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June 9, 2009

Jordan: The other two draft picks

Orioles director of amateur scouting Joe Jordan gave Dan Connolly a quick scouting report on the two players the Orioles took after Matt Hobgood in Tuesday's first three rounds of the First Year Player Draft.

Mychal Givens (Second round, 54th overall): Givens is a high school pitching/infield prospect from Tampa who was drafted as a shortstop even though his fastball topped out at 97 mph.

Jordan's take: "I don't think he slipped (in the draft). I just think it was one of those things where there was some inventory with high school shortstops. He's going to have a bat and there's power there. We think there's potential for both. He throws 96, 97 off the mound, (but) because of the position he plays, that's something we will definitely try first."

Tyler Townsend (Third round, 85th overall): He's a left-handed hitter out of Florida International University who played right field and first base. He's projected as a left fielder or first baseman as a pro.

Jordan's take: He's thrilled to death he's going to be an Oriole. that's where he wanted to go. we considered him in the second round. The fact that he was there in the third, we feel really good about that....We all love our picks right now, but we got three guys we targeted, and that's a good start in any draft."

Posted by Peter Schmuck at 11:03 PM | | Comments (17)
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Don't you find it amusing when you get posts like the follow? I guess the person (I"m trying to be polite) never heard of Cal Ripken nor Eddie Murray. I think both fall into the category of "ever" and "productive". At least I hope so.
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Have the Orioles EVER drafted a high school player who: 1) Made it to the Majors; 2) Had a productive Major League career?

Sorry, but I smell the stench of Adam Loewen and Billy Rowell in our 1st & 2nd round choices.
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Dave, I'm not against the pick of Hobgood per se, but if they were gonna take a less-touted guy with the fifth pick, why didn't they trade down? Would there have been any takers? I don't know as much about the MLB draft as the NFL draft, but I know the Ravens would never draft a guy with the fifth pick that was expected to stay on the board into the teens or twenties. They would trade down, get him, and get an extra pick as well.


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Pete's reply: They can't trade down. MLB does not allow teams to trade draft picks (or drafted players for a set period).

Pete, It was a good day on many fronts. Three solid draft picks bodes well for further stocking the minors. Givens and Townsend are nice additions to the top pick in Hopgood, who put up some very impressive numbers in high school.

You mentioned saying you saw something of Ponson in him, and when I looked at the video the likeness is definitely there. I thought of Ponson before I read your comments. I think his delivery is a little smoother, though, and a bit less encumbered by his weight than was Sir Sidney's.

But he also reminded me of Clemens a lot, as well. I thought of the two almost simultaneously. The Becket and Gossage comparisons also have merit.

And really, that's four talented pitchers, because regardless of how Ponson's career took a nosedive, there's no question that he deserved to be in the majors. And you'll recall that for the brief stretch when he was at the very top of his game, he was good enough for a contending team to trade for him.

I think Hopgood is going to be special. I don't know about Clemens special, but he looks like he can have a tremendous upside, just as high as Tillman, Matusz and Arrieta if not higher.

Bergesen is really starting to establish himself as a dependable starter. There were scoffers who didn't think his stuff was good enough to fool major league teams the second time they saw him, but he's had two solid starts against Seattle within a week, so I think he's dispelling that idea.

That the Orioles finally were able to get out to an early lead is encouraging, and I think signals that their bats are going to be awakening soon. Reimold is certainly impressive and Wieters, I think, is poised to start asserting himself. And Andino is proving to be a big steal by MacPhail.

If Guthrie and Koji can build on Bergie's outing, maybe the O's can get some wins and take the bad taste of that road trip out of everyone's mouth.

Pete- Regarding the O's Hobgood pick , I chose to be cautiously optimistic for several reasons , one is this pick looks like a reach , another is 'signability ' pick , this kid has credentials , but Brian Matuz he is not . But then again , I am not McPhail or Jordan , their reputations are on the line , not mine .

So Pete , will we revisit and analyze this pick/draft in 2012 ?


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Pete's reply: If you can guarantee me I'll still be here in three years, sure.

Pete, I am curious how you feel on this matter, but I for one, am sick of people saying this guy is a bad pick because they read that he is not as good as some other guys in a magazine. I'm all for questioning the coaches, players, etc., that we have all seen on a daily basis, but to say flat out that this kid is a bad pick when I doubt anyone who posts here, saw him or any of the other picks in the draft, play more than 1 or 2 games is absurd, as the equivalent is to say that you hate an author when you never read one of his or her books.

