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March 14, 2007

Mason

There is always a market for veteran wide receivers during free agency, and Randy Moss' name is currently being tossed around as trade bait. Since Derrick Mason said he might want to play elsewhere at the end of last season, I wonder if the Ravens have been shopping him around. He might draw some interesting offers.  - Mike Preston

Posted by Mike Preston at 8:50 AM | | Comments (30)
        

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I hope they do. The Ravens have always demanded that their players play unselfishly, and Mason has refused to do that in consecutive seasons. It's just as irritating as Rodrigo Lopez crying about being moved to the bullpen. It's selfish and detrimental to the team's philosophy.

On the other hand, I respect Mason. I think he's earned his right to be a #1 or 2 reciever in a potent passing offense. He's scrappy, talented, and driven. So if the Ravens don't provide him with the opportunity to be that player, then maybe we need to go our separate ways and get market value for him.

While I think Mason is still a great player and I think he really helped to improve our offense, I would rather see Clayton and Williams as the starting wideouts. They would really complement each other. Williams is a tall fast deap threat, and Clayton has that burst and escapability. Mason is just an older Mark Clayton. Let's face it. Mason has not been happy here, and he did not have the chemistry with McNair that everyone thought he would. Maybe it is time to let him go. Maybe we could get one of those 3rd round picks back.

We do NOT want to lose Mason. He's a clutch wide-out and we've never had that (except Stokely when not injured). Moss is about as far away from clutch as you can get.

Putting Mason on the trading block would be a good idea. While they're at it add M. Anderson and D. Wilcox. Ravens need to expierment how they can further upgrade the team. These guys would draw some attention.

Yea we should be able to get a couple picks and a player for him.

Mike,

there is no way the Ravens are shoppin around Mason. Mason brings a veteran quality to this team unlike no other on our roster at his position. If the Ravens were to loose Mason, sure his production will not be missed too too mcuh, but there will be an indirect effect on the passing game. There is no doubt that Mark Clayton's emergence as the number one receiver and D Williams as the big play threat is credited to Mason. Besides what would we get other than maybe a 4th round pick at best or a trade for another receiver who is looking to cash in. I say keep Mason and let him mentor to a possible rookie receiver who can serve as our number three receiver when Mason leaves.

Mason never said he wanted to be traded. Mason sait that he didn't feel he was utilized the way he should have been.

I believe those words of derrick mason was mostly from anger after the lost to the colts. I do not believe the Ravens aren't shopping him because of his veteran presence in the locker room. Next year may be a different story though I believe he will be a salary cap cut!

I agree. When Mason came here I was so exited because it brought instint credibility to our wide recieving corps. I also thought we were getting a team guy one that wanted to win but maybe that is a thing of the past especialy for wide recievers. I dont understand how you can be disgruntled on a 13-3 team its not like he is a hall of famer who needs the numbers what he needs is a super bowl ring you would think anyway. So if he wants to play somewhere else lets get something for him while we still can. I guess what im thinking is with the players we have at the point in their careers that they are in we need players that are focused on winning a super bowl now not only their personnel statistics.

No way! We can't get caught up in the high profile receiver act again. We got burned with T.O. and over paid high profile receivers don't have a place in Baltimore. Mason is a warrior, and moss is the most popular among defensive backs. They know he quits and gives up on routs. We want D Mason becasue he resembles a tough town, and a tough football team. He may be vocal at times, but that's cause he wants to win. The only time Randy Moss is vocal is when he is trying to quit!!

I've wondered about this myself. Teams that instantly come to mind as needing WR help - New Orleans (interested in trading for Darrell Jackson), Green Bay (interested in trading for Randy Moss), Minnesota, Philadelphia, Kansas City, Tennessee and San Diego.

Mason instantly adds credibility to any teams receiving group. The draft is extremely deep at the receiver position, but for a team looking for a proven, reliable, and viable fringe #1 type receiver, Mason will get the job done.

I think the Ravens could easily get a late first day pick for Mason, which would soften the blow of the McGahee trade substantially.

I'd send Mason to the Packers for their third round pick tomorrow, and thank him for his service.

I think the Ravens would be wise to move Mason! There is likely a very good reason he did not get the ball thrown his way has often is he would have liked, namely "diminishing skills". Nows the time to get some value for him, possibly a 3rd or 4th round pick? Bet the Titans would be willing to bringing him back considering his history there and their obvious need for a wide receiver. Starting D. Williams would make defenses respect the deep pass and open the underneath routes. With the depth at WR in this years draft a decent slot receiver should be available in Rd's 2 through 4.

Mason is a good wide receiver, just good. Not the best, or the worst. I think we would get someone okay back, unless he would be part of a big deal.

Mike, Wouldn't the acceleration of the rest of Mason's signing bonus just two years into his contract make it salary cap-prohibitive to try and trade him at this point?

Well this is something that should happen. Sour attitudes are a cancer on a team. But Reed has made no less a cancer of himself.
Yes trade the both. Mason probably a 2nd to 3rd round. Reed is a 1st and 4h conbo. Do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like someone else mentioned, he never asked to be traded. He wanted more action. Who can blame him. Have you ever played wide receiver? If you don't want the ball everytime you shouldn't be out there. I think his comments were appropriate and not over the top. Maybe if the coaching staff would have listened might have actually scored against the Colts.

I think we could get something .however I don't think the raiders would wap moss for him

Mason is truly excess baggage--even though he has a history with McNair. Unfortunately, he's the Samarri Rolle of our offense--easy to dispose of cheaply (do I hear a 2009 7th round conditional pick?), We keep buildng our WR group, and no longer require his services. Accordingly, his pink slip should accmpany him to the door. Viva Clayton and Williams! We're set!

