Ravens can only look in the mirror
The game ended when Tom Zibkowski intercepted Ben Roethlisberger and returned the ball to a place where the Ravens would have had a great opportunity to score, but the officials called Frank Walker for illegal contact even though Big Ben had scrambled out of the hold of Trevor Pryce and appeared to be out of the pocket.
You could lip read John Harbaugh, who was yelling at the officials to "read the rules,'' but that was that. The Steelers were able to kneel it out at that point.
If that was all that happened, maybe you could pin this one on the officials, but the Ravens ran up triple digits in penalty yards and most of the time, the replays confirmed the penalties, which confirmed that the Ravens remain a very undisciplined team.






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Some of the Ravens calls were legit, but do you seriously expect that the Steelers didn't have one single offensive holding or "illegal contact" ALL game long?
Ravens defenders were rodeo tackled, pushed in the back and held all game long while Big Dumb Ben was running around like an idiot in the pocket.
Also, Flacco's knee was not on the ground when he was called for the sack, PLUS, there was a clear blow to his head on that play.
And Heap was armbared to death on his TD.
It is NOT just the calls against the Ravens that was the problem. It was the complete and total, blatent and obvious refusal for the refs to call anything against the Steelers unless it was offsides or ripping someone's helmet off.
Posted by: Paul Hamilton | December 27, 2009 4:32 PM
Microcosm of the entire season
Posted by: logiopath | December 27, 2009 4:38 PM
I understand Dan Rooney is having the officials over to his house tonight for some Irish coffee.
Stupid game by the Ravens but it truly hurts to see Big Ben get bailed out of a disastrous mistake by friendly officiating.
Posted by: Dan | December 27, 2009 4:38 PM
Frank Walker is the worst defensive player on this team and has been all season long (from what I saw, he was terrible in pre-season too and probably shouldn't have made the team). I realize that with the injuries to Washington and Webb, we are digging deep into the depth chart now. But all season long, Walker's only move has been pass interference/holding/illegal contact. I would have put Ivey on Wallace instead of Walker, or at least I would have made the switch at halftime. Because how much worse could Ivey have been?
I still think the Ravens will win next week and make the playoffs by virtue of tiebreakers, but I don't think they'll win any games in the playoffs with these cornerbacks. The injury to Webb ruined their chances of making a run.
Posted by: Albie | December 27, 2009 4:49 PM
The replays confirmed the penelaties???? Are you serious? I agreed with the rediculous Cousins personal foul and the stupid block in the back by Suggs on the Foxworth TD, but the Washington hold on the Mcgeehee TD was total phantom. The defender turned himself around on a clean block and threw his hands in the air for flag and got it. Also the inelligable man downfield. As well as 75% of the illegal/contact slash pass interference. I don't see how you can say that Ben wasn't out of pocket after he escaped the Price sack.
In my opinion on the last third and 10 with 1:45 left, the officials predetermined that the Stellers would get a first down to end the game. Nevermind that Ben was out of the pocket, but it was a very chippy call in the first place.
With the current rules in place, especially the illegal contact rule and the quarterback protection rules. the game has become a mockery of what pro football always was and should be.
Have you ever noticed the reason why the Ravens lose most of their close games? If they don't put the other team away early and it's even remotely close in the 4th the officials go ballistic on us with rediculous penalties like today. Especially when you're taking points off the board or on a game changing play like the Zbikowski interception at the end. I'm certainly not a conspricy theorist and I try as much as possible to be objective while watching the game, so I'm really at a loss for what continues to happen over and over and over again out on the field.
In short I've come to the conclusion the the league and the officials have no credibility whatsoever and it simply makes me not want to watch or give them any of my money anymore.
Posted by: djph | December 27, 2009 4:51 PM
Note to Derick Mason: When the football is coming straight at your face mask you may want to tilt your head a little.
That way a half dozen of the Ravens bonehead plays wouldn't have even happened and we may have actually won the game.
Mediocre play by a mediocre team.
Oh, Fire Harbaugh, or at least by him a watch.
Posted by: Bob F. | December 27, 2009 4:52 PM
Discipline is the responsibility of the coaches. Ngata was flagged a couple weeks ago for a late hit. No one coaches that man?
Frank Walker is the responsibility of the Ozzie and the defensive backs coach. Aside from the holding, he was also doing his best phantom impersonation on the Steelers late touchdown drive to end the first half. A safety as a cover seems more logical at this point.
