O's just can't win on Sunday's seems like last year.

if we can take 2 out of 3 each series, we can keep losing ugly games like this one. Not sure that it will continue though. Does DT still think Bass won't get through waivers?

Pete,

Andy and Dave must be kidding themselves. I mean honestly, who in bloody hell cares if Eaton and/or Bass end up with another team? These guys are horrible baseball players and should have never ever been considered to land a major league roster spot. I would rather have Waters and Bergs right NOW. That way we would actually have a chance to sweep a series. I predicted this morning we would lose another Sunday game ala last year, and by a hefty margin. Eaton did nothing to prevent that. No wonder the Phils fans boo him when he was presented with a ring. What the heck did he do to deserve a ring anyways?

well, on the fifth day....

We lose!! Eaton is not a lost cause (yet) but the Eaton/Bass combo every 5th doesn't strike fear anywhere in the continent

Still love dem O's.....

Jones with a multi hit day game against a tough pitcher is sweet to see

Bass should have been yanked in the fifth, after Iwamura's double. There are people in the stands who paid good money to see the O's play. Trembley did them a disservice to give up the game in the 5th just because they were down 7 or 8 runs. This offense can always come back, at least we have to believe it can, or we'll drop 8-10 games this year without a fight, and no team that will struggle to break .500 (and that should be the goal this year) can afford to do that. Besides if Bass is having trouble controlling the ball, it's probably bad for his arm and for his confidence to be kept in there. That's why the O's pitching has sucked the last several years despite having talent. Trembley does not know how to manage pitchers and their arms and heads get blown up.

It still remains pretty damned sad you have to bring a guy like Eaton up just for the sole purpose of getting the snot kicked out of you. I know it's a "rebuilding year" but it still remains ridiculous.

And what was Bass's final line.Much rather see Bergeson up here,cpuld probably guarantee Rays wouldn't have scored 11 runs off of him.But,hey what do I know,I mean this guys have engineered 11 straight losing seasons after all.

Its time to cut our losses with Brian Bass & Adam Eaton they don't belong in the American League East end of story!

It was a terrible move Eaton and Bass have never had ERAs or Whip to brag about. They are SIMPLY 2 ineffective pitchers --WE NEED to release or give their slots to someone else .Better yet get rid of these batting practice hurlers!

I did tell you so Pete. Too many unknowns and a champion level opponent. If the rotation stays the same look for 2 losses per rotation. To quote Macphail if we intend on growing arms on the farm we'd better add some fertilizer fast-3/5 pitchers who can throw consistent strikes isn't going to cut it.
Your thoughts oh great one?

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Pete's reply: Well, If you had asked me at the start if the O's and their fans should be happy going 4-2 on the homestand, I would have said "absolutely." But once you have the first two games in a series, obviously you want to nail the thing down. To be fair, Eaton and Bass could have combined to give up two runs and it still wouldn't have been good enough. Shields was dominating.

Brian Bass is definitely not ready to pitch for the O's yet this season. How do you keep him around after his first two horrible outings? There is no acceptable answer to that question. Meanwhile, Brad Bergeson is pitching on the wrong team in Norfolk, instead of at Camden Yards.

We should be so lucky as to have another team pick up Brian Bass. The guy has given up 1/3 of the runs the Orioles have allowed through six games, in only two relief appearances! He came into a one-run game against the Yankees and gave up four runs in his first inning, and then today it's four HRs and seven runs in three innings- take those away and it's a one-run game. The Orioles are 4-0 when Bass stays on the bench and 0-2 when he steps foot on the field. Now can anyone explain to me why we are worried about ANY TEAM picking this guy up? I think we should send him to NY or Boston with a giant gift bow and pray that they take him.

