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February 9, 2009

Orioles: Wigginton on hold

The Orioles are bringing free agent infielder Ty Wigginton back for further examination this week, which probably means that they want to take a second look at something that turned up on his physical Thursday.

Everybody thought his two-year contract would become official on Friday. When it didn't, some antennae went up, but no one is saying there is a serious issue that could lead the Orioles to back out of the deal.

Still, this is one of those situations where the cautionary baseball GM adage "It isn't done until it's done" suddenly seems like more than a cliche, but we'll just have to wait until later in the week to find out for certain.

Posted by Peter Schmuck at 1:58 PM | | Comments (34)
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Pete -

If Wigginton is not signed, who fills that RH 'power' bat in the lineup? Is Millar still in the mix?

Also, are you aware of any other deals in the making before spring traing starts?

Oh, oh , shades of Ben Sheet's physical last week w / Rangers . The need for more surgery .

PeteyPablo...

I believe Millar either signed with Toronto last week or is close to signing with Toronto...no way he comes back to the Orioles.

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Peter's reply: I believe you're right.

The effect (possible) of this Wigginton thing reminds of a story out of the old Washington Senators, 'way back in the early '60's, I think it was. They were, as always, horrible, and in spring training, a reserve second baseman named Johnny Schaive (sp?) sprained his ankle pretty badly. When the press asked him, "Johnny, what does this mean?", he quipped, "Well, there goes the pennant!" I hope TW is OK and the signing becomes official, but whether or not it does, has a fairly small bearing on the final standing of the O's in the ALEast.

Peter, is it my imagination or do the Orioles put players through tougher physicals than other clubs? Didn't Mike Lowell fail a physical (or wasn't signed for health reasons) then went on to be World Series MVP for Boston?


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Pete's reply: Yes, the O's are particularly careful, but Lowell was never evaluated by the O's medical staff. That deal didn't get that far.

Hey, you can never be too careful these days. The O's got burned in the Belle/Benson signings so it doesn't hurt to take a close look at the medical.
I know there will be some fall-out if the deal doesn't go through due to medical concerns but a deal isn't a deal until everything is signed. The O's took some abuse in the media about the Aaron Sele deal but in the long run, they made the correct call.

pete check out yahoo sports and a story about gary williams and recruiting.

Shades of Jeromy Burnitz.

I hope whatever it is that it isn't something serious that would prevent a deal being done or would hurt his performance while with the Orioles.

Pete,

A-Rod admits his performance drug use over several yrs.

I'm guessing you've been around baseball and locker rooms for a long time, isn't it almost impossible to imagine GMs not seeing/knowing about the rampant drug use?

Did they all look the other way?

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Pete's reply: Well, they wouldn't see it in the clubhouse, because most of it happened somewhere else and, anyway, GMs don't spend much time in the clubhouse. But I'm sure they heard the whispers like everyone else.

Is Aaron Sele performing the physical?

Am I the only person who thinks this resembles Ben Sheets' physical with the Rangers last week?

Makes perfect sense, why else would he have sat on the Free Agent market for so long and ultimately sign a two year for so cheap? It all honesty, I really don't think we need him, if he is healthy of course I would like to have him but I would like to see Montanez at DH and Huff at 1B. Or, see if the former first round "superstar to be" Snyder finally step up and get this show on the road! Let's go O's!

PeteyPablo: Millar is not a 'power' bat.

There's nothing happening now, but it could all change with a phone call... from the lab.

Wigginton and Freel give the Os some interesting options. If I remember correctly, we now have switch hitters in Izturis, Zaun, Roberts, and potentially Weiters, covering short, 2nd and Catcher. Then we have options of Huff(L)/Wigginton(R) at 1st, Freel(R)/Scott(L) and Pie(L)/Jones(R) in Center. We could go with almost all lefty or all righty lineups depending on the pitcher.

I heard that if Wigginton didn't work out, they were going to bring back Fahey. The warehouse feels that his power is really starting to develop.

Kevin ".370 SLG" Millar is a power bat? Who knew?

Xavier Hernandez, we hardly knew ye ... Peter, do you think backing out of this contract would have the negative impact on relations with future potential free agents as that one and the Aaron Sele deal did back in the day?

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Pete's reply: I don't know. Peter A took a lot of heat for backing away from Xavier Hernandez (and had to pay him anyway), but he turned out to be right. The guy was hurt and couldn't pitch. Sele was a little different. He had a couple of decent years before breaking down, as the O's doctors predicted he would.

If Ty doesn't pass the test, Sign Manny for a couple of years. We need a sox and yankee killer in the line-up if we are going to compete in the East.

Let's get this right. Does anyone remember Glen Davis? It made the Orioles look like chumps.

Shades of Aaron Sele! See-reasons why no respectable free agents will sign in Baltimore!!!!!!!!!