The other thing that upsets me is the O's are cheap and draft guys that they can sign for low money. How did we get Wieters? Sure as heck wasn't with a lifetime supply of Boog's BBQ. This organization deserves a lot of criticism for the last 11 years, but in the time that Joe and Andy have been here, what have they done to not get the benefit of the doubt? Was it because the M's didn't throw in Ichiro in the Bedard deal?


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Pete's reply: I don't get the "cheap" thing either. The Orioles have spend more money on their first round picks than anybody the past couple of years.

Can a 1st baseman handle a 97 MPH throw from SS?

I'm happy with the O's picks so far,hopefully there's no snags on signing them.


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Pete's reply: You'd be surprised how hard some of the SS in the major leagues throw.

you may not want to offend him by misspelling his name from Day 1....it is Mychal Givens

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Peter's reply: Thanks. I'll fix that.

The Givens choice was superb!!!

Mychal Givens is a premium athlete whose game resembles Jimmy Rollins.

He's got that kind of talent.

Peter- Here is the video of Hobgood watching the draft with his friends and family if you wanna post it. It is awesome because you know he wanted to come here.
Did you know his father died in 2005? That has to be tough. Because you think of fathers and sons and baseball and getting drafted and not seeing that happen. Oh well.
He seems like a good kid. Can you pull all of my post where I said that Reimold has 35+ HR power and not to count him out of the ROY? LOL!!
The O's are on their way!

http://www.hsgametime.com/inlandsoutherncalifornia/videopage.html?nvid=369847

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Pete's reply: Ryan, I did post that last night in the same entry that had the other video. I just updated that entry with the second video.

Pete,

When the Orioles bring someone in for a workout do they check for PEDs? When you look at the top two draft picks all my cynical mind can see are before and after pictures.

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Pete's reply: No, I don't think they can test for that, since they have no rights to the player.

Tyler's parents and my wife are good friends and Tyler's high-school baseball coach works in my wife's family business. We all have high hopes for Tyler and his family who are part owners of a local baseball complex are absolutely thrilled Tyler's going to the 'local' team.

Its great to see these kids so excited to come to the Orioles. The benefit of dedicating your franchise to the youth movement is that it sends out a clarion call to every hungry young prospect that they can play themselves onto the field very quickly if they prove themselves. I hope day 2 and on is as good as day 1 in terms of getting solid ball players.

Sounds like a good group of picks..... Returning to an old subject of mine, I see that Trembley has finally separated Markakis and Huff in the batting order. I'm curious whether you ever brought this up with him, Peter, or did he finally figure it out on his own?

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Pete's reply: No, I didn't bring it up. He just decided to do that when the team fell into that deep slump. They were doing just fine for the first six weeks the other way, but when things go bad, you shake things up.

Alll the People bashing our Draft Pick have not one clue about the MLB draft.

They have never even heard of, or seen 99% of these players. How are they to bash a selection? Do they think the O's just picked out of a hat and hoped for the best? There was only one "can't miss" prospect this year according to the experts. He went #1 as we all know. AND HE CAN STILL MISS. (see Ben McDonald) The Draft is the biggest gamble, there are many more misses than stars in the First Round. Just look back at past drafts, and there are more names you have never heard of, drafted in the First Round than ones you know and have made it to the "big Time".

It is funny to crtitisize this draft. In 3-5 years we can look back and start to judge how this draft went. I am sure there will be players taken in the 4-27 rounds that will do better and be MLB stars, but it will be all hindsight. Drafting MLB players is very hard to do well. Every team out there has draft busts on "cant' miss" players.

I say we have to trust our "newer" Drafting team of Joe Jordan and Andy McPhail. They seem to have gotten good players recently in the draft.

I love that they are still going for pitching.

Pete,
You may want to check out this video. It documents Hobgood and his family and friends during yesterdays' events. He really does look exhilarated to be an Oriole.

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Pete's reply: Yes, I updated last night and posted it with the entry called Hobgood: The videos.

I like the Townsend pick. Looks like he's got good power and solid plate discipline.

I'm following the draft now. The only pick I'm confused about is pick 146, a lefty pitcher named Ashur Tolliver. His college stats are pretty terrible.

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Pete's reply: I'm not on it right now. I'm sure I'll hear more from the O's about their picks later in the day.

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