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May 19, 2009

Orioles may gut it out with Izturis

If the club wasn't already limping into New York with Adam Jones (hamstring) and Lou Montanez (thumb) banged up, there might be more talk of placing Cesar Izturis on the disabled list with the groin injury he suffered over the weekend. The way it looks right now, he'll probably sit the next couple of days in New York and backup Robert Andino will play shortstop for much of the three-game series.

Groin injuries are troublesome, so the DL is not out of the question at some point. The Orioles also waited on Luke Scott's injured shoulder for a few days, but eventually decided to play it safe with him.

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Posted by Peter Schmuck at 2:19 PM | | Comments (16)
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If Izturis does indeed go on the DL, will the Orioles call anybody up from the minors? If so, who do you think is closest?

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Pete's reply: Don't really know. Maybe Justin Turner. Blake Davis was supposed to be that guy, but he's still recovering from that broken foot.

Peter,

Not that they would call anyone up to replace Izturis if he went on the DL but just out of curiosity, do the farm teams have any shortstops that are considered to be a top prospect? If not, are the Orioles looking to draft a shortstop with the first couple picks this year?

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Pete's reply: I've heard they may be interested in Grant Green in the first round, but nobody in the front office told me that.

Peter,

Does it worry you that the Orioles organization lacks in complete games for pitchers this year? Looking at the Orioles and their best prospects at Norfolk, it appears no one pitches longer than 6 innings. Should we be concerned?

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Pete's reply: That would be way down on my list. They don't push the guys in the minor leagues, and there is no emphasis on that at the major league level. The O's obviously are pursuing a seven-inning philosophy.

Just read your most recent column, June 9th huh? Thats a nice date and I have to say I agree with you.

Pete, who do you think will be the next young pitcher called up by the Orioles? Is there any timetable on Troy Patton?

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Pete's reply: I think they are going to be very careful with him for the next few months. I'll agree with everybody else and say David Hernandez comes up next.

Pete,

In an unrelated comment, I don't quite understand what the coaching staff is telling our pitchers. Every team identifies those players they DON'T want to beat them. So Bergesen is up 0-2 to AROID and for some reason Zahn being Zahn has to go talk to Brad, (I assume he wanted to break up his momentum) then he goe's to 3-2 with two outs and Damen on at 3rd, make him chase something, WALK HIM, but don't let him beat you with a HR! He's young but the pitching coach has got to be in his ear. Very much a rookie mistake!

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Pete's reply: I agree. Walking him on that full count pitch wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world with two bases open.

Pete, Regarding Izturis, doesn't it make sense for the Orioles to wait until after they get back home to make any decision? There's no point in placing him on the DL any sooner than they must, since they really don't have good options in the minors.

Granted, holding off on a decision hurts the team's depth, but we're only talking about a few games. Temporary lack of depth seems to be less of a problem than the extended absence by Cesar if he goes on the DL. That's should be the last thing they should want to do.

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Pete's reply: I agree that there isn't a great option in the minor leagues, but they could address another area rather than having him do nothing and stay active. But that's only if he's going to need a week or two. Don't know that.

Another mismanaged game by The "Skipper"Dave Trembley.It was obvious Bergeson was running out of gas and you leave him in with 2 lefthanders coming up with both Hendrickson and Walker available.Just shows you once again,how horrible Trembley is at handlinga pitching staff.On two occasions we had 2 baserunners on with no outs and the Genius could've called a bunt because rodriguez was playin 10 foot behind the bag,once with Markakis and once with Andini.I think I'm just about at my breaking point of stopping watching this train wreck.I lasted til August last year,can't even make it to Memorial Day this year.So sad to see this pathetic excuse for a ball team.Bergeson pitched a great game,but those of you that think bringing up the kids is goingto change anything with Trembley as manager have not been paying attention for the last 90 games.Check out the record.It speaks for itself.Chris Ray needs to be DL'ed again and sent down to get his mechanics straightened out because something isn't right.Enough said.

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Pete's reply: Dave's stuck between you and all the people who would have crucified him if he had taken Bergesen out with one out in the seventh.

Nice 7th inning tonite.
Chris Ray is the exact same pitcher we last saw 2 yrs ago. Straight fastballs getting smacked all over the diamond.His performance to date is downright scary. He has nothing, and shows no signs of improving. Defying the odds, he's actually regressing. Time to go. The bullpen stinks, he's a big part of it. Maybe the O's can trade him to the Cubs?
Nice work on the throw in from Jones.
What's with Andino? You have to expect players at this level to make plays. Be aware. Cut off the ball. Clueless. Next.
Losing you can take. This brand of baseball you can't.
Worst team in the major leagues.
Sloppy. Uninspired. No bench. Not one pinch hit this year. No bullpen. No starting pitcher that can actually pitch 7 innings.
Imagine 40 games into a season and you realize it's another beat down year? Probably worse than you thought it could be. I'm embarrassed for this team.Long way to go fellas before they sniff 80 wins, and that gets you what? Nothing. Exactly.

