by Mark Silva
Sometimes, supporters say the darnedest things.
Consider the conference call that Sen. John McCain's campaign organized today, corralling three Republican or supportive mayors around Florida to counterbalance coverage of Sen. Barack Obama's tour of the Sunshine State.
First Mayor Rick Baker of St. Petersburg had this to say about off-shore oil drilling, which McCain and President Bush are promoting as an answer to America's oil demands:
""I'm not committed to saying I'm for lifting the moratorium at this point. We have to protect our beaches, obviously that's the No. 1 thing we have to do. But I also believe we have to look at various options ... If Sen. McCain puts it on the table that the state is going to have the ultimate control ... it's something you can at least talk about."
Then former Mayor Dick Greco, a registered Democrat who is supporting McCain, offered this account of his personal meeting with Cuba's Fidel Castro, something that the McCain campaign is certainly not encouraging in its debate with Obama:
In 2002, Greco had gone to Cuba - "something I always wanted to do and some people thought it was the wrong thing to do'' - and he saw oil rigs along a beach there.
"Guess what he said, Castro, before we mentioned it. He said 'I know you saw those oil wells, which looks pretty damn bad on a beach front piece of property.' He said 'I had to do that because we need the fuel.' "
"Now, that's not what we're talking about .. and that's a pity," Greco added. "We must think about all kinds of alternatives to solve our problems This is not a done deal. This is just one of the things they are exploring."






Comments
McCain and his Rethuglican scare tactics are already getting old and it's only June.
McCain supports and has the full support of the worlds worst dictator wannabee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnb2IrsU1Cg
Posted by: Vicki Iseman | June 21, 2008 4:52 PM
Mayor Rick Baker of St. Petersburg :
We have to protect our beaches, obviously that's the No. 1 thing we have to do.
___________
Mayor I think the No. 1 thing is to protect the people from high gas prices...what the heck good are your beaches for tourism if people can't afford to go there.
Drilling for oil is not going to hurt your beaches.
The drilling should have started 25 years ago.
Posted by: Louretta | June 21, 2008 5:27 PM
I agree with McCain and his cronies and I'm voting Republican because:
When it comes to raising my three kids, figuring out how to pay for their college, wondering how my wife and I will ever retire, and trying to figure out if the price of gas is going to make food unaffordable...Republican politicians are the only party that has a platform that will address these issues. This is proven by their focus on:
Flag pin wearing--as we all know, flag pins fill up the gas tank every time.
Gun ownership--whenever I can't pay my bills, I just bask in the glory of all the guns I can freely own.
Abortion--when it comes to managing my family finances, I appreciate the government deciding if I can afford to have another child.
Terrorism--every day when I wake up I worry about a backpack bomber, not the price of gas, food, mortgages, healthcare, etc.
Morality--if it weren't for Republicans, congress might be full of men who cheat on their wives (Newt Gingrich), take bribes from lobbyists, solicit young pages and tap their feet in public bathrooms.
Gay Marriage--it is critical that gay people not be allowed to marry because the cost of gas will go up, the cost of food will go up, the cost of healthcare will go up, interest rates will go up, the war in Iraq will never end, the war in Afghanistan will never end...
Elitism--Democrats are too smart for me and besides, all that book learnin' stuff makes my head hurt
Why are you voting Republican?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
Posted by: John E | June 21, 2008 5:38 PM
Is the McCain campaign in free fall or this just the prelude?
Posted by: Stewart | June 21, 2008 5:40 PM
Well, looks like McCain was looking for enthusiastic "yes" support from these people and he did not get it!! This is TOO FUNNY!! Guess he and his campaign failed to do some vetting!!! TOO FUNNY!!
Posted by: NinaK | June 21, 2008 5:46 PM
I think the No. 1 thing is to protect the people from high gas prices...what the heck good are your beaches for tourism if people can't afford to go there.
Drilling for oil is not going to hurt your beaches.
The drilling should have started 25 years ago.
