Pete,

Your Blog is a shell of what it once was. You have a virus and my guess is you thought it would just go away. In the meantime, people are gone. Regulars like Gil, not brooks, wayne, have been replaced by imposters who somehow get their kicks in disrupting a baseball blog.

Looking back, you had a good mix. Wayne was the the one who got under peoples skin the most but I never saw an example of him crossing the line. Gil, walked the tightrope, but he was a good guy about it, and not brooks was the analytical one of the bunch. There are others that have gone elsewhere, others that all sparked a great debate, whether you like the Orioles or not.

Different people have asked for the Suns help or yours. There are different log methods and ways the Sun can lessen the nonsense. But, you've chosen not to for some reason.

I actually don't mind people coming in here under different names. Who really cares? But when people steal names in order to discredit people, then that's wrong. I've seen it happen to Chris, to wayne, to not brooks, to Gil and I've seen it happen to me. It's just wrong and it has ruined your blog.

Be certain that this will be followed up with someone being crude or someone pretending to be me or one of the names above. It's expected, but it's just not funny anymore.

I said that I was leaving as well, and for the most part, I have. I do check in hoping things have changed, but they haven't.

Good luck to you at ST Pete. Have fun down there and let's hope for the best this season.

James C,

This is a baseball blog talk about baseball... This shit is getting old man..

Peter, there was nothing journalistically wrong with the column you just wrote. Very realistic, open minded, etc. However...one of the central truths of being a real baseball fan is that every February, March, and April you get to pretend your team has what it takes to be champs. Delusional, yes. Fun, definitely. I grow weary of your constant attempts to temper enthusiasm in your columns and blogs. Like the ultimate party pooper. "Hey guys, let's not get too excited. After all, you might be (probably will be) disappointed and won't that be awful." Whenever I see a headline in the Sun that could easily have come from the mouth of Eeyore...I know immediately that you wrote it. You seem like a good guy. And you bring lots of good baseball anecdotes and info, and that's why I read your stuff. And it's not your job to be a fan. I realize that. But it's not your job to tell us how optimistic or hopeful we should be, either. You're not our dad. Stop trying to protect us. Aside from that, thanks for covering the Orioles so hardcore. Up here in Boston I grab onto any Orioles news I can get.

Hmm...two John posts in a row. Different posters, though. I thought I was the only John in the country!

John,

That's terribly unfair! This team has been so bad for so long, and Pete is simply suppose to play the optimism card, without some reservation? We've had enough of mindless commentary from the media who makes excuses for everything this club does. It's time that people are real instead of walking oriole shill zombies. If you want that, listen to Tom Davis on Saturdays.

Rob,

Thanks for responding. Yeah, I don't really mean I want the Schmuckster to start being an apologist or giving the O's leadership a break when they don't deserve it. It's just the 'tempering of enthusiasm' part that I'd like to see less of. I don't know, maybe I read too many fairy tales as a kid. But I always like to start a season focusing on the positives and thinking in terms of 'potential' instead of 'potential for disaster.'

I do, however, appreciate your view.

Rob Be fair, Tom Davis works for the Orioles, so why would he sabotage his career by saying anything bad about his employers?

Pete - good read this morning it the main article but base running has not been mentioned. This was one of the worst parts of the team last year. What is the plan to correct it. Besides getting rid old old man mora that is.

-DR

John, I hear what you're saying. I just think after 12 losing seasons, it only makes sense to be cautiously optimistic, at best. Remember, just last year the hope was for a 500 season. Then the team went out and finished 17 games under 500. What a huge let down that was. Maybe the media needs to be a little more realistic from now on, even if hope does spring eternal.

NormO's, I know what you're saying, but he really has become difficult to listen to. I understand he wants to keep his job, but isn't there something wrong with that? Can't the fans listen to their sportscasters knowing they can be objective without them losing their jobs? As it is now, everything Tom says is completely biased.

James C, I agree that this blog should be just about baseball, but I think you presented your case extremely well.

Pete,

Enjoy Florida...and bring us back a winner this time...

