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November 30, 2009

The Friedgen and Yow talks continue

Talks continue today between coach Ralph Friedgen and athletic director Debbie Yow over his future.

We'll provide updates when we get them, but it may be awhile..

I wouldn't read anything into the length of the discussions. I think this was always intended to be a lengthy review. The discussions began Sunday.

Posted by Jeff Barker at 7:47 AM | | Comments (15)
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Shame on you Debbie if you can't take the heat down there then leave the job.You must fire ralph the same way that va fired al groh, they owed him 4,23 million and they are willing to take the hit. Ralph has to get fired there isn't any other way around it.Make the call that you get paid to make or step down .

Hard to know what to root for. I sure wish Yow hadn't named a coach-in-waiting and guaranteed him a big payoff if he wasn't named head coach.

On one hand, if you keep Friedgen, you're keeping a 2 and 10 coach. If you let him go, it's going to cost somebody a lot of money. (O'Malley won't let it cost taxpayers. Not directly, anyway.) And even then, you're pretty much forced to hire a coach from his staff. I mean, an offensive coordinator from a 2 and 10 team isn't exactly hot property.

You'd like to be able to heave Friedgen overboard and start fresh, wouldn't you?

People quickly forget the pre-Ralph days where 4 wins was a GOOD MD season. The reality is MD is the 10th best job in the ACC (only Duke and Wake are worse). Fire Ralph and welcome back the Vanderlinden, Duffner and Krivak era. While this season wasn't great - it wasn't as bad as getting spanked at home to mediocre teams - as often happened in those eras.

I vote to keep Ralph. There were some bad coaching decisions to go along with the fumbles and the interceptions and the missed tackles. But too often players seem to be out of postition.

Ralph needs to make some changes though. Not impressed at all with the defensive coordinator and whoever coaches the lines.

Also, Ralph needs to stop staying with his favorites so long. Chris Turner is not the type of quarterback to lead a college team whose conference goal is a BCS berth. He has a weak arm, can't lead recievers, is inaccurate in general, and has his feet nailed to the ground.

Jamarr Robinson, whether he starts next year or not, can run and throw. His style of play will allow expanded offensive play. And guess what, the other team can't score if you got the ball.

In retrospect, Terps were only out of two games, and should've beat Fl State, Virginia, M. Tennessee, Duke, N.C. State, if you take away the mistakes. And then you got a team going to a bowl.

And while were at it, the Atheletic Department needs to change their ticket policy for season ticket holders. I can't afford to buy the seat fee for better tickets. But Fl. State fans and Va. Tech fans can walk up and buy game day tickets for seats that are better than season ticket holders have. Need to fix that (D. Yow you reading this?).

Hey folks...why don't you start at the top? Yow should be first out of the door. Her "spread the wealth" philosophy would be great in a Utopian world...but in reality, it's the $$$ sports that fuel the whole program. Look at recruiting budgets across the conference and the country. Yow knee-caps football and men's basketball and then she has the nerve to put in her two cents of what the coaches should do? Time to move her out.

I am amazed how soon people seem to forget and all of a sudden it's not Ralph's fault it's all because of Franklin. Now all of a sudden Ralph wants to change his offense to an option type, says that it wasn't Chris' kind of game so maybe we shoud have changed QB's in favor of one that could run a option, was Ralph that blind that he couldn't make that decision? forgive me but didn't we have other QB's on the bench? Anything to save his a$$ from kicking players under the bus to kicking coaches under the bus but it was never his fault always someone else's.

I've been around this program since 1970 and through some pretty lean times, I have seen some pretty stupid decisions made by the athletic department and I think I am about to see another. It didn't take UVA but 24 hours to fire an alum, coaching conditions and monitary conditions nearly the same as UofM. Keep Ralph and you are just putting off what should have been done now and another year is wasted. I am so used to watching the UofM make bad decisions that I guess I'm ready for this one. There goes the seson ticket sales and the Sky boxes. How many times do you shoot yourself in the foot before it hurts?

I am very confused people, i always thought a coach that was a legend at there schools deserved the loyalty and the chance to go out when they want. We already know that joe paterno, and bobby bowden fit into that classification, but i will give you two more examples on a much lesser level of play. For those fans that know what Doug Duvall has done for wild lake high school in football and what bernie walters has done for arundal in baseball then you might know where i am coming from Those 4 examples are from coaches that have won national championships and put out winners on a yearly basis for decades. What bothers me is how has ralph deserved and gotten that kind of loyalty with his resume. He is nothing but a average coach that has let his school drop down to levels that are completely un satisfatory and yet people act like he is some legend or something. 10 years on the job people and the program is now in shambles. He needs to get fired bad economy and all , we need to get a young coach with new energy to bring this school back to where it belongs. I will admit that i got on Gary Williams for his lack of recruiting but you can't copmpare ralph with gary. Gary has won a national championship and finished in the final 4 twice. Ralph has done nothing and please get of the soap opera about where this program was before him. It's gotten real stale. Fire Ralph now and do your job debbie yow or you should resign yourse;f if you can't take the heat.

terp4life:

You are 100% wrong. Four wins was never acceptable at any point in MD football history. I attended school there during, arguably, four of the worst sports years in Terps history and even those teams would NEVER lose to a No. Illinois or a Middle Tennessee St. In fact, those teams were rarely on the schedule.

