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June 25, 2009

Conflicted about Pie

felixap.jpgWhile we're throwing out obscure and altered references from my favorite movie comedy -- Airplane -- I might as well do it one more time:

Funny, Peter has never been conflicted about Pie before.

It's pronounced Pee-AY, of course, and I am conflicted about Felix Pie on so many levels I'm not really sure what I think about him. Last night's stumbles notwithstanding, I think Felix (shown at right after beating a throw to third during last week's big comeback against the Mets) might turn out to be a great No. 4 outfielder who can fill several roles on the Orioles bench if he can get his game together. But I'm not confident that will ever happen and I wonder if fans are ever going to warm up to him.

What I do think is that the Orioles will eventually be forced into deciding between Pie and Lou Montanez, and if I had to make that decision right now, I would probably go with Lou. Since that decision does not have to be made for awhile, I suspect this isn't the last time he is a hot topic of discussion here.

Guess we'll see what comes out of the meeting Dave Trembley is expected to have with Pie later this afternoon, though I agree with some posters that his treatment of Pie last night was unusually harsh in light of the many fundamental blunders from other more-established players that have not received the same kind of public rebuke.

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Posted by Peter Schmuck at 3:04 PM | | Comments (54)
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Comments

Come on, Pete?

Does anyone (including Dave Trembley) take Pie seriously?


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Pete's reply: Andy certainly does. I don't know how Dave really feels about him.

to me the decision is not that difficult replace pie with lou. pie is in the majors,if he doesn't have the needed baseball instincts now he never will have them to stay in the majors.

And therin lies the rub, as they say. He isn't taken seriously, for in the fans' eyes, the golden boys (Wieters and Reimold) have arrived. Pie, who wasn't wanted (a stumbling block for GB #2) in the first place has now been relegated to official whipping boy for any and all team failures that occur with him (Pie) within a mile of the ballpark. The man has not,been given, nor would I suspect he ever wii be given, a fair chance. The fans clamored for Reimold from day one, and Felix's gaffes, and there have been a few, have been magnified, and criticized since. I know it hasn't helped that Reimold has outperformed Felix thus far, but Reimold has had more seasoning, been better established within the organization, and certainly been shown more respect, than Felix. I just hope that sometime, someplace, someone gives Felix a real chance. Not a play a game sit two, play three, sit six, play three sit two tryout, a "real" go out and play, we'll see what you have in six weeks chance. But then, Felix is blocking our path to the playoffs, right? Well, I just hope he gets that chance, if not here, someplace, anyplace.

Go O's!

Wow. I just read Trembley's remarks about Pie. I was always taught to "Praise in public and scold in private."
I just find it odd that Trembley called out Pie who has only made a couple starts in the last month but said nothing (in public anyway) about the regular players move.
Maybe its his frustration coming to a boiling point. I don't know. But, it was done in very poor taste.

And therin lies the rub, as they say. He isn't taken seriously, for in the fans' eyes, the golden boys (Wieters and Reimold) have arrived. Pie, who wasn't wanted (a stumbling block for GB #2) in the first place has now been relegated to official whipping boy for any and all team failures that occur with him (Pie) within a mile of the ballpark. The man has not,been given, nor would I suspect he ever wii be given, a fair chance. The fans clamored for Reimold from day one, and Felix's gaffes, and there have been a few, have been magnified, and criticized since. I know it hasn't helped that Reimold has outperformed Felix thus far, but Reimold has had more seasoning, been better established within the organization, and certainly been shown more respect, than Felix. I just hope that sometime, someplace, someone gives Felix a real chance. Not a play a game sit two, play three, sit six, play three sit two tryout, a "real" go out and play, we'll see what you have in six weeks chance. But then, Felix is blocking our path to the playoffs, right? Well, I just hope he gets that chance, if not here, someplace, anyplace.

Go O's!

the acquisition of felix pie has been macphail's only conceit so far. given the superb job that macphail has done since coming to the o's, i guess we can allow him one. but, i think that the time has come for macphail to give up his project and move on. pie don't get it.

