Notes on Vasquez and the Terps
A gritty win today by Maryland in an inartistic game, to say the least.
A sidelight was Greivis Vasquez hearing a smattering of boos in a game in which he shot poorly but made some key passes and finished with 16 points and six assists.
Vasquez yelled a few times in the direction of the student section and told them -- in his own way -- to shut up. I saw him do this after Maryland had taken the lead and the crowd was cheering. The boos were over, but it was as if Vasquez was saying that the fans are of the fair-weather variety.
“I don’t know if they were booing me or booing the other team. It doesn’t bother me. My mind is strong,” Vasquez said. “We’re 12-3. We were 9-5 last year about this time. What the hell are they thinking?
"If they don’t want to believe in us, get the hell out. We don’t need them here. We need the people who are going to support us and be with us,” Vasquez said. “I want to say thank you to the people who were supporting us and believing in us. If you don’t want to support us, get out.”






Comments
Hard to disagree with Greivis. It's not as if they weren't giving good effort today. Sometimes shots don't fall. And for a guard oriented team, those nights won't usually end up with a win. The Terps really dodged a bullet for a game they were supposed to win.
Posted by: UMDTerrapins | January 10, 2009 5:07 PM
All the Maryland haters can go back in their cacoon now. We shot only 31%, only 19% from 3-point land, Grieivis was 0-6 from 3 point range, Neal was only 1-7 from 3, we got outrebounded 45-32. . .and Gary Williams and the boys STILL found a way to win the game
Look at my "Quick Hoops Thought" blog from 2 days ago. I said the Terps would beat GT by 9 today. We ended up winning by 7.
So, give me (and the Terps) some props. . . :-)
--Highrock--
Posted by: Highrock | January 10, 2009 5:44 PM
A clear reason of why Vasquez is the most hated player in the ACC... both home and away.
Posted by: Ravtown | January 10, 2009 6:10 PM
Most hated player at home? What is this, Philly? I don't disagree with Vasquez at all. If you're booing your own team, what's left?
Save the boos for the end of the game if they lose. Since they won, the boos are in appropriate.
Posted by: Danno | January 10, 2009 6:49 PM
I strongly disliked Greifous last two years but without the ball he is our best player and this was one of the grittest wins I have seen in a long time from the Terps. Look they ain't good so we all need to cheer them on. Their effort is a reflection of Gary never saying die..I am starting to be converted that if this team or any maryland team plays like this team did today every day ..they represent the university at its best win or lose
Converted for now
Posted by: John K Burch Jr | January 10, 2009 6:54 PM
Ravtown:
You are a great example of what is wrong with the Maryland fanbase. Empty home games, heckling your best player who tries his best every game to the point where he feels the need to explode like that. Seriously who needs fans like that.
Granted Vasquez sometimes does make poor decisions with his shot selection but it is only when NO ONE ELSE is making any plays (No one shot well in the first half today, not even Hayes).
Why aren't other fans in comcast telling these idiots to shut the hell up? I'm with Vasquez 100%, if you're just going to go boo and heckle then stay home. A supposed "fan" heckling his own team is worst than an empty seat.
Posted by: 04Terp | January 10, 2009 7:44 PM
Ravtown:
You are a great example of what is wrong with the Maryland fanbase. Empty home games, heckling your best player who tries his best every game to the point where he feels the need to explode like that. Seriously who needs fans like that.
Granted Vasquez sometimes does make poor decisions with his shot selection but it is only when NO ONE ELSE is making any plays (No one shot well in the first half today, not even Hayes).
Why aren't other fans in comcast telling these idiots to shut the hell up? I'm with Vasquez 100%, if you're just going to go boo and heckle then stay home. A supposed "fan" heckling his own team is worse than an empty seat.
Posted by: 04Terp | January 10, 2009 7:45 PM
GV should put blinders and ear muffs on and concentrate his efforts on the court. I have seen enough of this to implore Gary to put an end to his "its all about me" show.
Posted by: ArdmoreAri | January 10, 2009 7:53 PM
UMD can beat any team in the county if they play up to their God given abilities and hustle 24/7, dominate the PG, SG (Mosley should get 25 minutes per game), SF positions, rebound as a team, share the ball, run the O and hustle. Mich. St. is ranked 8th right now....
Posted by: Anonymous | January 10, 2009 8:12 PM
Are you kidding me? Vasquez is a moron who is too hot and cold. What kind of player cusses out his own fans at the foul line? He should be benched by Gary Williams (or Debbie Yow if Gary doesn't have the balls). He is way too emotional out there and it makes him and his team worse than they should be.
Posted by: Tbird | January 10, 2009 8:18 PM
Maybe the boo's came, because we thought they would be better prepared and ready to go, against georgia tech... since apparently they over looked morgan state and ahead to the ACC opener.