Posted by: Gary | December 27, 2009 5:04 PM
Just another example of the ridiculously biased officiating... "Illegal contact and defensive holding will continue to be strictly enforced. After five yards, if a receiver attempts to
evade a defender, the defender cannot make contact that impedes the receiver in any way, AS LONG AS THE QB IS IN THE POCKET WITH THE BALL. Grabbing the jersey or any other part of a receiver’s uniform is a foul for defensive holding
and will be called. The only time defensive holding will not be called is if the ball is already in the air to another receiver.
When an official sees illegal contact, he will LOOK TO THE QUARTERBACK. If the quarterback is OUT OF THE POCKET or if the ball is
already in the air to another receiver, illegal contact WILL NOT BE CALLED." Straight from the NFL rules changes, on that last play, no way Roethlisberger was in the pocket. The Ravens have no chance when officials continue to modify rules and make calls to their own desires. And like several people have said, even more than the calls are consistently made on us, its the fact that the Steelers went that entire game without a holding or block in the back call, some were so obvious with jersey holding and tackling its just absurd that the calls were not made. I have now come to the only logical conclusion at this point, the NFL is rigged, just like the NBA. (Tim Donaghy anyone?)
Posted by: Joel | December 27, 2009 5:24 PM
Let's face it...the NFL wants their "Golden Boys" in the playoffs. First the Packers game and then the Ravens game.....penalties bailed out poor defense and poor decisions by the QB.
Every positive Ravens play in the 2nd half was flagged.....it was unbelievable.
Posted by: Kurt | December 27, 2009 5:34 PM
I feel the Ravens reputation for penelties prejudges us on pass interferance calls. For the Steelers to not have any holding or pass interferance penalties is ridiculous. I truely feel the Ref's stole this game from the Ravens.
Posted by: jimmy schenk | December 27, 2009 5:40 PM
Of course the games are fixed. They have been for years. But, we keep watching. We can't help ourselves, and the NFL knows it. The NFL---The National Fixed League!
Posted by: BobbyWoontz | December 27, 2009 5:43 PM
I thought the last penalty against the Ravens was a bad call but that said the Ravens gave the game away. Some of the penalties were just plain stupid. No discipline and that goes to coaching. The Ravens fans shouldn't blame the refs they should blame the Ravens for stupid stupid penalties. And the Ravens play calling particularly on first down leaved a lot to be desired. yes the Ravens lost the game more than the Steelers won the game. May the Schmuck be with you.
Posted by: fkterp | December 27, 2009 5:48 PM
Its the way it is.
Pittsburgh are the darlings. Deal with it.
The Ravens are just good enough to lose close games.
Flacco plays slow in big games. Tempo way off, holds the ball , no mobility.
Derrick Mason...dont think we care if you retire this year. Time to move on. Nice career but unforgettable and forgivable drop. way worse than Claytons cause much easier catch.
And yes Harbaugh aint showin a damn thing to me.
Posted by: Ted | December 27, 2009 5:49 PM
Unforgivable.....sorry
Posted by: Ted | December 27, 2009 5:50 PM
Pete, Why can't Ozzie just cut Frank Walker and sign C-Mac for the last game? If we don't at least get rid of Walker it will probably be the last game of this season. Harbaugh said last week that he signed Ivy because he can play the slot whereas C-Mac is an outside corner. Well, how about that hail mary down the sideline in the outside corner area with less than a minute left in the first half? No way that a respectable corner or safety can allow the receiver to catch that ball. Was Walker the only one surprised that the ball was thrown down the field on 3rd and forever! Oy Oy Oy. Draft nothing this offseason but cornerbacks and wide receivers.
Posted by: Overmyboots | December 27, 2009 5:50 PM
I thought the last penalty against the Ravens was a bad call but that said the Ravens gave the game away. Some of the penalties were just plain stupid. No discipline and that goes to coaching. The Ravens fans shouldn't blame the refs they should blame the Ravens for stupid stupid penalties. And the Ravens play calling particularly on first down left a lot to be desired. Yes the Ravens lost the game more than the Steelers won the game. May the Schmuck be with you.
Posted by: fkterp | December 27, 2009 5:51 PM
Those blaming Harbaugh are pathetically stupid people.
Your ignorance when it comes to football is rivaled only by your ignorance in life.
