To add Ohman someone will have to be dropped from the 40 man roster, will they not? Who might that be?

Did I miss something? They're gonna send Tillman down in favor of Hernandez? Is Mikililo on the dl? Is he going down?

Hernandez has outpitched Tillman for the spot. Tillman has struggled with his command. The same thing goes for Mickolio.

Both have options, and it shouldn't be a big deal to send them down to get back on track.

Also, Hernandez deserves another look at starting.

I'm just happy to see what might be the first respectable rotation for the O's since Mussina left . . . basically the first this millenium.

Yea Peter,,,,,,the rest is another loosing season,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Have you looked at the Yankees and Bosox rosters lately...................

I suggest that Guthrie be sent to
Norfolk until he gets himself strighten out. Go with 4 starters
based on Guthrie's performance last
year and this S T he doesnot deserve
to be the #2 starter.

I suggest that Guthrie be sent to
Norfolk until he gets himself strighten out. Go with 4 starters
based on Guthrie's performance last
year and this S T he doesnot deserve
to be the #2 starter.

I suggest that Guthrie be sent to
Norfolk until he gets himself strighten out. Go with 4 starters
based on Guthrie's performance last
year and this S T he doesnot deserve
to be the #2 starter.

No Moeller?

And why not just dump Guthrie so Tillman can start?

Berne: Go with 4 starters? One of these decades MLB may trend back to 4 starters. But if so, the trend will be started by an excellent team which has 4 proven durable, mature starters. Like I told my college students over and over: You may be pretty sure you're brilliant enough to invent a better way to do things, but you're not. Please follow the procedure.

berne, Guthrie doesn't have any options left, thats how the orioles got him in the first place, claimed him of wavers from the Indians

Pete, Do you think Lou Montenez goes to Norfolk, or is there a ML team looking for an extra outfielder that might scoop him up?

Have the O's talked about having him play a little middle infield at Norfolk to get him ready for a super sub role? The guy just seems to be too good of a hitter to not find a role for.

The O's haven't announced anything yet but Mickolio and Koji could both go on the DL and be left in Florida at extended spring training for rehab.

Albers is the guy pitching from the hotseat, when either guy gets healthy he sure looks to be the first to go.

About Guthrie's performance last night. Not good, but he did seem to be getting a lot of sink and run on the ball. That's what he's been struggling to find. When he overthrows his fastball stays up and is straight as an arrow. Overthrowing and overthinking seem to be his problem.

I saw him pitch live several times last year and he was pitching up with little movement. Classic case of a sinker pitcher that lost his sink and was trying to compensate by throwing harder.

Last night he showed a live sinker, but it was running out of the zone. He may well end up being a one year wonder, but seeing his ball sink and miss low could be a step in the right direction.

He's been complaining about not "feeling" his pitch. I'd suggest that he "pull something" and let him in extended spring training to work things out a little further.

Pitching out of the 2nd spot in the rotation isn't the no pressure setting that he needs to find his sinker and control it again. Let him in Florida, as soon as he's feeling it a little, give him a couple of rehabs in the minors.

Let him throw to minor leagurers who are very likely to swing and miss to help him build a little confidence.

There's got to be some middle ground approach between just trotting him out there when he's searching for his pitch and just cutting him...

Worst pitching rotation in the AL.... By far!

What a nightmare!

Lets see....
Should I believe someone named Wayne who sits in his room writing constantly provocative nonsense on his computer.....
Or lots of national publications, other GM's, other managers, and people who are and have been in the game of baseball for many many years

pretty easy choice I guess

Albers? Yuck.

No,
It's not the 83 O's or the 2010 Yankees
but it sure is the best 25 we've broken camp with in the last 12 years.
Guthrie and Albers look shaky....
But certainly the pitching depth including the minors is so far above what we've had for the last 15 years, it's pretty exciting

Guthrie should have his best season this year. With Millwood being the veteran starter the chains are off of him.

Guthrie should have his best season this year. With Millwood being the veteran starter the chains are off of him.

Hey ShamSham,

When have other GM's and managers ever not spoken highly of other clubs? See last year cool cat.

