What they're saying about the Ravens (part two)
Here's a roundup of national media coverage on the Ravens, part two.
For part one, click here.
CBSSports.com's Clark Judge offers his take on the Ravens' selection of Delaware quarterback Joe Flacco:
This is what bothers me about Baltimore's pick of Joe Flacco: The Ravens are putting him in the same position as another big-armed quarterback, Kyle Boller, when he was a rookie. Boller didn't have an experienced quarterback to school him, and neither will Flacco. You tell me who's going to mentor the guy: Boller or Troy Smith? Oh, and one other thing: When you saw that video of Flacco heaving the ball a mile, did it remind you of those pre-draft stories of Boller bombing 50-yarders from his knees? Yeah, me, too.
Jason Cole of Yahoo Sports gives the Ravens a C:
There’s a lot of excitement about Flacco, who has a cannon arm. But look at the history of the league: QBs who are taller than 6-5 generally aren’t very good. They can’t move fast enough to avoid hits. Flacco lumbers when he moves and he’s making a big jump from Delaware. Good luck. Rice is a very good backup to Willis McGahee, and Gooden is a much better player than he showed at Miami.
Too early for a 2009 mock draft? ESPN.com's Todd McShay doesn't think so. He has the Ravens picking 14th and taking Illinois cornerback Vontae Davis:
The Ravens need an upgrade at corner and a young playmaker like Davis, who possesses rare athleticism for his size, would be an ideal fit.
SI.com's Andrew Perloff has the Ravens picking ninth and taking Oklahoma offensive tackle Phil Loadholt in next year's draft:
At 6-foot-8 and at least 350 pounds, Loadholt could draw some comparisons to Jonathan Ogden. He's not that good, but certainly grades as a first-rounder.
ESPN.com's Gregg Easterbrook praises Ozzie Newsome for his moves in the first round:
Net of Ravens' first-day trades: The Nevermores gave up the eighth choice overall and a sixth-round pick for the 18th choice overall (used to grab Joe Flacco, whom they might have chosen had they stayed put), a third-round pick and two fourth-round picks. At a time when trading down is hard, credit Ozzie Newsome for pulling three midround choices out of the air.
John Czarnecki of FoxSports.com gives the Ravens an A- for the draft:
With Boston College quarterback Matt Ryan gone, the Ravens did the wise thing and traded down with Jacksonville, knowing they would be able to take Delaware's Joe Flacco later in the first round. Flacco was a definite need with Steve McNair retired and Kyle Boller never holding onto the job. Flacco is 6-foot-6 and has a solid arm. Rutgers RB Ray Rice was a steal with the 55th pick, and he'll give Willis McGahee a chance to rest. Notre Dame safety Tom Zbikowski is a former boxer and tough guy. David Hale of Weber State played well in the East-West Shrine Game and could develop into an offensive tackle, although he lacks athleticism.
CBSSports.com's Judge names the Ravens drafting of Flacco one of the five biggest gambles of the draft:
The Ravens moved up to take him with the 18th pick when they probably could've gotten him by sitting tight in the second round. That means they had a conviction about Flacco, and that's good. Here's hoping they have better luck with this move than the last time they traded up to take a quarterback.
ESPN.com's Floyd Reese praises the Ravens for their trades on Day One of the draft:
Even though many claim it was impossible for the Ravens to trade and improve their selection, they scalped Jacksonville and moved down to No. 26. Again, either due to intelligence or fear, they jumped up to No. 18 and were still able to draft their man. This is an outstanding example of the Ravens' working the board to ensure they get their choice and value for the pick. This maneuvering set the tempo for the entire weekend and a solid draft for Baltimore.
CBSSports.com's Pete Prisco hands out grades and gives the Ravens a C:
Best pick: Third-round pick Tavares Gooden was the best defender on a Miami defense that included two players picked higher than him. Ray Lewis has a fellow from The U. he can take under his wing.
Questionable move: Trading up to get quarterback Joe Flacco. They probably could have stayed at 26 and still landed him. Plus, Brian Brohm and Chad Henne were better options.
Second-day gem: Safety Tom Zbikowski, a third-round pick, is one of those players who will find his way onto the field. He will be a special-teams star -- bare minimum.
Overall grade: C. They reached for Flacco and I didn't really like the pick of Ray Rice in the second round.
Dan Wetzel of Yahoo Sports names the Ravens one of his winners from the '08 draft:
Plan B was Joe Flacco of Delaware. He wasn’t worth drafting at No. 8, and there was no threat someone else would grab him – plus, why get stuck paying more money? So the Falcons dropped to 28th, then sprung back up to 18th and at the end of the day got the guy they wanted, for less money, and wound up with extra third- and fourth-round selections to boot. (They lost a sixth-rounder, but whatever). That’s fine draft maneuvering. The caveat here is how good is Flacco? Is he just the reincarnation of Kyle Boller? A number of player personnel directors who didn’t need a quarterback think Michigan’s Chad Henne was the best non-Matt Ryan option out there. But Baltimore made its decision and made it work in every imaginable way.
