying really hard and playing marvelous defense. But Vlad? Nothing.

Buck is intimidated by Guerrero. He won't even change his spot in the lineup, let alone cut him. And he is useless as trade bait. But Vlad simply must go. He is killing us.

There's really nothing left to say about this club that hasn't been said many times already this season, and also hasn't been said throughout the last 13 years. It is nothing short of amazing that with all the personnel changes, all the coaching and managerial changes, different GM's, new uniforms, and on and on, that the performance on the field is always depressingly the same. The O's must have the worst player development program in the majors. How can so many of their top prospects turn into such duds? If the Sun staff is looking for something else to write about besides just how awful the team looked "last night," how about some real insights into just what is wrong with the O's scouting and player development? I mean besides just pointing out that it's bad, we all already know that. How about trying to tie down what needs to be done? Do they need better coaches at the various minor league teams? If so, what teams and coaches are the biggest problems? Do they need better scouts? If so where do they find them, how can their scouting be improved? Whats wrong with how they choose scouts now?
I know that it has to be frustrating to write essentially the same story over and over again, it certainly is reading the same thing over and over, so how about comparing the O's minor league and player development system, point by point, with a team that is doing it well?

Pete...I still maintain this is one thing that is Buck's fault. This team as a whole has had horrible plate discipline all season. First pitch outs after hits or walks, bailing pitchers out, etc.

Buck does not appear to have addressed it at all. Even for one game, he could say "Everyone take at least one pitch/strike in every at bat, or you don't start tomorrow.". But last season's firmness and accountability seem to have gone right out the window. There's no threat of anyone losing their job if they don't execute the fundamentals.

Did you notice that Adam Jones almost took out the 2nd baseman, but Vlad was only halfway, if that, down the line ? What happened to his hustle ?
In his next ab, Guerrero, jammed again, hit another infield dribbler, and barely even jogged to first.

There is no reason for him to be on this team, or any other, for that matter. The guy is so finished, and now even he knows it. Too bad Showalter buried Jake Fox back when the season actually meant something.

Pete,

Speaking of scripts. Do you guys recycle old articles of covering the O's and just change the players/managers/GMs names? It seems to me like a waste of time to be writing anything new about the same old things.

Vlad is just the most visible clutchless Oriole, because he bats cleanup. The rest of the team, led by Lee and Andino, is just as bad at saving struggling pitchers from themselves via undisciplined at-bats against them. One guy alone doesn't go 35 for 200 with RISP.

You probably also noticed that, as usual, the Orioles didn't score free baserunners (walks, errors, bad calls), while our opponent did. We all know that, had the Orioles started an inning with two walks, the next batter would have hit into a first, maybe second, pitch DP, and the next guy would have stranded the runner at third. It's happened all season.

Andy MacPhail has built a great organization in four years . He can make good trades, but does nothing else right.

Pete; You`re 100% correct. Geurrero at this stage of his career is a sad sight to behold. He certainly doesn`t belong hitting cleanup,and at this stage should be benched or released. The O`s can stick anybody in the lineup to get an occasional single. He`s turned into a double play machine--anything on the ground is two outs.It`s getting harder and harder to watch this team play.

Without the Ravens, the next three months will be an insufferable hell for Baltimore sports fans.