a WHIP of almost two is not a stellar outing, but he did last six and only allow two runs.

7 BB is not a positive unless you're an O's fan, and desperate.
7 BB in 6 IP is dreadful. I don't care if there was a tsunami. So he didn't have a nervous breakdown after he gave up a HR. HE GAVE UP A HR!
He's a big baby.
Adults keep their cool. Especially millionaires.

For the love of Pete someone needs to get Juan Samuel under control! Before people start jumping on Jones for getting thrown out at 3rd by rounding the corner in the 10th...check the replay to see Samuel giving him the pinwheel telling him to go.

I'm all about being aggressive, but Samuel really worries me with his emotional, rather than instinctual, waiving the runners around.

Roch, I don't think the offense is asleep...I just think it's pretty bad. It's going to get awful tough to watch this even if they are in rebuilding mode. With a move here and there they could vastly improve their lineup. I know I am like a broken record, but you cannot have a guy like Kevin Millar in the middle of your order? What person is responsible for that decision...I know - Mcphail...as much as i like what he's done, the lineup is a joke and it could cause some problems for the developemnt of markakis if they do not protect him with a legitimate bat.

>Adults keep their cool. Especially millionaires.

ROTFL. You must not know many millionaires. Certainly not the Hollywood variety. Nor the politicos. Or the captains of business for that matter.

Gary Thorne can't possibly get paid. This has to be some kind of training program. He doesn't know that a caught foul tip is a live ball, it was obvious by his call of the play. I used to think his frequent verbal errors were related to his drinking, but this year it has become clear that he needs to stick to hockey. Oh wait , all is forgiven Pedro's brother just hit a homerun to put us in the lead. Throw a little more "Crown" in the coffee please.

I agree Gary, the problem is, what legitimate bat would you recommend? Markakis and Roberts are the only quality bats we have available to us barring signing a 40 year old, out of work DH.

I also agree that 7 walks over 6+ is not positive. After his last three starts I was hoping for something a bit more out of him.

tvdpdx - who care how many walks he had, He only gave up 2 runs!! Last time I checked that is an ERA of 3.00. If he can carry a 3.0 ERA all year, who cares if he gives up 10 walks a game?

What, is his WHIP killing your fantasy team? And can you name me a pitcher that doesn't give up Homeruns?

Cut the guy some slack. He looks like he could be our best pitcher this year.

7 walks is not good, but he did only give up 2 runs in 6.1 innings.

If we could get that out of Trax or even Guthrie we would be happy. Cabrera got us in a position to win that game, and that is a good outing.

Umm, Roch, you forgot to mention the SEVEN walks that Cabrera gave up. Yeah, he's reformed all right.

The offense is snoring. Good in the clutch though.

I agree with Roch. With those conditions, most pitchers would be pretty wild, considering the temperature was around freezing, it was raining nonstop, and the field kept getting muddier and muddier. If you had actually WATCHED Cabrera pitch, you would actually see that Cabrera still had the confidence he had in his previous starts, allowing him to get out of jams the weather caused. But hey, why bother watching the actual game when we can just look at the boxscore. Boxscores ALWAYS tell the whole story.

Everybody's hanging on Cabrera, but if you actually looked, Vasquez was throwing wild as well. It's just that nobody sees that because the Orioles were swinging at everything while the White Sox were taking almost every pitch.

Pitching itself is hard enough. Pitching in that kind of condition is damn near impossible. I doubt even Brandon Webb could pitch through that kind of weather. Well, unless the opponet swings at every pitch, that is.

Also, forgot to mention this, but lefty, Gary's not the only one to get a Hernandez's name wrong.

Both Joe Angel and Fred Manfra have called both Hernandez's Martinez multiple times this season. I also watched one of the Angels/Tigers games where the Detroit guys called K-Rod "Francisco Hernandez," so it's not like Thorne's the only one out there messing up names. If you actually branch out and watch other games, you'd notice that.

WTF you people want out of Cabrera, a no hitter every time out?
If this team could score a few damn runs, he easily wins this one, and Guthrie should have last night as well. Wan't to complain about something, complain about that. And far as Sammy being agressive at 3rd, what choice does he have? He knows nobody is going to drive them in from 3rd, so why not try.

I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere an announcer on a Latino station isn't calling Jones Smith or Roberts Roberto. Just a cultural thing, don't you think, most likely corrected with time in that location?

Tracey is right- Samuel was sending Jones! I was completely baffled by that- especially since the ball was rolling right to the SS! THe best that we could have hoped for is Jones winning a collision at the plate, but I'd have put my $$$ on Pierzinski in that one.

I have to agree with Roch in considering it a positive outing for Daniel. In the past, once he got into a jam he would lose his cool and give up some runs. He didn't do that. I was at the game and it was probably the most miserable conditions I have ever sat through at a game, and how anyone could get a grip on the ball much less throw strikes was beyond me. I have to credit all of the guys in sticking with it yesterday.

I used to think his frequent verbal errors were related to his drinking, but this year it has become clear that he needs to stick to hockey.

A few eyars ago he was selected as the worst hockey announcer covering the NHL... he's no better there

I totally agree with you Roch.

Every pitcher is going to have an elevated walk total every now and then, espescially in these conditions.

People will look at that and say "the old Cabrera's back." However, Cabrera's biggest problem, as you mentioned, has not been his command, but his focus. He's had horrible struggles pitching from the windup in years past, and whenever he got runners on, he'd get flustered, lose his focus and give up a pile of runs.

This year, he has really impressed me with his ability to work out of jams (some self-created) and pull the plug before teams can get their runners across the plate.