In a sport where a submission can come out of nowhere and change the outcome, if an opponent is even a little lubed up, it can change everything.

Please join my Facebook protest group. "Lubricants in the sack, not in the octagon!"

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=51464576684&ref=nf

I agree with Trace 100%. You can't assume in a fight that something like that will not matter. If you're a stand-up guy, do you really want that to tarnish your win anyway? Why all the greasing anyway...what's the point of it, other than to be slippery? Smacks of dirty tactics to me. Good call Trace!

I don't exactly disagree with you guys, but what does the rule actually say about it? All I've been able to find says you can't have 'excessive' grease on your face or your body, but the way it is worded seems to say that you can have some. Maybe the rule should be changed, but cheating--I don't know. If Penn really thought he was cheated out of a victory wouldn't he be demanding a rematch? Don't you still think the better fighter that night won? I do.

No I won't join your Facebook group.

I am more inclined to agree with Mark. This had no bearing on the fight. If you read some of Keith Kizer's interviews, he said that he personally wiped Georges off with a towel when he went into the cage to scold the corner man. Even if he was greased by his corner, the rubber guard BJ uses is a high guard but he he holds one foot with his hand to tie up his opponent. He couldn't use it because he was too weak to hold GSP down.
This was a pathetic fight for BJ. He was supposed to dominate the stand up and show how great his BJJ was but failed to really show that either one was in his arsenal. The only thing I am hoping happens is that BJ fights once more in the LW division so he can get dominated by Florian and totally tarnish his reputation before retiring. Disagree if you want, but talent isn't enough in the UFC anymore. If BJ can't find some heart and learn how to get in shape for a fight, he doesn't belong in the UFC.

NOTE: Jogging at a snails pace does not qualify as UFC caliber cardio!

If the NSAC does find some fault in the way GSP was cornered during the fight, the fine or suspension should fall on the corner man. It sounds like Kizer wants to sweep it under the rug, but if they don't I think the corner is at fault not Georges.

Listen up KOOKS! I 'm tired of hearing "Don't take anything from GSP", even though he cheated. He may have been the better fighter that night (who knows he cheated) he may won the fight anyway (who knows he cheated). In MMA you could fight the fight of your life until the very last minute and get your jaw checked or you get put squarely in a triangle. The point is BJ could have had him in a Triangle or some other submission, it only takes a split second in this game. He could not get the grip he needed! So why shouldn't GSP be striped of the win? After all, do we teach out children it's okay to cheat as long as you were going to pass the test anyway. Or go ahead and use steroids, you were going to make the tackle any way. BJ keep fighting and F***the french man.
Later KOOKS!

Ok, I watched the fight. not once did i see BJ try a triangle or choke, arm bar etc..where it slipped due to greasing...what i saw was GSP overpowering him completely. There was no submission becuase BJ could not get one..period. GSP dominated him standing up, in clinches and on the ground. In your own words BJ " grow some balls" and quit crying.

B.J. is full of excuses, and I'm tired of it.

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Cheating is cheating no matter how it may or may not have effected the fight. None of you can say you remember every little twist and turn in the fight. I can say that I've never seen anyone pass BJ's guard like that. GSP was doing it at will. My only hang up is that I think BJ should stay in lightweight and I don't really want to see a GSP vs. BJ 3. Neither 1 or 2 were very exciting in my opinion.

I still don't think anyone can say definitively that there was any cheating. Keith Kizer said that he wiped GSP down before both the 2nd and 3rd rounds when there was a question about what exactly the corner men did. So if anything he should have been extra dry. The NSAC hasn't said anyone cheated and they won't say it affected the fight.

Matt BJ sucks, get used to it. You may feel you have all the evidence you need to put an asterisk next to GSP's name on this fight, but until someone says they cheated and GSP absolutely had grease on him during the fight, you don't have a leg to stand on. The corner man made a big mistake, but according to Kizer it was absolutely fixed before the round began. So by all means, tell me how that makes GSP the cheater and how that possibly affected the fight.

For those who have not read it, this is the statement, directly from the horses mouth.

MMAJunkie.com speaks with Kizer:

"At the end of the second round I watched, and then another cornerman who I believe was Greg Jackson, he put the Vaseline on Georges' face, and then he put his hand on his back to do the breathing thing they always do," Kizer said. "As soon as I saw that, it looked like there was still some Vaseline on his hand. Not a lot, but still some...

"We wiped [St. Pierre] down very, very hard," Kizer said. "And even after the end of the third round, even though there was no touching of his back with Vaseline, we still wiped him down again after that round, too, just to be safe. You do the best you can to make it back to an even playing field and go from there.

GSP kicked BJ's ass period. All you crybaby BJ fans should just shut up and get over it.

Just for the record, I am not a BJ fan nor a GSP fan-I don't particularly like either one of them, but I was the second comment here. I just think if there is no rule in place regarding this, there needs to be one. In this day and age of little conscience in sports, lets just make things fair. GSP looked great and clearly won, but that's no reason not to improve upon the rules. And just for the record, for everyone who writes in comments and opinions-saying shut-up or be quiet or anything like that is really silly on a FORUM. Speak your peace and respect others opinions. It's an opinion forum and I think people tend to forget that. Without dissenting opinions, things would be very boring and I'm pretty sure Mark would like as many opinions as he can get (please correct me if I'm wrong, Mark). Thanks for hearing my humble opinion.

Enough said,
If anything GSP was extra dry. More so than if his corner had of wiped him.
Now you had the athletic commission wiping him down.
BJ was dominated worse than than a poodle at a pitbull convention.
The proof is you will never see BJ./GSP3 because BJ will not allow himself to be beat like that again.