Posted by: Louretta | June 21, 2008 5:27 PM
I would be willing to consider drilling in ANWAR and off the coast of Florida if our country was given absolute guarantees that this oil was going to be destined exclusively for U.S.consumption.
Of course that will require that this reserve be, for all practical purposes, nationalized. That by itself would seem to temper the enthusiasm of the proponents of that approach, the Republican Party knows this but they're desperate for votes this year and they're hoping that people are dumb enough to believe them.
The purpose of drilling in ANWAR and off the coast of Florida is designed to provide the multinationals with oil to sell in the WORLD MARKET and it is naive for any one to believe, and disingenous of Republicans to sell the concept, that what we drill out of ANWAR will serve to control the relentles increase in the price of fuel in the U.S.
Posted by: Hey America, the RepubliCONS think you're all as stupid as they are | June 21, 2008 5:57 PM
A Florida citizen writes:
Each drilling platform off our shores would legally dump over 90,000 tons of heavy metals, muds and toxic chemicals into our waters. This pollution from drilling would cause health and reproductive problems for fi sh and other marine life.
Based on the experience of other Gulf drilling operations, small spills, like the 500 gallon spill off a Louisiana rig last June, would be common. A catastrophic spill—one that could spoil the ecology and economic value of Florida beaches for generations—is a real possibility.
Posted by: Pepe Santos | June 21, 2008 6:00 PM
Oil is a finite resource (only so much then it is gone.The United State with 5% of the population uses 25% of the oil. If we stopped whining and just started to be responsible with our oil use we would bring down the cost of oil. But it is easer to blame others than to look and see what WE can do.Get off your fat butts and we can do things.
Posted by: Tom | June 21, 2008 6:09 PM
Lauretta nobody is talking about saving tourism. Were talking about saving the environment. And drilling hurts the beaches horribly when toxic chemicals are released from huge holes in the ground and hurricanes come through 3 times a year ripping pipes out and spilling oil. Yea i want that for 15cents cheaper gas in 5 years...cmon now lets be serious
Posted by: Smarterthanu | June 21, 2008 6:13 PM
The No. 1 thing is to protect Big Oil Profits. Vote McCain!
Posted by: ericmiami | June 21, 2008 6:17 PM
Drilling for oil should be done on the permitted acreage in the Eastern Gulf where the states have approved them (Texas, Louisiana, Alabama). If Floridians approve it, then drill by all means. Otherwise, why are we not drilling the 68 million acres that the Eastern Gulf states have approved for drilling?
Posted by: Thomas | June 21, 2008 6:19 PM
Repubs still think they can drill their way out of this:
http://extras.sltrib.com/bagley/Archive.asp?Vol=content&Num=1
Can't Dub'ya just appeal to his friends?:
http://extras.sltrib.com/bagley/Archive.asp?Vol=content&Num=21
Posted by: dt | June 21, 2008 6:30 PM
This is so silly. How about not drilling for oil and building an economy off of HHO water distillation.
There is and has been since the mid 80's to run a car on water.
Think thats a joke. Japan just released a production model a week ago.
Do a google search for "browns gas"
and HHO. There is a mechanic in florida who's been running his 93' taurus on tap water for a few years now.
Why is this technology not out yet?
Forget this Bush-McCain oil noise.
We could do so much better than what this immature pair has to offer.
What are we holding
Posted by: matt | June 21, 2008 6:39 PM
The Castro thing is just a silly slip of the tongue. But McCain's drilling flip-flop is a real problem in Florida. We need our beaches and tourism more than ever with a statewide recession. McCain might have lost the state on that.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | June 21, 2008 6:47 PM
Reduction in the price of gas during the next president's first term as a result of new irresponsible drilling - zero dollars.
McCain flip-flopping on yet another issue in order to shore up his base - zero dollars.
Trading principles for power - zero dollars.
Tricking voters into voting against their own interests, risking the environment and tourism dollars for the benefit of big oil with no immediate or measurable benefit to themselves - priceless.
Posted by: Ed Lynch | June 21, 2008 6:55 PM
I just came upon this tabloid - after reading the comments I see that Socialism is alive and well in the United States.