Posted by: wayne | December 27, 2009 5:53 PM
The players have to be held accountable for penalties as well. The coaches can preach lack of penalties til they're blue in the face. They can fine the players all day long, but the player himself has to perform on the field. An over matched/undisciplined player will always commit penalties no matter what. How do we know what goes on behind closed doors? Are we in weekly Ravens practice? These guys may commit penalties even if a firing squad was waiting for them on the sidelines....Give the coaching staff a break.
Posted by: Kurt | December 27, 2009 6:01 PM
Um, Wayne, did you watch this game? I think you are the ignorant one in life trying to psychologize life and football. Who's to blame for the Ravens committing over a hundred yards in penalties at week 16 of an NFL season. I think this says alot about the coach and the coaching staff. Furthermore, let's talk about time management. How many times did Flacco have to call time out because we didn't have the play set after a penalty and the play clock was about to run out. Finally, what was Harbaugh thinking in putting Frank Walker in the game? You know, it's the ignorant people like yourself that write stupid things and you probably didn't graduate high school. Now that's psychology for your ass.
Posted by: Roland | December 27, 2009 6:09 PM
Rooney was one of the founding fathers of the National Football League. All of the founding fathers were gambling men holding ownership in thoroughbred race tracks or casinos.
The NFL acts like it has nothing to do with gambling. No reason to give it an imprimatur when all the action is already there.
What we saw today is not unlike what has been going on all along. The refs made it clear that the Steelers were to win this game.
Hey, Jai-Alai, anyone?
Six Rings--Why are are you so proud of the condition of your bathtub and shirt collar?
Posted by: Barry | December 27, 2009 6:10 PM
Please quit blaming the refs!!!! Ravens had chances to make plays to put the game away and couldn't do it. On the INT (3rd quarter), should have been pass interference but not called, Ravens get a FG, then Mason fumbles and the call is no catch (ref blew whistle too early). Ravens had their chances and breaks. They got beat by the better team with the better QB.
Posted by: sportnut | December 27, 2009 6:35 PM
I would love for someone to review the whole field on each play, calculate the number of penalties that could be called against each team, determine ratio of callable versus called penalties and then score those for each team.
Then as a bonus calculation, total the number of yards allowed versus the number of yards taken away...
The numbers would probably show the Ravens get called for so many penalties because they are commiting them at a higher rate.
What is worse though, is when the penalty is called...
Posted by: Gee Willikers | December 27, 2009 6:39 PM
Now for the cherry on top. The Jets are going to slip into the playoffs with victories against the Colts (who have benched their starters) and the Bengals (next week when Cinci will have nothing to play for).
Ravens had everything to play for today and managed to give the game away. They have the 4th best point differential in the AFC and there is a very good chance they will miss the playoffs.
Blame their #1 receiver for dropping a gimme TD.
Blame Hauschka
Blame the secondary
Blame Flacco
Blame Ozzie
Blame the coaches
Blame the refs
At least we know it isn't Schmuck's fault!
Posted by: Dan | December 27, 2009 6:40 PM
[bold]which confirmed that the Ravens remain a very undisciplined team.[/bold]
and this falls squarely on the shoulders of John Harbaugh. You are not a legit head coach in the NFL if you can't control what your team does on the field.
Harbs in a nice guy, make a great neighbor. He is not a good NFL coach and will be let go within 3 years.
Posted by: LouieNCanton | December 27, 2009 6:59 PM
Roland,
You're 12, right? That's ok... it really is!
Suggs, the 65 million dollar man was called for a penalty that brought a td back. He may be the dumbest, most uncoachable player in the league.
Mason dropped a td pass... it hit him in the facemask. Harbaughs fault - lol!
Your stupidity is matched by.... oh never mind, you wouldn't understand!
Posted by: wayne | December 27, 2009 7:01 PM
Wayne,
You may have missed what was probably a technical error, which deleted the main part of your post in which you explained how the Raven's lost today.
If you are as insightful when it comes to football as you are about baseball and the Orioles, I suspect you have all the answers.
Posted by: jOHN ARMIGER | December 27, 2009 7:40 PM
Shmucker,
Youve' never cheered for the Eagles as hard as you did today, have ya?
Posted by: Frank | December 27, 2009 7:50 PM
John,
It doesn't take a genious!