No matter how you slice it, Pie is awful. (bad pun)

I kinda agree with a fellow sportcaster friend of yours, Bruce, who ended his two hour fan induced Pie throwing contest by saying that if he's a 5 tool player he'd just like to see 1 of them. He also said that in his 20 years of broadcasting Pie was the worst ballplayer he had ever seen. Maybe a stretch but I'm having trouble coming up with another one based on what we've seen from Felix so far. I say to Andy, cut your losses and let go of both Pie & Koji (maybe Peter can use his considerable legal skills to desolve the $10m contract) and move on. Don't spoil the goodwill already generated this year.

He started off stone cold, but just when everyone was saying, "We need to give him a little bit longer" and rolling out the litany of slow starters who turned out to be great, they decided they wouldn't cut him any slack and they benched him. In fact, since May 2 he's been hitting .283/.340/.457 (BA/OBP/SLG) for an OPS of .797. (He's even better when we just look at June.) That's over a span of 50 at bats, which isn't huge but not too small. A .797 is hardly impressive, but if he kept hitting at that clip he'd be doing better than many other big name players this year, including Matt Holliday, Dustin Pedroia and Grady Sizemore. Yes, each of those players is having a down year, and I'm not saying that in the long run he'll have anywhere near the productivity we expect from those guys, but the point is that if we give him a mulligan on May he's performing solidly. As to baserunning issues, well, as you noted, this entire team needs to get some remedial baserunning instruction.

So yeah, logiopath: I take Pie seriously, and I hope I'm not alone!

(a mulligan on April, not May, sorry)

The headline should have read "Pie in the Face!"

This guy is just a Corey Patterson clone. I'm still wondering why the rebuilding of the Orioles doesn't continue with a major housecleaning of the has-been base cloggers and the never-will-bes like Pie.

Trade the veteran and slow-footed Huff while he still has considerable trade value, and unload the veteran and baserunning clown Mora. Open space for the younger, quicker, more eager players. While we're at it, trade B-Rob while is value is still high.

I'm seeing an outfield of Reimold-Jones-Markakis for the next decade, and an infield of Salazar at third, Izturis at short, Andino at Second, and Brandon Snyder at first (or perhaps the newly-acquired Michael Aubrey). Wieters at catcher, of course, and a starting 5 of Bergesen, Tillman, Matusz, Guthrie and Arrieta. Move Kohi to the bullpen where he can go up to 5 innings, which is his limit anyway. Berken may become a great set-up guy with that sinker of his. Troy Patton and David Hernandez are due to the Big Show too. Trade Sherrill while he's got value. Chris Ray can stay, if he's back on track. Jim Johnson is just good. That rounds out the staff. Dump the rest except for Brian Bass. He still has good potential to be a long reliever like Koji or 6th-7th inning guy getting to the set-up men.

Keep Luke Scott and Lou Montanez available for DH and/or spot outfield duty. Zahn is a decent backup catcher. Wigginton is a good bench player.

So clean house, get the young guys here who are eager to play hard and don't pull bone-headed defensive or baserunning blunders, and bring on the young arms. What the heck do we have to lose? And trading Mora, Huff, B-Rob and Sherrill might bring even a greater influx of young talent.

What are we waiting for?


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Pete's reply: A decent offer for one of them, maybe.

mmmmm.... Pie.....

I echo those posters re: Trembley's Pie comments. Ironically,it's Trembley who looks bad. Here's a guy who isn't practising what he preaches...He was all about doing things the right way,etc and then he goes and blasts a guy in public and exhibiting a double standard to boot. You can bet he wouldn't publicly blast Jones or Markakis if they make the same mistake.
Shortly after Trembley came on board, he said his team would be fundamently sound, etc. and we are far from it 3 years later. It's one thing to lack talent but it doesn't take a lot of talent to hustle and at least run the bases properly.
I hope we salvage the last game of this series because things have a history of unravelling fast. His latest outburst suggests that maybe he might start losing the clubhouse because I'm sure many players are wondering if they are next to be publically bashed. I'm also sure that some players aren't all that thrilled with some of Dave's moves either...