Wetzel says Flacco's draft party is one of his losers:
Through the years, one of the best parts of the draft is watching the video from the family parties. The legendary bash that LenDale White appeared to be throwing when Tennessee took him remains the stuff of legend. That was a crowd that was enjoying itself. Flacco needs to step up his game from I-AA to NFL starter. Even his family and friends wore silly “Let’s Go Joe” t-shirts. Marlo Stanfield will not allow him to represent Baltimore like that.
Clifton Brown of the Sporting News gives the Ravens a C+:
Getting Joe Flacco was important, but they took a major risk trading out of the No. 8 spot. Ray Rice is a small back, but he should form a nice combo with Willis McGahee.
Matt Hayes of the Sporting News looks at the Flacco pick from different perspectives:
Turning Leaf: OK, let's review: Flacco plays for Pittsburgh. Flacco can't beat out Tyler Palko for the starting job, despite the new coaching staff and a clean slate. Flacco transfers to I-AA Delaware and puts up huge numbers against inferior competition. The words "red flag" come to mind.
Hello, West Texas A&M: Prototype NFL size, rocket arm, no mobility. The exact description of a guy named Leaf. This has Arena League written all over it.
Bill Polian's perfect world: Let's see: Brian Brohm, John David Booty, Erik Ainge -- take your pick. Frankly, I want a guy who's not afraid to compete. Is that too much to ask?
Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com and the Sporting News says the Ravens disregarded the trade chart when trading down with Jacksonville:
The picks Jacksonville gave up (a first-rounder, two third-rounders and a fourth-rounder) totaled 1,127 points under the chart. The pick the Jaguars received from the Ravens was worth 1,400 points. That's a 273-point difference. Ravens officials didn't care because they're not handcuffed to the concept of getting a certain number of points. They wanted to do the deal because they wanted to draft their quarterback of the future at a spot lower than No. 8. So they accepted the offer, landed three more picks and ultimately got their guy, Joe Flacco, at a much lower salary slot. The move gives other teams ammunition to criticize the Ravens, but none of it will matter if Flacco can play.
USA Today's Larry Weisman gives the Ravens a C:
Wanted a QB. They suspected Matt Ryan would not fall to them in the eighth spot and could not trade up. So they dropped down and grabbed a recent riser in Joe Flacco. Big arm, but how his skills translate from a smaller college program (Delaware) to the NFL is anyone's guess. Filling this position has been an intractable problem for years. Did not get an OT to replace Jonathan Ogden. Grade is higher if you like trade for CB Fabian Washington, a former No. 1 of Oakland's acquired for a fourth-round pick.
Vic Carucci of NFL.com characterizes the Ravens' draft as "solid":
If the Ravens finally found their franchise quarterback in first-rounder Joe Flacco, then this draft was a huge success. The strong-armed Flacco was a star at tiny Delaware, raising questions about whether he is up to the transition to the NFL. But the Ravens had enough of a conviction in him to deal down from No. 8, when it was clear they would not be able to get Ryan, and then back up to to land Flacco with the No. 18 pick. Although the Ravens already have a franchise running back in Willis McGahee, they made a key move to help their depth at the position by grabbing Rutgers' Ray Rice in the third round. The Ravens got some solid help at safety, by selecting Notre Dame's Tom Zbikowski in the third round, and at cornerback by sending a fourth-round choice to Oakland for Fabian Washington.
Rick Gosselin of The Dallas Morning News gives the Ravens a C:
The Ravens needed a quarterback and probably overextended for Flacco. New head coach John Harbaugh didn't forget his special teams roots when he drafted safeties Zbikowski and Nakamura and WR Smith.
Mark Maske of The Washington Post says he didn't like the Ravens' draft:
Joe Flacco might end up being the answer at quarterback. He might end up being well worth the 18th pick in the draft. But at the moment the Ravens drafted him, they didn't need to use the 18th pick to get a quarterback of Flacco's draft-day value. They could have stayed put at 26th after trading down and, if Flacco was gone, taken Brian Brohm.
Tony Moss of The Sports Network gives the Ravens a C+:
Flacco was a bit of a reach and doesn't look to be game-ready, but Baltimore obviously rated him above of the likes of Brian Brohm and Chad Henne. Rice was drafted in order to take pressure off of Willis McGahee, and will have to prove he can withstand an NFL pounding. Gooden and Zbikowski are not immediate defensive starters, but will contribute on special teams and get a chance to learn from the best. Cousins and Hale offer much-needed o-line depth. In all, the team drafted five skill players in an effort to create some competition for the flagging offense, and also added ex-Raiders first-round corner Fabian Washington via a trade, but the pass rush went begging.