If the Ravens win next week, Harbaugh is 2 for 2 in making the playoffs. Any team will take such in league made for parity.
We had no right tackle, started a 3rd string corner and a backup safety.
Suggs, one of the highest paid players commits a bonehead penalty (again) and Mason, our best receiver, dropped a sure TD.
And Harbaugh is being blamed. It's ridiculous, ignorant and laughable!
Posted by: wayne | December 27, 2009 7:57 PM
note to barry in regards to rooney. the rooney who bought the team in the 1930's was art rooney who has been dead for several years. the navens self destructed. that's it. 113 yds in stupid unacceptable penalties and 3 turnovers
Posted by: fkterp | December 27, 2009 8:03 PM
What are the tiebreaker scenarios for the playoffs? According to this site (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ar8RndBU2R5e5BU1BfnRQr85nYcB?slug=ys-09playoffpicture&prov=yhoo&type=lgns), the Ravens are sitting at 7 behind Denver at 6 based on common opponent record. But wouldn't head-to-head put the Ravens in over the Broncos?
Posted by: Kirby | December 27, 2009 8:09 PM
What are the tiebreaker scenarios for the playoffs? According to this site (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ar8RndBU2R5e5BU1BfnRQr85nYcB?slug=ys-09playoffpicture&prov=yhoo&type=lgns), the Ravens are sitting at 7 behind Denver at 6 based on common opponent record. But wouldn't head-to-head put the Ravens in over the Broncos?
Posted by: Kirby | December 27, 2009 8:09 PM
According to this site (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ar8RndBU2R5e5BU1BfnRQr85nYcB?slug=ys-09playoffpicture&prov=yhoo&type=lgns), the Ravens are sitting at 7 behind Denver at 6 based on common opponent record. But wouldn't head-to-head put the Ravens in over the Broncos?
Posted by: Kirby | December 27, 2009 8:10 PM
Very simple,
If said teams win, the Jets will be # 5 seed, the Ravens will be # 6.
Of course head to head is first tie breaker. Ravens lose 5th seed with common opponent tie breaker.
If it ended today. Jets go to Cincy, Ravens go to New England.
The loss sucks today, but Denver, Miami. Jacksonville, Houston and yes, Pittsburgh would all LOVE to be in the Ravens position right now!
I know John..... I'm an idiot!
Posted by: wayne | December 27, 2009 8:24 PM
John,
It doesn't take a genious!
I know that's right, Wayne!
Posted by: Guru76 | December 27, 2009 9:09 PM
cool
Posted by: wayne | December 27, 2009 9:21 PM
"the replays confirmed the penalties, which confirmed that the Ravens remain a very undisciplined team."
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You write the truth Peter. What I find ironic is all the fans who screamed about how Ray Lewis would keep someone like Brandon Marshall, and in previous years, T.O. in check when he can't even keep "his team" in check with making stupid penalties.
Also find it ironic that Preston gives Flacco a "C" for 'patting the ball." Yet gave the secondary a "B" in spite of the worthless play of Frank Walker who couldn't cover someone's grandmother without holding and committing pass interference.
Posted by: Blametherefsagain? | December 27, 2009 10:21 PM
Six Rings--Why are are you so proud of the condition of your bathtub and shirt collar?
Posted by: Barry | December 27, 2009 6:10 PM
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Wow little one, did you think of that one all by yourself or did you have bleach boy Suggs help you? Or was it the other ex-con Ray Lewis? Once again, you lost to the STEELERS. 1-4 in the last five games and that was against a 3rd string QB making his first start. I'll be nice and won't mentioned the record of losses in Heinz Field. Didn't you love the TV coverage showing all SIX of those shiny Lombardi trophies in their cases at the STEELERS complex? I know I did. Made me very proud of the STEELERS and their history. Just think, in the entire history of the NFL no other team has ever one SIX Lombardi's. Don't fret though, little one; maybe in the next decade or two you might be able to add a second one to your lonely trophy case. In the meantime, keep blaming the refs for the losses. *LMAO*
Posted by: Six Rings | December 27, 2009 10:40 PM
Six Rings--Why are are you so proud of the condition of your bathtub and shirt collar?