So many great lines...

"The cockpit, what is it?"
"Its the place in the front of the plane where the pilots sit, but that's not important right now"

"That's an entirely different kind of flying altogether"
All: "That's an entire different kind of flying"

Best movie EVER!

Pie reminds me of Willie Mays Hayes except he doesn't hit or run the bases as well. We need to try to get him through waivers and get him some time in the minors and if someone else actually wants him then so be it. He's never going to get better if he never plays and he's never going to play unless someone gets hurt. There's no reason he should be here, especially as well as Gathright is playing.

Really disliked the way Trembley handled this. Whether Pie is or isn't going to be a productive player is one thing, but I seriously dislike the double standard his comments displayed. He hasn't treated the rest of the rosters miscues, and there have been plenty, that way.

I have to say that at this point I take Montanez over Pie also. That said I also play Wigginton at third and let Mora sit for a few days. Mora hasn't done squat this season and maybe age is catching up to him. Also, we all know that Wieters apparently walks on water like the Chosen One Obamessiah, but when is he ever going to block home plate on a play? Chad Moeller did it all the time. You would think someone as big as Wieters is would be able to block the plate instead of his 'ole' sweeping tag attempts. And Pie isn't the only player that has made boneheaded plays on the basepaths. See Brian Roberts and Melvin Mora.

It's hard to block the plate when the throws are up the line all the time. Geez - cut the guy some slack. It's not his fault he's been hyped this bad.

You've got to be kidding. Pie has absolutely no clue, at the plate, in the field, on the basepaths, the O's fans came to that decision long before Trembley (or you). In the last 10+ years the O's have consistently picked up veterans on the decline because they were a "name". Here they picked up a young guy, who has had a "name" when drafted, in minors etc but has NEVER performed, even in the minors. As he stumbled and bumbled through these first months I have grown so tired of O's radio and tv announcers etc. making excuses for him such as "he's still learning". This has been heard constantly in recent years as young players called up can't bunt, run bases, throw to right bases, judge pitches and on... Man, that's what high school, college, and minors ball is---if you call a guy up who can't bunt, run the bses, or no where to throw---then the guys making those personnel decisions (and coahing in minors) are greatly to blame. In contrast, Nolan Reimold, a young guy much less touted and not handed a spot on active roster like Pie, has really impressed me with strike zone judgment, steady defense, making adjustments at plate based on game situation, pitcher etc.
Watching guys like Pie put out on the field frustrates O's fans BECAUSE it continues to show the poor judgment of who can play baseball that has plagued the O's for many years. Do you think Earl Weaver would continue to put up with this kind of play???
Don't blame the fans---most O's fans know what REAL baseball players look like. Peace to All

"Don't blame the fans---most O's fans know what REAL baseball players look like."

Yeah, the opposition. Just kidding, Got to keep my sense of humor in these trying times as we decide the fate of our 5th outfielder with the best case scenario future of being a 4th outfielder/pinchrunneroutatsecond

Pete,I'll clear up your conflict about Pie.Try to eat your favorite kinds as often as possible.I love Texas Hold-em and have won several 30 man tables and finished in the top 10 on a couple of 100 man once,3rd being my highest.Had 2 aces in my hand,went all in,with two 2's and an ace on the table and lost to a guy with 2 2's in his hand.What are the odds?Today I am goingto refrain from making any baseball related statements,at leat until after the game.Had knee surgery yesterday and with the medicine I'm on,who knows what might come out.12 th place isn't too shabby.

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Pete's reply: Knee surgery. Ouch, feel better. Third place is great, and -- as my poker expert buddy pointed out to me today -- if you don't finish first, the last hand is always some kind of story.

