tj is not a legit no. 1? are you serious with that, 112 receptions 1150 yds 12 tds on a team that has chad johnson demanding the ball? i would say that is as legit number 1 as you get. is there anything wrong with having a younger, dmase who is bigger and more of a red zone target? sign him and then draft a big guy in 4th round and you got mase tj and draftee. you can't say that he isn't a no1 he is leading the league in receptions.

We need a big target. I don't like the idea of trying to draft a WR in the first round. Other than trading for Boldin (too many picks to give up, I'm sure), what else is there?

Good call Mike. The unlikely dream scenario is a trade for Boldin or another #1, or somehow landing Crabtree in the draft.

I think you have to give whatever they ask for Boldin. That man is a beast. I am sure you heard about the game after he returned from having his face put back together after that vicious hit in the end zone last month.

Also, you are crazy to think that TJ How's yo mama, is not a #1 receiver. He outplays the rest of his team week in and week out. That's not saying much considering it's the Bungles. But, I have to agree w/ pv. Basically, there are going to be some good receivers in the offseason. You go after one of them and use your high draft pick for a cornerback. Then find a tall fast receiver in the later rounds.

"Somehow land Crabtree". Won't happen. I don't see how we could move up into the top 5 of the draft. And getting Boldin would be outstanding, but I don't think we can afford to trade away draft picks right now. We have too many holes to fill (CB, DE, OT, etc.).

No dice Chris. Crabtree is going #1 to the Lions.

Agreed,,,he's also getting up there in age. I like the idea of us going after younger vets who are still vying for their shot to play, i.e. Malcolm Floyd, Steve Breaston, Chris Henry, Hank Baskett, City College product Bryant Johnson?? You also have some potential in the draft. Darious Heyward-Bey could be a game breaker. He doesn’t get to completely showcase his skills at UMD b/c Turner cannot get the ball downfield.

Correct me if I'm wrong Mike, but doesn't he lead the league in catches?
Where's Heap?

pv, he has those numbers because of Och Cinco, not in spite of. He wouldnt get open if D's weren't focusing on Johnson. TJ is a very mediocre WR, and also not a very likable person. I dont see anybody buying a Houshamwhatzee ravens Jersey, ever.

How about the fact he is a head case...

Are you seriously comparing Mark Clayton and T.J. Houshmandzadeh? Talk about an easy was to loose credibility.

T.J. is not needed on this team, and he is hardly younger then Mason. Houshmandzadeh is 31 and will turn 32 at the start of next season.

I would not get Housh or Boldin. They are hitting that hill range for receivers at age 30. The problem with those two is that they don't have the speed to get separation and plus the price would be too steep to get them. It would not be worth it in my opinion. You would be better off developing the talent you have than pay big bucks and squandering future prospects and filling other holes than with receivers who would have like 3 years of shelf life.

Get Crabtree via draft and get Chad Johnson via trade and have him change his name to Evelyn.

And I seriously doubt Crabtree will be available when it's our time to pick in the first round next year.

I'd take Chad Johnson in a heartbeat. I think he would be a different player here.

My question is---how come the Ravens are'nt beating the bushes for a big wide reciever right now....someone on a practice team or a late cut during the pre-season? There's a fellow out of Oregon by the name of Cameron Colvin who was a free-agent but who i don't think caught on who is big, runs and catches. He was a target of Dennis Dixon's. Why wait? The Ravs are hurting at reciever right now---try something

tj get those numbers because ocho gets all the attention. i am sure when a defense gameplan they say we gonna double team ohco and make tj beat us. tj is not a #1 reciever and he is not the second best wr on that team either beause the guy thei kicked off the team then resign is a better wr

I agree Mike. TJ is not a receiver that teams scheme against and double team. We need a big receiver that can catch a contested ball. We've been missing that guy since Michael Jackson.

pv: mason leads the league in receptions alot as well they are known as possesion receivers we need a true number 1 not a number 2 like tj

I think going after TJ might be something to consider although his age bothers me. As for those calling for bigger receivers we did draft a few who aren't being used this year so I don't think going after another one is a great idea. Heyward Bey could drop to us simply because I think he may still be to raw as a receiver, his hands are very suspect at times.