Im sure they watch the Ravens... be ready to play every game... but at least Grevis is happy about being 12-3 with one win against a ranked team that was short handed... but.. go terps!
Posted by: Aaron | January 10, 2009 8:29 PM
Terps fans are a very, very fickle and unappreciative bunch.
Posted by: Torte Verde Terp | January 10, 2009 8:37 PM
Vasquez is right on target with his remarks, fair weather fans are band wagon jumpers in disguise. You want a National Champion contender, jump over to North Carolina, we don't need you. A true fan is with its team and players in thick or thin and obviously we have some weeding out of some fans.
Go Terps, either NCAA tourney or NIT I'm one fan who will be rooting hard!
Posted by: Ken Lowe | January 10, 2009 8:56 PM
Vasquez is right on target with his remarks, fair weather fans are band wagon jumpers in disguise. You want a National Champion contender, jump over to North Carolina, we don't need you. A true fan is with its team and players in thick or thin and obviously we have some weeding out of some fans.
Go Terps, either NCAA tourney or NIT I'm one fan who will be rooting hard!
Posted by: Ken Lowe | January 10, 2009 8:56 PM
Greivis makes some bad plays and his shot was way off today, but he always plays hard. There is NO excuse to boo a college kid playing for his school, especially when he has carried our team for two years like Greivis has.
Posted by: zach | January 10, 2009 9:05 PM
It's not really that people are booing UMd... If they're like me, they're just sick of watching GV's (continued) immaturity jeopardize his team's success. Mugging for the crowd ALL THE TIME, turning his back on his coaches and teammates in the huddle during timeouts, driving the lane out of control with 25 seconds on the shot clock with a 1-point lead (or jacking up an off balance 3 with time on the shot clock)...
I'd rather see Bowie run the point and put Hayes at the 2 (or vice-versa), and sub in Mosley for either spot.
I realize GV is an extraordinary talent. There is NO question about that. The problem is his poor attitude and poor decision making too often greatly undermines his talent (Think Ryan Leaf).
I hope the guy goes pro after this year because I just believe UMd will be much better off built around goes like Sean Mosley; Team players who do whatever is asked of them. Maybe GV can land a spot opposite John Gilchrist (is he still playing?).
Very ironic that an article was written last week in which Gary said he likes how this years' team "trusts each other". As I read it, I was convinced it was Gary's way of using the media to further spread his message to his team... in fact, it was THAT night that Greivis completely ignored his teammates in the final 5 minutes against Morgan State. Taking bad shot after bad shot while his teammates stood shaking their heads.
Someone at UMd... PLEASE reign Greivis in before he ruins ANOTHER season for the Terps..
Posted by: Can't Watch Greivis | January 10, 2009 9:07 PM
I am sorry, fans, have not earned the right to boo college kids for what they do on the field/floor. It's not easy be a student athlete. The student athlete has to put more time into practice and games than other students and 99% of the other 'fans'.
The home field/floor advantage should be worth something.
GV gives to his all and loves school. How some folks can boo him is beyond belief.
It is okay to boo kids that make bad decisions off the field, like not being loyal or taking a 'gift' they should not.
I once told somebody I knew my whole life how did they believe they were going to get away with something that smarter people then him got caught.
We all make mistakes, but booing a kid for his field/floor performance is bush, just as it is to cheer when a kid gets hurts.
Posted by: JRon | January 10, 2009 9:22 PM
I don't usually agree with everything Vazquez does, but in this case he's absolutely right. I've been to almost every terp home game this season and this is the first time that you could actually here the home crowd booing him. The reason is because some idiots with season tickets only show up to the ACC games and don't pay attention to the previous games to know how many times Vazquez has bailed the team out. I'm sick of the so called terps fans who only show up some times and when things go bad they act like morons. It's sad watching the stands being only half full ten minutes into the game. If you don't want to use the tickets, give them to a true fan. It's not the students who are the problem.
Posted by: Greg | January 10, 2009 9:41 PM
Our fan base has turned to crap. Half of the season ticket holders in the good seats dont show. It seems the only two games on the schedule worth their time & attention "and matter" anymore are Dook and UNC.
And now this. These are Maryland basketball fans and supporters?
I know there are high expectations, frustration with, and concerns about the basketball program but the unrealistic expectations of some are beyond belief. The only thing we can expect once the season starts is for our team to give 100% and do the best they can.
For all of GVs faults, he gives us 100% every minute he is on the court. He is an emotional, tremendously talented player who wants to win and LOVES the U of M. He is our best player and sometimes tries to do too much. Part of the learning process. I love his game and his passion. Those who don't - IMHO - don't get it.
While I wish he could ignore the ignorant "fan/fans" who expect perfection and think its appropriate to boo and make negative comments, I agree with GV and support him completely. I'd rather sit next to an empty seat than some jack@ss - who probably never played - constantly criticize and boo at any little mistake or missed shot. I too, wish they'd stay home. Our student-athletes dont need 'fans' like that.