I look at Pie and I see Jeff Stone.

Hey, nobody ever said baseball was fair. Nobody ever said that every prospect is owed the opportunity to maximize his development. Maybe in some alternate universe, Pie could get the right mix of support, coaching and opportunity to turn into a quality MLB player. But in this universe, he's gotten the chances that he's gotten and he has failed to capitalize. Unless he turns it around, and I mean RIGHT NOW, he's got to be gone.

I saw Pie play in Wrigley Field two years ago and was amazed at a fielding play that he made (just incredible range) and then further stunned by his terrible baserunning. For the poster who said Pie is the worst ballplayer he's seen in 20 years - did you forget Jeff Stone? Pie reminds me of a not-so-clueless Stone. There are obvious talents with Pie in his speed and arm, but he has no idea of the strike zone and just seems to have little feel for the game. I don't know if you can teach any of that. The big problem with Pie is that his skills are great but you can't trust him. Do you trust him as a pinch-runner to steal a base? What about as a defensive replacement? He has no power and doesn't walk much so he's not a decent pinch-hitter either. So how do you use him? Can you teach what he's lacking at the major league level? Since the O's have young outfielders at the major league level, how can you justify Pie as a potential starter here? I don't think you can and he's not skilled enough to just sit on the bench.

It's amazing that this discussion/argument is even being made. It was only a little while ago that Orioles fans were begging for a little youth talent. Unfortunately for Felix Pie, things are getting better here and he gets less than a 1/2 season to prove himself. At this point, I think Joey Gathright at Norfolk would be a much better fit as a 4th outfielder for this team. He brings speed and defense and probably a bit more baseball smarts.

Terrible blog. Embarrassing compared to Roch's. Step it up man.

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Pete's reply: Sorry for taking part of Wednesday and Thursday off. Don't know what I was thinking.

I don't have a sense of what Felix can or can't do because early on, he wasn't getting a lot of consecutive ABs, then Nolan stepped in and has been the man in LF (not complaining on that).

Dave Trembley is a walking contradiction. He talks about respecting the game and doing the little things right, but HIS team has been so awful with simple baseball fundamentals, but no consequences, as Brian can jog to first and he knows he wont get benched. Last season, Ramon got away with murder, but the one guy Dave can belittle in the media, is a backup OFer named Felix Pie. Dave comes across like a fool for belittling Pie, but not Wiggy or T Bone for that ridiculous play for 2nd base on Tuesday night.

Pete, you've been around the game a long time, you know that if the same rules don't apply for everyone, some guys will bend them or break them. If Dave put the hammer down on Brian, maybe the team would think if Brian isn''t immune, none of us are. Belittling Felix in my opinion, makes him look like a fool when he has let everything go under the radar.

His act had grown tiresome. Anyone can talk the talk and that's what Dave is doing.


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Pete's reply: I don't know what he was doing there. Some managers believe that you treat each player differently, based on how you feel best motivates the guy. I don't know if that is why Trembley was hard on Pie but never publicly calls out his vets, but I suppose that's a possibility.

Pete,

I'll ask the question again and hopefully it will be answered. I know you can answer them all but Trembley has to be held accountable for the O's not playing "Winning Team Baseball". This was a standard he himself asked to be judged on last year. He said the Orioles would play fundamentally sound, smart baseball no matter what their talent level. Well this clearly isn't happen and Trembley deserves to be taken to task for this considering it was his promise to Orioles fans as the manager of the club. He calls out Pie when Roberts, Jones, and others have been loafing all year. Jones nearly got thrown out at first a few games ago by the right fielder on a single. Part of me hoped that he was out so this could get more attention and maybe Trembley would actually hold them accountable. You can't deny that the Orioles are not playing "Winning Team Baseball" with all the errors and baserunning gaffes. Trembley needs to tighten up the ship or sail out.

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Pete's reply: Can't argue with the basic point. The Orioles are not playing good baseball on his watch, so they will either improve or it'll be tough to make a case for him beyond this year.