Good move, vote Obama - cry to real Americans in a few years when we have resprted into another Carter "error".
Posted by: CB | June 21, 2008 7:05 PM
McCain is making the claim that offshore drilling will provide short term energy relief, but govt estimates are that if approved today, it wouldn't have much impact before the 2030s. He also misrepresents Obama as being anti nuclear, while the truth is Obama is for using nuclear as part of a package of alternatives. A McCain ad is suggesting that he is pro alternative energy, but it's a lie. He only favors centralized alternatives like nukes, he opposes alternatives that encourage individual citizens to be energy independent, like wind, solar, geothermal and hydrogen exchange batteries. McCain is for big business, Obama is for becoming energy independent.
Posted by: Javalation | June 21, 2008 7:19 PM
1st the only ones that really would beneft from off-shore drilling would be the oil companies unless as one person stated, the oil would be used only for us in the U.S. and we know that they would never go for this. 2nd, The oil companies already have 62 million acres of leased undeveloped area for drilling, so why don't they use this first? 3rd, If we had pushed for developement of alternative power sources after the 70's oil embargo (which was just a ploy by the oil companies too see just how far they could push and get away with, there were oil tanker islands just beyond the 12 mile limits, just sitting waiting to unload) we wouldn't be in this mess. So now we need to push for these alternative power sources and get away from oil. We also need to push for various sources so that we would not become hostage to just one source for power. 4th, even if they started drilling tomorrow offshore, it wouldn't help us a bit for 5 to 8 years. What we do need NOW is a windfall tax on the excessive profits of the oil companies. As for McCain's push for a federal tax holiday on gas, wrong, this is what helps build our roads and bridges, so what little gain if any that we would get, would come back and haunt us and would cost us alot more in the long run.
Bertrand
Posted by: Bertrand | June 21, 2008 7:19 PM
Yes, protect the beach resorts. The working class and poor flock to "The Breakers" in Palm Beach every chance they get. Wake up America. Wake up.
Posted by: Mandelay | June 21, 2008 7:46 PM
The Republicans are doing what they did with Iraq, using a convenient crisis to justify doing something that they've wanted to do for a long time.
They used 9/11 to justify a war in Iraq. Now they're using the price of gas to justify ruining our beaches so the oil industry can make even more money. Despite record profits, McCain wants to cut thier taxes even more!
The Republican party has been the party of Big Business for sometime and still is.
Posted by: Joe D. Schmoe | June 21, 2008 7:53 PM
wait until little old ladies start dying from exposure in their unheated apartments this winter. drilling will look like a good idea.
Posted by: mike m | June 21, 2008 8:01 PM
queue green trees to tell us how safe drilling is.
Posted by: crud | June 21, 2008 8:05 PM
And the major media / Democratzi hit machine rolls on. Internet news portals are saturated with feel good stories saturated in glowing praise for snObama, while McCain is derided as a tottering old, evil, and rich white guy. Anyone mentioning snObama's sordid past is instantly labeled a Republican racist. We are put on notice that wanting to know more about this candidate is not allowed. Daring to mention anything even remotely negative about the new messiah could have dire consequences. Watch your mouth and your mind. Be careful what you say and think. Look at the photos of the glassy eyed masses from his rally in Oregon. we haven't seen such adoring herds this since Nuremberg, 1939. The snObama and his "Yes We Can!" zombies wont hesitate to take you down. The fact that you are reading this now means this pro site maintains a snippet of fortitude against this frightening wave, but it wont last long. Time is limited for America, and the ideals she was founded on..
Posted by: karpy | June 21, 2008 8:13 PM
i think looking for more oil is not a long term solution - really if we use less we need less oil ...and if we spent money on new energies and not on stealing other peoples oil by sending a lot of troops too foreign lands maybe we will be closer too a independent solution and we could even end up with a new industry from new energy and help solve the world problems with oil.
Posted by: TC | June 21, 2008 8:15 PM
John E., if you cannot afford to have another child, instead of killing one by abortion, why not use a condom or better yet, keep your damn pants zipped. It's that simple, you idiot.