"No dice Chris. Crabtree is going #1 to the Lions." And they will draft another legit #1 receiver who wont get the ball thrown to him...

Heyward Bey could, could being the key word, develop into a decent #1 receiver IF he learns to catch the ball. His route running has improved over the last year but he still needs work running the correct route.

TJ NOT A NUMBER 1? PV is right, he leads the league in catches despite his All Pro QB sitting on the bench. He has overtaken Chad Johnson as the teams number 1 because he performs. Any reciever would be a head case with that talent on a team like the Bungles. He is not the same mold as Mason as far as being a possesion rcver. Look at his TD numbers last year. He doesnt run little squirrel routes diff ways like mason to get open. He can really run a ten and in and make the catch. Not a 5 and juke and turn around for a simple completion.

I hope Preston was just trying to make convo with this one. If Housh isnt a number one... then Reggie Wayne wasnt (b/c of Harrison) Boldin isnt (Fitzgerald) ya get my point

its not like he's peerless price with eric moulds on the other side.

This isn't fantasy football. Numbers don't tell the whole story.

All you Houshmanzedah lovers who claim he is a #1 need to stop sniffing the fantasy dust. Comparre his numbers to Derroc Mason's. The primary difference is touchdowns. Toushmanzedah DOES NOT stretch the field, which is what #1 receivers need to do- at least what OUR #1 receiver needs to do. Derrick Mason is considered my many to be no better than a #2 or 3 receiver- but according to your standards, I could easily make an argument he's a number 1. He is also putting up his numbers WITH NONE ELSE- while TJ has had Chad JOhnson to keep the focus off him. What did TJ do last night with no Chad JOhnson?

We need more than a bigger stronger version of Derrick Mason. We need a FASTER, TALLER #1 WR to really take advantage of Flacco's arm and the rest of the offense.

If Crabtree does, and probably will, go to the LIONS, what happens with Calvin Johnson. As I remember him from GT he was a reliable rcvr. there. Would he be an option/available? FOrget Bouldin, they won't sign him nor does he want to come East.

I like Houshmandzadeh, but I agree with the contention that he's not a no.1 wide-out. He's a great 2, but he's not that guy that defenses fear. I compare Houshmanzadeh to Alvin Harper, who had some great years playing second fiddle to Michael Irvine.

Heyward-Bey is an interesting pick. I think of Keyshawn Johnson when I watch Heyward-Bey, but he he doesn't have Johnson's hands yet. Like Johnson, he's able to make big plays despite his lack of great speed.

Jason, Heyward-Bey runs a like a 4.2 or 4.3 in the 40. Keyshawn is a big possession WR.

I would bring in Housh if the price was right and then draft someone like Heyward-Bey. Even though Housh is a possession WR, at least he's big enough to be a redzone target, unlike Mason. Having a Mason, a bigger Mason, and a big burner like Heyward-Bey is a good group of talent from WR.

The Ravens also need a CB.

I trust Ozzie, though. If they grabbed a defensive lineman in the first round, I'd be happy b/c Ozzie does know what he's doing.

I'd steer clear of any of those "skill player" bengals. With the locker room problems they've been having from those prima donnas, we do not want to bring that in to baltimore. Plus, would TJ be such a threat without Chad Johnson getting double teamed every play?

Sounds like T-O is the answer !

i think they should go for Michael Crabtree in the drift (if he makes that far down) but what i have seen through out this season is that Mark Clayton can not get up the field and get open, (and you can count out the other one, i wont even name him) besides mason. but Houshmandzadeh is just another chad and that is not match for our ravens.

The way to go is to stockpile as many 2nd and 3rd round picks as possible. Crabtree is definately the best WR coming out... but what about Bryant from Ok St, Harvin from UF, Williams and Norwood from PSU, Benn from ILL, Macklin from Mizz, and Bey is the fastest guy in the nation...There's tons of "real" guys out there now. Also TE is a need too, Heap is straight lumbing out there..and Wilcox can't stay healthy...

Please, for the love of God, no Houshmandzadeh! The Ravens don't need anymore huge egos the team. they should pursue more top-prospect rookies in the Draft.