Mora has been a malcontent WAY before this outburst.

Remember his "nobody yells at me except my daddy" line a few years back when I believe it was Perlozzo getting on him about hustling?

I have zero sympathy for him. He's been horrendouse this season and the fact that he points to last year's meaningless 2nd half numbers is laughable.

And yes, he's gone next year either way.

Then again, in his mind maybe he actually thought the Orioles were gonna pick up an 8 million dollar option for an old washed up 3B.

DFA him. Seriously.

They don't need Mora and such a move would send a message that this kind of complaining is no longer going to be tolerated.

One of the underreported problems of the Angelos era has been ownership's support of players at the expense of management (Alomar-Johnson, for example.) Time to end that. I'm not a big Trembley fan, but he hasn't done anything wrong here.

Ty Wiggington is part of the future. Mora's not. Move on. It's a bold move but it will get everyone's attention in a way that needs doing.

Both sides seem to be acting very classless but that’s the way it goes.. I think the larger situation is that we may be having a repeat today of that 30+ run rangers game a few years back but this time on the road here at Fenway South!

WOW! I have been highly critical of the Orioles over the years and as cynical as I’ve been I didn’t expect anything like this season!!

Holy crap Batman! Do the Orioles SUCK or what? Worst team in all of baseball easily! Blame it all on money grubbing Angelos who is completely happy to welcome 25,000 Red Sox fans to Camden Yards. WHAT AN IDIOT!

Mora has never been worth the contract he got. He does not play hard, he never runs the ball out and he can't hit. Thank god he is finally gone at the end of this year. He was just another mistake of previous GMs. Good riddance.

hey, timmy,

you can stick "fenway south" up your south hole.

the o's have been down for years and the sox have been up. the tables will eventually turn again. and when they do, we'll show the sox fans how to win with class.

They should have cut Mora and kept Salazar. Time to cut Mora now. Mora's number are terrible this year.

They should have cut Mora and kept Salazar. Time to cut Mora now. Mora's number are terrible this year.

They should have cut Mora and kept Salazar. Time to cut Mora now. Mora's number are terrible this year.

Mora's got this all wrong - if anything, Trembley has shown him too much respect. Melvin would have been out of the lineup weeks ago if the O's had a viable option to put at third. There hasn't been any indication Mora was going to have another big second half like last year even before his playing time was reduced.

Thanks Melvin it's been a good ride, but you're right about one thing: It's time to go, both for you and the O's.

well first Wiggy is not part of the future. Second, Mora needs to get in line if he thinks he is being disrespected by Trembley The sky isnt falling people! We are rebuilding and this is part of that process. I think we all understand a new management staff is in order though.

They're both gone next year - but to be fair, Trembley is being evaluated for a job he worked very hard to get. he owes it to the franchise, but also his family to put the best possible team out there - so no part of me sympathizes for Melvin Mora's ego - he is showing his true colors (which happens when things go bad) and is actually just an example of a player on a losing team who thinks of himself first. Look in the morroor Melivn, or better yet look at your stat sheet?

Peter, I think this is just more proof of the losing mentality (swinging at bad 2-0 pitches) that is part of who the Orioles are. Unfortuantely, trembley has not been able to change that course and he'll be gone next year - this team needs a little fire in the belly...talen is one thing - and they have some great young talent - but if you put it in the context of a losing/me first mentality they'll never win...this is one of the reasons I was so disappointed in the example set by Robers not hustling - AdaM Jones now has it too...I just wonder when this all ends for this franchise...they're tough to follow right now.

Pop Fisher,
This is a home game for the Sox man.

Pete, do you know of a good dentist the is open on Sunday ??

I would rather have Root Canal than watch this garbage.

Send Berkin down already ,, he is not ready for this level

I hate to say it because Mel has been with the Os for so long but he needs to go. He's always been the player who works hard and uses his pride to motivate himself. In the past that pride made him an asset; right now it is working against him. Mora represents one of the brighter spots of the Orioles era of the last decade but it's obvious that Mora doesn't have a place in the new era. These are not you're run of the mill days off Mora is getting. I think we need to keep in mind the context of Mora's sensitivity. Everytime we see a young player called up, the new era takes a step closer, and vets like Mora stick out like a sore thumb and become more ignored. Mora's vision of his last years probably resembles a graceful exit of a respected veteran akin to a lite version of Ripken's farewell tour.

There's no easy way an MLB player finishes their career, esp. when the player doesn't realize he's done. Mora could have finished this year as a respected vet that fans appreciate, but by raising the volume, he may only accelerate his release.

