I know this won't get in in time,but I told my father that if Trembley brought Baez in we would lose this game,I love Trembley he makes me look good.Tell me why you don't pitch hit in the 7th,or hit and run with Markakis with Jones on 1st.Trembley is awful,sorry,they weren't even getting close to Albers,and Baez's ERA in JUne is close to 6.00.that's why lose close games,we have no manager.Baez just proved me right by giving up the tying run even as I type.

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Pete's reply: Wait, aren't you supposed to be ripping Brian right now? How many innings is Albers supposed to pitch with that torn labrum?

Personally I'd move him to the bullpen and see how he does there and then give him a chance again next spring. They can try to move Hendrickson since he has shown he can perform in a bullpen role and would have some value to contending teams.
Hill is a bigger question mark. Personally his delivery and lack of control doesn't bode well for his future. He also is 28 and is at an age where he should not be dealing with these issues. I just can't see him having consistent success with the delivery and control problems.

It is sad to see the McNair story. Too many people dying too young. I do wonder what he was doing with a 20 yr old. That makes you wonder.

Pete,

How many balls have dropped between NM and BR this year????? I swear I've seen at least 3. This is unbelievable. And the only guy I've seen Trembley criticize for these bonehead plays is Pie. This is why DT will be gone (as you've written). I'm 58 so I still have the pre PA O's to cherish. Not sure how we keep any young fans.

What it comes down to with this team is accountability. Does anyone hold Markakis accountable for that drop in left field? It doesn't seem so to me. That is why I firmly believe this team needs a manager with experience who has won in the major leagues. So few, if any, of the Orioles have even played for a winning team in their major league careers that they should at least have a manager that knows how to win in the big leagues.

Brian Roberts with the casual back handed flip high to Andino and the even more casual stroll out toward right field on the very high pop up. Oh and he sauntered to first on his grounder to 2nd, even though pitcher and first baseman were confused over coverage. No worries, Angels, its Roberts running, er, jogging.... plenty of time.

Somebody wake up Mora. These are the Orioles we all know and love.

jeez, this game got awful messy

Peter, I think they'll wait till after the All Star game - but one of them is going to go and it will probably be Berkens...he doesnt yet have the stuff to see batters 2, let alone 3 times in a game. My hunch is Tillman gets a start right after the break.

Pete,

As we celebrate our birthday with fireworks all over the country, I was greatly disapointed the one place there should have been a huge explosion was in the O's dugout by Dynamo Dave when Nick and Brob acted like two little leaguers! I can't stand terrible baseball and the lack of fundamentals without a stern skipper just sends the wrong signal to the younger players!

Berkin seems to be ok for 2 times through the line-up and then gets ripped. Probably destined for the pen

I have one word to describe the O's LOSER, The bullpen is bad, the base running and fielding is terrible and the lack of hustle is inexcusable. Trembley needs to go off on them or he to will be gone soon. I have been a fan for 40 years and worked for the club for 6 years and all I can say is "Get rid of the LOSERS and the guy that don't hustle." I am sick of watching them!!

I have one word to describe the O's LOSER, The bullpen is bad, the base running and fielding is terrible and the lack of hustle is inexcusable. Trembley needs to go off on them or he to will be gone soon. I have been a fan for 40 years and worked for the club for 6 years and all I can say is "Get rid of the LOSERS and the guy that don't hustle." I am sick of watching them!!

That laughing you hear is from the Twins front office. Someone actually signed Brian Bass. HA HA HA HA!!

Is it me, or does this team have a cutoff switch that they flip after they get a 3 or 4 run lead? I keep hearing about "tack-on runs", but it seems to me the O's don't score very many of them. And before the chorus starts up on Roberts again, that ball was Nick's all the way, and he just watched it. The outfielder HAS to take that ball, period.

i'm excited to read the post game lament
Maybe the manager will adress the need to play all 27 outs. Nah.
The sloppy play? Nah.
Why Mora is playing again? Nah.
Let me guess...hmmm, things kinda snowballed there in the 8th.

Berkens needs some werkens. Back to AAA and see if he can't get himself an out pitch. 20+ pitches an inning barely qualifies him for mop up duty.
Bring up another one.

Can somebody tell me why Trembley doesn't even try to pinch hit,hardly ever.Another loss chalked up to Super Dave.

Actually, Pie fell asleep and held the ball after he charged it, allowing that super fast dude to score in the Florida game, but at least he hustled initially. For that he gets publicly castigated. Roberts is guilty of lack of hustle every night. Where's your rant now, Trembley?
Maybe Roberts can be the player to be named later in the Rich Hill deal. Except the Cubs aren't stupid enough to give him 40 million dollars.

