MARC rider finds new seats rough--here's why
MARC rider Summer Gonter of Baltimore wasn't so happy with the new double-decker MARC cars the Maryland Transit Administration acquired from Virginia Railway Express. But as we'll learn, the MTA faced a tough choice:
I 've just had the unfortunate experience to ride in what I think may be the new MARC doubledecker cars. The seating is awful. It's all molded plastic, and the lush leg room MARC passengers are used to is gone. Individual armrests are gone. Space in general is gone. I was reading a hardback book and barely had room to open it. I could not lift my purse up from the floor without disturbing my seat companion. The aisles appear to be smaller too.
WHY? WHY? WHY? Are these the cars they bought from VRE? If so, I have no doubts now about why they sold them off.... But if this is the new trend with MARC seating (were they just new seats in an old car??) then I'm horrified by the direction we're going.
Jack Cahalan, a spokesman for the Maryland Department of Transportation, provided the following explanation:
The 13 new bi-level cars are identical to 50 already owned by MTA because they were acquired by Virginia Railway Express (VRE) as part of MTA’s contract with the manufacturer. When VRE decided to sell the cars as part of a program to increase the uniformity of its fleet MTA successfully negotiated to purchase them. This was a rare opportunity because the coaches were built to MTA specifications, including the ability to travel at high speeds on Amtrak’s Northeast Corridor as well as fit though the B&P Tunnels in Baltimore. MTA made safety and cosmetic improvements so they would match the existing fleet. This work was completed in June 2009, and the cars were placed in service on the Camden and Brunswick lines. MTA could not operate the cars on the Penn Line until they were approved for travel at 125 MPH. MTA received this approval on November 1 and immediately began placing the cars in Penn Line train sets. As of November 12 all Penn Line train sets are comprised of bi-level cars. This has added 300 seats each day as well as additional standing room.
Your reader is correct that the spacing of the rows of seats on the new cars is tighter than the existing fleet. The seats and aisles are the same width. When VRE acquired the cars originally they requested tighter row spacing which yields an additional five seats per car compared to the MARC seating configuration. While modifying the new cars for MARC service MTA did explore the possibility of replacing the seats and installing seating similar to the existing MARC cars. This would have required a different configuration of bolts which would have meant considerable cost and delay getting the cars into service. This issue, when combined with the fact that VRE successfully operated the cars for nine years with the tighter configuration, MTA decided not to make these changes at this time. We will consider reconfiguring the seats when the cars receive their mid-life overhaul in several years. In the meantime riders get the benefit of additional seats.
So take your choice: Standing in the aisle or getting a seat that's a tighter fit. On the face of it, I'd say MTA made the right call. Of course, I haven't actually occupied the new seats.
Here's the test: If you continue to sit in them when there are no other seats to be found, the MTA is right. If they're so bad you'd rather stand, the MTA is wrong.







Comments
The new seats are a tight squeeze. There's no headrest on the seats near the vestibule. Fortunately the trains I ride still have the old configuration in a few cars on the front and back of the trains.
Posted by: L | November 23, 2009 5:59 PM
The new cars' seats are definitely a regression from the bi-levels already running on the Penn Line. But considering they can run at 125 MPH, I don't think we can complain all that much. Let's not forget that the Penn Line is, to my knowledge, the fastest commuter train in North America.
Posted by: Patapsco Jones | November 23, 2009 9:32 PM
MTA definitely made the right decision. I think your reader exaggerated (quite) a bit, but the cost of changing all of the seats is not nearly worth it and the cost of passing up the opportunity to buy so many of MARC specified trainsets is also great. I wish they could have been more comfortable but that's secondary.
Posted by: Fritz | November 23, 2009 9:39 PM
Yes the seats are uncomfortably tight, to the point of being claustrophobic (and I'm not prone to feeling that way). You can no longer see over the seats in front of you, so the tighter quarters seem much more so.
And how a car can be certified to travel @ 125mph and *not* provide headrests on all seats is beyond belief.
Posted by: Bill | November 23, 2009 10:23 PM
Does anyone have pictures of the new MARC coach interiors? I haven't had the chance to be on the new ones, so I'd be interested in seeing just how cramped they are.
Posted by: Chris | November 24, 2009 2:16 PM
Fritz - I didn't exaggerate. That was my experience. Your experience may have been different, but leg room is a big deal, and I felt VERY claustrophobic. While I appreciate the concept of more double-decker cars and more seats per car, my email to Mr. Dresser was out of frustration. Everyone I hear boarding the trains around me is expressing the same displeasure for the seating arrangement.
Posted by: Summer | November 25, 2009 8:03 PM