Help me understand
If anybody can tell me what goes through the mind of Jeremy Guthrie when the Orioles give him some run support, please write. Once again, he took the mound immediately after the club gift-wrapped a big inning for him and proceeded to spin out of control.
The O's scored four in the top of the fifth and he answered by giving up a one-out double to John Buck and a pair of two-out walks to load the bases before Billy Butler laced a two-run double to left to make a one-run game.
Guthrie has been snakebit since letting a seven-run lead get away in Boston in mid-April. He ended up with another no-decision in late April after the O's staked him to an early 4-0 lead against the Texas Rangers. In both those games, the Orioles offense went dormant after putting him in control. This time, the hitters seem more determined to get him his first win since April 11.
Felix Pie just legged out a double and scored on the second run-scoring hit of the game by Cesar Izturis. Nick Markakis just slammed a long two-run double -- also his second RBI hit of the game -- to stretch the lead to 8-4.






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Comments
Pete, we do have a good O! I hear ya tho' 8 runs is a lot more than Jeremy has had to deal with. 7 runs, meh. 8 unstoppable. Ty. Hey he didn't swing at 1st pitch... or 2nd whoa
Posted by: bms | May 14, 2009 10:25 PM
I'm sure that by the end of the season, Guthrie will settle down and solidly fill in the end of our rotation...problem solved at 5spot!
Posted by: jongermany | May 14, 2009 10:29 PM
Pete,
Does Jamie Walker have some dirt on Trembley? For the life of me I can't figure out why he continues to go to this well. He hasn't blown it yet, and maybe he won't . . . but this is getting ridiculous. As I'm sending this he just got out of the inning. I'm hoping we do the same thing we did with Chad Bradford.
On Guthrie, I think he has a major confidence problem that I hope will get better over time.
Posted by: Denny | May 14, 2009 10:57 PM
P.S.
I'm prediction Jim Johnson to George Sherrill as I'm sure KC is
Posted by: Denny | May 14, 2009 10:58 PM
Good evening Peter: just a thought on Guthrie is it possible he throws more balls over the plate in an attempt to go longer in the game? And a quick question for you if you'd be so kind: what is your take on the controversy with Roberts and his unwillingness to bunt. Clearly it's in the beat interest of himself and the team. I recall him bunting a lot more in previous seasons.
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Pete's reply: Where have I been. Is there a controversy over Brian not bunting? I think he did bunt a lot more earlier in his career, but he has developed into a guy who is a threat to hit 50 doubles. I wouldn't bunt him much.
Posted by: Christopher stallings | May 14, 2009 11:11 PM
Mr. Guthrie has been doing that sort of thing long before the Red Sox game this year.
Posted by: Mick | May 14, 2009 11:12 PM
Guthrie is mentally weak, unfocused, and doesn't pitch to win just to "hang in there." Rubbish loser talk.
Posted by: T | May 14, 2009 11:24 PM
Pete--Guthrie has a mental hurdle this season with two outs; he keeps knocking the log down. He's a smart, talented guy. He'll work his way through it.
Pie has been a gamer, coming through when sick last night, and playing well again tonight.
What a pleasure to see the Star Ship Enterprise enter a time warp tonight and give us Jim Johnson pitching two innings to close out the game.
How I loved those '60s--"Go Orioles Go."
From left to right in the Baltimore Oriole outfield--Pie, Jones, Markakis.
That's the Garden of Camden.
Here's my copyright seal. If the Birds would like to use it for marketing, I think they can figure out how to reach me.
Every day that I am blessed with watching Oriole baseball, I think of Bill O'Donnell and believe that we can end the night with "It's been a good night, everybody."
Posted by: Barry | May 14, 2009 11:58 PM
Help me understand what's gotten into Pie. Maybe its playing in center but he's got a fire under his butt. And I like it if he plays like this Montanez and Pie won't stick
Posted by: Alex | May 15, 2009 12:34 AM
I've figured out how to wake Pie's bat up: injure Adam Jones and call up a young prospect that's out to win his job, and scare him into producing!
Posted by: Hafiz in College Park (aaah, finals!) | May 15, 2009 2:04 AM
There was a pitch to Butler that should have been called a strike,stil the walks are killing Guthrie. I still wouldn't be surprised to see Guthrie moved at the deadline.
The O's really need two more good bullpen arms,putting Hendrickson in there is pure folly.I'll bet we lose games over this weekend because the bullpen is so weak.We have OF's stacked to the roof but not enough pitchers,somethings gotta give.
Posted by: John | May 15, 2009 4:16 AM
Guthrie has given leads back plenty of times the past two seasons. Generally after a run or two was scored the lead came back.
Posted by: Zach Ruth | May 15, 2009 8:48 AM
Jeremy Guthrie is a gifted pitcher and all-around good guy, but there may be a reason we were able to pick him up off waivers.
Posted by: Al East | May 15, 2009 10:03 AM
Something I've noticed on Guthrie this season. He doesn't seem to pitch well after a long inning on the bench. I'm not sure if this is a problem for him, but is it possible that the long breaks when the O's put up runs hurts his focus? He seems to pitch well in low scoring games when the innings go by fast. He pitched well against the yankees after the first inning. What was going on there? the o's were getting shutout by CC. Fast innings. Last year general he pitched very well. And, in general, the o's were not putting up runs for him. quick innings. after long innings to the sox and royals he's looked pretty bad. maybe he should go to the bullpen between innings to keep pitching if necessary. just a thought.
Posted by: Mike | May 15, 2009 12:22 PM
We have to remember that the Bright Lights in the Front Office cut Guthrie's salary this year. Imagine if your salary was cut and you had recently married. A psychological reaction would not seem out of place.
Posted by: collegeprofessor | May 15, 2009 12:42 PM
sophmore jinx,pete. the usual down season after a productive first.
Posted by: mike bohle | May 15, 2009 4:03 PM
On a good team, Guthrie would either be a No. 5 starter, at best, or wouldn't be in the rotation at all.
Given that the Orioles have to use him, he might be better suited to long relief than to starting. He tends to fall apart in the late 4th or 5th innings--two to three innings seem to be his effective limit.
Uehara might also be better in relief than as a starter. His starting days are long in the past, he's in his mid-thirties and slight of build, and he too tends to labor from the fifth inning onward. With him, however, it seems more a matter of physical exhaustion than anything else. He's a very good pitcher and would make a great middle reliever for the team.
That would leave two holes in the starting rotation, which could be filled by Hill and Tillman. The third hole, stemming from Hendrickson's demotion, might be filled, perhaps, temporarily, by Bass?
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Pete's reply: I disagree on Guthrie. I believe he's a middle-of-the-rotation guy at this point in his career, with an upside.
Posted by: Xerxes Mehta | May 15, 2009 4:57 PM
Maybe its some payback for all the games in which he pitched well, but got no runs.
I agree with the last comment to an extent, but I think Guthrie is the next Dennis Eckersley.
Posted by: logiopath | May 15, 2009 9:04 PM
Work Fast
Throw Strikes
Change Speeds
What Guthrie does not do consistently
Posted by: George | May 19, 2009 8:27 AM
Work Fast
Throw Strikes
Change Speeds
What Guthrie does not do consistently
Posted by: George | May 19, 2009 8:27 AM