Posted by: Barry | December 27, 2009 6:10 PM
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Wow little one, did you think of that one all by yourself or did you have bleach boy Suggs help you? Or was it the other ex-con Ray Lewis? Once again, you lost to the STEELERS. 1-4 in the last five games and that was against a 3rd string QB making his first start. I'll be nice and won't mentioned the record of losses in Heinz Field. Didn't you love the TV coverage showing all SIX of those shiny Lombardi trophies in their cases at the STEELERS complex? I know I did. Made me very proud of the STEELERS and their history. Just think, in the entire history of the NFL no other team has ever won SIX Lombardi's. Don't fret though, little one; maybe in the next decade or two you might be able to add a second one to your lonely trophy case. In the meantime, keep blaming the refs for the losses. *LMAO*
Posted by: SIX RINGS | December 27, 2009 10:42 PM
Made me very proud of the STEELERS and their history. Just think, in the entire history of the NFL no other team has ever one SIX Lombardi's.
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Yo' Barry, did you noticed I took a little dig at your lonely trophy by writing "no other team has ever "one" SIX Lombardi's. Had to send again just to show I have more intelligence than bleach boy Suggs or Ray the limo man Lewis.
Posted by: SIX RINGS | December 27, 2009 10:47 PM
To the coaching staff of the Oakland Raiders: Throw every single pass at Frank Walker and run the ball at TaaaaRell Bleach Boy Suggs.
Posted by: SIX RINGS | December 27, 2009 10:51 PM
There is only one thing that is obvious about the ravens football team and that is Coach harbaugh is way in over his head. You can tell me until your blue in the face that he is on the verge of making the playoffs 2 years in a row and how good of a coach he is. If the truth be told you can bet your last dollar that rex ryan made most of the critical decisions on this team last year. I have never seen a coach mismanage time outs the clock , and over all coaching decisions like him. Coach cower is available next year and steve you better give him a very hard look because the coach you have is horrible.
Posted by: blancione | December 27, 2009 10:57 PM
Hey six rings,
You act like you played a part in the six rings. you didn't dude!
None of the boys you dream about - big ben, hines, etc, care that you even exist.
If you never cheered them on again, they wouldn't care. You're meaningless to them.....a joke to them!
Now turn over and kiss your toothless pits lady goodnight.
Posted by: wayne | December 27, 2009 10:58 PM
blancione,
Do you realize how much you sound like an ass? seriously, do you have any idea?
Rex is great, but his D got torched by most teams with a quality qb last year, and he had better personnel than this years squad.
To say that Rex made most of the critical decisions last year just makes you sound ridiculous.
Chill people! Coach Genius (Cower) won one SB in ALL his years in Pitts. One!
Harbaugh has some growing to do, but none of you (as a great coach once said) are 'qualified' to even comment on such.
Why do I even read the crap on these blogs? Mostly for humor I suppose!
Posted by: wayne | December 27, 2009 11:13 PM
the ravens should have won the game. to me they looked dead in the first quarter. they had every chance to win the biggest thing that caused them to lose the game came in the beginning of the 4th quarter when they had scored 3 touchdowns and were called back because of totally inexcuseable penalties. most of the games that the ravens lost this year were due to stupid dumb plays like the plays i mentioned above.where is john harbaugh when it comes to stupid dumb playing we saw in this game.i don't think john harbaugh will be coach very long if he doesn't get the amount of penalties down
Posted by: leonard | December 27, 2009 11:25 PM
Leonard,
All I can say is....... teams like Jax, Miami, Houston, Denver, Pitts, along with all the teams not in the playoff hunt would all LOVE to be in the position the Ravens are in going into next week.
The loss sucks, but even without a legitimate right tackle, only one remaining starting corner, and without our safety, the Ravens could have/should have won.
If Suggs (who got a 65 mil deal) doesn't keep making bonehead plays, or if Mason doesn't let a sure td pass hit off his face mask, we're talking differently right now.
To suggest a coach who made the afc championship game with a rookie qb in his rookie season - and who is likely going to make the playoffs in his 2nd year, is on his way out, is just pure insanity!
Maybe start rooting for the Skins people....or perhaps any other team who will be watching the playoffs from their home this year.
Maybe even Six Rings will invite you to his digs, as he's watching teams other than his own in the post season this year.
Posted by: wayne | December 27, 2009 11:52 PM
Even if everything that followed played out exactly as it was, the armbar mugging of Heap in the end zone is enough to argue that the refs blew the game. That's a 4-point swing in a 3-point loss. Admittedly the Ravens did enough stupid things to cloud the argument, but I find myself less interested in the NFL with every passing week where the "chosen" teams get every call required to secure their victories.