Granted there were fewer ACC teams back then, the football schedule always included WVU, Penn St, Pitt, Syracuse (when they were actually good), etc...

Ralph Friedgen may be the only coach in NCAA history that intentionally schedules patsies in order to pad the schedule...and then loses to them!

Not only did Friedgen's best years happen with another coaches recruits, he had to dig himself out of a hole after the first games of seasons 2 and 3 (See Notre Dame and Northern Illinois).

His teams are never prepared for early season games, and they certainly are never prepared for prime-time games.

True there are few good coaches who are currently unemloyed, but a change is absolutely needed.

Being an ex terp who was recruited by The Fridge 37 years ago when he was a Grad assistant.
Roy Lester was the head Coach and was 2-9 and when I left as a grad assistant a year after I was cut from the Giants. I left that 5th year MD was 9-2 and Gator bowl winner. I also have 12 season tickets that I couldn't give away for the BC game. So with along with $4.50 that above resume will get you a free latte at Starbucks but I feel I know a little about what it takes to win at MD. Besides California, (to play a a game on the West Coast 10pm is nuts, Physically midnight halftime!The argeument they came here and that noon game was 9 am for them,not the same as playing an early game. Kids practice in the AM no one practice sat Midnight, hope they, AD,learned a lesson)there were 5 games that could have gone either way and now we are looking at a young 7 and 5 team and a bowl game.

I say stay with the big man!

He knows how to win..

2-10 is very bad and this is what we have.

My take is that the coach's should go. However, Yow is the Athletic Director and she has not been a friend of the Men's Basketball or Football programs. In both sports it's always next year. Since Bobby Ross the football program has had some very lean years. Maryland needs football and Basketball back onto the map.

Norman

There is absolutely no question that Fridge knows how to win - he has an impeccable record as an assistant coach and as an offense coordinator at the college and pro levels.

Bottom line though is that after ten years he has completely failed as a head coach.

The only thing this program really has to show off after the past several years are a dozen empty, unsold luxury suites that do nothing other than shade me from the sun during the September home games.

I didn't say 4 wins were acceptable - those were typical years during Krivak, Duffner and Vanderlinden. The truth is the MD job sucks - Yow as AD (your boss), boosters who are basketball oriented, crappy stadium, outdated facilities, etc.

Here is the question - if you fire Ralph - will get a better coach? I'm 95% sure the answer is NO.

What about Mike Tice? I'd sure like to see him get a look if RF is dismissed.

terp4life: You seem to suggest that it's not possible to win at Maryland; I disagree. While it's true that Krivak and Duffner were not given the support required, that wasn't the case prior to Len Bias, and it's not the case today. Jerry Claiborne won consistently in the '70s, and Bobby Ross won in the '80s. Ross wanted an investment in facilities to keep the momentum, but the University had to back off its focus on athletics in the wake of the Bias situation, which created a hole that it took more than 10 years to dig out of. But Maryland has invested in its stadium and other football facilities in the past 10 years, and there's no reason a coach can't win there today. I'm not necessarily talking about national championships, but a man who can both recruit and coach can get this program into the Top 20 on a regular basis. That was Ralph's goal, after all.

Dear terp4life,this is the problem with you people.Always looking for excuses for a failed coach.Now you're saying what a terrible job the MD.gig is,our facilities suck.Nobody of any stature would want to coach here.Is that the line you guys are now taking?Thats BS.Are our facilities worse than say Cinn,Boise,TCU or closer to home maybe Navy or Wake? Find a new excuse to keep RF pal.P.S. well said Brad.In the ninties when we were only winning 4-6 games a year our level of competition was much higher than now.Lets clean house and move on.

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About Jeff Barker
Tracking the TerpsJeff Barker has been a Baltimore Sun sports writer since 2004, handling stories and projects including Terrapins basketball, the NFL, sports economics, congressional steroids hearings and youth coaches who run afoul of the law. Before that, he covered news -- including the 2002 Beltway sniper attacks -- and politics for The Baltimore Sun, the Washington bureau of The Arizona Republic and The Associated Press.

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