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December 9, 2008

Source: Ramon deal all but complete

According to a source here, the Orioles have made substantial progress over the past 24 hours on the prospective deal that would send Ramon Hernandez to the Cincinnati Reds for fourth outfielder Ryan Freel and a mid-level prospect.

There is a general manager's meeting going on right now, but it's possible the deal could be announced very soon. If there is any holdup, it could be because the Commissioner's Office will have to approve the deal, since more than $1 million in cash will also change hands to subsidize Ramon's salary.

O's president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail said yesterday that he hoped to get something done at these winter meetings, and this deal would probably be it. The O's don't appear to be close enough with any free agents to get a deal done in the next two days.

Hernandez became expendable for a couple of reasons -- the first, of course, being the quick progress of top catching prospect Matt Wieters. But the Orioles had become increasingly disenchanted with his lack of intensity behind the plate. The club still is reluctant to turn the starting job over to Wieters on Opening Day, but will likely sign a moderately priced free agent veteran to share the job with him.

Posted by Peter Schmuck at 1:40 PM | | Comments (20)
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pete any word on the type of prospect that will be coming to the orioles?

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Pete's reply: We should know in a little while.

Pete,

Since Ramon is pretty much gone, do you think the O's will sign Greg Zaun as a bridge to Wieters? Or is there another free agent catcher out there other than Pudge, that would be a good fit behind the plate here?

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Pete's reply: I've heard Zaun's name thrown around, but don't really know.

Why is the club reluctant to hand over the starting job to Wieters?

They didn't seem reluctant last off-season to hand over the starting centerfield job to Adam Jones, who had no track record at the Major League level.

Hey Pete,
Are we still being mentioned as a 4th team in the Peavy to Cubs trade? I recall us receiving an outfielder in that deal too.


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Pete's reply: Yes.

Peter - any chance Freel tries to make a transition to short (or at least see some time there this season?).

He's played plenty of games @ 2B and 3B which indicate he has range & a decent arm.

No idea how valid such a proposal would be - but considering he's a .272 hitter - thats a HUGE improvement on last year's group.

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Pete's reply: Yes, he could play some infield.

Weiters, Weiters, Weiters!!!!

Schmuck, I don't know if anyone is talking about this dealing with the trade of hernandez for freel. But Freel can play 2nd base and has each of the past couple of years. So do you think we will see a roberts trade following this one?

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Pete's reply: Maybe, but I don't think this deal is closely related.

come on Pete we all know who is going to be behind the plate come april. Unless Wieters has a complete collapse during Feb and March he is the starting backstop.

I am glad to hear this. This just opens the door completely for Wieters to be behind the plate on opening day. I was afraid the O's were going to stay with Hernandez for another year to avoid bringing up Wieters to soon(for performance or financial reasons). Hopefully come opening day we will have a new face behind the plate and at first base( sign Teixeira ). Thats nice to think about until you think about the rotation. This team has a lot of holes to fill and I know the plan is to fill those holes with players that are already in the minors. I just hope the O's young talent, mainly pitching, gets better sooner than later.

I agree with dumping Hernandez even if it is for Ryan D.L. Freel. I have April 27th in the office pool for the date of his first trip to the disabled list.

it's a great trade. to get a live body for hernandez is remarkable. i read freel also plays infield. i don't think freel will play for the orioles unless he's a really decent fielding infielder. i expect reimold and lou hernandez to be back up outfielders for the orioles.

Dempsey's nephew perhaps?

Isn't Ivan Rodriguez available? If Ramon has been moved, I would like to see Ivan "caddy" for Wieters.

Go out and get Pudge for a year or 2. Pay him what he wants. That is the best way to protect Weiters. They should have signed Pudge years ago instead of Javey. He is a great defensive catcher and can hold his own at the plate. He know how to handle young pitchers and can teach Matty boy,

If Hernandez goes, as I pray, I'll start crossing the names off my list of O's players who really, really get on my nerves. Here's the list with the contempt level, with one being the least dislike and 10 the most:
Hernandez - 10, Walker - 11, Payton -8, Trembley - 8.5, Millar - 7, All 2008 shortstops - 9, D. Cabrera - 7.5, Burres 7, All other pitchers except Guthrie - 6.5. I despise Hernandez and Walker so much, I'd actually consder resuming watching the team if both were gone.

Scot-

Probably because Adam Jones had a handful of ML at-bats already under his belt. Wieters has barely 200 at-bats at AA so far.

TyBraxx: It doesn't seem to me like Freel has been on the DL for any extended period of time the last few years. He played 378 games between 2004 and 2006 (that's an average of 126 games) and the past two years has served as a bench player.

And at any rate, the O's are looking for him to be a quality bench player at any of the three outfield positions, second or third base. Maybe a start here or there, but not an everyday player, unless someone goes down to an injury.

I'am sorry to hear that our president of baseball operation Andy Mac phail is not going to do anymore at the meetings . I think we need to do alot more then we've done . Please for the last time go after Tex sign him , show him that we will be alot stronger in a year or two . Sign two or three mid level starters and give our kids more time . Thanks !! Curt

So, anybody see anybody else talking about this 7 year $150 million the O's supposedly offered Teixeira? The Nationals are getting all the headlines, and then they mention, buried three or four paragraphs down, that the LA Times ran that the O's offered this deal.

I hope it's true, and I hope they added some option years or something to sweeten the deal.

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