So what you guys are saying is that Peter should not have an opinion? Tell you all what you want to hear no matter how far fetched it might be? Just go visit MASN and see that spot that Jim Hunter and Peter did and all the flak it got for being "too homerific."

I for one like an honest approach to what the Orioles have. I am excited for the young guys and what their potential might be. I also understand that potential is not always reached and the reality of baseball injuries taking a really big chunk out of what could be expected.

Peter, you can now go to where these guys all work and tell them how they should do their jobs because after all, you know better, right?

Hey, I'd be happy to have Peter come to my place of work. My students would get a kick out of it, though they're mostly Sox fans so Peter might actually have to end up defending the O's...

"Mythical one", I guess that it would be better to stick to talking about actual baseball on a baseball blog rather than talking about the writer. And it's pretty annoying to have people tell you how to do your job. So my apologies, Pete.

So far today there is a better tone to this blog. Would lke to participate more but have been reluctant to do so based on some of the postings. Welcome to Florida Pete. Hopefully the weather warms up down here real soon. Hope you enjoy the Sarasota area.

Cuz shamrock/bill isnt here logging in as wayne and jason and dave and insulting people under their names just to get his jollies off. Twisted little attention hound. I think thats why he hates wayne so much. Not because they disagree about the direction of the team, but Pete gives wayne shout outs and shamrock cant stand it.

Peter-

Here is why this year is better.
Sort of like you said in your column, but, instead of wishing of what Rich Hill MIGHT do, we can say...if these guys breakout this year, we actually have reason to hope.
Matusz, Weiters, Tillman, and Reimold.
For instance, lets say you were bringing,
Lincecum, Mauer, Holliday, and Sabathia to camp. "That" team would be a contender with guys like Markakis, Jones, Roberts, Millwood, and Guthrie on it.
I use those 4 names from other teams because, each of the four I mentioned 1st could easily project to the same type of stats once they develop. IF it happens sooner rather than later, the O's will be in pretty good shape.

So matusz, weiters, tillman and reimold could 'easily' attain MVY and Cy Young status through development, similar to the names you mentioned?

Is it possible to hope that these four can develop into dependable major leaguers first - before over stating?

Remarkable!

James C,

It's not just the quality posters who have left, look at todays Sun Article "It's probably fair to cast the Orioles' spring roster situation as a big improvement over last year" The paper is an imposter as well. Big improvement, the only improvement I see is we have permanent spring training home. Our roster is arguable no better, only hoping that our youngsters improve but they were on last years roster.

Atkins, Tejada and Millwood, are they really improvements over Huff & Mora. I don't think so! Millwood is 35 and won 13 games for a team that averaged 7.6 runs a game that he started, I guess those big bats that Andy was going to buy us will make up those 4.5 runs a game?????

I'm sorry but AM and PA have again sold us a bad bill of goods and Sun continues to act as an enabler by saying we've had big improvements to our roster! How do these people say these things with a straight face, were destined for last place, the players have got to be sick and I hope Koji isn't showing the rest of the team any Hari-Kari moves for when we're 15 out by mid June!

The fact we brought DT back signalled to me that the warehouse had thrown in the towel, and I have too!

The truth will set you free!

Ryan,

I try to be an optimist like the next guy, but you're talking about 3 of the top players in the entire game.

Most say Tillman should still be learning in AAA, and you have him up there as one of the top pitchers in mlb.

I'm excited about these four guys, but as Anonymous said above, let's hope they become consistent major leagues before we anoint them as four of the best players in the game.

Keith... you keep saying the truth will set you free, but you fail to take the time to look at "the truth".

Millwood went at least 5 innings in 29/31 starts (he left KC in the 2nd hurt). The O's had pitchers fail to complete 4 innings 25 times last year. Thus, about 15% of their games last year were over shortly after they started.

The Rangers put up 29 runs in his 10 losses. Not exactly getting helped by big offense there.

The in the 8 games the Rangers scored 9 or more runs for Millwood, he allowed a total of only 18 earned.

Millwood isn't winning a Cy YOung this year, but he should provide stability in a young rotation AND... he's playing for his last big payday.

Also...

Tejada is better than Mora (at this point in Mora's career).