As for national pubs? You mean like Buster? And if a national reporter likes the club, does that mean we can add wins to the season before it begins?

Let's be a national reporter for fun though....

Millwood - He's your #1?
Guthrie - Toast - O's killed his career in 2009
Matusz - Huge upside. Still a rookie though
Bergy - Coming off 2 injuries - inexperienced - league will adjust
Hernadez - Nice kid - Horrid stats - limited upside

Better than 2009, a year in which Andy Mac put guys like Eaton, Hill and Simon in the rotation. 2010 will still be one of the weakest in the AL however....

Hey, at least it's honest!

It looks like Guthrie is going to be an adventure every time out. How long can the O's wait for him to find his control? I'd guess that depends on how fast Tillman solves his own problems. If Tillman starts going lights out on every team he faces in the minors, there is going to be a lot of pressure to find a place for him. I hope Guthrie finds his command and ups the pressure on everyone.
There is no doubt the pitching is better heading into this season than it has in a long while, though that's not saying much. The offense is still pretty sketchy.
We're still waiting to see Weiters and Riemold return to their end of season form, still wondering if B Rob will be durable, and still waiting to see if Atkins and Tejada have anything left.
Hopefully we'll see the offense show some continued life this last week. It would be nice to build some momentum and finish the spring with a winning streak.

The Orioles can't go with four starters because they play 19 straight games without a day off. Maybe some of you should pay attention to the real issues and stop complaining about the team. The O's are headed in the right direction. Whats up with the multiple postings?

Thanks Wayne for displaying your ignorance once again...
It's too easy really...

Guthrie should be barred from pitching when the wind is blowing out. He needs to go down to Aberdeen and work on locating his pitches beacause he hasn't been able to do that since 2008.

I'll take Tillman over Guthrie right now. Tillman hasn't proven he can get big-league hitters out yet, but Guthrie has absolutely proven that he can't.

You're welcome Shams,

And I'm sorry for being so spot on.... truth is, it's too easy, really.....

Wayne:

You ask the question about Milwood being the number one starter as if he couldn't be.

Look at last year's stats - he WAS the number one starter and the best starting pitcher on the Rangers - a team that won 87 games. Not a number one starter on the Pirates. On an 87-win team.

Now that is actually a fact. See how those work? Facts? Let's stick to them when trying to make our points.

Thanks.

When will the Baltimore Sun CUT "THE SCHMUCK"? He runs his mouth and does not believe that he should be held responsible for his STATEMENTS and/or PROCLAMATIONS.

Berne: your post wasn't any more compelling the third time I read it.

JJThomas: your post wasn't any more compelling because of the inexplicable use of ALL CAPS for NO APPARENT REASON. Stop being a dbag- Schmuck is the best thing going on this site, as evidenced by activity on his blogs. Let's at least see a better post out of you before you assign yourself the role of blog critic.

Wayne: Try to look on the bright side sometime- you'll live longer.

I actually like the situation the Os are in right now. Unlike previous seasons they have 5 major league-worthy starters and haven't had to fill 2-3 spots with fodder to be sacrificed to the big AL East bats. All 5 have shown they have the potential to be successful in the AL East, and we have Tillman working on his stuff in the minors ready to step up for whoever doesn't measure up. I would have liked the team to have put in a flier on Bedard too; in MacPhail's terms he would have added to our "inventory" for later in the year- providing insurance for injury or underperformance or offering flexibility for a mid-year trade.

But all in all I'd say this team looks better than any opening day Orioles roster in the past decade (which I know is a low bar, but we're talking baby steps here), which at this point I'll take.

As Ken said yesterday, the Orioles really need to get Guthrie going. His velocity was good last night as well as the movement on his pitches. He is still struggling with his command and so far this spring looks like he did last year. He pitches behind in the count too often, is 2 and 0 a lot and has to pitch backwards. There aren't a lot of MLB pitchers who can make a living doing that, and Guthrie's stuff is just not good enough for him to pitch from behind. I don't know what has happened to him but rarely does he go strike one, strike two to any hitters any more. He came back from a 3 and 0 count to go full just before he gave up the home run to Cano. He runs his pitch count up in a hurry and if he turns out to be a 5 and two thirds inning pitcher this year it's time to move him out of the rotation. If that happens and Tillman takes his spot, it will be awfully hard for the Orioles to win more than 70 games this year with 4 out of the 5 starters not really established. I know macphail was counting on Guthrie as a veteran starter to help stabilize the rotation but he should have added two in the offseason, not just Millwood.

