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July 28, 2009

Orioles: Hill comes up sore just in time

richhillSUN.jpgOf course you're skeptical about Rich Hill's sore shoulder. Who wouldn't be, after he admits to being sore right at the moment when it looks like he's going to be waived and possibly outrighted to the minor leagues?

Now, to be fair, maybe he has been pitching hurt the past few outings, but his track record indicates that his control problems are as much mental as physical. He's a decent fellow and I hope the Orioles find a way to straighten him out, but it's hard to project him ever being a truly dependable starting pitcher.

This apparent case of shoulder tendinitis is convenient for the Orioles, since they can DL Hill now and work on his mechanics out of public view for the next month or two. Maybe the club just got lucky -- if a real injury can be considered that -- but if Hill is using some mild discomfort to extend his stay on a major league roster, he certainly wouldn't be the first guy to do that.

Frankly, I was kind of hoping that Chris Gomez would come up with a phantom hammy strain when he fell victim to the roster crunch this spring, but Chris chose to take his release and look for work elsewhere.

I don't know if something like that is happening with Hill, and I don't think it's going to make a whole lot of difference in the greater scheme of things.

Sun photo by Gene Sweeney, Jr.

Posted by Peter Schmuck at 1:44 PM | | Comments (23)
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I really can not bear to watch Hill or Berken any longer. I was really pulling for Hill and Berken seems like the next R. Liz (a guy that keeps getting starts and dunno why). Enough already. Okay, you do not want to "rush" more young guys, but Waters has been here before, give him some starts.

So Pete who is going to be our big time FA pitcher this off-season?? Carmona? Wang? hahahah

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Pete's reply: I don't think there's an "h" at the end of hahaha.

Pete, do the O's have a sports psychologist on staff? I am being serious...It was Yogi I believe who said, "90 percent of everything is half mental." Obviously the guys like Hill, Olson, Penn, Liz who we have seen flounder over the years have the talent and tools to get here, but it seems the mental toughness and confidence is lacking. A good sports psychologist can work wonders. Just wondering?


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Pete's reply: I don't think they have one on staff, but they do have people for the players to talk to if they need some help with the mental part of it.

You're right Pete - how convenient. I guess the O's could DL him, but until he develops a third pitch or discovers some movement on his fastball, it won't be any different if he regains his health.

Just read on MLB.com, the Dodgers are interested in Sherrill and the Orioles would want Scott Elbart in return. Do you know anything about him (his stats didn't look too good, but that could be due to his inexperience or whatever). Thanks.

Pete, is there anything a club must do to confrim that a player who is about to be placed on the DL is truly ailing, or can it be just a convenient alternative to having to make a more permanent decision? Are there any medical reports involved that must be filed with the league, or is it "we'll take your word for it, wink,wink"?

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Pete's reply: Yes, there are forms, but I wasn't insinuating the team is doing anything. I was talking about players. It's hard to disprove a guy has a sore shoulder.

It is more hard to prove he does not have a tendinitis issue. He will go to the DL after the Doctor visit.

Its called a Dontrelle Willis. Should have done this to Guthrie earlier in the season to fix his WBC made problems

Maybe it wasn't Hill's idea about the injury? Maybe it was the team's idea. Maybe they talked to him in the dugout while the game was going on and they still feel that they could get something out of him and the only way to do that with the current roster is to put him on the DL. I am by no means a Hill supporter (with the way that he has been pitching), but maybe it was the club's decision and not his. Maybe Andy doesn't want to see this as another Cubs-O's failure.

Hey Pete,
If the O's do go on a managerial search after this season do you think there's any chance of a Davey Johnson return? I know there was talk of that a year or so back and apparently he was asked and did not say "no".

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Pete's reply: I've got a better chance of winning the MegaMillions than seeing Peter hire Davey back.

Peter,

Any predictions on tonight's game? I think the Orioles could've had Bannister before the beginning of this season.

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Pete's reply: I better get out of the prediction business, with my recent track record.

Hey, as long as we are talking Manager change, I see Bobby Valentine will not return to the Giants in Japan next year. I take that as an announcement he is looking. Works well with kids, knows ins and outs of game, speaks Japanese and would have some inside info on available Japanese players. Not sure if he would be a good fit, and I like Dave, but it is sushi for thought.

Peter,
Is Hill really a nice guy? Or do they just say that?


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Pete's reply: Every time I've been around him I thought he was a nice guy. Nobody has told me otherwise.