Atkins may work out, or he might not. We'll see. Its still only 2-14. But, he's the best option they had (and Tejada), since the FA market was completely devoid of corner talent (btw.. Figgins wasn't coming here)

Ideally the youth develops further and takes a step forward.

They aren't starting the season w. Hendrickson, Koji, Eaton and that other guy in the rotation (then Berken, then Hernandez). Koji should be big help in long relief this season.

Trembly's not awful. Not great, but not awful. He probably won't be there in 2011, so cool your jets, you will get what you want.

Are they winning the pennant this year? Nope, but they should be a heck of a lot better than in '09 when they ran 48 players out onto the field throughout the season.

Everyone likes to bash the team with out making legit suggestions in return. It's like listening to uninformed women talk about sports... "They need better players" "They need to stop sucking!"

I apologize for being and apologist. The truth has set me free!!!!!!

It's true that Peter has sadly chosen to allow the junior high school stuff go on in his blogs, but I don't see where his own writing has suffered.

If you read the Ravens blog today that virtually apologizes for that sportswriter goon in Cleveland who's intent is to keep Art Modell out of the Hall of Fame until he is dead, as well as falling for that old and discredited theory that the Modell and Irsay situations were similar, you will want to barf on the spot.

The matiurity level in this blog has been brought into the gutter by the posters, not the writer. In the Ravens Insider apology for Irsay, it is the writer himself who has chosen the slop.

Real men recognize losers when they see them, whether it is the 2010 Orioles or the planted shills on the blog.

Shamrock,

I can certainly understand why some feel Millwood isn't all that. keith is correct about the run support he received, and his 07' and 08' stats are beyond concerning, especially knowing he's in a much tougher division, and with a team that has a difficult time scoring runs.

Saying there were no better options at 1B is just not so. LaRoche for one would have been a huge upgrade over Atkins. The numbers simply speak for themselves, especially the 2009 numbers.

I agree with you. They should be a heck of a lot better than last year. As Pete mentioned in his column though, that's not a tall task given the failed 2009 season.

As for the truth? It probably lies someone between what both you and Keith are both saying.

MIllwood '09 vs. AL East teams (minus Baltimore)

April 23 @Toronto 7.0 INN 5 H 4 ER 2 BB 3 SO 116 pitches - Loss

May 26 vs New York 5.2 INN 9 H 3 ER 4 BB 3 SO 98 pitches - No Decision

June 5 @ Boston 7.0 INN 7 H 0 ER 4 BB 5 SO 117 pitches - Win

June 11 vs. Toronto 7.2 INN 5 H 0 ER 1 SO 105 pitches - Win

July 20 vs. Boston 6.0 INN 6 H 2 ER 1 BB 3 SO 111 pitches - Win

August 14 vs. Boston 5.2 INN 3 H 1 ER 5 BB 4 SO 110 pitches - No Decision

August 25 @ New York 5.2 INN 7 H 5 ER 5 BB 2 SO 110 pitches - Win

September 26 vs. TB 7.0 INN 7 H 2 ER 2 BB 2 SO 110 pitches

Sorry, left out September 26 vs. Tampa was a Win for Millwood.

This thing with Laroche is, why wasn't anyone else beating down his door to sign him? As for the O's, he's pretty much Luke Scott, but he can field and can't hit lefties. Also, did Laroche really want to come here?

I would like to see Aubrey make the team over Wigginton... You know what you are going to get out of Wigginton, but Aubrey deserves a shot. Trade Wiggy for some Outback gift cards.

PS- Jason... real men can talk baseball like grown ups, cool guys like yourself make drama on the internet. Glad to help you get through the day!!!

Yeah Chris... best to leave out the O's...

They got to him for 5 in 5... ha!

His run support was fest or famine... he pitched well enough to win 18, but the Rangers only seemed to blow teams out when he gave up 3 or less ERs.

Interested to see what team AM can snake oil him to for a pile of prospects in July!

Interesting about Millwoods stats against the East. No question he's not a #1 at this point of his career though. Overall, he's respectable. The Orioles are in fact better this year mainly because Andy hasn't brought in terrible players like he did in 09', although Atkins could fit that role.

