Favre has lost a lot with how he's handled things over the last 2+ years. My lost of respect for the guy has also deminished my thoughts on his career in whole

fire trembley

Favre just didn't want to participate in training camp so he purposely waited to sign, kinda similar to Sugg's ability every year to come up with a phony injury to miss training camp.

Favre has absolutely no credibility left with the fans and probably not many of the players for that matter. The Vikings have lousy receivers so he's going to have a bad year anyway, unless of course, he's being paid $12M to hand of to Adrian P.

Childress doesn't really have any respect or credibility in the locker room anyway and is just doing whatever it takes to save his job, which was in serious jeopardy coming into this year.

The best part of the whole Favre saga is that it allows us to at least temporarily stop thinking about how bad the Orioles are.

You were doping the radio show? Is it that bad?!! That much narcotic relief is needed to survive it?! And what happened to "temporary host"? You work cheaper than Davis do you?!

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Pete's reply: No, but I'm only on one hour a night. I did fill in as temporary host on the three-hour show for a couple of weeks after Steve left (as I had during his vacations), then started doing an hour four nights per week from spring training. Steve's departure and my accepting the one-hour gig during baseball season were totally unrelated. I actually have fewer hours on WBAL now (seven) than I did doing weekends (eight) when Steve was doing Sportsline....and, though I fixed the typo, do you every wonder why so many typos actually end up spelling something funny like that? Freudian?

I dont blame Favre for wanting to play as long as he can. I dont think any athlete ruins his "legacy" by doing that. My problem is just with the way he cant be straight and seems to be pretty selfish during all of this. I was never a huge fan of his, so it doesnt disillusion me or anything. If he wanted to keep playing, just come out and say it from the beginning.

I feel for Dave (above), who's losing respect for Favre's career now. I'm struggling with this, too. I know that anyone deserves to have his personal and professional accomplishments remembered separately. A great athlete can be terrible at handling career decisions, just as a great scholar can be a lousy driver, or a great musician can be a terrible cook. Favre's football accomplishments are tremendous, and if he now screws up his exit, or loses all his money at the track, or ends up on TV hawking Ginsu knives, or whatever, that's separate from his career. I know that, but he's not making it easy for me.

Points to think about. Does Favre make the HOF, based on his years with GB? Does the last year with the Jets, and this year with the Vikings take any away from that?

Absolutely not buying what Favre is selling. Each offseason, Favre did more dancing (about retirement) than Cherokees did for rain during a drought.

I don't know what went on behind closed doors b/w Favre and Ted Thompson, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Ted Thompson saw three realities.

1) That Favre's waffling (all because he hated training camp) forced them to take Aaron Rodgers in the first round in 2005.

2) That Favre's continued waffling (as a Packer) would lead to having to trade Rogers for less than what was his market value (first round pick), as he'd never started.

3) Rogers leaving as a free agent, resulting in the Packers receiving neither compensation or performance from a first round pick.

Those are not the circumstances under which to operate at the highest level of any organization. So Thompson sent the circus packing. Can you blame him?

Pete - what is Steve doing now? Did he catch on with another station?

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Pete's reply: Not yet. Steve is doing vacation work on WBAL-TV and, I believe, is starting his own business, but I bet he'll be back on the radio soon.

I am in total agreement with Carter and Schmuck on Childress and Favre.

Later, Carter also said the Vikings are a better team now with Favre than before without. I would only agree with that if there is a special emphasis on NOW.

By Week Eight (maybe even sooner), Favre will be exposed as no longer having "it" just as he did the last five games of '08 as a Jet.

The Vikings should be all about rushing the ball and defense, but you don't get a Ferrari--even a high-mileage, well-worn one--just to carry the groceries.

The Vikings are a team destined to be in a constant state of flux for '09. I see an underachieving 8-8 on the horizon.

I think the 2009 Vikings will do about as well as the 2008 Jets: a few exciting games early on before they peter out and miss the playoffs, leaving the locker room in shambles, the coaching staff in the hot seat, and the management $10 million poorer. Favre of course will "retire" again.

Favre hasn't had credibility since he laid down for Strahan.

Brett and Brad were playing their cards, nothing at all wrong with that. Brett needed time to rehab his arm so he didnt come to camp looking worn out. I hope he beats the Packers twice this year.