I appreciate the trade-offs between following a longer-term plan and maximizing near-term success, and can understand the thinking behind putting Bergeson and Weiters at AAA. But I have to wonder about the value of holding onto a pitcher who has nearly singlehandedly turned what would have been two competitive games into blowout losses. Think about the cost that keeping players like Bass and Andino imposes on the team, in terms of the scarce roster spots they occupy and the constraints that puts on the manager. Compared to the dubious option value of holding them- which I would argue is virtually zero- the cost-benefit analysis is clear. We could have used two more QUALITY pitchers on our roster today, and how many other close games will turn into blowouts because of these misguided decisions?

I agree with Steve about Tremblay not knowing how to manage pitchers. He pulled hot relievers when they are dominating just because he wants to limit innings or pitch count and almost blows 2 games that we narrowly won, but leaves Bass in to be pummeled. Just because we were fortunate enough to win the 2 series is not an excuse to cave on the other 2 games.
I have an idea for starting pitchers until the youngsters are ready. Just keep claiming other teams waived pitchers , one at a time, and releasing the last one(s), until you luck out a get another one like Guthrie. It can't get any worse than a couple we have now, and just might bring results and give us a fair season.

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Pete's reply: Let's get serious here. You don't pitch your two-inning guys four innings just because they're pitching well. That's silly and short-sighted. It's a 162 game season and nobody's going to remember that you were 5-1 the first week instead of 4-2. And, anyway, they didn't lose any of the games your talking about. The two losses, they got smoked. Had nothing to do with when the relievers came or went.

Schmuck, if the Os stay competitive, and continue to get strong outings by the majority of their SPs and by the offense, could that change the plan for calling up the young SPs? Initially they were hoping to get them work in the late summer, but if we're in contention (fingers crossed) is there a possibility Bergeson and maybe others get the call early (before All-Star)? If we can hang around for the first half, maybe some adjustments around All-Star break could boost us some?

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Pete's reply: I think Bergesen and some others will come up by midseason, but not Arrieta or Matusz.

ok let's end the bass experiment. he got cut by the twins who are quite good in evaluating pitchers. Let's get bergy up here and see what he can do. If nothing we have plenty of arms to throw into the fire, i'm thinking let's not throw this season away, we took 2 of 3 twice.

i'll take 2 of 3 all series aside. That was AL East teams, these games count, let's soak it up. changes will be made

Bass is not a bad pitcher, everyone has a bad outing, or two. You cannot judge him after this, you have to give him time. Last year he pitched pretty well Time will tell.

Pete--I can appreciate the eternal optimism but you've got to kidding in your earlier reply there. The fact is not that the O's lost this game and that Eaton and Bass could've only given up 2 runs and it wouldn't have mattered. It's that they gave up ELEVEN! It's that while we're all certainly happy to start 4-2 against quality opponents, maybe we're all just not content to automatically concede 1 of every 5 games before playing them. I completely agree with one of the earlier posts that the fans who bought tickets to today's game were done a disservice. I couldn't even watch it on TV anymore halfway through the 5th. If the Orioles are going to turn things around in the next few years, this defeatist attitude must be the first thing to go. And to make sure fans will still be there whenever it happens, they need to do nothing less than putting the best talent available on the field now. I'm certainly not talking about Matusz, Tillman and Arietta, but about 24 year olds Bergesson and Hernandez. I just think they're protecting their pitchers too much. No doubt remembering the past. But not every guy is as immature as Matt Riley and Daniel Cabrera, or not as unlucky as Hayden Penn, or a weird combination of both like Adam Lowen. Fan's are being asked to have patience and understanding and that's acceptable but Eaton and Bass are nothing short of a slap in the face.

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Pete's reply: I'm not a cock-eyed optimist. I agree they could do better than Eaton yesterday, but they were dominated by James Shields. Not exactly a good reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Did you see the line on Erik Bedard last night? Looks like he is back.

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Pete's reply: It certainly does.

What's the latest on Rich Hill?

Ever find out who Rick Kranitz's sleeper was?

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Pete's reply: I believe it was Bergesen, but he's not saying.

put baez out there next time