Everyone piles on Gary for not getting guys. Stoglin is showing this year why G-Will has been recruiting this guy for years. He will fit well into the MD offense and is showing everyone else (including his home Arizona) why they shouldn't be the last guy on the bus.

As for Ross, I hope cooler heads prevail and he recognizes Gary believed in him long before Tobacco Road, Kentucky or Kansas. Terrence, pick back up that letter of intent and MD is a championship contender in '11

Someone from Maryland did a good job in recruiting Stoglin, but I don't think that it was Gary. I remember reading a report that Stoglin did not meet Gary until after he committed to the Terps.

To Whom it May Concern-

Ehsan recruited Stoglin, and he only talked to Gary 1 time before he committed and that was to make the offer to him.
Gary DOES NOT RECRUIT ANYWHERE NEAR WHERE HE DID back in the 1990
s. Gary doesn't leave the state to recruit, unless he feels he is really close on a blue chipper. And that is very rare.
If they don't land a Blue Chipper to complement that class, we will be in the same boat. Everyone else is still recruiting. WE're LOSING top recruits.

It doesn't seem that GWilliams recriuts very many from the state of Md either.

2009-10 Kentucky Wildcats - Men's Basketball
NO NAME POS HT WT CLASS HOMETOWN
1 Darius Miller G 6-7 223 Sophomore Maysville, KY 4*
3 Darnell Dodson G 6-7 215 Sophomore Greenbelt, MD 3*
4 Jon Hood G 6-6 195 Freshman Madisonville, KY 4*
5 Ramon Harris G-F 6-7 218 Senior Anchorage, AK NS
11 John Wall G 6-4 195 Freshman Raleigh, NC 5*
12 Mark Krebs G 6-5 207 Senior Newport, KY NS
15 DeMarcus Cousins F 6-11 260 Freshman Mobile, AL 5*
21 Perry Stevenson F 6-9 207 Senior Lafayette, LA 4*
24 Eric Bledsoe G 6-1 190 Freshman Birmingham, AL 4*
33 Daniel Orton F 6-10 255 Freshman Oklahoma City, OK 5*
34 DeAndre Liggins G 6-6 202 Sophomore Chicago, IL 4*
54 Patrick Patterson F 6-9 235 Junior Huntington, WV 5*
55 Josh Harrellson F 6-10 265 Junior St. Charles, MO 3*

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All Recruits Class: Position: All PG SG SF PF C Top