So wayne,
The only national reporter/writer/publication you think has any validity is one who says something negative about the Orioles? Shocking.

Whenever someone has quoted a national media figure who says any of these
1. The Orioles are headed in the right direction
2. The Orioles have a nice collection of young talent
3. MacPhail has done a good job on the first phase of his rebuild
It's either crickets chirping from you or you say ppttttt what do they know followed by a reference to 12 years, 64 wins etc.

You're a wing nut. That's why nobody ever tries to have a point-counterpoint conversation with you on here. That's why people have no respect for your opinion. That's why you get attacked on a regular basis.

You dismiss anything positive from the media, then hang your hat on the negative for a month. You'll dismiss anything positive, then find a zero fantasy value and treat it like the word of God.

You like to say "trust me" "believe me, I know" "I get it" as if you have some type of insider information, that you're the only one who goes to games, that you're the only one who watches the games.

I don't trust you. You don't know. You don't get it. Like any other wing nut in any other subject, you only focus on what backs your narrow minded belief.

When I ripped Wayne a new one last week, he suggested that I skip past his posts. Maybe everyone should do the same?

Pete there you go playing the middle again. In one posting you said that it was a mistake for the orioles to get rid of moeller and then in this posting you said the orioles have logical reasons for keeping tatum. That is what i like about you pete.

blancione

Welcome to the blog!! :) Pete does this all the time man his orders come from MASN so he has to change up alot

blancione

Welcome to the blog!! :) Pete does this all the time man his orders come from MASN so he has to change up alot

blancione

Welcome to the blog!! :) Pete does this all the time man his orders come from MASN so he has to change up alot

Welcome to the blog, i have been taking abuse forever saying the same thing. Pete wouldn't dare argue with anything that dave t or andy does. I have just learned to go along for the ride because you can't fight a nation of orange kool aid drinkers the day is coming very soon my friend when people will realize that this plan stinks. And bringing back that lame duck manager is at the top of the list.

Say sayonara to Uehara. He won't be back. He will be the Orioles representative in Japan for future interests.

Lets see...
The Orioles are going to Hell in a handbasket because Andy's done nothing four years to fix the team.

Starting rotation- From last year when they broke camp has only one remaining starter. In the past year Bergenson and Matusz have had successful introductions to the rotation. They both show the talent to be middle of the rotation talents right now. Matusz will be a possible staff ACE for a decade.

Hernandez and Berken had rockier times last year. But low and behold, they did what you expect young guys to do when they come up, they adjusted in the offseason and worked their butts off. They came to camp and they battled, and won jobs.

Millwood was a staff Ace last year for Texas. This ain't his first rodeo...
He could care less what Wayne thinks, and sure doesn't know, or care, what his Las Vegas Fanasty Value is.(You know, that's really hard to type with a straight face) But I'm sure he'd get a good laugh about somebody using that as a reason he still can't pitch.

Since last opening day, there is a new starter at catcher, 1B, 3B, & LF. But that Andy McFail is not moving nearly fast enough.

This isn't fantasy baseball where you just compile random statistics. This is Andy's third spring training and it appears that he has completely remade this ball club to the point where Markakis and Roberts are the only holdovers.

What this young core needs now is time to grow together. What any team needs is to put together a young and talented core, mix in enough veterans to keep the kids from imploding when the going gets tough, and let them growup together.

This year is very similar to the 77' O's the spring after the Reggie Jackson trade didn't pan out, they made the big deal, and went with the kids. Much of the core of a winning roster is in place now, just like then.

Some of the peices may still be at AA & AAA and some are still to be signed or traded for. But there is a core to build around, and much of heavy lifting of this rebuilding process is done.

The Yankees have been building and rebuilding around their core of talent that came up together and started to win together back in the 90's. They went out and spent 200m in one year to get back to the series, but without that core they wouldn't have won a thing.