This team is garbage.

I think Melvin forgets his stats. His stats say he can't hit anyone at all in 2009. I think he even mentioned he can hit Pedro in his little rant. That's helpful considering how many times we've faced him lately.

All he did was grandstand and give himself TV time to say he can hit all those guys and he's a former All-Star because he knows he's out of here soon. He's trying to make it sooner than later and he wants to spin his impending release as a respect issue as opposed to a complete dropoff in productivity issue.

It's nothing new from him and he is definitely not the veteran pressence we need in the locker room.

I believe the best course of action regarding Melvin Mora is to cut him loose. Obviously he is not happy with the situation and his leaving certainly can't hurt the team especially it if it already known that he won't be here next year.

Secondly when Bergie gets back from the DL send Berken back to Norfolk. Obviously he isn't ready to pitch at this level as a starter.

There is nothing "dysfunctional" about the Orioles locker room right now, other than ONE player who took the wrong method to voice his displeasure about playing time.

What makes it laughable is exactly WHO that player is.....Melvin Mora looks ridiculous whining to the media with his numbers.

If it was just an orchestrated ploy to get out of Baltimore before he suffers the embarrassment of being released without saying his piece, it may have worked.

And Wiggington just hit a two-run homer to bring the Orioles back to within one run.

See ya, Melvin.

Pretty exciting all of a sudden for a team that's "garbage."

Also, no Mora anywhere near the celebration after Huff's double or the Wiggington HR. I even rewound it and he's literally not there at all. Some "team" player.

Melvin seems to convieniately forget that Dave Trembley kept him into the No. 5 hole in the lineup when he was struggling miserably and when everyone else in Baltimore wanted him benched.

Yeah, that Trembley guy gives him no respect.

Give me a f***** break Melvin. Your stats this year are laughable and your attitude, even moreso.

GARBAGE!

DFA him tonight.

Peter, in my mind, there is absolutely no room to sympathize with Melvin. His argument is that Dave Trembley doesn't like him, and that he should be playing because he has played the last 9 years. He seems to think Dave's dislike for him is the only reason he's not playing. If that's the case, he's delusional.

There's not another manager in MLB that would have left him in the lineup this long, let alone sought him out to tell him of his benching before the lineup card went out on consecutive days, like Dave did earlier this week. Melvin himself is the one who said he didn't need a heads up anymore.

And with his numbers - (.256 AVG, .321 OBP, .330 SLG) - there's no way Dave can justify putting him in the lineup every day at this point, let alone batting him 5th. Respect would be telling a veteran before he's benched, like Dave did, not starting a 3B with 3 HRs on a team starving for power hitters.

Melvin Mora may be a great father, but he's acting like a spoiled brat in the clubhouse. DFA him and start fresh next year.

if melvin was hitting better than what he has been doing,dave would have him in the line up. he has had some very costly mental erros this season. there is no need for melvin to have it in for dave when he hasn't performed well this year.

It's unfortunate that Melvin chose the words he did. Emotions often do that. Like Pete said, it's clear that the issues between him and DT have been going on a while. Doesn't seem like a sudden outburst but rather the lid coming off of a simmering pot.

We do have to remember that Melvin has been a team guy all along, and one of a few class acts in Baltimore in a sad era. Remember that he's the only Oriole that showed up to Elrod's funeral. He's been here a long time, and overall played well. I'll be sad to see him go when he does.

Dave Trembley has tried hard and done a lot with a tough situation. But when losing goes on and on, it creates an acidic environment. When you don't have the personnel yet to turn it around, there is little the manager can do to stem the acidic clubhouse. The situation requires a response, and business requires the manager to go. He is the lowest paid and highest profile person. It always makes business sense to purge the manager, even if he isn't the direct cause. That's just the way it goes.

Mora will be gone, and DT will be gone. That's business.

This game is horrible!

Mora needs to go, along with:

Trembley
Juan Samuel
Danys Baez
Jason Berken (back to the minors)
Aubrey Huff (even if he is hitting now)
Luke Scott (too streaky)

Get some more arms and bats, a no nonsense manager, and a third base coach that knows baserunning.

This is a perfect time to send a message to the young players, Brian Roberts and Aubrey Huff, although Huff should be gone after this year too. Give Melvin his walking papers now. They are not going to bring him back anyway, and his roster spot can be used to give a young guy some time in the bigs. This outburst just provides evidence that Mora is a selfish, unproductive player that has been part of the problem. Goodbye Melvin.

mora is an excellent fielder, can't hit anymore...

they won't get a grocery cart full of soft pretzels for him at this point.