These kids arent professionals. I wonder if the boo-ers treat their own children with the same disrespect and scorn when they arent living up to their expectations 24/7/365.
GV and the team hung in there and fought back on a day when nothing was falling and figured out a way to win. It would have been easy to quit but the nature of this team despite being young and undersized is to play hard - even if the results arent what some idiots expect. Congrats to our team. Keep fighting and believing in yourselves - even if some in the stands dont. I'm proud of your effort.
Shooting for all players runs hot and cold, and for the last few games GV and others have had good looks and just havent been hitting the shots. Sometimes they force a shot or make a bad decision but isnt that part of the game at any level? Despite poor shooting - we only had 13 TOs which is good. Its a game, they're kids, and they're still learning. Maybe if the few "fans" who boo so easily spent that energy being patient and encouraging the team when they need it the most it would help rather than being devisive.
It's disappointing that a supposed 'fan/fans" act this way at our home game. It bothers me that the AD/school/Comcast security doesnt have the b*lls do anything about it. I guess they'll wait until another fan gets fed up with the antics and theres a physical altercation in the stands.
With students on break, and seeing so many 'others' in these seats (supposedly sections 113/114) I'm not sure if the heckler/hecklers were students or adults. I'm not sure of the exact nature of what originated in the stands or how ugly it got, but if its something that affects any players on the court or disprupts other fans enjoyment of the game then they should be shown the door. If its students, I'm at a loss and would encourage the University to revoke their ticket privlidges. If its an adult - ban them from Comcast.
Posted by: Terps06 | January 10, 2009 10:01 PM
Greivis is full of it. I was sitting on press row and heard very few boos--and those few may or may not have been directed at him. The Terps' shooting was absolutely horrible and the team's continued inability to run any kind of sensical offense is likely what got the fan's dander up. Gary's teams run streetball, helter-skelter halfcourt sets that have very little chance of being effective. Fans have every right to express frustration when the team just isn't playing well. And given that their was no effort being made to get good shots in the 1st half (as opposed to what someone wrote above) is enough to bring out the boobirds. Greivis needs to shut up and play. After the game, he was talking about how the keys to the game were that he got guys the ball in position to shoot threes. He's too full of himself, plain and simple.
Posted by: Biff Tubesock | January 10, 2009 10:03 PM
IF ALL THE TERPS PLAYED AS HARD AS GREVIS , NO ONE COULD COMPLAIN.... WIN OR LOSE
Posted by: WAYNE | January 10, 2009 10:07 PM
There are teams that lose every game they play, yet their fans find a reason to cheer. I remember when Maryland fans were respected as some of the most knowledgeable in the ACC. Somewhere along the line that changed. A few years back I went to a Duke game and had to endure the F-bomb thrown repeatly at JJ Redick, a great ACC player. These know-nothing losers have no clue about their own team. So, they boo their best player (whom the Terps cannnot win without). The Terps can, however, do just fine without such fans.
Posted by: classof73 | January 10, 2009 10:09 PM
Having actually attended the University of Maryland w mr Vasquez I can only say that he deserves every boo he gets. When you stand up on a bus in CP and tell every girl on the bus that your the man they should be with because your going to make millions as a bball star...its hard for me to be sympathetic to you. Yes, I have heard him say that. If he played like Juan with heart and no mouth I might care. But dont give me that crap that he is intense and thats how he plays well. He takes selfish shots and makes the game about him. Lenny Bias never would have done such a thing. Greivis your game is weak. My hero is Dave Neal haha, but seriously play selfless and tone your act down and you may not draw so much attention to yourself. by the way the millions you will be raking in are probably in greek currency. There is no place for you in the NBA.
Posted by: Greivis Shmavis | January 10, 2009 10:31 PM
I'm definitely against ever booing your own team, but on the flip side you can't stick your tongue out and shaking your head as you backpedal on defense since you just made a shot on Morgan State. Especially since it's now a Morgan State team that can say they played better than you. Apparently no one in the locker room is telling him to focus on finishing the game rather than playing to the crowd so some fans thought they'd help everyone out.
I like his fire and his passion, but he's talking to a fan base that had to sit and watch John Gilchrist and others let attitude override results. The fans booing were saying exactly what I read from Gary's mouth in one of the late timeouts Thursday night, "get your head out of your a--." Does he tell Gary to quit every practice he gets yelled at? Every game? Not to mention everyone in that arena is contributing to his free tuition, free apartment, free food and exposure for his NBA career.
Fans will support a team that fights. It's Marland basketball, it's what we love. For someone manning the point over the worst period in modern team history, he should be vowing to win the fans back as opposed to ushering out those that are left.