Posted by: Mary Nugget | June 21, 2008 8:19 PM
Hey CB,
Are you against all government programs or only those which don't currently benefit you? Police protection? Fire protection? Public schools? Where do you draw the line exactly? (By the way none of this is "socialism".)
Do you know how many wealthy industrialized nations don't have universal access to health care?
Answer: Just us.
Posted by: Ed Lynch | June 21, 2008 9:25 PM
The time for hard decisions is upon us. There is no more free lunch for anyone. Texas has had rigs off its beaches for decades and they are still in great shape. There is no more tolerance for NIMBY.
Posted by: Dennis S | June 21, 2008 9:40 PM
Obama repeatedly states that drilling will not lower the price of gasoline. I believe that more importantly, it will reduce the imbalance of trade significantly. I believe that is the point that should be used to counter the no drilling rave
Howard
Posted by: Howard V Otterholt | June 21, 2008 10:02 PM
Drilling will only buck the crisis onto our kids. Let's just deal with this once and for all.
Posted by: David S. | June 21, 2008 11:28 PM
It seems that most people here are missing a few points. True, oil from Florida won't be a help for years, if ever, considering the global market. But, the cost of gas isn't really about the supply and demand, it's about speculation in the stock market. By introducing a possibility of a new source of domestic oil, fears of an oil embargo go down as well as the price that is artificially inflated to today's prices. There's no less oil available today than there was 2 years ago, but, just like the housing situation, speculators, investors and others out to make a quick buck have pushed the prices to what you see now. There doesn't need to be a fist in the glove - just the possibility that there is will make a difference.
Posted by: BGW | June 21, 2008 11:44 PM
We get most of our oil from Mexico and Canada.
When Obama talked of unilaterally reworking NAFTA, they made it clear they would use the opening to renegotiate the terms they provide us oil under.
Now Obama tells Fortune magazine that his words were just political blustering, "Sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified."
But the Obama campaign denied reports at the time that his top economic adviser met with the Canadians to ensure them his rhetoric was "more reflective of political maneuvering than policy."
Posted by: Miguel | June 22, 2008 12:03 AM
Well...It sounds to me like the looney left only wants other countries to drill for oil and natural gas off our shores.
Maybe we can start buying oil from China and Cuba as they drill 60 miles off our coast.
Good deal for the liberal hate America crowd and a bad deal for us normal Americans.
Paulo
Posted by: Paulo | June 22, 2008 12:10 AM
Who needs cheap gas to visit a beach loaded with tar balls?
Posted by: David Sand | June 22, 2008 4:44 AM
I am a Chicago transplant to Florida. How far can you actually see when you go to the beach in Chicago and look off in the distance? With the curviture of the earth not far. The writer's ignorance is apparent. Surely he would show such picture off our gulf coast where hundreds of oil platforms are already set up. They will not sink wells were they could be seen from the beach. It reminds me of a friend in Chicago who commented they had never been out of Chicago and had never seen a real cow. It is obvious this writer needs to get out of Chicago and go to the gulf coast states and see if he can see any oil wells from shore.
Posted by: Robert De Corah | June 22, 2008 5:32 AM
Funny thing is Senator Obama, doesn't have a plan for energy other than pie in the sky technologies of tomorrow that are not ready and won't be for another 15 years!
At least McCain is for drilling, and for new nuclear plants, while also pushing the research and development of alternative fuels.
All the Obama supporters can say that increased and safe offshore drilling is not a quick solution.. what is wrong with a medium term solution eh?
Also, why do you think that the coast of Louisiana, Texas and a part of Alabama have the greatest concentration of sport fishing waters in the world?
One answer they go out and fish around the rigs out in the Gulf of Mexico! Why? Because the rigs provide habitat for the fish..........
Posted by: thomas | June 22, 2008 7:27 AM
Really? you're concerned with beachfront and asthetics while people are going hungry and losing their jobs and can't afford groceries?
Really?
No ..DRILL DRILL DRILL before all the middle class goes bankrupt.
Because of fuel prices local factories are also moving overseas since they can't compete.