Mason compared to Clayton/Williams is a slow, washed-up WR. I would take a 7th round 2008 pick for this overrated stif

If we really want to win a SuperBowl, trade Heap, Mason and Rolle. Heap is past his prime and a terrible blocker and STILL does not know how to hold onto a football. Is he even drawing a double team anymore?? Breaking down defenses at all?? They can still get a first rounder for him though because of the perception of his greatness...he's no different than Darnell Dinkins at this point except he's not as good of a blocker. Let Mason put the "eye" in team somewhere else...nothing worse than a grown man whining especially one making millions of dollars. Hey Derrick! Get over it!!! Your team was winning while spreading the ball around...Ozzie get 'em outta here!! As for Samari, he makes too much money to only play nickel which is what he's projected to play this season...clear the cap room and bring in a talented youngster or better yet just play Pittman who was drafted in last year's 3rd round...he needs to earn his paycheck at some point too unless they are paying him to practice and lift weights??

Trade Mason? How about no.


Mason was upset because he wasn't getting the ball like he'd expect. And he couldn't voice his displeasure on that becuase the man throwing the ball, Steve McNair, was someone he lobied them to get.


The team took a definite step forward with McNair. But honestly, I think if you look at the passing game, instead of the W-L collumn (which is what is important), the passing game has taken a step back.


Boller actually brought us a number of multi TD games with 300+ yardage in this last 10 or so starts.


You have to think Mason thought things would get better for him statistically with McNair throwing the rock.


They didn't.


Part of that you can attribute to the emergence of Demetrius Williams and Mark Clayton


BUT part of that you can attribute to McNair's conservative play and the lack of zip on his ball, especially the deep out / comeback.


But Mason can't point particular fingers for reason I said above.


Thats my opinoin on it.

Derrick Mason is one of the most consistent and respected receivers in the NFL.His presence in Baltimore has aided the development of other receivers and taken pressure off of Todd Heap who had literally carried the Ravens' passing game the previous three years.

With that in mind, the Ravens have nothing to lose by shopping Mason. Receivers have always proven to be among the most selfish players in the NFL. If Mason isn't getting his catches, he'll whine. Steve McNair has a wealth of options now when he drops back to pass. Clayton is a gamebreaker, Williams has proven he can hold his own, Heap is still conistent and productive and McGahee can actually catch passes out of the backfield ( unlike Twinkle Toes). The days of Mason getting 90-100 balls a year are over because the Ravens simply have too many other valuable options. This clearly created discontent with Mason at the tail end of last season and it will carryover to this year especially if the Ravens start losing.

Moving Mason now has numerous benefits. It'll return valuable draft picks and lighten the forthcoming salary cap purge. But most importantly it'll remove a tumor from the lockeroom before it becomes malignant and spreads.

HE is a cry baby. He should be sent to our dumping gorunds(cleveland). I want players who go the extra mile and he does not really do that. I have watched him stop running many routes. Since I am donating 33% more money to their salaries this year thanks to the ticket increase I think we should go get someone who does not cry when he does not get the ball. He is almost as bad as TO without all the publicity. He cried after half the games last year. Maybe Trade him for a draft pick and Bring in some more young support for Clayton and Heap.

What did Mason do wrong? I will always take some one on my team that is willing to step up and demand what he thinks is right. Mason was upset that they lost, and upset that plays were no longer being called to him. Can you blame a man for wanting to help his team win?

Why can Ed Reed put the ravens down, and that gets no negative feedback. Ed is half the reason the Rolle was beat deep so many times this year, if you expect a teamate to have your back, then he should have your back. Ed is just as much to blame on blown coverages.

YES, TRADE MASON TO SAN FRANCISCO FOR ONE OF THEIR THREE 4TH ROUND PICKS. PREFERABLY THEIR FIRST 4TH WHICH IS THE 100TH OVERALL. SF NEEDS RECEIVERS AND MASON WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR THEM.

Come on, what is wrong! Bad, Bad and bad. Jamal, Mason, Heap and Ray Lewis is bad, Ed Reed is bad, Samari Rolle is bad!!! And BB well.......
Wake up! We went from 6-10 to 13-3! (Ray, Ed, Pryce and McNair and two rookies - They were a main reason for the turnaround)
We Have just had our best defensive season, well some would argue we were better in our SB season, well could be, but I believe last seasons D were the better: NUMBER ONE in score and yards. And NUMBER ONE in turnover ratio and in sack ratio. Big Ben was sacked more in the two games against us than McNair did the whole season. And our passing game have just had the best season since 97. What is wrong with your people! Are People suggesting we are better of with McGahee and some rookies!!!!!!!!!! I say keep Mason. And Heap, Ray, Ed and Rolle.

Just read an interesting article about compensatory picks that teams will get during this year and next years drafts....Clayton over at ESPN said the Ravens may get 3 this year, between the 3rd and 5th rounds, and 4 next year.....suddenly the McGahee trade is not such a bad deal, and with Newsome's track record, could bring the much needed shot in the arm of youth the team needs on the O and D lines......go Ravens, keep playing it smart, build from the draft, and a free agent here and there, this team could be strong for years to come............

Are you guys crazy. Can't trade Mason he has help tutor Clayton, and for those of you who say he is not a team player this is the same guy who during his offseason came to help McNair get a jumpstart on learning the system. He may have said so things but they were out of agunish of defeat He is a team player who wants to be part of the team not left out of the game plan. DONOT trade MASON.

The only player I really feared when we played Tenn. was Mason. I still believe he is the go to guy and the FO should tell him that. He knows he can get it done. That's what you're hearing when he says what he does. He just wants to win.

It wouldnt hurt my feelings if they dealt him as long as the get a pick in return,since they lost some getting willis.

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