How absurd is it that Ben could make a bone-headed decision by throwing the pass that Zbibokowski picked off and he's not only bailed out from his own stupidity, but it actually rewards the Steelers with the ability to run out the clock.
I truly don't know how many more games I can watch before I deem the entire league a sham and bail out. Just once I would like to see two teams play and the better team win without the ridiculous performance of the zebras becoming such a factor.
Posted by: OforPetesSake | December 27, 2009 11:58 PM
Todays L was Oriole like
Posted by: Anonymous | December 28, 2009 1:05 AM
Team
Good team or bad team?
It starts in off season and we made EVERY wrong decision.
1. Ray over Bart...bad call
2. Suggs signing for sick money, real sic
3. Stover decision, must have some good smoke on the drive
4. Landry over Leonard, at least Landry is performing well after 8 games,geesh
5. Not getting a real receiver by draft or free agency
6. Wasting a second round draft pick(they need to play right away not a "project"
7. Matt Birk, Chris Carr and some stranger named LJ something, really oz areyou kidding,lol
All bad decisions before the season started
And than the coaching with
1. Forgetting the 3 headed monster and trying to get cam a head coach job by throwing
2. overestimating flaccos development
3. clock management or none thereof
4..a doghouse as wide as westminster
5. penalties, lol,oh my
and players
1. inconsistent
2. alot with low talent level
3.underperformers(see suggs again)
yes a few bright spots named webb and rice but but but
A LOSING TEAM
BEGUN with BAD Decisions,coaching and performance
Truly disappointing year.
There you go John. Your TEAM!
Posted by: Ted | December 28, 2009 1:32 AM
Pete, What if NYJ MIA BAL PIT JAX HOU TEN DEN all finish 8-8 ?? Which two teams would get in? Would you please break out your Cray to figure that one out?
Posted by: Ken | December 28, 2009 2:37 AM
Ted,
Losing team? No, you're thinking about the Orioles.
Miami, Jax, Houston, Denver and yes. Pittsburgh would all love to be in the position the Ravens are in right now. Not to mention all the other teams (just in the afc) who are officially out.
Bad decisions? Yes, a few! You think every team doesn't have them though (well, maybe not the colts)?
I could hit you back on just about every item Ted, but you wouldn't listen anyway.
People, please stop with the 3 headed monster though!. Ray Rice is NOW an elite LT type of back. Willis is GONE after this season (cya) and McClain serves his role very well.
Harbaugh took a rookie qb to the afc championship last year people, with a team few thought would make the post season. In his 2nd year, he's headed back to the playoffs. Seriously?
Let's get Fox in Carolina, who's team may be one of the best in the game right now, yet won't make the playoffs (again). Let's get Del Rio, who NEVER makes the playoffs. Let's get Phillips, who'll be going to the playoffs for the first time in Dallas. What about the coaching situation in Cleveland, Washington, Seattle, Buffalo, Oakland. How about CIncy? How many years has Marvin been to the post season since he's been there? I could go on and on, but it's just too easy Ted......
Or maybe Cower? You know, the dude who won one SB with all the great teams he had. ONE!
Root for the skins Ted! Or any of the other teams that not only missed out again this year, but miss out most years.
Wake the F up people!
Posted by: wayne | December 28, 2009 9:58 AM
wayne -
As hard as you try, you'll never convince anyone that this loss shouldn't be blamed on the refs or the coaches.
Unfortunately, it's the culture of the fans of good NFL teams to blame officials for almost every loss. Sure, the best receiver on the team let an easy touchdown pass bounce off his head when he was wide open, but that is ignored because that's something that the officials can't be blamed for.
It's like the 1996 ALCS. 99 out of 100 Oriole fans would blame Rich Garcia for the O's series loss, forgetting the fact that Jeter's assisted home run only tied the game in the 8th inning of Game 1. The Orioles had three more chances to score, as the game went to 11 innings and, if I remember correctly, they got runners to second base in each of those three innings and failed to score. Oh, and then Randy Myers gave up a real, no doubt home run to Bernie Williams in the bottom of the 11th.
Moving on in the series, how about Game 3, when Mike Mussina imploded in the 8th inning, blowing the O's chance of taking a 2-1 series lead? Or how about the horrible starts by Rocky Coppinger and Scott Erickson in Games 4 and 5? Right. None of that had anything to do with the series loss.