Pete, what year do you think the O's break 80 wins? 11? 12?

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Pete's reply: I think it will happen next year.

Trembleys extended family must vote an awful lot on that poll.He's up tp 74%.That's so laughable it's pathetic.

Pete,

Where were thou? A game without your updates is like a day without sunshine! :)

I really needed some humor after that 7th inning!

Pete,

If you notice I didn't beat Dave up, his bullpen sucks! Who would have thunk it in spring training a presumed strength has been dog crap!

The poor guy has NO ONE to turn to! You can't blame him for professionals not performing!

Very disapointing, the bullpen!

Pete
I was offered a game ticket tonight at the last minute and watched my first game in the new stadium. Actually, I watched MOST of the game ...but I didn't like the vibe when Brad went out for the 7th ...so I left. Gee, guess it's my fault (Dave T needs a night off from getting nailed ...my turn to step up).
Sitting in the new stadium was very different ...and all the Yankee fans felt it too. They are not used to sitting around in a "nice" venue ..kinda takes the edge off their normal out of control behavior. There were even fully decked-out O's fans there who the Yankee faithful basically ignored.
I'm afraid the Yankee players have already adjusted well, however.
Probably not going to be a very fun 3 days for O's watchers.

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Pete's reply: Wily move hitting the subway at that point. It didn't look good on TV either.


Pete,I guess I grew up watching a far different philosophy then what wwe're seeing today.Here's my point.Bergeson pitches an awesome game,gets one out in the seventh after going 3-2.His arm slot is coming up as is his ball which is an indicator to anybody who has watched baseball for any length of time that he is getting tired.And like Palmer always says,pitching in a 2-1 game against one of the best pitchers in the league is a lot more taxing than winning or losing by 3 or 4 runs.Then you walk the next batter after an extended at bat.At that time Earl Weaver would have walked out to the mound,patted the kid on the rump and said awesome game,and signaled for a lefty to come in.No,Dave let's him walk another batter and signals for Chris Ray,whose mechanics have been out of whack all season,and hasn't gotten anybody out consistently,and turns a one run game into a laugher.The Orioles hit 5 shots against the Yankees all caught.The Yankees blooped two or three hits with two walks and two errors into a 7 run inning.That's the difference between why they win and we lose.You had Walker loose and Hendrickson loose,if you don't trust them to get lefties out,and we know Walker hasn't been,then why are they still here.Then you go get the ball from Ray after it's a 9-1 game and Hendrickson shuts them down.Too late as usual.You want to ruin Bergeson's confidence?Let him watch that forthe rest of the year.Get a proven winner in here,either an ex player,or an ex-manager who won't toleratesloppy,inexcusable mistakes night after night after night.We rarely get beat by the other team,we very often beat ourselves.I gaurantee you Earl would not have let A-Rod beat him and neither would have Davey Johnson.Mike Hargrove wishes he had this much offensive talent,he might still be here.This game may have ticked me off more than any other game this year.Just shows the seperation between the two teams is more mental than physical.


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Pete's reply: I understand what you're saying, but if he had brought in Walker after the first walk and Walker had given up a couple of runs, wouldn't you -- or a dozen other posters -- be complaining about that right now? The guy is getting it from both sides of every decision.

Two things: I can't get the bad taste of last night out of my mouth - Bergesen did a great job to get out of a jam and deliver 6 gritty innings of two run baseball. Trotting him back out there for the 7th was just plain foolish - building confidence is as much a part of the game as building a winning record.

The Orioles need to make a trade for JJ Hardy. The Brewers will no doubt be shopping him as he is a FA after this season and they have a great shortstop waiting in the wings.

Hardy plays excellent defense and is a consistent 25-80 guy with the stick who should do well at Camden Yards.

Well, why not bring up Jobert Cabrera? He's almost the Crash Davis of infielders. lol
I grew up outside Harrisburg PA on the I 83 corridor. We were always Orioles fans. My dad and uncle saw Brooks play his first game in York. I worry that given the current circumstance, that my native part of PA will start to become the Pirates fans. They would not be Phillies fans because for most of the state, Philly is considered part of central Jersey. When the beloved Colts moved I became a Steelers, instead of an Eagles fan, as most of us did.
Sometimes I really believe in Andy's plan. But at other times, I think that if the guys in the minors are better, then let them prove it.
It's a tough road obviously, and I hope the O's get to the finish line before they lose a great fan base.

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