Is it time the organization as a whole weighs in on how the bullpen is used? If Texas can get rid of pitch counts can we please commit to using as few pitchers in a game as reasonable. Matt Albers, looking effective enough to bridge the game all the way to the 9th is replaced by a "7th inning guy" who has been ineffective recently. Even if Baez was effective he would have given the ball to a struggling "8th inning guy". Maybe Andy McPhail should hire a statistician who could explain the probabilities of an undesired result caused by introducing an unknown variable (a new pitcher) into an equation. A major-league bullpen used to be for replacing ineffective or injured players. Now it is literally a crapshoot.

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Pete's reply: No, you can't. Just because Nolan Ryan has started a multi-year experiment to get away from pitch counts doesn't mean the Orioles can act immediately to change the way they handle pitchers. This game really isn't on the bullpen, even though the bullpen stunk it up.

Brian Bass in his last 16 appearances before tonight,2.08 Era,and a 4-1 record,I think that would be acceptable on almost any big leauge club.If we gt that out at third the whole inning changes.You can't blame the pitcher for that.And I wasn't saying not replace Albers,I was saying don't replace him with Baez,who has looked like the Baez of old for at least 5-6 weeks.Wonder if he isn't burnt out already.

Sorry,hit preview and it posted before I finished.Didn't mean to have multiple posts.Any idea why it does that Pete?Sometimes you think it hasn't posted so you hit it again.

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Pete's reply: I guess it just slows down. Don't worry about it. If there are multiples, I'll delete the extra ones.

To me the players' body language and sloppy play is speaking volumes and saying "Fire Trembley already!"

Oh, and it's time to send down Berken. And while they're at it, they need to release Hill and send Ray back to Norfolk to work on his "fastball command" or whatever nonsense explanation they want to give.

I fault primarily Roberts for the dropped pupup, although clearly Markakis was also at fault for not charging the ball. Roberts was going out on the ball so confidently and nonchalantly that it obvously gave Markakis the false impression that he had it all the way. Then Roberts stopped at the last second and looked over at Markakis. Of course, neither of them fielded his position properly.

The reason I watch very little baseball anymore is the lack of hustle. Trying your hardest 100% of the time is the only thing a play has total control over. I understand the big money takes incentive away, but you should have the intestinal fortitude to concentrate and try your hardest on every pitch for your teammates, fans and YOURSELF. I play in an over-50 softball league -- no one dogs it . And when the O's have a bulldog like Bergesen they should allow him to throw 120-130 pitches -- he has good mechanics and throws strikes.

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Pete's reply: Just so you don't write in in September when Bergesen is suffering from elbow fatigue and rip the manager for burning him out.

NO ONE on the Orioles 2009 Roster will ever play on an ORIOLE Championship team!!!

I've been saying since last year this team will never win under Trembley even with better players because he can't get the team to play as a collective.They need a fresh face with fresh ideas to turn around the culture of losing and get these guys to believe in themselves.His post game comments always sounds like he just watched the game in the stands, not that he's in charge of anything.

Even worse is I don't have any confidence in McPhail hiring someone better than Trembley or making trades that will help the team.He almost made the dumb trade with the Cubs last year if they would have added one more bum player.He doesn't have a very good working relationship with other GM's because he's trying to hold them up,over valuing our players and he takes too long to make a decision.

John,

AM did take way too long this season deciding to trade Baez, last year with Sherrill BROB etc if your gonna trade guys do it when the value is high don’t just sit there and think about it like Bud Selig makes decisions!

Lets trade crybaby Mora and get rid of Hill and Pie and bring up a few more young players from the minors. Also Trembley has to go either now or at least by the end of the season.

Bring back a winner Davey Johnson and play ball the Oriole way again.

fun to watch posters who post from their work computers while they are being paid to work talk about players not caring and not giving 100%.

I am reminded of the days after 9/11 when CNN ran a poll asking where bin Laden was hiding and millions of Americans actually had an opinion. God bless America where even a rudimentary knowledge of a subject is not necessary to be convinced that our opinions are worth posting. Where we all know our rights but steadfastly maintain our ignorance of the corresponding responsibilities.

I agree Berken needs work , but he at least pitches to a decision usually he does not get enough run support, he held the red sox to four runs in the first game of the series last week I think we should be talking about Hill He needs another pitch badly.Ray may be injured still from an article I read on MLB.com and he needs to be in the minors till he has a ERA under 2.00 consistently. Berken should work out of the pen, Bring up Tillman for his spot And Hill Should go to AAA maybe bring up Chris Waters because he has some experience in the majors ?

I hear Berken is headed back to Norfolk