The O's just now awakened that "Sleeping Giant" as Yamamoto said back in '41. 10-1 the Sox come back and make this travel day game a laffer. When this game started and Roberts led off with a walk I said to myself "They've got to run Roborts". Martinez sagely observed that they wouldn't run Roberts with the score already 4-0. He must have a very short memory if he had forgotten the two double plays Fri. and the three last night, all courtesy of Boston pitching (The DP's were so taylormade that even Pie, undoudtaby the fastest O from home to first, was easily out. The only one that was halfway difficult out of the five was the line drive to Martinez and the easy tag on Jones so the Pitcher gets full credit for the DP's. By the way, Huff caught a line drive in today's game and Buck told us that the ball was hit so hard that the runners AUTOMATICALLY retreated back to base therby giving the O's no chance for a DP. Hmm, does Jones know about this rule? As for Mora, the bloggers who don't like him are incorrect when they fail to give him credit for last year's stats. It was the last half of the season when almost everyons EXCEPT Mora tanked. With batting averages down tremendously Mora was able to reach 100+ RBI's, the criteria for a good season at the plate. Additionally, I remember quite a few outstanding defensive plays by him. I agree he's on the way out but have a little respect, as Melvin asks, and don't beat the guy while he's down. Its funny, the guys who rant the strongest through their blogs are probably guys who were lucky to have even played sandlot ball at some time in their lives and now they're pounding on a guy who has had a pretty good major league career. Next they'll be pooh-poohing Pete's career at Cal State-Fullerton. Sometimes you never win.

Send Mora packing......

Start Wiggy at 3B for rest of season!

Good time for Trembley and Andy to hold a team meeting. Draw a line in the sand and say this is where we are heading. Affirm that TEAM is bigger than any individual players!

Gotta to press on! Better times are on the horizon! Gotta believe! 2010 will be the return of "Why Not"!!!!!!!

Go O's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mora is done - the fork is stuck waaaay deep in his rump. And he drives it in even further *himself*! Not an excellent fielder. Not at all. Cannot go to his left and cover the gap, at all. Was a decent hitter, now - NOT.

And the attitude. Dude, you were NOTHING when you were traded from the Mets, caught fire when the O's gave you a chance, and MILLIONS of dollars, and now you want to rip on them. Step back and get some perspective before you blow away in the wind like yesterday's newspaper. Because that time, my friend, is coming whether you want it or not. 'Respect'... gimme a break. Millions of dollars is all the respect you will get, and that is more that you deserver.

I have been a proponent for benching Mora, Huff and Scott this season; however I do sympathize with him. Out of the 3 of them he should have been the last one to be benched. His defense is still above average even after all this years. He is a long time Oriole and has given us more than Huff of Scott. To single him out like that is pretty low of Trembley and a desperate move to save his job.

OMG!!!! I am so tired of Melvin Mora and his "disrepect". We all could be so lucky to be disrepected for millions of dollars..Someone bring the cheese for his whine!!!!

I have to admit I feel disrespected also. But Melvin gets paid 200 times the average person in Baltimore to do what the coaches tell him. He will get back in the lineup and play and all of this will be forgotten, he will get a league minimum contract from someone next year.

If there was a market for Mora, he would already be gone. I root for the guy, but maybe he should have taken that fact into consideration before popping off.

Hey Melvin,you have 3 HR'S more than I do.If I was the manager you would have been gone by now.Before you pop off thank god you have a job.The numbers don't lie.Stop whining and man up.

It comes dow to changing the loser's culture on this team. Not sure how we accomplish that or what manager can instill a winning attitude in this team. After talent, it comes down to attitude and believing that you can win. The O's have reasonable talent but do the things that losers do. Jones, Roberts, Reimold, huff, scott, Wieter, etc...A lot of teams have far less talent but seem to find ways to win. No matter who we add, we find ways to lose. How many games have we lost by 1 or 2 runs?