Posted by: James C | January 10, 2009 11:07 PM
GV shoots well on the move and at the foul line. He is a poor 3 shooter. The few(almost none) boos came when he continued to ballhog in order to throw up 3's. Trouble is, Bowie,LM,Tucker,andSM pass up open 3's when GV gives them great looks. If Hayes is cold, noone takes a 3. Terps took the ball to the basket in the second half and Hayes hit. Don't forget how Gary's teams never quit and GV fits that mold. GV sounded like Gary and shoots 3's about as well as Gary used to shoot everything. Think about it-some really good shooters got very frustrated(SF,MJ,etc)playing guard with GW in charge. These terps will fight until this season ends and GV's spirit and GW's grit should be enough to silence any more booing. The attitude of this year's team is exceptional.
Posted by: doc | January 10, 2009 11:37 PM
I don't think fans were booing the team. I believe they were totally aimed at GV. No one disputes his high energy and his great foul shooting (the main way he scores). He acts very in a very immature, egotistical manner and his macho act does not go over with many fans. I'm surprised more people don't verbalize their distaste for it. The TV announcers certainly have reacted negatively to it. I believe the main reason for booing is his horrible shooting average essentially every game and his insistence that he takes most of the shots, no matter how ill-advised, when the game is on the line. I disagree with many posters: I think the team would be better off if he were benched when his "macho mania" starts to control his game.
Posted by: Diogenes | January 10, 2009 11:53 PM
i disagree slightly with some of classof73's comments. there's a huge difference between the redick chants and what happened to grevis today. mind you, the redick chant might not have been appropriate, but it was there simply to get under his skin. inappropriate, yes... but clearly fans simply hating on duke's best player... it was simply their way of telling jj that we do in fact hate him. do md fans heckle the bench players with that much intensity? no, because they aren't as good as jj was. as much as it was in poor taste, it was also a show of respect. they could have carried it out in a better manner, but it did nothing to undermine our team's confidence in themselves.
if grevis was indeed booed by the fans today, that's an entirely different thing, and i completely agree with his comments after the game. i initially thought that some tech fans had worked their way into the student section, and that's what he was reacting to. even worse than tech fans being in the student section though, are "fans" in the student section calling out a struggling player, who has done nothing but work hard for the terps.
especially from the student section, fans should always support a team that's working hard to win a game. despite results... if you want to boo the team for lack of effort, that's one thing... but let's be honest... in basketball, i don't care who you are... sometimes the shots don't fall... and if everyone's working hard, that's really when you need to be the most supportive...
Posted by: dennis | January 11, 2009 12:53 AM
Being a student-athlete myself, the booing is ridiculous. It happened at a bunch of the football games that i went to too. Do we think that it helps to motivate the players? yeah GV makes some mistakes, not the easiest one to love on the floor sometimes, but he is representing this program. Support the team. Why would anyone want to commit to play any sport at MD when even the fans do not support them. Players play harder when they are not playing just to avoid disappointing. I agree with the others. If you are not on board, then just stop going to games. Become a Wizards fan, lot to boo at those games.
Posted by: BCterp4christ | January 11, 2009 1:12 AM
As an alum I've always thought the Maryland fans have been terrible. They have been a bunch of front-runners as long as I can remember. Greivis is 100% right in what he said.
As for Biff Tubesock you obviously are hard of hearing because the crowd was clearly booing Vasquez on numerous occasions (mainly after his missed shots). It really frustrates me how terribly our so-called "fans" treat a great player. Anyone who doesn't appreciate Vasquez (on the court) is clueless about basketball. We lose this game (and by a rather large margin) without Vasquez. He's the only player other teams have to guard, and he's the only player we have who can create shots for himself or others.
As for going pro, I'm fairly sure he'll at least declare and go to the pre-draft camp in Orlando. I hope he comes back and think he probably will. For all the things he does well (and he does a lot of things very well) and needs to be a better shooter and get stronger to have a long pro career.
Posted by: A Real Fan With a Clue | January 11, 2009 1:29 AM
I have to say I am very disappointed with the minority of fans who booed. It didn't sound like it was coming from the student body to me but from the super expensive seats owned by corporations. Most of the die hard koolaid drinkers lost their seats to businesses who can write off the cost of the mandatory donations. These company bozos feel entitled to a piece of the team because they pay easily $20k a year to get the right to buy those seats. I know Grevis has some flaws that need to be reigned in. I believe the coach is doing that. Truth is shooters have to shoot through cold spells to get back on track. GV plays with more heart than anyone on the team. I wish he would learn the difference between wild and aggressive but he really has improved from last year to now. His turnovers are down dramatically. IMHO his improvement has a lot to do with GW moving him to the 2 spot. This kid loves THIS team. He loves Maryland. He LOVES this game. He is one of the few recruits I'm glad we actually got. He is giving his heart and soul to every game, to Maryland. I personally am willing to support him through his cold spells. Really, the cold shooting has alot more to do with the interior post players not playing their roles in the flex offense, than Eric or Grevis. The reality is that our Flex is not able to function if Milborne refuses to play the post, set his screens in the right points in the paint, etc. Our offense breaks down. The defense is able to cheat on the perimeter. We take alot of last second three's with double and tripple teams with no post players in sight for a pass for the lay up. Eventually, the real players get fustrated and try wild shots out of the offense. I exhaustively pointed this out to the haters in my section. AT least they didn't boo. When Landon was pulled for Dino or Kim we would go on a run. GT's defense had to play a person who actually was near the basket. Gee shocking. Eric got open, Dave got open. Grevis was probably subconsciously or consciously doubting himself because of the boos. Ok here's the gist. I know this year and the last few have been fustrating, and that Gary's refusal to recruit top talent has put him in this precarious position. However, there is no need to boo. If GW doesn't get this team back to the NCAAT, then things will take care of themselves. For now IMHO its better show these kids that we support them. Rant here all you want, but in the stands I hope the fans find the will to support this team. No, I don't hate Landon. He is being force to play out of his natural position and probably is having some trouble adjusting to the new roles. He clearly keeps falling back into small forward roles when he is the power forward now.