Sorry Pete, that was supposed to say "I know you CAN"T answer them all".

I think Pie was a smart gamble, but not one that is paying off. But let's face it, the O's aren't going anywhere this year, so it doesn't hurt to much to see if he can start to put it together. I give it a small chance, say maybe 20%. If we have to choose between Felix and Lou, choose Lou.

WPH,

Who are you going to take playing time away from to give Pie a chance? He needs at bats and he hasn't deserved to get them over Reimold or Montanez. Send him down and if he gets claimed so be it.

I can't speak for everybody,only myself,but it seems too refect the frustration that a lot of baseball fans feel with 12 losing season and the growing realization that 13 may be looming also if Trembley is still the manager.Since we can't talk to the manager or anybody in the front office,we can only use these pages to vent our frustrations.And since you are the blog's moderator,I'll concur that you probably bear the brunt of the fan's wrath,mostly unwarranted and undeserved.I will do my best to disregard our disagrements as such,and try to make only baseball observations.If you disagree with them,you have the right to comment or criticize,it's your blog after all.I've tried to point out certain instances or particular occassions when the fans booed when the move was made before the aftermath was decided,and have been told I'm second guessing.And if you can tell me you have never done that,I'll try to refrain from that as well.I think out of all the sportswritrs,you in particular have often been critical of Angelos and have previously noted that.I would hope that we can put our personal differences aside and discuss baseball unprejudiciously in the future.But as fans,our job doesn't require us to be unbiased or even fair,so we're held too a lower standard then you.Not saying that's right,just assuming that's a fact.And a think as of today most of us fans think that with the talent base we currently have,we should be playing better baseball then we are,both fundamentally and record-wise.Again,this is only my opinion and this is my nly place to truly express my frustration,because I still remain passionate about Orioles baseball,and will as long as I live,and I'm sure that can be said about 99% of the posters on here.We just want to see some continued improveent and maybe at least a .500 ballclub,sometime in the near future.


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Pete's reply: I certainly don't expect you to be unbiased. I tend to be a little more moderate than the average fan, but that's because I've been working around baseball so long that I don't let my emotions get tangled up in it as much as you might. And, don't get me wrong, it's great that you and others have that passion. I think you just have to understand my role is to remain a bit dispassionate and try to analyze the situations based on whatever experience I bring to the table. Doesn't mean I'm necessarily right, but that's what I have to offer here.

I don't really understand the criticism being dumped on Pie. The Orioles have had plenty of bad players recently, and I don't really remember people beating up on them all the time. Does he have a bad attitude or something? In the little that he plays, he seems like a real team player, celebrating what little he's allowed to contribute (pinch running) or jumping on Aubrey Huff after Huff's game winning hit.

Having said that, I'm not sure that Pie hasn't shown his full abilities yet. He's (supposedly) only 24 years old, and has an 825 OPS through seven minor league seasons. Not awesome, but decent. He's had only 357 ABs in the majors--about half a season's worth, spread out in bits and chunks here and there. That's not even close to enough time to figure out if he can hit at this level.

Unfortunately the O's already have three outfielders, and it's hard to give Pie the treatment Adam Jones got last year. And he's out of options, so they can't give him regular time at Norfolk. It's a tough situation, but it doesn't mean that Pie can't be a good major leaguer.