So sure, Garcia didn't help, but he definitely didn't lose the series for them.
And it's the same thing in the NFL. Great teams either don't make penalties or they play well enough to overcome the penalties. And good teams certainly aren't as undisciplined as the Ravens have been. When it comes down to it, the Ravens just aren't a great team this year.
Posted by: not brooks | December 28, 2009 11:07 AM
it's sad to see the Ravens fans sounding like Caps fans, it's always the officials fault when your team loses...it was a horrid game by both teams, I've never seen so many conspiracy theorists in one place
Posted by: btezra | December 28, 2009 11:07 AM
The last line of the story says it all. The Ravens are a "very" UNDISCIPLINED football team. 'Nuff said. Just try watching with your eyes, not your hearts, and you will see too.
Posted by: Hoosier Oriole | December 28, 2009 11:19 AM
Brooks,
When I was in Tampa, I saw the media and fans practically run Tony Dungy out of town. They said he couldn't manage a clock, he wasn't tough enough on the players....etc, etc...... Obviously, it was all crap!
Cower, King Bill in New England and so many others took years to win their first SB. Rarest of all is a head coach makes the playoffs in his first 2 years with a team.
Going into last season, there were no expectations for the Ravens. New O line, new qb, etc. They almost made it to the SB. Getting to the playoffs again this year will give them that chance yet again.
20 teams are going home next week. 20! So many teams who were suppose to make the playoffs, won't!
Miami, Jax, Denver, Houston and yes, Pitts would all love to be in the position the Ravens sit in to.
Yes, the loss sucks. They didn't get it done! That's the NFL! But while most teams will be packing it up after next week, the fans of Baltimore get to watch their team compete for a 'chance' to go far.
As a fan, that's all I ask for!
Posted by: wayne | December 28, 2009 11:33 AM
Ok Wayne
Read your pseudo-intellectual dribble. You are the new bob,brummie and Jack as the know it all.
All I said is every single decision turned out WRONG!
Sure,we can go back and rationalize the moves but fella they proved to be the WRONG decisions.
Old Donald Trump would get out that sneer and say "you're fired"
I am not calling for anyones firing but Harbaugh and Ozzie need to do a few basic things.
1. Realize not every player is a great practise player. Get them out of a very real doghouse and give them a chance to help us win.
2. First 2 or 3 rounds of draft need to be players who can step up and play, not projects liked the tweener Kruger. You can get tweeners in the later rounds all day long.
3. Stop the sentimentality. Nobody wanted Ray at that price. Nobody even talked to him. We need the Steeler/Patriot attitude and let older players walk. I got over that crap after the Unitas debacle. Let em walk when passed their prime.
4. Make better free agent acquisitions. This group was seriously flawed. Still looking for LJ who?
OK fella, and perhaps Rice who I agree is a stud should be in the slot with McGahee and McLain at RB here and there.
McGahee is still a talent but on the pines 85% of season. Guess he doesnt practise well.
and heck it took 12 games to bring out the unbalanced line that worked so well last year.
Ridiculous hardheads coaching this year.
And yes Mr. Wayne we are not yet losers like those you mentioned however I measure a losing season/failure by failing to meet expectations.
This club through a series of bad preseason decisions, hardheaded approach to game planning andperformance failed their fans regardless
Posted by: Ted | December 28, 2009 11:45 AM
Ted -
Everything you've said since 5:49pm yesterday has been ignored.
Here's why: "Derrick Mason...dont think we care if you retire this year. Time to move on. Nice career but unforgettable and forgivable drop."
Typical reactionary football fan. Too bad there's no ignore/block function on Pete's blog.
Posted by: not brooks | December 28, 2009 12:15 PM
WOW! What is wrong with you people?! The Ravens lost the game yesterday but the season has been better then many other teams out there and that game yesterday was one of the better ones even with the self destruction. I wish that Oriole fans would demand as much!
Posted by: 2 2 2 2 222222222 B@gGa! | December 28, 2009 12:20 PM
Ted,
Want me to name the good decisions? I can go one post at a time if you'd like.....
Taking Michael Oher, which many are now saying is the # 1 player taken from the 09' draft. Ravens stole him!
I got allot of them Ted!