Pos Nat'l
Rank Nat'l
Rating Name
School, Hometown Video HT/ WT/ PPG Interest
Level Offer? Schools of Interest
PG 1 Brandon Knight
(Pine Crest School)
Fort Lauderdale, FL 6-3/175 High Yes Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Miami (Fl)
PG 3 Josh Selby
(Lake Clifton-Eastern HS)
Baltimore, MD 6-2/180 Med Yes Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Syracuse, Tennessee, Baylor
PF 3 C.J. Leslie
(Word Of God Christian Academy)
Raleigh, NC 6-8/185 High Yes Kentucky, North Carolina State, Oregon, Florida, Tennessee, Maryland
SF 4 Justin Coleman
(Huntington Prep)
Huntington, WV 6-4/185 Med No Louisville, Arkansas, Kentucky
PF 6 Terrence Jones
(Jefferson HS)
Portland, OR 6-7/210 Med Yes Kentucky, Oklahoma, Oregon, UCLA, Washington, Arizona, Kansas
SG 3 Doron Lamb
(Oak Hill Academy)
Mouth Of Wilson, VA 6-4/175 High Yes Kansas, Kentucky, Arizona, Connecticut, Oklahoma, Pittsburgh, Saint John's (NY)
SF 11 Stacey Poole
(Andrew Jackson HS)
Jacksonville, FL 6-5/180 Verbal Yes Committed to Kentucky
SG 21 Terrance Ross
(Montrose Christian School)
Rockville, MD 6-5/185 Med Yes Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland
PF JC Ricardo Ratliffe
(Central Florida)
Ocala, FL 6-9/220 Med No Alabama, Arkansas, Clemson, Missouri, Connecticut, Kentucky, Louisville
PF 42 Jon Horford
(Grand Ledge HS)
Grand Ledge, MI 6-8/200 Med No Alabama, Michigan, Providence, Kentucky, Minnesota, Florida, Michigan State
PF NR Elijah Pittman
(Holmes HS)
Covington, KY -/- Med No Cincinnati, Georgetown, Kentucky, Miami (Oh), Morehead State, Ohio, St. Bonaventure, Tennessee, West Virginia, Xavier
PF NR Brandon Mobley
(Windsor Forest HS)
Savannah, GA 6-9/200 Med No Cincinnati, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Memphis, Miami (Fl), Mississippi, Oregon State, South Carolina, Xavier
SG NR Geron Johnson
(Dunbar HS)
Dayton, OH 6-3/- Med No Auburn, Cleveland State, Cornell, Dayton, Duquesne, Kentucky, Miami (Oh), Minnesota, Penn State, Wright State
PF NR DeAndre Daniels
(William Howard Taft HS)
Woodland Hills, CA 6-7/183 Med No Kentucky, Memphis, Ohio State, Rhode Island, Texas, UNLV, USC, Wake Forest, Washington
PF NR Gorgui Dieng
(Huntington Prep)
Huntington, WV 6-10/205 Med No Kentucky, Louisville, Marshall, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
C NR Moses Abraham
(Progressive Christian Academy)
Temple Hills, MD 6-9/235 Med No Connecticut, Georgetown, Kentucky, LSU, Maryland, Miami (Fl), Rutgers, Virginia Commonwealth

I've always wondered why 5* recruits are drawn in by the same con artists every time. John Calipari left U Mass in disgrace after the school was stripped of its final 4 appearance and put on probation . Then Calipari did the exact same thing at Memphis and they lost their final four appearance as well. Bobby Knight attempted to bring this to light on a national stage. He argued that it is only a matter of time before the same thing happens at Kentucky, and that he should be barred from coaching in the NCAA all together.

So, I was just currious if Ross, Jones, and Leslie would be effectively commiting basketball career suiside by signing a LOI to play for Calipari.

First, lets make one thing painfully clear. John Calipari has never been to the Final Four. The ONLY TWO TRIPS WERE STRIPPED DUE TO NCAA VIOLATIONS. So what ever he's telling his recruits is probably a far cry from reality.

It is true the Wildcats are winning huge now. The talent that Calipari brought in last year after forcing some sholarship players to leave was astonishing. The problem for recruits is that it is nice to play for a winner, but on a team like Kentucky or Kansas will they actually ever play. Worse, will they be treated like fodder if one of the other 5* recruits turns out to be better. Transfering away from a big time program effectively ends any chance at being in the NBA lottery, but so is sitting on the bench for 4 years if Calipari doesn't ask you to leave early so he can get another scholarship.

So, lets look at C.J. Leslie, a wonderful kid with good family values, (the very antithesis of Calipari) and Terrence Jones. C.J. is a 5* power forward, but so is Terrence Jones. So, it is very likely that one of the two will ride the pine even within their own class. However, that is what every fan wants his coach to get every year.

Now lets look at the rest of the team. There are 3 5* forwards on the team, Daniel Orton, Demarcus Cousins, and Patrick Patterson. There is also a 4* and a 3* forward on the team. Seriously, unless folks start going pro, neither of the two will be starters for probably two to three years. However, that STILL does not take into consideration the next class, 2011. We all know too well that Calipari is not loyal to his players. Calipari is ALREADY recruiting 2 more 5* power forward for the class of 2011. He is a great recruiter and sure gets the players in, but where does that leave Leslie and Jones, riding the pine, or being asked to leave? Neither outcome would be good, and both would likely end any hope of an NBA Lottery appearance. The reality is transfers are a fact of life on any team. It doesn't necessarily imply "pond scum" in and of its self. However, if you are a 5* recruit it will likely end your NBA Lottery dreams right there. Look at all the McD AA that left Duke only to find obscurity elsewhere.