Peter: Well done!! The Orioles are marginally better than last year but we will know for sure come October 5. I think the best we can expect is 73 wins and the worst is 65 wins.

I think with a bad first half Dave Trembly will be history. I not sure if the guy has a chance of managing the O's after all-star-break. Mcfail has told us there will be no excuses and that means to me that he thinks this team is competitive and on par with the Yanks and the Sox, ha.

I do not know waht he sees? We will see!!!! He must have told many Cub fans the same thing for several years.

Frustrated fan

With 3 blizzards this winter the Orioles should win the world series this year! Look at their track record - 1966, 1979, 1983 and 1996 (almost). That is the hope that I am holding onto this spring. Come on, the blizzards have to be good for something - LOL!

With 3 blizzards this winter the Orioles should win the world series this year! Look at their track record - 1966, 1979, 1983 and 1996 (almost). That is the hope that I am holding onto this spring. Come on, the blizzards have to be good for something - LOL!

Debbie,

SInce the team is obviously challenged in so many ways, that's as good a logic as any I've heard. If overall talent won't get them there, blizzard fate may do the trick!

Yahoo headline: Budding MLB star hurt filming commercial, will be late to spring training. I wonder which pitcher the article went on to vilify and thoroughly mock? Woe is the Orioles....national coverage for all of the wrong reasons.

ryan has been smoking that good stuff

Pete, I think you've done a good job of balancing a guarded optimism with the uncertainty of handicapping a team with so many youngsters in key positions.

Barring significant injuries I don't see how the Orioles can help but have a better season; the question is: How much better?

This week spring begins for me when pitchers and catchers report regardless of how much snow is on the ground and much more so for you, who get to break out your Florida wardrobe.

If you happen to be in Punta Gorda (just down the coast from Sarasota) this spring, stop by the Village Oyster Bar for good food and a nice view of Charlotte Harbor from just about any place in the restaurant.

Pete,

If you could delete any message with my "Name" that hasn't used the same email address that I have for the last 8 months and also the one I contacted you with, that'd be great.

Someone's gone through the effort of sounding a lot like me, but unless I've had a psychotic break, it's not me.

Peter,

Are the Orioles allergic to obtaining a big league home run hitter? What I am talking about is a player that has the potential to hit one out of the ball park on every at bat. Sure, you have to live with the strike outs and double play grounders but this is a major need that the Orioles have failed to address. To think Luke Scott or our line up by committee is going to solve this problem is foolish. That big bopper is missing and will continue to be a thorn in the side of the Orioles offense.

HR hitters cost money, thus the reason for their absence. You'll shut up and like what you get.

Go watch the Nats, I make money off of them too.

I truly believe that Wiggy will be traded during spring training. There are numerous NL teams that have unresolved situations at 3B like the Cards so Wiggy would be their Adam Eaton.

Looking at the list of players still on the open market, it drives me crazy that the O's don't sign Felipe Lopez. Lopez can play 3B, 2B and SS plus he is a solid hitter and certainly would be a huge upgrade over Andino.

Does anyone know if the O's have hired someone to replace Buck? This is like when the O's traded Bradford and it took 3-4 months before it was announced it was for cash considerations.

Real men shovel snow, not sh*t like Shamrock.

As ye sow so shall ye reap.

Bring it on cool guy, I got rid of wayne and Ill get rid of you too

This is my blog, you are all just my guests

Show yourself and be vanquished

Since there is nothing new to report, I thought I would take on The Flake Theory of Oriole Success. (When I say "take it on," I mean the way a proper scientist would -- check the facts, report the results. What I don't mean is check the facts and if the results aren't what I wanted/expected, I distort the facts/distort the reporting/find other facts that fit the model/hide from public view until my agenda can be asserted or reasserted.)