Trembley has no imagination when managing. If you see that we are hitting into double plays, why not bunt and move the runners to second and 3rd with one out? PLay small ball until the hits start falling in. Obviously we keep doing the same things expecting a different result. It just ain't gonna happen. It is time to shake this thing up. We have gone as far as we can with Trembly. Need someone who can light a fire under this team.

melvin. you have been the 2nd best 3rd baseman in our team history. your .340 avg was the best ever for us. 2 time all star, a good soldier on a bad team, and a good man in our community. i know you were fueled by Ortiz' comments, and disappointed in your numbers this year and subsequent lack of playing time. you did your job here, and will always be remembered as a great oriole player. it's hard to realize that your level of professionalism may have already peaked, and your numbers may never again be what they used to be. Dave did not intentionally disrespect you, he kept you in the 5th spot as long as he could when other managers would have lowered you in the order much sooner. He has to field the team that he feels has the best chance of winning, and can't worry if one player objects to his decision. i hope you get picked up by another team and do well, but, man, it's time to go. good luck to you melvin and thanks for the efort and class you've shown, up until today.

I think Berken has a future here but can't believe how long we've let him stay here and get abused. We want to protect the young guys,(Tilman,Arrieta, and Matusz). Newsflash: Berken is a young guy too. I hope Matusz/Tilman/Arrieta don't have to get punished as much when they pitch if they aren't ready also.

I agree time to send a message. Mora was once a good player. 2004 All-star and yes, had a very good year last year. But great players lose graciously. Mora is not. The moment he realizes he has no chance at that option, no chance to be a part of this team he gets upset. To the media. Dont play these games Melvin. Nobody expects Trembley to do well, I sure dont, he is very inexperienced as a manager, nice guy, but he makes tons of mistakes. But benching Mora is not once of them. Neither would be maybe a single game benching of Roberts. Something! But that type of attitude magnified amongst all of our players is what gets us into this mess. Attitude is everything. Play with a mean streak. Baez might be tossing batting practice in the 7th inning sometimes, but he has that streak. Jones has it, you can see Weiters has it, Reimold, Zaun, Johnson, but it has to be more prevalent and Mora is not helping. Sit him and admonish him for his lack of respect. Cut him! We have the payroll space, clearly and if he gets picked up, so be it. If he doesnt he will understand what we all have been seeing for a while, which is deteriorating offensive skills. Show the team and us fans that this kind of attitude will not be acceptable. The great organizations do not tolerate this type of behavior.

Well said Bill! Funny how this comes two days after the trade deadline, so he was venting. He will be back in the lineup the next game, who knows maybe he will turn it around now.

Pete,

It was only a matter of time until Melvin felt "disrespected." How many times have we heard that? I am sick and tired of looking at that sour puss of his and his lack of leadership. He does not play with any emotion.

The O's should have gone to him (or maybe they did) and say up front that they were not goung to exercise the option and to drop the no trade clause.

Now I'm not saying that there was demand but at least there would have been an opportunity to go to a contender.

Come September it will be "Melvin, meet Brandon Snyder. Brandon meet Melvin. Now take a seat, and, oh yeah, thanks."

Like in any business, if you can't perform your job to standard you laid off, cut, reduced pay, demoted or fired. Baseball is no different. And Mora's skill have become the least viable on the team. And with his latest outburst he is just unprofessional.

ive written numerous letters this year about trembly and mora , finnally moras made me happy cutting his own throat by opening his mouth again . its hard to belive he thinks before he talks but he runs the bases the same way , like a fool . no power no class , really makes you miss old brooks . now they can cut him loose and watch all those teams go after a 38 year old has been and his three homeruns bye melvin

This is real simple folks, " Dear Mr. Mora, you get paid 8 million dollars in one year to play baseball. You should be smiling at almost anything that could happen during your brief work year, short of a physical injury. At least pretend to know how to act like a man."

I couldn't care less about Melvin Mora anymore. He was good for a while but I've always thought he was a baby. Respect? He should feel lucky Trembley lets him put on a uniform everyday. Take a look at your numbers Melvin. Newsflash: You stink! Nobody's gonna miss you. Adios Amigo!!!

MEMO TO MORA:

Ty Wigginton: Age 31, FIELDING -
POS. 3B, SS, 2B, 1B, 3E
BATTING - .264BA, 8HR, 29 RBI, 28K's, SLG .410 in 250 at bats.
Salary: $2.5 million

Melvin Mora: Age 37, FIELDING - POS. 3B, 7E. BATTING - .256 BA, 3HR, 27 RBI, 33K's, SLG- .330 in 285 at bats. Salary: $8 million.

Do the math Melvin and stop whining.

Mora getting even more upset after speaking with Ortiz???? I think that it is rather humorous for Mora to put himself in the same boat as Ortiz!!!! The reason why Francona is so patient with his veterans is because they have alot more talent and are leaders!!!! I also think it's sad to reference him being an All Star 5 years ago....that has nothing to do with what is going on today!!!

