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September 5, 2008

Why not call 'em all up?

There is a buzz developing around Bowie outfielder Nolan Reimold, and there should be. He has hit four home runs in the first two Baysox playoff games and is starting to look like the players the Orioles have long hoped he would become. So, what possible reason could they have for not calling him up to the major league club after the Eastern League playoffs come to an end?

The same would seem to apply to Brad Bergesen and some of the other young players who have had solid minor league seasons. What exactly do the Orioles have to lose by bringing those guys up and getting a look at them?

It's more complicated than you might think, and that's not just because you have to make room for some of them on the 40-man roster. The people in the warehouse I've been talking to say that roster space is not really a major problem. It's more about making sure the kids get put in a position that won't disadvantage them later.

Stay with me here. Prospects are evaluated on many levels, starting with the scouting department, then the minor league staff -- both coaches and administrators -- and eventually the major league manager and coaching staff. While a September call-up would appear to be a very valuable tool to evaluate a young player, and it is, it can also can institutionalize an incorrect perception of a prospect.

To make a long story even longer, there are very good reasons not to bring up a player such as Nolan Reimold. The Orioles already are trying to get playing time for Lou Montanez and they aren't going to totally abandon the major league veterans. If a player like Reimold comes up and gets 12 at-bats and goes 1 for 12, he doesn't gain anything personally from the experience and he runs the risk of damaging his chances of making the club out of spring training next year.

You'd like to think the major league coaching staff would know better than to draw too much from a quick look, but the manager and coaches are human and they have to sort through a lot of players in spring training. It's just human to file away every impression they get, and a bad September impression could -- even subconsciously -- cost a player at-bats and a fresh start in the spring.

That may not be right, but it's a legitimate concern. Reimold could also come up here and tear it up for a couple of weeks, but he still would have to come back in the spring and prove himself again. Believe it or not, the team may be acting in the best interest of a kid by keeping out of the spotlight -- especially with the major league team disintegrating.

Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean Reimold and Bergesen won't be called up in the next week or so. It's just another explanation for why they might not.

Posted by Peter Schmuck at 12:00 PM | | Comments (14)
        

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I say bring him up and give him a look. You've got 25 or so games left, there's no reason he should be limited to 12 at-bats. Sit bums like Payton, who have had all season to show what they can do and have failed miserably.

Pete,

Couple of points you made about Management's mentality that bothers me, because it severly contradicts their past behavior (maybe that's a good thing). When you say they don't want to disadvantage young prospects, are they acknowledging that they have made major mistakes rushing past pitching prospects like Ponson and Cabrerra?

Also, the fact that a kid could earn a call-up based on a year long performance, only to leave a bad impression based on a few weeks of part-time play is crazy. Especially, if as you say, they could tear it up and it wouldn't give them any advantage next spring.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the fact that the guys all these fans want called up to the major league team are really experiencing their first taste of success.

Before this season, Brad Bergeson had never pitched above high A-ball in Frederick. And aside from 15 starts in Delmarva in '07, he hadn't been that successful. He's always limited his walks and put up excellent K/BB rates, but from '04 to '06 in Rookie and low A-ball, he gave up 10+ hits per nine and never posted an ERA under 4.27. In those 15 starts in Delmarva last year, he posted a very good 2.19 ERA and limited his hits per nine to about seven, but really struggled when he moved up to Frederick (5.75 ERA, 12.46 hits per nine in 10 starts).

This year, Bergesen's been dominant, but he's still only 22 years old. And since the Orioles aren't playing for anything, it doesn't make any sense to bring him up to the bigs with the chance that he might get shelled in a few starts. The only logical choice is to let him finish out the Eastern League playoffs, then give him a rest for a few weeks before sending him to Arizona.

Reimold is a bit of a different case since he's a hitter, but it still doesn't make any sense to bring him up in September. He's got 584 AA at bats under his belt and he's got all the confidence in the world after a phenomenal start in the playoffs. What good would it be to bring him up and have him face guys like Cliff Lee, Francisco Liriano, Roy Halladay, Scott Kazmir and go 0 for the rest of the season? Let him hold onto the confidence he's already got, give him a rest after the playoffs, send him to Arizona and then see what he can do against big league pitching next spring.