Philly is in the same boat, so is Boston.
Don't assemble the core, and rebuilding plans collapse time after time. Build a core and you can be successful for a decade.

The O's struggled to come up with a new plan every winter, instead they should have stuck with the same one two years in a row. The lost a decade changing directions every winter.

This team is breaking camp after McPhail's third spring training and the core is in place. There's going to be a big trade coming up this winter, but the pcs. to do it and not give up part of that core are in place already.

The only remaining big peice could be the skipper, Trembly may have been the guy to guide these guys through the tearing apart of the old roster and the introduction of the kids to the majors.
I'm still not convinced he's the guy to get them over the top.

How he handles the team this year will be his test, he's going to be expected to keep this club on a 75-85 win pace. If he falls many games under .500, he could be toast. Finding the right guy to lead this team back to respectability may be McPhail's next big challenge, the core of the club is already here.

Yo Danny in WVA

The guy who started Federal Express got a C from his teacher

Good thing he didnt listen to him

Those that can do, those who cant teach

Gil
I am not sure Guthrie is even a 5 and 2/3 inning starter anymore . Trembly better have his BP warmed up & ready before 2nd inning is done .

MountainFan
nice thoughtful posting , I agree with you on part about Trembley

"the plan" is the desperate hope that by some miracle all of the prospects turn into superstars at the same time. Unlikely, I know

Plan B

If the Yanks team plane crashed on Fenway Pk when the Sux and Rays were playing each other

Ahhhhh the beginning of the season where we too are on top in the standings and have hopes and dreams as children do. Then the season begins and the dreams become nightmares which we all know to be reality. FOX Sports at least got it right in their prediction, we are ranked 24th out of the 30. AWESOME!!!!! So tell me again about this so called progress? I like it even more since they broke down that Tejada trade that we have done nothing but gloat about, since joining the majors Matt Albers 5.51, Sarfate 5.09, Troy Patton 6.45 in Triple A, Mike Costanza hit .202 in the minors, and we just got back Tejada who has led his league in GIDP's five of the last six years. I would say that is MAJOR progress. I like every real fan know you can't wish it and think positive about it to make it happen, I look forward to another unimpressive year and the long talks of the youngsters we have that will make it happen "some day".

No disrespect to Tatum, but I really think Chad Moeller would be better suited for the backup role. Matt really seemed to get into a groove last year when Chad was his backup.

Pete, is it possible with their new bench coach being a former catcher that the O's want Matt to take his cues from him and not Chad? Other than that, I don't get this move at all.

Do all stupid comments get posted three times?

The 2010 Orioles = The 1977 Orioles?

Who is the 31-year old Jim Palmer (20-11)?

Who is the 32-year old Rudy May (18-14)?

Somebody might be the 25-year old Mike Flanagan (15-10) or the 27-year old Ross Grimsley (14-10), but not both.

Who is this year's Lee May playing first?

Who is this year's Doug DeCinces playing third?

What rookie DH is going to bang out 27 HR's like Eddie Murray?

The Orioles finished 97-64 thirty-three seasons ago.

But they did start 0-0. Now, I see the similarity.

well it like there are very few that have any thoughts of a decent season.. i for one can't wait for the season to start.. at least we have baseball.. with the way the country is going that may not be for long.. so enjoy it while you can..
i for one think the O's will play inspired ball this year.. and win more games then most think.. the key will be health.. they stay healthy they can win games..
it may take Guthrie a few games to get going but i do believe he will... and i do think 80 wins is possible! and until they show they can't win games i believe they will!

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in experienced at catcher , that is a great one ,. moller should stay,. even our no. 1 catcher has not proved to be great for a whole season. yes, this may be the best 25 they came north with in a LONG TIME>

And the Orioles ticket office expects walk-up fans to pay extra for this roster?

I thought Norfolk was in Virginia, not the Inner Harbor.

They're going to miss Reimold's bat in that lineup unless they DH him. Maybe Pie is finally coming around to being that everyday player.

That staff looks decent if they can stay healthy, log innings, and develop to where they need to be as ML pitchers.

Are we going to be in it in July? Trade deadline players coming our way would be a fantastic change.