SNOW BY SEASON:

#1 - 1995-96: 62.5 inches / Orioles: 88-74 (second place in 5-team AL East, 4 GB; defeated CLE, lost to NYY as a wild card; offseason signings were Clay Bellinger, Randy Myers, BJ Surhoff, Bill Ripken; offseason trade Sherman Obando to MON for Tony Tarasco; inseason signings were Luis Polonia (later released), Todd Frohwirth; inseason trade: Gregg Zaun to FLA for Terry Mathews)

#2 - 2009-10: 60.4 inches (so far) / Orioles: 0-0 (so far in 5-team AL East; notable offseason signings: Armando Gabino (later demoted to Norfolk), Craig Tatum, Mike Gonzalez, Garrett Atkins, Miguel Tejada; notable offseason trades: Chris Ray to TEX for Kevin Millwood (and cash))

#3 - 2002-03: 58.1 inches / Orioles: 71-91 (fourth place, 30 GB in 5-team AL East; offseason signings: Bill Pulsipher, Omar Daal, BJ Surhoff; inseason signing: Sean Spencer; inseason amateur draft: Nick Markakis)

#4 - 1963-64: 51.8 inches / Orioles: 97-65 (third place, 2 GB in 10-team AL; offseason trades: Jim Gentile (and cash) to KCA for Norm Siebern, Buster Narum to WSH (3/31/64) for Lou Piniella (8/4/64))

#5 - 1898-99: 51.1 inches / Orioles: 86-62 (fourth place, 15 GB in 12-team NL; offseason transaction: owner Harry Von der Horst bought controlling interest of the Brooklyn Bridegrooms (became the Superbas, who won that year, and eventually would become the Dodgers) and moved his star players and future HOF manager, Ned Hanlon, to BRK; afterseason transaction: NL contracted, Orioles disbanded)

If you are more interested in snow storms than seasonal snowfall, here's the list of the top 20 not including the two of this season:

http://weblogs.marylandweather.com/2010/02/baltimore_headed_for_seasonal.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weather_blog+%28Maryland+Weather+blog%29

1983 does appear as fourth when adding this year's storms, but 1966 is relegated to 17th place. Years to look up if you so desire are:

1892 (10th, 1st year in NL)
1899 (7th and 20th, already done for you)
1900 (18th, no Oriole team as NL team was disbanded and AL started in 1901)
1922 (2nd, International League Orioles)
1933 (21st, was really 12/17-18/32, IL O's or Black Sox)
1942 (6th, IL O's or Elite Giants)
1958 (11th)
1961 (13th, was really 12/11-12/60)
1962 (15th)
1964 (22nd)
1979 (9th)
1987 (16th)
1993 (19th)
1996 (5th)
2000 (12th)
2003 (1st)
2006 (14th)
2010 (3rd and 8th, the latter really 12/18-19/09)

See what you did Debbie?
waspman, did you really just do that?
Who does that?

Talk to the hand Shamrock, or to yourself and your 12 other screen names. This is not your blog. Don't delude yourself. It is the people's blog. Some have chosen not to participate until the blog owner can restore order and deter internet terrorists like yourself from rudely interupting what was a spirited but social discourse among baseball fans. I reviewed the chaos that you created on the blog over the weekend. The dozens of decent people who no longer participate will return when blog owner rids the blog of vermin like you.

The suns shines on a different dog's ass every day.

I agree w/ SHAM that Aubrey should make the team over Wigginton. Unless the O's plan for Scott to play some first base, Aubrey as a lefty makes sense as a backup for Atkins.

I hope that Todd is right about Wiggy being traded. And i agree (obviously) that F. Lopez would be a valuable upgrade over Andino. Andino's ss defense might be a little better, but i doubt his offense will ever improve to a major league level. He doesn't keep his back foot planted when he swings.

real cute Jason, good thing you got a little sleep in there.

What in God's name are you talking about? You make less sense than a Nigerian money scam email. But, as long as it makes sense in your mind, enjoy yo self...

jason, next time you post as SHAMROCK, or anyone else, a la your 4:56 am post, you may want to consider using things like apostrophes. The "Ill" gives it away that it's you.

Or instead you could just grow up, stop attacking people on Pete's blog and start talking about baseball. Just a thought...