Posted by: Pterp | January 11, 2009 2:28 AM
I guess it is a little, a little, different when you are dealing with amatuer atheletes, however, I could not disagree more. There are no sports without the fans. The fans are the customer. The customer is always right. If anyone thinks they are not going to be criticized by their own fans and to tell them to get out, they are kidding themselves.
Pro-Players salaries are paid by the fans. College kids get a free education at what...30 grand a year? Yes, to be too critical is bad, but if a player makes bonehead plays, mouths off, showboats, and plain costs his team, he should get booed.
Not saying Vasquez was doing that. I personally can not wait for him to be gone. He is way too inconsistent. Maybe it is not his fault. You can not always shoot 12-16 from 3-point land. When shooting fails, the good teams go inside with the ball to the high percentage shot. The problem is, UM has no one what so ever inside. Dupree, Burney, and Goins are all busts.
Posted by: Ryan | January 11, 2009 3:17 AM
First, I'd like to address the guy that said Maryland fans don't go to games because we don't support the team. That's far from true. Right now, all of us students are on break. It's a pain in the ass for us to drive to College Park on a very backed up 95 for every game and then be expected to pay for parking when we get there. I live in Baltimore and unless I get a ride, I save myself the trip. I can follow the Terps by staying at home. And considering how many students from College Park are from New Jersey, I don't think many of them are coming down for games. As for season ticket holders, I don't blame them for not going to non-conference games. The atmosphere often sucks and many (including students) simply feel that we should win those games without a full crowd.
As for Vasquez, throughout his entire career I really haven't been a fan of him. Like someone said earlier, he's like John Gilchrist. You love him when he does something right (or ridiculously lucky) but too often he makes stupid mistakes because his emotions get to him and he's playing out of control. It doesn't surprise me when he has over five turnovers in a half. Vasquez isn't what I would call a quintessential Terp. He too often puts himself above the team. Just because you get the ball first when the play is being run doesn't mean it's you should be the one driving or immediately shooting. While he is the most talented on our team, he plays like he thinks he's OJ Mayo or Kevin Durant or Michael Beasley, which he is far from. Every fan, no matter how dedicated you are, can't deny that you don't shake your head when Vasquez pulls up for a 3 with 30 seconds left on the clock or when Vasquez dribbles into a quadruple team and forces a circus shot. I understand the effort he puts into playing (you don't make 35 free throws in a row by accident) but he really needs to work on the emotional aspect of it. One last point, I was at the Charlotte game and Vasquez was taunting Charlotte during the entire 2nd half. I don't understand why he thinks that is OK to show poor sportsmanship/class but he gets upset when the fans boo because the team plays like poo for a half. It's disappointing that Gary Williams handcuffs himself to allow a player to conduct himself that way as a representative of the flagship state university that has spent the decade trying to make itself a premier destination school. Either way, as a fan, you have the take the good and the bad with him. Instead of booing him, I just laugh cause I almost expect him to make a plethora of dumb plays but I also realize it's near impossible to win without him.
It's funny how people think being a fan means you blindly follow and support your team no matter what. Being a fan is like being part of a democracy. You shouldn't be labeled a traitor just because you disagree with the blind loyalists.
Posted by: Terp2012 | January 11, 2009 3:42 AM
As long as the effort is there it's wrong to boo your own team. Sometimes it's hard not to when the Terps make the same mistakes or go on one of their scoring droughts. Even though Grevis can be maddening when he forces things, he is at least trying to make it happen!
The Terps would be a better team if Vasquez didn't acknowlege the bums masquerading as fans. Reacting by cursing only fans the flames Grevis! If you want to shut them up play better! I graduated from Maryland years before Vasquez was born and reserve the right to boo although I save it for the other team. The fans will be here long after these players are gone.
GO TERPS!
