Hayden Penn deserves another shot. When he originally came up he was compared to Jim Palmer. That may have been presumptuous but, I seem to recall, when Palmer was a rookie, he was sent back to the minors and spent a considerable amount of time there before he became the ace he was. What are scouts saying about Penn since he has spent his time in the minors?

I think you are going to have to find out about Penn sooner or later. He has been around far too long. It is time to make a decision on him.

The Orioles obviously have a bad eye for pitchers or poor training of pitchers.Our hitting is not bad, but our pitching does not limit the hitting of other teams.

Hey Hayden!

O's just need 6 innings. 4 runs or less per start.

I believe Penn is out of options out of this year, so I think he will get the nod.

All Penn has to do is keep himself relaxed and he'll be fine. If he comes up here overthrowing he'll flop. Easier said than done though,this is his big chance to stick and he's a high strung guy.It would be a big plus for the org. if he could solidly nail down a rotation spot. At the same time Bergy should get a shot also just to see if he's viable for next year or just a flash in the pan. He doesn't have the fanfare of being a high pick so he has to earn everything.You have to love his walk rate if nothing else.Not being a strike out pitcher is why people look at him with squinted eyes.

i hope to see Penn come up again, also. I also can't wait to see kids like
Tillman, Albers, Patton, and Arrieta, too.
Good to hear that Liz seems focused on returning.

I'd vote for someone other than Penn. Since his injuries he doesn't have that 95+ mph fastball anymore. He has been working hard to develop location and throw other pitches, but I don't think he's anywhere near ready for major league hitters yet. I'm not saying he'll never make it in the big leagues, but if they bring him up now...and he doesn't pitch effectively, it can't be good for his confidence.

NCBirdfan:
You need to check your facts on Palmer. In 1965, as a 19 year old rookie, he threw 92 innings and won 5 games. In 1966, at age 20, he went 15-10 and became the youngest player ever to throw a shutout in the World Series. In 1967, he got off to a strong start but after throwing 49 innings and going 3-1, the O's had to shut him down because he developed arm trouble. The next year he didn't make an appearance with the Birds as he continued to rehabbed his arm. He returned in 69' at the age of 23 and went 16-4 and threw a no-hitter, and that started a stretch where, in 8 of the next 9 years he won 20 games or more. So he didn't "spent a considerable amount of time in the minors," developing his skills. The only time he missed was part of 67' and all of 68' due to arm trouble. We could be so lucky to have Hayden Penn develop into another Jim Palmer. Although Penn has thrown better in his last two starts, overall he hasn't been impressive at Norfolk, as he has a 4.98 ERA and has given up more hits than innings.

Regarding Penn maybe some patience is in order. Remember the club has a bit of a history of giving up too soon in a couple of cases, specifically Curt Schilling and John Maine.

No more chances for Penn, he isn't committed to being the pitcher he can be and he's not going to be committed at the MLB level. Bergeson has been ridiculous and has earned a shot. When Penn starts getting serious and can avoid injury when doing non-strenuous activities, maybe I'll have some faith in him. Penn is not John Maine or Curt Schilling and to compare him to either is an insult to both.

MrSillyMan say, Palmer in the minors?!? LOL!!! And Penn deserve shot? LMAO!

Look, I watched Penn give up 5 SBs (terrible hold ability) in less than 5 IP down here in Richmond vs the RBraves. The kid has so much stuff to work on, it isn't funny.

If he makes it up, you will not see what you want to see. Will he make? Maybe. But now would be a complete disaster.

Deke,
Thank you for correcting me. I was born in 1964, so I was very young when he started pitching. I made assumptions from stats that I looked up years ago. Next time I will check my information better. Still, I am rooting for Penn. He had a good presence on the mound when he pitched as a rookie.

Speaking of pitchers, what's the deal with Comier? Maybe I am missing something but I don't understand why folks are enamored with him. Lots of weak hits last night but he did allow all 3 inherited base runners to score plus 2 more of his own. Other than maybe Johnson, there's not anyone in that pen (including Sherrill) that I would lose any sleep over if they were gone tomorrow.

Penn has had a lot to deal with going back to a horrific circumstance in high school. Some of us can ignore it and move on, others it just sticks with.

Years ago the O's were pro-acitve working with players and a doc at SP Hospital. Maybe Penn just needs a professional to get him back in focus.

Why does everybody want Penn to come up? Bergesen has had the better season and he's been dominating. You want that kind of starter in the rotation.

Not somebody who's been oft-injured and can't pitch that well. No offense to Penn but I've heard his name far too long and he hasn't even started yet for the Orioles!

I say Trembley goes with Brad Bergensen. See you Tuesday, Brad!

Palmer...Penn
Well, both names do begin with "P"

Other than that, the thing that stuck out to me the last time Penn was up here is that he had a very awkward delivery.
Palmer had one of the smoothest and coolest deliveries you'll ever see.

Oh yea, and Penn's numbers even in minor leagues seems to be poor.
Just where exactly is this clamoring coming from to have him back up here.

I'm baffled, bewildered, and bemused
Bye Bye

Pete, I have yet to see you address the all important matter of your favorite Gilligan's Island episode. I know you are busy but there are thousands....er hundreds....uh well at least two or three of us who really want an answer!

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bb: I'm partial to the one where they guy surfs to the island. pete

Kyle- are you a scout? Do you have some ability judging talent? If so, get a job with the organization and help them out. Anyone can recognize Schilling's and Maine's talent once they figured it out at the major league level. But were you as sure when they were giving up lots of runs early on? I'm curious exactly how sure you are about Penn.