Bad news for you shamrock

Im not real men of genius, apparently you got more enemies than you know what to do with. I took the day off from the blog yesterday. Obligations with the little woman

When it comes to this crap. U can only lose because u care way more than I do. WHomever cares the least has the upper hand--kinda like relationships, but u wouldnt know about that yet little fella

U still cant figure out writing styles ? I guess thats why u thought no one would figure u out. Poor little shamrock-- not too bright

I have my disagreements with the macfailers but i never wanted anyone to leave. I can fight my own battles, I dont need to be an imposter and instigate fights like a 12 yr old school girl. Glad u think its funny. Its not very clever but it seems to be effective at getting rid of ppl who threaten you

I think its clear and youve said repeatedly that ppl who are too smart to fall for AM's BS should stop posting. well you've gotten your way briefly, see how it all turns out for you spanky. Ill laugh my ass off is someone manages to track your ass down--its not out of the realm of possibility.I hope they video it. if they do

Once again. "CHris W" jumps to defense for SHAMROCK, either he's got a little thing for him or maybe we found yet another one of SHAMROCK's aliases.They watch the same movies, watch the NHL together and are always here at the same time. LOL

Unbelievable, this guy has got like 5 names he uses on a regular basis. Apparently Chris is the one he wants to keep because he tries to keep the fights to the minimum on that log in, yet "Chris" cant help himslef from coming to shamrocks defense every chance he gets.

This has to be the 10 th time in a row, I find myself dealing with the "chris" and shamrock tag team. It Sure is funny how that happens. Time is the enemy of the imposters--LMAO

Caring the least, little man, caring the least. I cant even imagine talking in game strategy with u dopes when its abundantly clear, you've never done anything remotely athletic in your life

U guys are emasculating on common sense, I cant even fathom discussing the finer points, probably akin to setting one's hair on fire

Dear Trolls,

http://wnst.net/wordpress/drewforrester/2010/02/14/it-takes-20-minutes-the-internet-critics-and-people-in-disguise/

a) Who the hell is Chris W? I'd actually like to know how you came up with that.

b) I don't watch hockey. Don't care for it. Or basketball for that matter. Fun to play, not so much to watch.

c) Yeah, you obviously "don't care." That's why you just spent so many words explaining your fantasies.

d) "U guys are emasculating on common sense, I cant even fathom discussing the finer points, probably akin to setting one's hair on fire" ...you don't really understand the meaning of words, do you?

e) Look up the term "projection" as it relates to psychology. It relates to almost every single one of your posts. You might just have a breakthrough today after all, jason!

This is a better post regarding crazy posters... it was linked in the NST article. I don't care for Nestor or the station much, but the article made sense.

http://masnsports.com/2010/02/my-turn-to-vent.html

Jason... You got me on the Real Men of Genius. Send me your mailing address, you have a few $50 Outback Gift Cards coming your way for your tireless efforts.

Now seeing that we're in a who cares more contest. Here goes...

1. You write like a 9/11 conspiracy theorist... about a baseball team.

2. You have spent hours on end talking to yourself with various witty (in your mind) names to create some sort of debate... on a baseball blog website.

3. You openly swear on a baseball blog website. In fact you tried to get me to swear until 3am to prove that I wasn't someone else or for some reason. I still haven't figured that one out.

4. You taunt other posters... on a baseball blog website. You even went on a tirade at Peter Schmuck once, then apologized for it all in a matter of a few hours.

5. You talk about comparing writing styles and outing impostors... on a baseball blog website.

6. You post things at all hours of the night... on a baseball blog website

7. You constantly repeat yourself even though what you say is wrong, or bent out of context. Just because A and B are present, doesn't mean C will happen, or was caused to happen.

8. You are psychotically negative. If you care enough to bitch, you care well enough.

9. You care enough to allege six people on this site, who disagree with you, are the same person. Then, you post under their names to create a fight, then allege that they are doing the same against you! All of this.. on a baseball blog website.

10. In saying you didn't care as much as others, you wrote a good 10 paragraphs about it. All this as you create more drama by alleging two people 6 time zones apart are the same person. You didn't even get who I was talking to about hockey right, oh, but that is evidence that you don't care as much, right?

My favorite bit in the WNST Blog was about the use of LOL and the lack of a funny statement associated with it. Hmm... sounds familiar, "Insert angry MacPhail comment" then LOL!!!