Use your heads. DO NOT VOTE DEMOCRAT.. GET 'EM ALL OUT OF THERE.
Anyone who thinks animals can't move habitats doesn't have a clue.
Posted by: nick | June 22, 2008 9:37 AM
Let's destroy our environment, we don't need it as much as we need another gallon of gasoline. There they go again, those Ridiculous Republicans!!! Defending the Oil Corps, the Auto Corps and the Insurance Corps, maybe they should re-name their Party, The Undertakers Party !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, Chicago | June 22, 2008 10:25 AM
Use your heads. DO NOT VOTE DEMOCRAT.. GET 'EM ALL OUT OF THERE.
Anyone who thinks animals can't move habitats doesn't have a clue.
Posted by: nick | June 22, 2008 9:37 AM
Yes...put oil platforms everywhere. Put one in nicks' backyard. He needs more and more oil....he can't live with a car that would get 40 MPG. He must have his Hummer to show how much of a man he is. He can't live without his status symbol. He believes he has a right to use 25% of the worlds oil by the 3% of its population. Straight out of Mutual of Omaha...he knows his animals. Birds with oil on their feathers can glide through the air much better. Anyone who thinks "humans" can't change their habits must be republican.
Posted by: bill r. | June 22, 2008 11:10 AM
Here we go, again. Another round of finger-pointing at the Republicans, accusing them of wanting to destroy the environment and pandering to big business, like the 'Oil Corps' and the 'Auto Corps'. It would be so much more creditable for these voting, driving monkeys to put their money where their accusations are. Do they not use electricity? Drive cars? Eat food? One would think that they are somehow above all these plebeian requirements as they loudly and blindly proclaim how evil the Republicans are for trying to keep America fueled.
Posted by: BGW | June 22, 2008 12:12 PM
Here's a recent quote about opening up new coastal areas to drilling:
"With those resources, which would take years to develop, you would only postpone or temporarily relieve our dependency on fossil fuels. We are going to have to go to alternative energy, and the exploitation of existing reserves of oil, natural gas, even coal, and we can develop clean coal technology, are all great things. But we also have to devote our efforts, in my view, to alternative energy sources, which is the ultimate answer to our long-term energy needs, and we need it sooner rather than later."
- John McCain, May 2008
Posted by: Ed Lynch | June 22, 2008 3:12 PM
None of us can go without our needs of food, clothing, shelter and fuel, what you so intelligently refer to as " plebeian requirements" !!! What we are above, is the drivel you post and expect any thinking human being to accept. It is indeed evil, when you lie to a nation about WMD and go to war with a backward nation, because it has oil and try to justify it by more lying. In the meantime, our men and women of our Armed Forces, are dying and being maimed because of a lie and more hypocrisy !! Justified by the fabrication of, what you refer to as," keeping America fueled", or did you mean " fooled "? Who is doing all of this fooling, why the Corps, of course!! How else do you think they can acquire 123 BILLION DOLLARS in PROFITS, last year numbers!! I can only guess what this years numbers will be, maybe they will give us a break this year, but I wouldn't hold my breath !!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, Chicago | June 22, 2008 4:05 PM
Well, I support bringing the troops home, alive, intact and soon. And, I think it's wrong to lie to people and more massively wrong to lie to masses of people. And, I think it's equally wrong to gouge people as It seems oil, insurance, medical, building, etc industries are doing. However, I thought we were discussing drilling in Florida, not the war in Iraq. And, I thought the point of the column was keeping America running today and tomorrow instead of ranting about corporate profits. Excuse me for straying so far off base. I didn't realize how inferior I am. I guess my 'drivel' is totally outclassed by your obviously better understanding of how the world works. You've completely convinced me. You're right, I'm wrong and I'll try, in the future, to be a better team player.
Posted by: BGW | June 22, 2008 5:04 PM
Well typed out for one of those " voting, driving monkeys ' !! I didn't think Republicans were that capable !! Shucks, I got one wrong !! There goes my record !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, Chicago | June 23, 2008 12:42 AM