Good for Huff--but let's call Jeremy "Gopher Ball Guthrie."

Why was Guthrie in so long? I'm pretty sure I have no clue what Trembley is doing when it comes to leaving pitchers in or taking them out. (And for the record, I thought Guthrie should have never started the inning. This isn't a hindsight comment.)

Sad but true: When Guthrie got through 6 innings giving up 4 runs (6.00 era), I was kind of relieved. Maybe the O's should have their own definition of "quality start."

On a happier note: Has anyone else noticed Wieters smacking the ball lately? He's .320-plus since the break. No homers, but that's okay. It's very common for a young percentage hitter to develop power as he matures, but the opposite almost never happens.

Guthrie was over 100 pitches, has an ERA about 5 1/2, and there are several relievers who would have been a safer bet for the 7th inning: Albers (used a batter too late),Meredith, Bass--anyone of them would have statistically been a much better choice than Guthrie. Just like it took 3 games too many for Trembley and MacPhail to figure out that Eaton, Hendrickson and Hill didn't belong in the rotation, it hasn't yet dawned on Trembley that Guthrie is not an ace this year. He's having a terrible season and should be removed in the late innings with the game on the line.

Jesus christ can we get a veteran thats worth a crap. Im so sick of guthrie. He's pathetic thats about twice tonight we have grabbed the lead back only for him to give it right back up?

Postscript to above: Please note that Francona was too smart to make the same mistake as Trembley--he knew he was fortunate to have the lead after Smoltz's 6 innings, and he went to the bullpen rather than leaving his ineffective starter in.

Simply horrible managing. Please everbody, admit that Trembley is not qualified to manage at this level. Why do we even have a bullpen if you are going to trot out your gopher ball starter to face the top of their order? Thanks for giving the momentum back to the Sox.

Here comes the lefthander in the 8th because Trembley refuses to break up Markakis and Huff. What is so difficult about making out a lineup that puts the pressure on the opposing manager!!

Final thought on the stupidity of leaving in Guthrie: Albers and Meredith pitched 2 1/3 hitless, scoreless innings. There is a high probability that if they had pitched 3 innings rather than 2 1/3 the Orioles would have won 5-4. Credit this defeat to Trembley.

DT still doesn't quite have the timing down does he?
Pulls em to early, leaves em in too long...
and it's not always hindsight...
not exactly reason for great hope with him at the helm

Guthrie never ceases to amaze me. He constantly pitches down the middle. The HR ball is hurting him so bad now. If he ever decides to watch Bergeson, the way he pitches to the corners. Bergy pitches the right way. Guthrie is proving to me that he is no more than the 4th ot 5th starter the way he pitches. We scored enough runs to win but Guthrie clearly lost this game. And Trembley should have known better than to let him go back out after 95 pitches. So Trembley can also accept the blame for this loss.

Ahhh summer at Fenway South…

Final thought on the stupidity of leaving in Guthrie: Albers and Meredith pitched 2 1/3 hitless, scoreless innings. There is a high probability that if they had pitched 3 innings rather than 2 1/3 the Orioles would have won 5-4. Credit this defeat to Trembley.

If that happened JJ would have come in and blown the save. Then we'd get more complaints about the trade. I would like to see Nick and Huff split up in the lineup though. I don't want to put too much pressure on Reimold but if he can handle it I'd say use him in the cleanup spot.

Roberts, Jones, Markakis, Reimold, Huff/Scott, Wieters, Huff/Scott, Mora, Izturis.

Wieters has been hitting well enough to justify moving him up in the order. There is no reason for him to be hitting behind Mora and he can break up the the lefty's in Scott or Huff. Huff looks like he may be starting to heat up again he has been hitting the ball hard the last few games and finally got that elusive 200th homer. One last comment I didn't have the opportunity to watch the whole game but see that Adam Jones only saw 10 pitches in his 4 AB's. Not sure if it was Crowley's gameplan to go right after Smoltz or what but I'd like to see him be a bit more selective, thats how he was able to go yard the last few games working counts. Oh well he is having a great season and continues to mature as a hitter.

Gee it has taken Huff that long to reach 200 home runs hhit in the major league career. Mr. Schmuck, when did you ever "HIT A HOMER"?

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Pete's reply: Well, I once slapped Jim Hunter. Does that count?

Dave Trembley kicked my dog and took away the school lunch program. He also is against helping war veterans.

Lighten up peeps... it is not DT's fault Guthrie keeps hanging breaking balls fat at the belt.

another thing about Huff...

AM was good to not give Huff away at the deadline. Next season he can come back through arbitration, give him 8-10 bucks, if he refuses, the O's get several compensatory draft picks.

Historically, these comp draft picks pan out far greater than prospects recieved via deadline trades. I can't find the link, it was from a while back on Stark's page on Espn.com

Dave Trembley has no chance with Baltimore fans, who just can't seem to make up their minds. Don't sit there and tell me you guys wouldn't have lit Trembley up if the bullpen blew the lead instead of Guthrie. The Orioles were holding a one run lead against a better team. How about you give credit to the Red Sox for winning a game they should have. Why is that so difficult to understand with you people? You do not hold one run leads against great teams over the final 4 innings. Putting this loss on Trembley is simply moronic.

Pete's reply: Well, I once slapped Jim Hunter. Does that count?

Please don't elaborate. LOL

So Guthrie should never go back out after 95, but a rookie should go back out after 102?

It can really be mind numbing keeping up with the logic around here sometimes.

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Charlie