Two bizarre things about this. First, I've been following sports for many years and very rarely if ever can I recall a player appologizing for poor on field performances. Hill's 'apology' gives me the impression of a guy who has lost confidence because most players are brought up to shrug bad play off.
The 2nd item is Trembley's assurtation that Mon. game robbed us of the momentum gained from Sunday's win!! Think about that one for awhile!! We are 2-8 since the All-Star break and the word momentum shouldn't even be mentioned. Again, Trembley is illustrating he's grasping at straws and picking on a guy who I can't help but feel sorry for in his lame efforts to make excuses...

Liar liar pants on fire. Oriole fans have had to put up with bogus excuses for years. Read my lips please. It doesn't matter who is going to make the call on Hill or for what reason. The bottom line is he currently can't do the job so send him far, far away. And while you are at it, return Mickolio to the roster and deep six Baez.

The question is: Will Hill be on the 40 Man roster for the off-season?? Do the O's really need or want him that much to keep him hangin' on??


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Pete's reply: That's a very good question. I would think not, unless something changes pretty dramatically over the next month or two.

Pete you know i am always going to play devils advocate. Why does it seem that the orioles are going way out of there way with Pie and Hill, two former cubs that andy has gone out of his way to make successful even when it's clearly evident especially in hills case that he can't be. Any other player and they would have already designiated them for assignment. Is it possible because he has traded for them that they get additional chances that other players wouldn't.


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Pete's reply: Yes, but I think Pie is coming along in his present role. Not so high on Hill.

Pete,

I know this is off-topic, but what do you make of the whole Michael Phelps thing? Is the world's best - and maybe the sport's all-time best - really going to use a swimsuit as an excuse for his loss?

On the surface, both suits look similar, and even of the other guy's did give him an edge, Phelps wouldn't have seemed to me like the kind of guy to use that as a reason for losing.

Your thoughts?


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Pete's reply: I'll have to get back to you on this. I haven't been following it today. Doing show prep and a column.

It doesnt matter. Hill is done.

Berken is young and actually had a few good starts despite not getting some offensive help.

Peter how come you are not reporting much about trade deadline?? Is there any talk about the trading any players besides our closer. I would love to see the O's deal Huff and some other bats to the giants for Madison Bumgarner. His stats are 11 starts 1.56 ERA 7 wins 1 loss 69.1 innings pitched 52 k's 20 walks and batters are hitting .199 against him this year. by the way he is pitching against the baysox tonight.

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Pete's reply: Didn't the Giants just acquire Ryan Garko? I haven't spent much time on the trade deadline because I'm not as close to that as Jeff Zrebiec and Dan Connolly. I'm kind of immobile right now, so I'm not able to circulate as much as I normally would.

Hey Pete,
I know I went off on DT a little with my post yesterday, but you have to realize it was 115 degrees here yesterday and patience runs thin! Seriously, my frustration with our managerial situation over the last 10 years or so has been that we have become like the Royals, Pirates, and Marlins. Every time those guys hire a manager, everyone has the same reaction, "WHO??". I know Mr. A is not a fan of big named managers ever since the Davey issue occurred, but I truly think that this is the time for that type of manager. I am hoping that the same wisdom that allowed him to hire and support Andy McPhail allows him to get the kind of established and successful manager that this team desperately needs. I would imagine that several managers would salivate at the thought of the potential this team has. My vote would be for Bobby Valentine. He knows how to run a lockerroom and is used to the pressure of managing in tight races. The fact that he is well known in Japan can only help our exposure there as well. We need someone with some swagger.

I think more than anything, this is the missing piece to this puzzle (taking for granted that the pitching comes along as planned). Whether it is Valentine, Davey Johnson, Showalter, Leyland or anyone else of that mold, we need a manager that this team and these fans can get excited about. I agree these managers would not have changed the fortunes of the past 10 years, we just didn't have the talent. This team, however is primed for success. We need a proven leader to complete the transformation from doormats to serious contenders.
Hope you are feeling better and remember, it could be worse. You could be in a cast living somewhere where the temps are pushing 115....


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Pete's reply: Tony, you're right, but it's a dry heat. It's hot and muggy here in Baltimore, but I'm doing fine, thanks.

Can we please stop pitching to Billy Butler??? Seriously....

If he is going to hit this good @ OPACY, we should look to get him in an O's uniform...

Nothing against Trembley but it seems like the team needs a new face.

BJ Surhoff for manager! He won't stand for a losing streak. He will make players play hard. A lot of Orioles fans have a love and respect for BJ after all of his seasons in Baltimore. He knows what its like to play with pressure. How it feels to be a #1 pick. How to work as a catcher, infielder and outfielder. He has seen baseball from every angle.

Regarding the AZ heat, may I point out that one roasts a turkey in a dry oven...

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