Posted by: Flynn | January 11, 2009 5:18 AM
He was being a natural leader.I don't blame him.It should'nt become a habit as some fans are sooo spoiled these days.It's college ball,for pete's sake.Go ask this year's football team;I'm sure they've heard some boos before.What's next?booing the ladies team during a tough game?
Posted by: Dan R. | January 11, 2009 7:50 AM
Shame on the few Maryland fans who boo. In tructh, I've been a huge fan for over 25 years and this is not new.
Fans wonder why Gary Williams is having trouble recruiting vs. Duke or UNC.
We aren't making it any easier on him.
Posted by: Bking | January 11, 2009 8:49 AM
The definition of "booing" is:
In sports, booing by fans is quite common, at players after poor play or if the opposing team is being unsportsman like
A villainous character may also be booed to show a dislike of said character
Sounds like if their was some serious booing, it was directed correctly. For the person who stated fans dont have the right to boo student athletes, thats just ridiculous. They have it soo hard huh? Well maybe if the graduation rate at maryland improves, ill take it into more consideration.
Look, just because we are unhappy with a players attitude or performance, doesnt not mean we are fair weather fans or not supportive of the team. The very fact that people are taking the time to write on this blog, shows they do care.
Maybe we just see great potential in this team... and want them to do better and live up to that potential. Kinda like the football team.. that almost won the ACC
Posted by: Aaron | January 11, 2009 9:04 AM
i have to agree with the comments above about the similarities between John Gilchrist and Vasquez. They both are extremely talented basketball players who can't control their emotions on the court, and they hurt the team at critical moments of the game. Unfortunately I see Vasquez is going the same way as Gilchrist. I couldn't wait to see him leave UM even as I greatly admired his talent. Gary Williams should look in the mirror when it comes to letting his emotions control his behavior on the court. He sets a bad example that is hurting his best players. The last few years Gary forgot that he is a teacher as well as coach.
Posted by: Rayban | January 11, 2009 9:29 AM
The fans are not booing the effort, but tired of watching a Gary Williams team again shooting not for a natl championship, but merely to qualify for the big dance. I am a Terps fan, live in Atlanta. Tech is a very flawed team, likely to hold up the bottom of the ACC. Struggling at home against them is a very bad sign for Maryland-look for a 7th place finish at best. In the last several years, the biggest collapse of a program since its Nal Championship in memory
Posted by: mike | January 11, 2009 9:30 AM
ACC basketball players are pros for all intents and purposes. If the players can't handle getting booed THEY should get out. The Maryland fans should boo this team. They've had horrible losses over the past few years and no one in the organization, especially Gary, will acknowledge the total failure to capitalize on the two final fours. Win something Vasquez, then we'll listen to you.
Posted by: Bret | January 11, 2009 9:55 AM
Greivis is not right and fans have a right to be annoyed with him at times. He wastes possessions by either taking bad shots or turning the ball over. I have no problem with a bad shooting day if someone is taking good shots, but Greivis just throws up ill-advised shot after ill-advised shot. Scoring 16-20 points in a game doesn't necessarily you've played well, especially if you're 5-18 from the field.
He has had some very good games as a Terp when he's been careful with the ball, but he needs to understand that wasting possessions is not something this team can afford to do.
Posted by: Sam | January 11, 2009 10:37 AM
Vasquez is 100% on the mark. As a long time fan and alumnus, it is inconceivable to me why a Maryland fan would EVER boo a Terp player. The spoiled know-nothing brats should stay home instead of booing a guy who gives all he's got and clearly loves playing for Maryland. Save the booing for the other team.
Posted by: 77Terp | January 11, 2009 10:51 AM
oh poor Greivis....he wants to be the star, then deal with failure. People booing know basketball, and when the supposed star comes down on offense and shoots 1 pass into said offense, those booing have a reason. Forget about the fact that he's the best player, and he does play hard...problem is the kid doesn't play smart. Noone else on the team can make a play when Greivis pulls his black-hole act. Issue number 2 with Greivis is the preening, mugging and jackassery he performs during the course of the game. Finally, I was at the game early, watching warmups about 60 minutes before the game....everyone else is getting in their shots, while Greivis is sitting in the courtside seats throwing up shots while seated. Unfortunately Gary wasn't on the floor at the time to see where how his star was getting rady for the game. PErhaps its where GV should spend a bit more time during the course of the game.
Posted by: ryan | January 11, 2009 11:51 AM
Seems to me (mentioning vasquez and reddick) that what Maryland fans really hate are people that act like a-holes on the court.
If you are going to blow kisses to the crowd after you hit a three, or taunt the student section of a team you just beat (like Vasquez did in UNC last year), then we won't like you. And we really won't like it if you don't back it up.
If you are going to act on the court like you are the second coming of Kobe, then you better expect to get booed when you aren't
Someone above mentioned that Maryland fans aren't smart when UNC fans are. Well, UNC cheers for all points and all players, regardless of situation. How is that smart?
seems to me that a smart fan would recognize when their player is making stupid decisions and let them know about it. Nobody boos when you miss an open 3, they boo when you miss a three falling away from the basket against 3 defenders with 20 left on the shot clock.