Posted by: wayne | December 28, 2009 12:50 PM
I can't belive I am agreeing with Wayne, but Ted, you are fantastically wrong on many accounts.
1. Ray over Bart...bad call BART SCOTT SUCKS. THEY GOT BEAT BY THE STUPID WILDCAT TWICE AND ESPN SHOWED A GOOD HIGHLITE OF SCOTT GETTING BLOCKED 3 TIMES ON THE SAME PLAY.
2. Suggs signing for sick money, real sic SUGGS WAS A BEAST LAST YEAR AND DESERVED THE MONEY. HE NEVER FULLY RECOVERED FROM INJURY THIS YEAR AND HE ISN'T BEING USED PROPERLY.
3. Stover decision, must have some good smoke on the drive STOVER IS SHAKY OUTSIDE 40 AT THIS POINT AND CAN'T DO KICKOFFS.
4. Landry over Leonard, at least Landry is performing well after 8 games,geesh IT WASN'T A DECISION OF LANDRY VS. LEONHARD, LANDRY IS STILL UNDER CONTRACT AND LEONHARD WAS DUE 3-4 MIL PER YEAR. COULDN'T AFFORD HIM. LANDRY CAN STILL BE VERY SOLID IN THE NFL, TO BAD THIS YEAR HE IS THE GUY IN THE MICHAEL JORDAN POSTER GETTING DUNKED ON. ALSO, LEONHARD HASN'T LOOKED THAT GREAT THIS YEAR... SAME AS SCOTT ABOVE.
5. Not getting a real receiver by draft or free agency WHO DO YOU WANT? NICKS? BRITT? GIVE UP THE FARM
6. Wasting a second round draft pick(they need to play right away not a "project"
7. Matt Birk, Chris Carr and some stranger named LJ something, really oz areyou kidding,lol BIRK HAS BEEN SOLID, CARR WAS SIGNED TO PLAY NICKLE-DIME AND RETURN KICKS, NOT TO BE A STARTING CB. LJ CAN'T STAY HEALTHLY.
1. Forgetting the 3 headed monster and trying to get cam a head coach job by throwing
THEY DON'T HAVE TO RUN-RUN-RUN THIS YEAR.
2. overestimating flaccos development FLACCO IS DOING FINE. RATHER HAVE HIM THAN ABOUT 20 OTHER QB'S IN THE LEAGUE.
3. clock management or none thereof CLOCK MANAGEMENT STARTS WITH THE DEFENSE GETTING OFF THE FIELD ON 3RD DOWN.
4..a doghouse as wide as westminster MAYBE THESE DOG HOUSED PLAYERS NEED TO ACT RIGHT? IS A WILLIAMS/BARNES DOG HOUSE REALLY AS BIG AS CARROLL COUNTY?
5. penalties, lol,oh my YEAH AND A LOT HAVEN'T BEEN CALLED FOR THEM EITHER.
THIS YEAR IS SIMPLY NOT THEIR YEAR. TOO MUCH WEIRD STUFF, MISTAKES AND BAD MATCH UPS SUNK THEM. MAKE THE PLAYOFFS, FINISH STRONG AND BUILD FOR NEXT YEAR. EVERYTHING WILL BE FORGOTTEN WITH A SOLID OFFSEASON AND DRAFT. MAKING THE PLAYOFFS VS. MISSING THEM IN DRAMATIC FASHION WILL BE SOMETHING TO BUILD ON. THERE WILL BE MORE CAP SPACE NEXT SEASON WITH EXPIRING CONTRACTS TO RETOOL AND MAKE AN SB RUN. THE O-LINE WILL ONLY BE BETTER, FLACCO AND RICE WILL HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE.
IT WILL BE ALL GOOD IN THE HOOD!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 28, 2009 3:47 PM
The point is, yes of course there were other things that happened during the game which would have made that less drive pointless and we could have had a big lead. However there were also things that could have happened and we could have been losing by a wide margin. In the end, at that point in the game, the refs cost us the game. You cannot let a play like that and a ticky-tack penalty like that decide a game at that point in time. Sure if Derrick Mason didn't catch the ball but if he had who knows if we still would have stopped the Steelers and held them from a field goal. That call was bogus and should have never been called, would it have been called if the Steelers had done that?
Posted by: Matt | December 28, 2009 7:33 PM
What is anti-spam verification?
Posted by: Norm | December 28, 2009 8:01 PM