It is time to move the malcontents like Mora. Do it now, let Wigginton play the rest of the way at third this year and bring up Justin Turner. Also, send Berken down to work on mechanics (his release point is too high; he needs to do the same thing that Jim Johnson did a few years ago and lengthen his stride a bit). He has a good arm and is a competitor, but he isn't ready yet. Bring up Waters until Bergesen is healthy.

R E S P E C T. aTTN: ORIOLE PLAYERS AND MANAGEMENT. THERE IS A LACK OF RESPECT GOING ON HERE. NO NOT TO YOU MR MORA. i HAVE BEEN AN AVID ORIOLES FAN SINCE I WAS A YOUNG CHILD. I WAS WITH YOU IN THE GLORY DAYS AND I STUCK WITH YOU IN THE NOT SO GLORY DAYS. I AM NOW DEMANDING R E S P E C T. START RIGHT NOW!!! PUT A TEAM TOGETHER THAT CAN WIN. THIS INCLUDES MANAGEMENT. ANDY I LIKE WHAT YOUR PLAN IS BUT FOR GODSAKES GET A L E A D E R. IF A THIRD OF OUR YOUNG ARMS PAN OUT, WE WILL BE O.K. WE ARE A FEW POSITION PLAYERS AWAY FROM A GOOD DEFENSIVE AND OFFENSIVE TEAM. WE NEED A L E A D E R . CALL FRANK ROBINSON UP. MAYBE HE WILL FORGIVE THE O'S FOR DISSING HIM AND COME BACK TO TEACH THESE YOUNG GUYS HOW TO BE WINNERS. I AM SURE YOU HAVE HIS #.

no room for whiners. bye.

It's laughable that Mora brings up a conversation he had with a steroid user about where he "hits" in the lineup. Way too funny. There's no "I" in team but there is one in Melvin. Go away and take your ridiculous grossly overpaid $8 million salary with you.

Melvin Mora ONLY made the all-star team 5 years ago because every team needed to be represented. He's not an all-star. Andy can send a clear signal to the clubhouse that this type of behavior will not be tolerated. Waive him...today. Stats don't lie, Wiggington is much more productive than Melvin with the glove and bat and he soesn't run into outs.

Good luck finding the "respect" you think you deserve from any other team, Melvin Mora, especially for $8 million a year.

I agree with Dennis: bring back Frank Robinson as manager (or Davey Johnson).

If Mora wants to know what real disrespect is he only needs to remember that at the trade deadline, the Os would have dealt him for a ham sandwich but not a single major league club was willing to give up a low level prospect for his baseball services. Clearly, the entire league, not just Trembley, gets that Melvin's skills (at least at the plate) are vastly diminished - shockingly so - from just a year ago.

With that said, I have nothing but love for Melvin Mora. He has been a very good player and a great person for this organization and this City. As a player, he exceeded all expectations - hitting with power, hitting for average, and driving in runs year after. He plays hurt, he works very hard, and he has always been accessible to fans. He also never complained when the team went into its yearly 'sell off" mode to rebuild.

Melvin appears to be looking for Cal Ripken-like respect and treatment, just ask Papi. Obviously, none of the things that have been happening to Melvin would be happening to a revered Orioles-God like Cal.

Melvin needs to come off his high horse a bit (his jersey number is not going to be retired here) and the Os need to show Melvin some more respect (he has earned it).....immediately.

Mora should have no complaints. Batting fifth most of the year he has 27 RBI. You should get that many by accident. Should have been sat down long ago. Some of the other writers are correct, he was an all star because someone from the Orioles had to be. Plus, it was years ago. Brooks was an all star 20 times, but I wouldn't want him playing 3rd for the Orioles today. Some players just don't know when it's over. His comments last week about wanting to play 4 more years shows how out of touch he is.

A while back, it became obvious that it was time for another O's third baseman to step down. His manager said to him, "We have a problem".
"No we don't" the player said, "you tell me what to do and I'll do it".

As Earl Weaver said on "Thanks Brooks" day in 1977, "Every player I benched ripped me in the press. Every one of them... except Brooks"

Melvin, sometime soon, please spend an afternoon at the Orioles Museum. You might learn something.

do u believe this guy bitching and complaining because trembly took him out of the line up, he should of been takin out a long time ago, wat a baby, i only wish the os had traded him at the deadline, now they wont get nothing in return!!