Posted by: Utz, the Crab Chip | January 11, 2009 12:19 PM
How will he ever succeed in the pros if he can't handle heckling by his own fans. What happens in New York when the Knicks aren't playing well? How will he handle the media?
Posted by: Chris | January 11, 2009 12:36 PM
Basketball players used to be called "Cagers" for a reason. Maryland may want to add a cage around the court at Comcast.
Posted by: DarNEl | January 11, 2009 12:40 PM
Those fans just watched Maryland lose one to Morgan, just one year removed after similar losses against American, Ohio and VCU.
They deserve to boo, and Vasquez, as the team leader, should understand why.
Posted by: Jarrett | January 11, 2009 12:42 PM
The Terps busted their ass on defense the entire game and displayed the kind of defensive effort that Gary has had a hard time pulling out of recent teams. In no way did their effort deserve boos from their supposed fans. It wasn't all about Grevis. They were booing Dave Neal and others. Grevis was standing up for his team, not just himself. The fans (?) sucked and deserved to be booed by the team. Of course, school is out for another week or so, so it was a different ratio of students to fairweather fans.
Posted by: dacoitdan | January 11, 2009 1:01 PM
I love the fact that MD won that championship in 2002, but it's been somewhat of a curse. This is not UNC, Kentucky or Duke. It's more like Memphis or Florida-- high quality basketball programs-- but not expected to win a national championship every year. After that championship, it just seems like we are all expecting so much. We've actually wont a championship more recently than Duke, and you don't see them booing their own players. These are kids who don't even get paid to do what they are doing. What recruit would want to come here seeing fans boo their own team. We need to sit back, try to enjoy the season, and expect good, hard, competitive basketball. This team has not been lazy. They play hard. We should not expect to win a championship every year. We should just hope that we can get competitive again in the ACC and go from there. That being said, Greivis needs to learn from this and find a better way to express his concern over the fans' behavior.
Posted by: Rich | January 11, 2009 1:27 PM
I'm so sick of Maryland and Gary Williams. He runs a big time program who just won a National Championship a few years ago and can't even recruit one 5 star recruit. It's rediculous. I'm not saying he should out recruit NC or Duke but MD should be third in the ACC in recruiting. You lose to teams like Morgan St. when you don't have top talent. For years he hasn't been able to recruit in his own state. Not to even mention the Baltimore-Washington areas. Take a look at the talent from the state that ignored MD. Carmelo, Rudy Gay, Michael Beasley, Kevin Durant and others sitting right in his back yard. Gary isn't a elite coach anymore. Recruit real talent instead of two star recruits that nobody else wants. Like big mouth Vasquez.
Posted by: Devin | January 11, 2009 2:08 PM
This YOUNG man needs to grow up!!
If by some chance he finds his way into the NBA then he better get used to less than positive treatment. He is way out of line with his imature actions and words. Clearly he needs to remain in school as long as possible in hopes that he will learn SOMETHING!!!!!!
Posted by: randy | January 11, 2009 2:53 PM
Probably one of the most poorly played ACC games I can ever remember. Tech looked like a high school team--very surprising for a Hewitt coached unit. Md., as long as GW is the coach and their "leader" is a showboat who shouts obscenities to the crowd, will continue to underachieve. A coach with an ounce of decency would have yanked him...but this is the same guy who screamed "get the f*** away from me" as his team approached the bench during a timeout. A sorry state of affairs in College Park.
Posted by: Gunnar | January 11, 2009 7:11 PM
Normally I don't defend Vazquez's actions, especially his tendency to call out or show up his own teammates. However, I totally agree with his disgust with the fans at Comcast. To those fans, your act is stale. You are reactive instead of proactive. Other than the tired Hey You Suck chant you have Zero innovative chants. Most don't even know the words to the victory or fight song, the latter of which is rarely played. If you don't like this team get the hell out of the arena and let more supportive fans have your seats. For that matter, bring back Cole Field House and the electric atmosphere that accompanied that wonderful ole gym.
Posted by: Terpintime | January 11, 2009 8:55 PM
As Maryland fans...can we all please just cheer for our team and stop turning on each other? I'm sure the "enemy" down in North Carolina is just rolling with glee at how we're rebelling against our own players.
Yes, Greivis is a ball hog and extremely selfish, but so are almost all talented players to a certain degree...they are passionate without fail. Let's allow him and the Maryland team to play their game and develop. Remember, they are still developing student athlete players and only 18-21 year olds at heart.
Go terps
Posted by: Ray | January 11, 2009 9:09 PM
WOW. Just read all the replies. Jeff, it must be an education for you!