I can't speak for everybody,only myself,but it seems too reflect the frustration that a lot of baseball fans feel with 12 losing season and the growing realization that 13 may be looming also if Trembley is still the manager.Since we can't talk to the manager or anybody in the front office,we can only use these pages to vent our frustrations.And since you are the blog's moderator,I'll concur that you probably bear the brunt of the fan's wrath,mostly unwarranted and undeserved.I will do my best to disregard our disagrements as such,and try to make only baseball observations.If you disagree with them,you have the right to comment or criticize,it's your blog after all.I've tried to point out certain instances or particular occassions when the fans booed when the move was made before the aftermath was decided,and have been told I'm second guessing.And if you can tell me you have never done that,I'll try to refrain from that as well.I think out of all the sportswritrs,you in particular have often been critical of Angelos and have previously noted that.I would hope that we can put our personal differences aside and discuss baseball unprejudiciously in the future.But as fans,our job doesn't require us to be unbiased or even fair,so we're held too a lower standard then you.Not saying that's right,just assuming that's a fact.And I think as of today most of us fans think that with the talent base we currently have,we should be playing better baseball then we are,both fundamentally and record-wise.Again,this is only my opinion and this is my only place to truly express my frustration,because I still remain passionate about Orioles baseball,and will as long as I live,and I'm sure that can be said about 99% of the posters on here.We just want to see some continued improveent and maybe at least a .500 ballclub,sometime in the near future.

If the choice is Pie or Montanez it's a pretty easy decision, Pie. Pie is four years younger and at 24 should still be improving while Montanez at 27 is probably as good as he's going to get. This season they've basically been equivalent at the plate though Montanez has half the plate appearances. Also Pie is a much better fielder both this season and for his career and a much better baserunner. It's really not much of a decision if you look at it logically and not emotionally.

I'd like to have a slice of Pie after it has time to cook some more in fall ball. Nothing like raw dough to ruin a good piece of Pie. In the meantime, he's the child at the table getting in the way of the adults and keeping a seat from perhaps a teenager nearing adulthood (or so that is the thinking. The fact is, this kid isn't going to cost us a playoff spot or anything and it's not like he's keeping Tillman in the line-up and Koji out of the pen (where he would be lights out) so I think we should just suffer through the rest of the year through his obviously unrefined talent, but talent nonetheless. We've waited this long, until he becomes a true obstacle to winning meaningful games. Hopefully that means he has the rest of this year, this Fall and next Spring to work out the kinks. He shouldn't be taking too much time from Reimold though, but leave Scott as a DH (like he's ANY better than Pie with a glove) and let this kid spell the outfield occasionally.

Why is it that fans continuously look at the 24th & 25th men (i.e. Pie & Hendrickson) on a major league roster and blame them for the overall team's ineptitude? And now DT is going this route by calling out Pie and not others on the team. Tell Felix in the majors "you should never hold the ball no matter who the runner is". This isn't the Dominican Republic and you aren't daring the runner to go so you can show off your arm. This guy obviously needs someone to "teach" him the game at age 24. It's time to quit the scapegoating and do some real coaching.

I'm not a big fan of Pie, but I think he gets a lot more abuse than he really deserves as well. God knows the O's have made plenty of fielding and running blunders this season apart from his. As Cameron posted, I think it's about time we see some actual coaching being done on this team. They play some of the sloppiest, most fundamenatlly flawed baseball I've ever seen from an Oriole team.

I can't believe Trembly is makiing Pie an issue. How about if Dave starts to sit on his hands in the dugout so he can't continue to call for the hit and run which has put an end to many a promising inning or Adam Jones almost being thrown out at first on a single to right on Sunday or Markakis looking a the third strike lately. Dave - call out your starters and leave Felix alone!

Come on Peter.

Would you please have a decisive opinion about SOMETHING?

You make excuses for the teams' laziness and have made excuses for the owner for years.

Pie is the Kyle Boller of the Orioles. He's got all the talent and zero baseball IQ. He'll wow you with something like the catch to end the game earlier this year in TB then pull something like last night.

It's just like Cabrera. All the talent and no baseball IQ. I called you for years on your radio show and you'd defend Cabrera until you finally saw the light (3 years too late though).

What's really frustrating is the media in this town is so passive with regards to the Orioles. How about some tough questions posed to the manager about his "stars" who continually dog it (I know, they don't in your eyes) and make horrendous baserunning blunders.

DT is supposedly the king of fundamentally sound baseball yet oversees the least fundamentally sound team in the league.