Now we haven't even touched on the obvious NCAA rules violation "branch" that is probably assigned to Calipari where ever he goes.

How Long.

Yeh, we all know its coming. The recidivism rate for Calipari is 100% so far.

If it happens when Leslie or Jones are there, good luck getting to the NBA.

Its the same story for Terrense Ross. Doron Lamb is much more highly rated and in the same recruiting class. So, if Doron Lamb says yes, Terrence Ross is effectively signing up to be a bench player. Just kiss that NBA lottery dream good bye.

Now Maryland might not be the best choice for those guys. Also, iIf the Turtles were to meet the "Cats today the result might not be so good for Maryland. However, Gary has a RING, been to the final four twice, is loyal to his players to a fault, and will tell you like it is. You can't get better unless you know what to improve.

In 1994 Gary met Calipari in the NCAA Tournament. UMASS was highly favored and got an early 10 pt lead. UMASS had Marcus Camby. The Turtles had Booth, Simpkins, and Hipp. Maryland 95 UMASS 87

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGEMV9Hpqwo

Of course Gary met Calipari when Calipari was at Memphis and lost. But remember the NCAA stripped the Final four appearance made by those players. So, I don't really count it because the team and Calipari cheated.

Calipari = wannabe (at least for little longer)

Gary = The Real Deal

Calipari = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6-UYkSuNQ4&feature=related

Gary = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mevxenJ6Mtc&feature=related

They probably all go to Kentucky, Kansas, or Duke.

Hey PTerp the bad thing about Calipari is that no matter what has happened to him the kids in those situations are already off to the pros before anything really happened to the coach and the school and I think that people like Calipari use that to his advantage in recruiting. That no matter what I can get you in the pros. It's funny because I hear all the knocks on Gary about he can't recruit this and he can't recruit that, but after 21 years he has never had a number one recruiting class, and teams who go that long never will. The question is can he win with the recruits he has. Coach K, Roy Williams, and others Recruit top kids every year to put their teams in postion to win another national championship every year and we should as well. The problem is you have to build a quality product that someone wants to buy (like a winning program) before you can sell it to a recruit.

^ Your pathetic attempts to derail Coach Cal and UK, are going nowhere. Kids belive in him, deal with it and your looser program.

I don't know personally anything about Gary or his recruitment efforts. Some managers are hands off and let their employees do the work. My point is about blue chippers: Syracuse was not ranked pre-season and then this transfer, Johnson shows up. Pitt wasn't ranked either. So you never know what will happen. Right now I think the onus is on Gary to get the chemistry going and I think he will bring this team to where it needs to be. He's dedicated past the point of no return. Given that they can go 6-10 or 10-6. It all depends on balance and determination. I know they have the latter. Hey look at UConn. A perennial which isn't even ranked now.

Ganjah:

Assuming you're even a graduate, and by your entry it appears so, of that fine institution of higher learning--at last glance, uk was nationally ranked somewhere in the 120's for colleges--the irony of including Calipari in the same sentence as the improperly used word "looser" is simply priceless. To understand what I have just said, you're going to have to ask a graduate from a real college to explain it to you.

LOL at "pathetic attempts", as if it isn't common knowledge that Calipari is dirty. His legacy is already more tainted than Mark McGwire's could ever be for steroid use. Also LOL at "kids belive in him" and Maryland being a "looser program". Is the "ganjah" getting to your head there champ?

I think Terrell Stoglin is going to be a steal for Maryland. I'm looking forward to him being a Terp. There's no way this kid is a 3-star.