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September 10, 2008

Mora wants more

Melvin Mora didn't even hesitate. When somebody asked him yesterday whether he has been thinking about the three RBIs he still needs to reach 100, he didn't hide behind a bunch of team-oriented platitudes to avoid the appearance of being stat-conscious.

"Who doesn't want to think about that?" Mora said "I think about that all the time. Even early in the season, I want to drive in 100. Even when I have one, I want to drive in 100. Everyone in the majors, hitting, they want to get to 100 RBIs. Everybody. I have a chance to get to 100-something RBIs, and I want to go back there to try to do it."

Refreshingly candid, don't you think? Mora, who's still a few days from returning from a sore hamstring, is just saying what just about everyone in a major league clubhouse would be thinking in the same situation. Everybody is stat-conscious in baseball because so much rides on those stats when it comes time to negotiate a contract or face off against the club in salary arbitration.

Back in the early 1980s, Los Angeles Dodgers first baseman Steve Garvey was the first to admit that he set the same offensive goal every year. He wanted to bat at least .300, hit 30 home runs and amass more than 100 RBIs. Because he was so open about it, he was often accused of being a me-first guy, but he always answered his critics the same way.

"If I reach those numbers,'' he often would say, "then I know I've helped my team."

It was a hard point to argue.

Posted by Peter Schmuck at 7:50 AM | | Comments (10)
        

Comments

Less of Mora....
Who cares about his 100 RBI...
Why is Fahey playing 3B???
Where is Mike Costanzo, and why isn't he getting some time at 3B after playing third in AAA Norfolk all season.
This team is a joke!!!!

Actually, the problem is that those numbers don't matter much. Garvey could do that (although he only hit 30 home runs in a season once) and still not be a great first baseman because of the things that those stats don't measure. Garvey, most glaringly, did not walk, so he could hit .294 for his career but have a poor .329 OBP. He could hit 20 home runs, but not be a real power threat because he would do it in 640 at bats, so he never had a slugging average as high as .500 for a single season.

RBIs are the product of opportunity, and tend to go to players who swing at everything, not helping their team. Someone like Juan Gonzalez or Joe Carter racked up the 100 RBI seasons, while Mickey Mantle had only a handful, even though he was a far superior player.

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Pete's reply: Much of what you say is true, but Garvey was a very good player and a clutch hitter when the spotlight was on.

I agree Peter, but there will still be many readers here, and on other boards, who will say that Melvin is selfish. No matter how he plays, there are always some who seem to want to knock him.

Uhhh Bryan-

RBIs are a very good measure of productivity, you've got to have opportunities with people on base in front of you, yes, but you've got to make that opportunity work. Mora is batting .358 with men in scoring position and slugging .547. Anybody else doing that in the majors? And other than home runs, runs scored are more dependent on other players, and RBI is something a player MADE happen.

BTW, Joe Carter was a winner, world champ and clutch hitter. Had he been juicing his career would have extended beyond 38 years old and had bigger numbers. Also, Mantle batted .296 for his career with men in scoring position, less than his career average. He also played in a pitchers' era and was just a shell of himself after 32, rarely played full seasons and was often injured, so his RIBIs per at bat were pretty good and an effective productivity measurement. I agree with you on Juan Gon who was a steroid freak.

Hey, I lke numbers, obviously, and enjoy watching Mora go for it. What else have we got but individual achievenments left this season?

Pete - don't tell me you think there is such a thing as a clutch hitter? Say it ain't so? Garvey did have some great performances when the spotlight was on, such as in the All-Star game, and in the NLCS, but what about the 1984 World Series, when he hit .200, or the 1978 World Series, when he hit .208? The good performances during visible moments are just normal random fluctuations. There is no such thing as a clutch hitter.


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Pete's reply: I disagree. You're saying that Reggie in October and Hershiser being nearly unbeatable in the postseason are just random fluctuations?

Dickie--I don't know what your problem is with Melvin Mora, but he's a guy that's hit in the clutch all year, was one of the best hitters in the entire majors over second half, and plays a very solid defense. And you want the Orioles to get rid of him for Mike Costanzo, who hasn't shown much in the minors. What are you, Red Sox fan? (LOL) In any case, here's an Orioles fan hoping he's back next year.

Pete--Calling Garvey a "very good player," while true, actually is an understatement. He was the NL's MVP in 1974 (four other times he finished in the top ten in balloting; eight other times in the top 25), was named to 10 All-Star teams (including eight in a row from 1974-81) and won four Gold Gloves. Held the consecutive games without an error record for a firstbaseman until Kevin Youkilis recently broke it. Never struck out 100 times in a season. Lifetime stats: .294 AVE, 1143 R, 2599 H, 272 HR, 1308 RBI. That's a borderline Hall of Fame career, wouldn't you agree?

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Pete's reply: Yes indeed. Also holds the NL record for consecutive games played, Cal Rip fans.


When I was in grade school , Steve Garvey was one of biggest names in baseball . You would have media/fans mention his name during All-Star games and again in Fall post-seasons . Garvey was the cog of that 70's Dodger teams . He doesnt to prove anything to anybody . His name belongs in HOF. Garvey also played during an era when pitching was dominating , unlike today's batting practice pitchers .

I hope he gets the 100+ RBIs that he wants, and that some team will want to trade for him in the off season because if his production, just like I hope they go after Huff. They both will be in the last year of their contracts and will speed up the rebuilding process with what we can get back. It certainly won't be as good as the Bedard trade, but it would help fill a few holes in the system (hopefully a SS for the future).

Trade Mora? Sure, to Seattle...for Bedard, please! Garvey was a babe, who can forget Cindy?

"I didnt do steroids,......before lil league."

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