Favre has retired more times than George Foreman, and will probably go out the same way....fat, old and flat on his back.

Pete, I agreed with you last year about Farve and agree with you this year, too. I remember last November - JUST BEFORE Farve and the Jets started to crash and burn - Ravens' beat writer Jason Hemsley was on your Saturday radio show and said something to you like "Admit it, Peter, you were wrong about Farve". I can't remember his exact words, but the way he went about it seemed rather rude to me - and very premature, as the events of December showed. I'm wondering if he ever said to you later, "No Peter; I was wrong!"?

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Pete's reply: I don't even remember that, but I'm glad you did. I'll give Jamison a hard time next time he's on the show.

Hey Pete;

Did you see you're buddy Ken Rosenthal gave you a shout out in his column today? He's was writing about how the O's should keep Trembly for at least one more year.

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Pete's reply: I did see that, but he was quoting the column where I called out some of the veterans. My column wasn't about Trembley.

I cannot stand this dude, Brett Favre. He ought to be embarrassed by all the teary eyed press conferences and attention his entrances and exists in and out of locker rooms cause.

I mean it's a sports story so I can understand the occasional headline and coverage but helicopters hovering over a parked vehicle filming he and his wife is cloying and unbearable.

Why can't some studio analysts just say, "please, I don't want to talk anymore about this fool and I could care less!"

Favre looks dirty, old and punch drunk. I never did like him and never will. Now let me tell you exactly how I feel...

I've lost a ton of respect for Favre. I understand an athlete retiring, realizing he's not as banged up as he thought or missing the game more than he though, and deciding to come back. That's human.

But Favre's made an ass of himself by continually giving fans and the media the runaround. And as happy as I'm sure Vikings players are at their improved QB situation, they have to feel a little bamboozled by Favre and Childress as well.

Not to mention that Favre has now alienated an entire city in Green Bay and destroyed his legacy.

That being said, Minnesota has a better defense than the NYJ and the best RB in the NFL, so I doubt Favre will have to throw as much. We won't see a repeat of last year.

Honestly, I think this solidifies Minny's presence in the NFC championship game against Philly.

Anyway, I think the most telling thing is he signed a TWO year contract. So this was not a split-decision, "I'll give it one more year" type of thing.

I'm fed up with the Favre saga. It's obvious that he simply has no stomach for training camp, so he waffles on whether or not he's coming back until it's late enough in the process for him to just show up and play.

I've gotta figure that his act has worn thin with teammates as well. They're out there busting their butts in the summer heat for weeks on end, and then Favre rides in on his white horse to be the 'savior'. I don't see it working out that way, however.

I don't think Favre taints his playing legacy too much. More people talk about the Bulls Jordan than the Wizards Jordan. I mention that because I think he'll be a disaster for Minnesota.

For once I think I'm in the majority here though. I used to really respect Favre on and off the field. He just seems like a complete megalomaniac and just out for Brett Favre. I understand that it was a bad relationship in Green Bay, but this all just screams petty spite to work so hard to get to Minn. His retirement from the Jets essentially got them nothing in return for the investment they made in him (unless you count Rex Ryan).

All of that aside, his actions aren't my biggest issue with the whole thing. He's somebody else's problem anyway. I just despise this whole lovefest ESPN and the like have with him. Thank you soooo much Pete for not drinking that Kool Aid.

Character issues aside, I really don't think he has 19 games in him. Yet all the hype is Super Bowl this and that. Anita Marks was all about it just like ESPN today and I just don't see it. He was lobbing ducks against the Giants and he was breaking down last year. His last two seasons have not done anything to show me he's that caliber QB anymore.

$12 million though. Much more money than I'd ever get offered for my dignity.

Well, Favre played great in 2007 and was leading the Jets well for a good part of 2008, until he got hurt. I don't think so much of the Jet's coach last year (I like this year's coach though).

Now, we haven't heard what if anything the Vikings managements said before hand to the other QB's and the rest of the players. So, I think a lot of the outrage is premature.

The bottom line is what happens on the field, of course, and I hope he does well. The guy wants to play the game. And as for not liking training camp, how is, er, Suggs doing?