Pete,

Read your article on A-Rod. I agree with you 95%. As a fan who watched many a game at Camden Yard in the late 90's ealry 00's I knew just as well as any fan who paid attention, that most of the ball players were on something. For the media and fans alike to just say "God, this is terrible, they cheated us for years!" is stupid. We all knew, but like major league baseball, we like the end product and turned a blind eye.
A-Rod is a jerk for lying about it in the 60 minutes interview, no questions. I blame him, Raffy and Mac for lying to fans. But I can't blame them for using and not telling Joe Public. We knew they were using, we just didn't care.

Hmmm. Does any other O's fan seem to feel the need to quote the Daytime show "these are the days of our lives?" Personally, I'd much rather have a gimpy, mediocre Wigginton and wait for prospects to develop than have signed Teixeira and try to be a contender in the next few years...

Pete, on the A-Rod subject, if you have him getting into the Hall of Fame at some point down the road, WHY isn't Pete Rose, with more hits than anyone, (all done in the 60's & 70's with no drugs or juice) ........ Why isn't he in the Hall of Fame ?......... His stats are legit ! ....... Not like A-Fruad and so many others. So what if he bet on games as a manager,...... or, keep them both out !!

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Pete's reply: Fair point.

Remember Sele ?

Let me get this right. Wiggington may not have passed his physical. How does this make the O's look bad? Better they find out now than sign an injured player,

I enjoyed reading and seeing the faces of O's pitchers going into spring training that Jeff Zrebiec put together.
What I didn't like is that he says who probably won't make it to the bigs yet. It kinda spoils it for me. I want to hope Jim Miller makes it or Ross Wolf, Mark Hendrickson at least can go into spring training and I can read about their progress and see them in a spring training game on tv and root for them.
That goes for all reporters. Just report the news and leave the suspense to me.

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Pete's reply: The suspense is still there. Analysis is, by nature, imperfect. The beauty of baseball, as evidenced by this blog, is that everyone thinks they know best. I'm a so-called expert, but I often get posts from readers like you that enlighten me or open my eyes to something I may not be seeing. Remember the big argument a week or so ago about pitching stats? I think it's part of the fun.

Scot and Andrew - Millar got most of his AB last year 4th or 5th in lineup. Never said I thought he was a power bat, but unfortunately the O's did last year and I'm glad to hear he won't be this year.

BJ - How do you know that Pete's stats are legit?

His accomplishments are in the Hall. Only the man is barred. The man is a lying no class money grubbing scumbag. Putting him in the hall would enrich the man. He defied baseball, tried to game the commisioners, and his offense is not one of culture. His offense is one of arrogance. No one wants to reward him for spitting in the eye of the game. He was given opportunity after opportunity to come clean and refused. ARod did whatever he did whenever he did it, but the MUCH larger crime is whatever scumbag disclosed information subject to contractual non disclosure. This does not reach the heights of leaked grand jusry testimony but is of the same nature. Breaking the law, breaking the sanctity of the contract all in the name of titillation and the "TMZ-ization" of sports is disguating and actionable. But no one is covering that story because we all cant get enough of the Enquirer/Star like gossip mongering.


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Pete's reply: I talked to Pete and he wanted me to pass along that it's Mr. Lying No-class Moneygrubbing Scumbag to you.

BaltimoreJohn; What Pete Rose did was potentially far worse than taking steroids could ever be. The damage to baseball from a manager throwing games would be devastating.

For that to have happened, all that would be needed was for Pete to get in too deep to the wrong people and be blackmailed into doing it, or to lose so much money as to be drawn into making bets against his own team and throwing games to recoup his money.

Pete says neither of those things ever happened. Then again, he spent years denying he'd ever made bets for his team to win only to fess up eventually. Whether we should believe him is irrelevent. He opened the door to that ugly possibility. There's nothing more serious than that.

Well I am glad that they are being over cautious.If my memory serves me right. last years injuries were a groin and broken thumb. I am not sure about all of his other injuries in the past, but this is good for the Orioles and Wigginton and hope it is not anything serious for his future and long term health.

Pete, my comment actually goes back to the Cooperstown blog the other day (please excuse me, I'm old and decrepit and pretty slow!). I was just thinking, when players involved in steroids are eventually accepted into the Hall of Fame, their plaques should be adorned with Ford Frick's good old asterisks. A nice big one, maybe instead of listing their accomplishments, just a big old *.

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Pete's reply: I think some reference would be appropriate.

Why are people bitching about this? If he isn't healthy then they don't need him. That is good that they are being cautious. Would you rather find out now he is injured or pay and waste money on a guy that is banged up? There is plenty to bash them (the team) about but a guy flunks a physical and they don't sign him = outrage is ridiculous.

players in the60's and 70's lined up at a certain doctor's, in dundalk, door on
thursday mornings to get their shots, a month's supply of pills and have their triglycerides tested..
please don't tell me, that you're neive
enough to think that only russian and bulgarian power lifters were the only athletes to use roids.
roid rage wasn't confined to th "raiders".

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