Pete,
Going 1-12 could also leave a poor impression with scouts from other teams and perhaps diminish potential trade value.
I'm not saying they will trade Reimold, but you never know who might get the hots for him and make Andy an offer he can't refuse.

Pleanty of playing time can be had. Only Huff(1B/3B), Markakis(RF), Jones(CF), and Roberts(2B) should get everyday playing time the rest of the year.

That leaves 5 slots in the line up that are open to playing time. Catcher with Hernandez and Quiroz might be set but a 3rd catcher would be fine. Hernandez has caught a lot of games this year(114).

So that leaves 1B/3B, DH and LF. Millar and Payton are FA after the season and are 35+. So they are not in the future plans. They should know that they will be given limited playing time. Mora is also over 35 and hurt his leg. He should be given time off as well. Luke Scott is a player that will get a good amount of ABs except vs lefties. So he can play LF/DH. Montanez should also get a lot of ABs the rest of the year.

I think the way they are using Lou is actually bad for him. He needs to play. Treating him like some 14 yr old isn't going to help him in the future.

He doesn't know the OF well enough to play everyday? Isn't this the same team that has Luke Scott play LF most of the season. A guy who played RF in the NL. They should do with him what they did with Markakis. Put him out there and let him pass or fail on his own.

I don't see any downside to abandoning Payton and Millar. I wouldn't say they they are bums...they've done the job for the O's this season...but as they are not, or should not be in the O's 2009 plans, its time to look at others. The Orioles are not even playing for .500 this year, there is no point in continuing to play these veterans.

I wouldn't dare bring players up from Bowie in the midst of a playoff run. Let them enjoy the experience of what playoff pressure feels like. When the Bowie season is over then I would bring them up.

You mean they are not going to abandon the vets who have put them in last place? Mercy!

Pete -

You made a point earlier regarding Reimold that makes a lot of sense. The kid has had health issues, and after a successful year like this, he starts to put to rest fears of health preventing this kid from reaching his potential. Let him go to the fall league after a quick break, and work on anything in his game that he thinks needs refining. I personally see no value to bringing the kid up while the season unravels as the schedule winds down.

And, anybody who thinks facing AA pitching is not far off from the majors, is delusional! We do in fact have more players jumping from AA to the majors, but many initially struggle. I say let the coaching staff get their impressions during ST when the kid is fresh!!!

What do you mean they don't want to rush guys? Look at Liz, bringing him up when he wasn't ready was as bad as bringing up Hayden Penn and seeing him get hammered several years ago. Also, keeping Olson in the rotation when he has proven he isn't ready or never will be, is somewhere between dumb, or intentionally sacrificing his future because they didn't have anyone else to use as a starter, so they have to let him go out there every 5 days and get hammered. Either way it is a disservice to a guy, the organization once highly touted.

All, lets keep pretending the people running the O's the last 15 years have had a clue! Early last month Bergersen beat the Yankees minor league team at Bowie against Karl Pavano and 2 weeks later Pavano beat our big league team!!!!!

I believe it has more to do with the players Major League start date and future arbitration and free agency!

I see Ramon, I won"t block the Plate Hernandez is at it again! Get rid of him!

OK... I'll watch those concerns with interest as Toronto takes a look at Travis Snider, Rox look at Joe Koshansky and Dexter Fowler, and I'm sure in the next few days, other teams will do similar with their top prospects.
But wait, I still can watch MASN in non-HD and absorb more of the same roster-filling non-entities being trotted out in the Yards.
Maybe the O's will have some prospects in 2012 or so, giving Thorne plenty of time to learn how to pronounce SAR-FAR-TE.

Responding to Shawn's comment above -
Luke Scott actually played only one season last year, as RF for the Astros - prior to that he had played LF - until Carlos Lee arrived

and you know where they had to stick Lee to play in MMP ...

Peter:
I attended the game? last night. I have one question, who calls the pitches? Doe Hernandez ever block the plate? Ever? I know that was two
but it involved the same guy.

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Pete's reply: If Mike Scioscia had been managing and Hernandez had made the play that way on that great throw, he would have tackled Ramon in the dugout.

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