The real issue here is that it is the off season and there is nothing of real strong interest for writers and talk radio hosts. Face it, Favre is a compelling figure and he is news. So who cares how many times he retires or doesn't retire. He gets behind the center, and makes plays, with really big guys trying to take his head off, and he can make split second decisions to make the play (ok, he does throw a lot of picks, but you know what he means).

So I say, go Favre! Do well!

And of course, fire Trembley! If he can't get major league players to hustle and run the bases properly, he needs to go. Either the players don't follow the coaches' direction or the coaches aren't doing their job on the basepaths. Either way, time for him to go.

Rich, Columbia

By taking Favre, the Minnesota Vikings have just mathematically eliminated themselves from a Super Bowl Championship without playing their first regular season game.

I think Brett must have forgot to look at the Schedule: Steelers and Ravens!! That should have kept him retired. Does he make it out of those games in one Piece??

Farvrerverv won't be able to chuck those eyes-closed dead duck deep bombs into triple coverage for TD's with Ed Reed lurking.

Ravens 24 Farvkings 10

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Favre is a narcissist with an ego that makes T.O. look shy. This retiring saga has gone on for several years, not just the last two. He enjoys the tears and the press conferences each year, then retires, then comes out once the spotlight is off. Add to that how overrated he is and this whole thing grew tiresome a couple of years ago. He needs to grow up.

Pete, I'm not sure why you say you think Favre will fail again. He was pretty stellar the first half of last season and only struggled after the injury.

If his arm isn't 100% or shuts down on him midway through the year, okay, we're on the same page, but supposedly surgery took care of the problem and, if so, he could be poised to have a historically big year for an over-40 quarterback.

The Vikings have a big play defense that often will be getting him the ball in good field position and if that weren't enough, he's lining up with the best running back in the league in Adrian Petersen.

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Pete's reply: I've been a Favre fan for a long time, but I was really talking about the likelihood that he won't hold up physically. I know he's a great player.

Defenses are between a rock and a hard place: If they tried to crowd the line to stop the carries of "Purple Jesus," the secondary is going to be picked apart by the passes of "Country," just as he's done for nearly two decades in the NFL.

Minnesota easily could be on the long end of some routs this season. They have too many weapons to stop.

The Vikings aren't stupid. They've watched him throw the ball with ease and had him undergo a physical, which he passed with flying colors. His skillset hasn't fallen off that much, Pete. Assuming he stays healthy, at 42 he's still the best QB in Minnesota and far better than 90% of the league's signal callers.

Far from predicting the repeat fiasco you foresee, I'm picking Favre to lead the Vikings to the playoffs; that is. provided his offensive line keeps him upright. Some of your readers are trashing him, but for me Favre is one of the greats, a true gamer, cut in the mold of the players of a tougher bygone era and a real joy to watch.

Welcome back, Brett! Enjoy your "unretirement!"

Favre hasn't been an NFL QBfor the last three years.As far as leading the Vikes to the playoffs, they would have made the playoffs anyway, nothing less than a Superbowl win will justify Childress' actions.There will be a crucial game late in the season and Favre will throw 3-4 picks and suddenly his arm will be injured. He's already setting that up with this crap about a rotator cuff injury. Built in excuse for a sad old man. Just please, somebody tell ESPN that he hasn't been very good for three years and that we're all tired of thier hero worship. Pick a new binky!!

Maybe he just really hates living in Mississippi. Not that I blame him. I'm thinking that if he retired somewhere nice, he might just stay retired.

we're talking about the Vikings here. Didn't they sign Gus "head-butt_Frerotte last year because Jackson is horrendous? Sage Rosenfels is the other guy in the mix?!?! I'll take my chances with Favre. Furthermore, he was bad at the end of last year but two years ago he was great minus the playoff loss to the Giants.

I hope Favre steps it up this season and does well for his team.

I hope Favre steps it up this season and does well for his team.

I don't think he holds up either. He had nothing in the tank for that NFC title game 2 years ago and last season was a bit more obvious.

I think it's a shame to see him go through this debacle. I think he really hosed the Jets by retiring and ensuring that they got nothing in return for his time there.

How about the lovefest on TV though? Some of those ESPN guys get the Chris Matthews tingle down their legs when they talk about Favre I think. Anita Marks too, she's all about the guy. Talking about Super Bowls and everything. I definitely think he makes them better, but that's quite a stretch to me still, though I'll be openminded if his surgery fixed everything good as new.