I'm not talking about the ridiculous pressure cookers in NY and Boston but my goodness, how about pressing the guy a little.

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Pete's reply: Well, I write three columns per week and I think I express a lot of opinions. Maybe you should tell me the opinion you want me to express so I can express my opinion exactly the way you want my opinion to be expressed. That way I could make sure that my opinion is the opinion you want to hear.

the way trembley who is no more than average manager came down on pie was classless, particularly the considering the many base running and fielding mistakes so many other players have committed. that said andy has made two mistakes one was signing pie and i'm amazed that he thinks someone would claim pie if he was pout on waivers. who wants a 200 hitter with no power, who doesn't run the bases smartly and is lousy in the field. the other was signing koji as a starter, who should be pitching only out of the bullpen. try andino in centerfield if needed. andino started his career with the marlins in c.f. drop pie and keep salazar. personally i always preferred chocolate mousse cake to pie..

I agree with ending the Pie era and put him on waivers. I can't believe anyone would pick him up but if so, who cares? We already have enough OF's so where does Pie fit in anyway, if and when he does learn to play the game?
It's time to get serious here..no more 'works in progress'..if a 24 yr old ballplayer hasn't learned the basic skills, then he has no business clogging up a roster spot. I'd mujch rather see guys like Salazar/Montanez and Andino on our O' because at least they can hit or field. Pie brings nothing but unfulfilled 'potential' and the minors are full of those types.

Pete is right. Pie is a good bench player and yes the O's should take Lou over Pie. I thought the Orioles "picked each other up", so who is carrying Pie? It's certainly not Trembley.

Pie has a tremendous upside. Reminds me a bit of Deion. In April during his abbreviated audition he was way too eager and swinging at terrible pitches, much like Jones and to some extent Markakis are now. But his discipline at the plate has improved, which has me quite curious about him. Obviously there are no longer many at bats available. Trembley in this game tonight has shown terrible inconsistency; he panicked and pulled the infield in trailing by 2 in the third inning, arguably costing the O's an extra 2 runs, and then down 5 in the 5th he eschewed any sense of urgency by not pinch hitting Salazar for Hill with 1 out nobody on. When the camera shows the Trembley buddha head, i'd like to see a bubble caption above it, explaining just whats going on in there. blaming Pie perhaps?

I'm not crazy abt what I heard last night (was listening on the radio in my car) But wasn't Pie in the lineup to replace a slumping Adam Jones?
Didn't he go 2 for 3? and as for Adam Jones didn't he almost get thrown out going to first base on a single?
I'm rooting for Felix as a underdog.
just by looking at him I don't see a 5 tool player either.
Like everybody needs to be reminded we're re-building not playing for the Amercian League Eastern Divison Title.
I'd like to see good ole Felix mixed in the outfield a little more often......
Not that its a big deal his lifetime average was in 180's he is in the low 200's playing sparingly........

Trembley did what Pie couldn't- get a little sympathy for his lack of playing time and for being made the poster child for a team with a mind boggling number of nasty habits. Wasn't this the year they had to start figuring out if these young guys could play?
Don't worry Felix, you'll have company in the doghouse soon enough.

Pete,

In reference to a previous post regarding the comparison between your blog & anothers your answer should have been, "Well, I do have a full-time job in addition to this!"

Keep up the great work!


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Pete's reply: Thanks for the backup, but the blog has been soft the past few days.

agree: Dave shouldn't have taken Pie to task in the media. looks bad, sounds bad, just bad. but Dave had a bad day just like Pie did.

disagree: Pie IS developing, he just needs more AB's and time. sure he made a bone headed play, but it's a learning process. besides, the bad play was started by Wieters. Nobody has commented on that here...funny, maybe Kool-aid needs a re-fill. But I like Pie going forward and would like to see him given more of a chance. To be honest, I was against him in Spring training (I love Lou) but he's brought me around. Remember, Jones wasn't that amazing last year.

agree: I love Lou...he seems to have that sought after attribute..."make-up".