What I care about is talking sports on a baseball blog website... not creating drama on a baseball blog website. That and stomping Sucker MCs like yourself. If you think you are egging me on somehow, you're not, you just sound like an idiot and clog up the board with your nonsense.

But keep going, we both know who's coming unhinged and who isn't... and who's life revolves around this and who's doesn't... Glad to be a special part of your day cool guy.

oh.. missed the "you've never played sports, game strategy" comment. Played everything but basketball and football growing up. Also played club hockey in college and men's league after that. Even refereed an coached a little. That argument is as idiotic as saying someone can't debate foreign military policy if they've never served.

Thats interesting coming from the person who doesn't talk about anything on field (such as game strategy).

Look forward to opening day and debating the evil and cheap Andy MCFAIL... uhh... I mean game strategy with you... can't wait to hear the gems you come up with out of your years experience on the field!!!!

1) Ty Wigginton can play 1B/2B/3B/SS(in a pinch), LF/RF. Micheal Aubrey cannot. Wigginton has hit 20HR or better in the majors before. Aubrey has not hit 20HR in the minors.

2) Felipe Lopez cannot play SS worth a lick, his offense is hit or miss, and he is a horrible teammate and the Nationals couldn't wait to get rid of him. He won't be happy as a bench player at all.

3) I was part of a crowd that was in favor of bringing Adam LaRoche here, but when given the option for the same amount of money, LaRoche decided he wanted to play in Arizona. You shouldn't have to overpay to get a mid tier talent like LaRoche to sign with you and I am glad the Orioles didn't up their offer if he really didn't want to play here anyway.

4) Frank Thomas didn't plant his back foot when he swung, and there have been a lot of front foot swingers over the years. Some guys just have the talent to hit, and others don't. So far Andino never has shown much.

hmmm... some good points, especially the Frank Thomas reference.

And Andino certainly way better defensively, which many teams value more from a utility guy, but i'd still take Aubrey over Wigginton.

Being right handed, there's just not enough a/b's for Wiggy, unless someone gets hurt. And Aubrey can spell both Tejada and Atkins against righthanders, ( if Atkins moves to third on occasion ), or perhaps even platoon with Atkins if Atkins struggles.

Shamrock, if u dont care about creating drama on a website, why do u pretend to be wayne just to say offensive things ?

Y do u create aliases to agree with yourself and attack other posters

Do you think your denial is convincing ? no one expects u to man up and admit it. You freak

Yeah, i did go off on schmuckie, but i manned up and apologized, although I doubt you'll have enough class to do the same

keep denying it though, its really is believable. I sure "chris" and "paulie" have your back like they always do. I mean its realistic to think ppl have time to always fight other ppl's flame wars in cyberspace. thats not odd at all. the fact that there is a 5 or 6 hr time difference and u are always posting at the same time all of the time isnt unusual

your childish antics have had the opposite of their intended effects

Youre not fooling anybody

You're obsession with me is a little creepy. I definitely prefer the ladies-

Ypu played sports ?? laugher there, Im sure u got trophys for participation with that unrelenting competitive fire u display about winning LOL LOL LOL

It sure is funny that an apologist is citing drew forester so much when his article perfectly describes you. Keep trying to play if off though. Accusing people of being conspiracy theorists works if u ignore all of the evidence that surrounds you, but it doesnt, so keep doing it

What the hell are you talking about? Do you drink a lot and get on the cpu?

What am I denying that isn't convincing?

Why would I pretend to be Wayne? I have better stuff to do with my time.

His article was addressing people who are negative because of their environment. That and he quoted Roch's article that laid into the negative for the sake of being negative (people flipping out on the Will Startup signing, etc)

Putting you in your place is childish? Pointing out what is wrong with you in a clear and coherent post that does not resort to name calling or cursing is childish?

So... because I addressed your drama I am now creating drama?

In effect, you stayed up until 1:33am to basically turn what I wrote about you back on me. Good retort, you basically said, na ah, you do that!

and...uhh... err... yeah... I played sports!!! I had a glove and everything!!!

PS- since you didn't read the Forrester article, go back and read the part about "LOL". When you use "LOL" you are supposed to be saying something FUNNY. Not something that is UNFUNNY.