Orioles: Guessing about Guthrie
This discussion has been going on all season. I'm watching Jeremy Guthrie throw with good velocity and -- for the most part -- good command on the way to another subpar performance. If it was an isolated incident, I would chalk it up to the competition, but we're way past that point.
Jeremy has tools. There aren't any physical limitations that are keeping him from being a very effective pitcher. He just has fallen into a pattern where -- no matter how well he's throwing -- he's always a threat to hang a curveball (see Bobby Abreu's home run) or miss up in the strike zone in a dangerous situation.
The most frustrating part of it for O's fans is that he often does it right after the Orioles have put up some runs, which could be a sign of an inability to maintain focus when there is a dramatic change in the condition of the game. I'm guessing, however, that he's just fallen into a rut and will benefit from a fresh start (and a little less responsibility for leading the rotation) next season.






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I was about ready to predict that the O's would lose the game because Guthrie started the sixth inning, then I decided not to because he got the first two outs. I should have known better. As I said before, he can't get the key out, and before you know it, we will be down four again. None of the other mediocre veterans on our staff can get the key out either.
Posted by: flaosfan | August 16, 2009 3:32 PM
Here goes Guthrie, keeping the Angels ahead. Trembley better save our bullpen for another day, duh! Maybe he waiting for Guthrie to put a couple guys on and then Albers can increase he Inherited Runners Scored average. Let's hope that Guthrie shows up for spring training next year as he has had nothing at all in the way of out pitches this year. Every Oriole pitcher who participated in the past two WBC's has had a lousy year.
Posted by: GregA | August 16, 2009 3:34 PM
time to end the guthrie experiment....
Posted by: bill frederick | August 16, 2009 3:34 PM
I am continually amazed how our manager continues to let Guthrie go back out in games where he is completely ineffective and the offense has actually gotten the team back into the game.
Happens over and over.
Posted by: Mark | August 16, 2009 3:53 PM
I am continually amazed how our manager continues to let Guthrie go back out in games where he is completely ineffective and the offense has actually gotten the team back into the game.
Happens over and over.
Posted by: Mark | August 16, 2009 3:53 PM
Bingo! Time for Guthrie to be moved to the bullpen. He has reached the point where the O's simply have no chance to win when he pitches.
For the first time, I'm starting to believe the "fire Trembley" posters. Letting Guthrie go out and give up leads over and over and over is simply poor managing.
Bottom of the 6th, down by one run, leadoff batter doubles, next up is a .200 hitter. What does any manager with 2 brain cells do? BUNT! Trembley has everybody swing away and, of course, the run does not score. That's completely on the manager, simply an awful job managing this one Trembley.
Posted by: Bill | August 16, 2009 4:24 PM
Guthrie was rescued from the scrap heap a couple of years ago and after this year back to the scrap heap he should go.
Posted by: Donald | August 16, 2009 7:37 PM
Leading the O's pitching staff in DINGERS ALLOWED! He;s one that needs to man up!
Posted by: Keith Rowe | August 16, 2009 8:56 PM
Pete,
I think you nailed it. It is lack of focus. It's hard to focus when you don't contend.
Posted by: Slugger | August 16, 2009 11:13 PM
How about a 7 man rotation, everyone works, but not too many pitches...we get thru the season and start from scratch next year.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 17, 2009 6:40 AM
Fresh start? With no WBC this year all pitchers will benefit. I am convinced the WBC started it all for Guthrie. I think he will improve. A number 1? I don't have the expertise to judge that and his record is only part of the equation. I'd love to know what McPhail and Kranitz say to each other about Guthrie and the other pitchers here and on the way.
Posted by: James | August 17, 2009 11:49 AM
To all those who whine about the "cheap" front office:
The Orioles have signed 11th-round pick Michael Ohlman for $995,000. With Ohlman and 22nd-rounder Cameron Coffey (who got $990,000), Baltimore has paid the two highest bonuses known after the 10th round this year.
A catcher from Lakewood Ranch High (Bradenton, Fla.), Ohlman stands out for his power, athleticism and arm strength. He had committed to Miami.
Posted by: TruthBeTold | August 17, 2009 4:18 PM