After thinking about this whol matter for a few days and reading everyones comments I've come to the following conclusions:
GV needs to grow up a little and stop 'communicating' with the crowd at all games and focus his energy oon the court. Let his play do his talking.
GW needs to do what all good teacher and coaches do - treat all of his players equally and reign GV in. If GV starts to get out of control (even if its with the best of intentions) sit him down. We have other good outside shooters - and perhaps better outside shooters than GV who need to see the ball and some open looks instead of GV thinking he has to get the team started or make the last shot when its needed. (Now I do give him credit for the assists on DN and EH's 3balls late against GT but this is what he needs to be looking to do almost all the time. He'll still have to take a few 3;s himself because he can make them and keep the opposing defenses honest)
If GV initiates any crowd interaction or responds to anything - sit him down. GW needs to deliver a clear message to GV and the rest of the team that this behavior wont be tolerated. Period. No matter what the result. Wasnt GVs ejection in last years BC loss enough of a wakeup call for him to learn a lesson? Evidently not. Sitting GV will also send a message to the rest of the team. If GW is as willing to be so quick to sit GV as he seems to be with his other players, then its a good thing for the long term. GW is his own worst enemy in this situation becuase he hasnt clamped down on GV since he got here. You dont need to take the passion out of GV; you just need to teach him how to control it better and use it to his advantage.
Our "fans" need to learn better ways to express the evident frustration with GW and the programs overall recent slide from the top of the heap in better ways that spooging their hatred at the players. Its not any of their faults, and most importantly they want to be here and I believe doing their best.
If some of you believe your own words then look at it objectively - youre expecting two and three star recruits to play like four and five star recruits. Think about that for a minute - isnt that a bit unrealistic?
The team - mostly young, inexperienced and undersized is busting their collective humps to the best of their abilities to win. They'll make mistakes - probably more than the haters will want - but they'll never give up. GO TERPS! Keep fighting - dont give in!!
Posted by: Terps06 | January 12, 2009 10:42 AM
I watched the 2002 Final Four at a longtime Terps and Ravens fans bar on Falls Road. That's where you come to root for your team, or to groan; but not to knock it! As so many commenters said, if you're not going to support the team. why watch the games at all? Go sit in the parking lot and smoke a cigarette. Or stay home.
Posted by: Bubba | January 12, 2009 11:05 AM
Vasquez is way out of line and it's up to the coach to straighten him out or bench him. It's bad enough for a team to descend in a few years from the national title to an NIT also-ran; no wonder the fans are frustrated. Now we have a Maryland player actually cursing the home fans. No player should be allowed to get away with that. Certainly not one who has lead the team nowhere. This is the ACC, not some low-class backwater.
Posted by: bob s | January 12, 2009 11:19 AM
That was a pretty poor game for the first 31-32 minutes, at least the Terps finished strong but still the win was pretty ugly. Their poor shooting from the Morgan State loss was still there and a better team could have pulled away from the Terps. As for Vasquez, I am sick of his showboating but fans should just support the team, they may not make the tourney but I am seeing some promise in Mosley, he has started to come alive and that will be good in the future. I didn't like the loss to Morgan State but I don't have huge expectations for this team this year so I got over it pretty fast.
Posted by: Marcus | January 12, 2009 11:41 AM
Since big time division 1 basketball and football players get to walk around campus as if they own it, fans, especially students, have every right to boo poor play.
Posted by: shreds123 | January 12, 2009 12:01 PM
Huge Maryland fan. I don't blame the player but I wonder why the coach allows it. I said it - I like Coach Williams but why does he allow the bad on the court behavior. The beating on the chest and the yelling in the stands is just not acceptable for a program like Maryland that has or had class. Tough to get the best recruits when the organization is thought by many others not to have class. We just accept it becasue we love Maryland. Just a thought.
Posted by: JOE CEE | January 12, 2009 12:58 PM
Gary should have the guts to either bench Vasquez or extend an apology to the Md students/fans. Vasquez is a disgrace to the program even if he is a decent ball player and not a team player. Gary should try coaching his team instead of talking half the game to the bench and his coaches. He is a classless act.
Posted by: Timothy Hodge | January 13, 2009 12:49 PM
As a life long terps fan and student (2001-2005), I feel the need to bring up an issue that has really hurt MD's home court advantage, and which is independent of the team's inconsistent play...the lottery system for distributing student tickets. Rewarding students for "attending" games leads hundreds of kids to claim tickets, get scanned at the door, and walk right back out. Everyone wants to see Duke and UNC, because it's a riot atmosphere. So instead of people attending the early season games, and building a relationship with the team, the entire attitude is shifted away from our team, and towards these "rivals".
The kids today came to MD looking forward to hating Duke and Riots. Hopefully they learn to appreciate high pressure defense, hard work, and an overachieving team that is gonna upset some teams with less heart.
One final thought. Sean Mosley is great.
Posted by: K Man 2005 | January 13, 2009 10:07 PM