agree: let's just dump all the Vet's for new shinny things. At this point we have enough of them in the system that our asking price should be lower (a little) since playing time for the kids is almost as much of a priority as getting "value". (would Huff be a first round consolation pick if lost to free agency? than keep him) B-Rob should be held out for a Bedard type deal, but is that really gonna happen again? How many teams in contention have a spot open for a 2nd bagger, that'd be willing to pay Bedard prices? (White Sox? Roberts for Beckham and Gavin Floyd...but they's never do that...would they?)

frustrated: Wieters. I'm all about preaching patience's with player development, but he's shown None at the plate. It's the one thing that I was eager to see This season--a man with a good eye not chasing. But his K/BB rate is aggravating. I know power will come, but that should have (and was in the minors) ready for the majors.

can we tank the rest of the season so we can draft that 16 yrold SI cover boy?

The series sweep by the Marlins is disappointing...but I still remember sweeping the Phillies, so I'm good.

"Pete's reply: Well, I write three columns per week and I think I express a lot of opinions. Maybe you should tell me the opinion you want me to express so I can express my opinion exactly the way you want my opinion to be expressed. That way I could make sure that my opinion is the opinion you want to hear."

Way to ignore the meat of my post.

How's Daniel Cabrera doing?

Seriously Peter, by reading your stuff one would think this team is contending for the wild card.

I find it borderline insulting that you refuse to take this team to task with all the ridiculous stuff we see on the field.

You are watching the Baltimore Orioles, correct?

At some point maybe one of your colleagues will actually cut through the BS and call a spade a spade.

Until then I guess we'll have to read and hear you make excuses for players not hustling, a manager who either doesn't stress fundamentals (which I doubt) or is being tuned out by his team. Either scenario is very troublesome.

Here's a suggestion. Write a column without any bias. It'll feel really good.


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Pete's reply: Obviously, you don't read me regularly enough to know what I have and haven't written, but have a nice day anyway.

Pete

Flip Flop Flip Flop

PS Trembley should keep up these public meltdowns about players so he gets fired July instead of August

"Joey, you ever watch movies about gladiators?"

Just some mindless dribble to go along with everyone ranting and raving about the feeling of a 4th outfielder! We need a legit #2 starter! Some production from the top of the lineup! So what if Trembly called out a project player who dogged it! At this point he doesn't have the luxury of mistakes, no skins on the wall, less margin for error!

Sorry clicked twice, but come on guys we have bigger fish to fry....

You have clearence, Clarence.
Rodger, Rodger.
What's our vector, Victor?

Pete, You have a lot of interesting comments here, so I will throw my ten cents in. Yes he is a bench player, and we as fans spend a lot of time discussing a bench-role player, the 24th or 25th roster spot. Well he was not that at the beginning. The starting left field job was handed to him, without him earning it. So that is the number one reason the relationship with the Baltimore fans is stressed. I do not believe Dave Trembley had any say about it, because it was clear in spring training that Pie was outplayed by three other potential bench or role players. The fact is we were spoiled in the past between 1965 and 1998, when we had guys on the bench that could play with a lot of baseball savvy. You could make a list of them that always found a way to contribute to win a ball game. Pie, has had one game that I remember where you say if he did not make this play the O's might not have won that certain game. You could count on Crow, Nolan, Sakata, Dwyer, Brother Lowe and many more that would make the great play, get the clutch hit and not make mistakes. Smart sound fundamental baseball wins games, you cannot have guys on a field that do not have that in them, or can do it some of the time. If Pie had so much going for him, how come all the other clubs did not put something out on the table to grab Pie, when he was available?

The bottom line is he has played himself out of a starting job that he did not earn, and is playing himself out of a role position. Really look at the tools of baseball, hitting for contact, hitting for power, speed and ability to run bases, arm and fielding ability, what has he shown?

cbcoach summed it up perfectly.

You ever seen a grown man naked?

Joey, have you ever been to a Turkish prison?

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