Obama's response to McCain's speech: The Swamp
 
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Posted May 6, 2008 4:55 PM
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by James Oliphant

And in the interests of equal time, here is Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor:

The Straight Talk Express took another sharp right turn today as John McCain promised his conservative base four more years of out-of-touch judges that would threaten a woman's right to choose, gut the campaign finance reform that bears his own name, and trample the rights and interests of the American people. Barack Obama has always believed that our courts should stand up for social and economic justice, and what's truly elitist is to appoint judges who will protect the powerful and leave ordinary Americans to fend for themselves.


This response does address more specifically two issues that are part of the great legal divide: abortion and campaign finance reform.

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I remember in 2004 when the Republic Party branded John Kerry a "flip-flooper", so I'm wondering, what does that make McCain?


WASHINGTON � Senator John McCain likes to present himself as the candidate of the "Straight Talk Express" who does not pander to voters or change his positions with the political breeze. But the fine print of his record in the Senate indicates that he has been a lot less consistent on some of his signature issues than he has presented himself to be so far in his presidential campaign.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/03/us/politics/03mccain.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&ref=politics&adxnnlx=1204549929-2hNGEwLHgpUz3rr1CGq56w&oref=slogin


Mr. McCain, who derided his onetime Republican competitor Mitt Romney for his political mutability, has himself meandered over the years from position to position on some topics, particularly as he has tried to court the conservatives who have long distrusted him. His most striking turnaround has been on the Bush tax cuts, which he voted against twice but now wants to make permanent. Mr. McCain has also expressed varying positions on immigration, torture, abortion and Donald H. Rumsfeld, the former defense secretary.


This article points out that McCain has reversed course on several key issues as he has tried to gain the support of the Republican base. To summarize the article:


On tax cuts...
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In 2001, McCain voted against Bush's tax cuts, saying "I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle-class Americans who most need tax relief." He also voted against additional tax cuts in 2003, later saying that "I just thought it was too tilted to the wealthy, and I still do."
Today, McCain wants to make those tax cuts permanent.


On immigration...
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In 2005, McCain supported comprehensive immigration reform, which included a pathway to citizenship.
Now, he claims that "if his original proposal came to a vote on the Senate floor, he would not vote for it."


On abortion and Roe v. Wade...
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In 1999, McCain said that he would not support overturning Roe v. Wafe "int he sort term, or even the long term," because that would "force X number of women in America" to undergo "illegal and dangerous operations."
Today, McCain has campaigned on overturning Roe v. Wade.


On his revisionist history regarding Donald Rumsfeld...
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In 2004, McCain refused to call for Rumsfeld's resignation, saying that Bush "can have the team around him that he wants around him." In 2006, retired generals called for Rumseld's resignation, but McCain did not.
Now, while running for president, McCain has claimed that "I�m the only one that said that Rumsfeld had to go." The article notes that "[t]he campaign has since acknowledged that Mr. McCain was incorrect, and more recently the senator has stopped short of claiming he called for the defense secretary�s ouster."


On torture...
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McCain has traditionally been against torture, citing his experience as a POW for his decision.
Now, McCain voted last month "against a bill that would require the Central Intelligence Agency to abide by the restrictions on interrogating prisoners outlined in the Army Field Manual."


In his decades in office, McCain has an average party unity score in the low 80s. Since he has campaigned for president, his party unity score has skyrocketed.


2005: 81%
2006: 76%
2007: 90%


The sharp turns on the "Straight Talk Express" listed above are sure to be a problem for John McMaverick in the general election.


To all the people that said they would vote for McCain if Hillary lost:

There are 6 Supreme Court Justiced over the age of 65.

We will go back to illegal "safe" abortions for people with money and dangerous abortions that often lead to lifetime physical damage or death for those unable to pay the high price of safe abortions.

Please think about the issues decided by the Supreme Court and decide if you want even more power given to big business. The rich will continue to get richer.


Please think about the issues decided by the Supreme Court and decide if you want even more power given to big business. The rich will continue to get richer.

Posted by: Julie | May 6, 2008 5:31 PM

Yes Julie....after hearing that 45% of Hillarys' supporters will not vote for Obama if she loses, I hope they stop posting about the issues. Why argue the issue when they obviously don't mean a thing to them. They just want to take their football and go home. Maybe they would like to know what McBush said about why women are paid less than a man. He said that womens pay would get better if they get educated and training. Do you have that women...McBush says all you need is education and traing to earn the same amount as a man doing the same job. Go vote for that!


According to Obama people who make $61,055 a year are "rich" and should get a tax increase. I guess he'd be all for the "rich" getting richer.


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"We will go back to illegal "safe" abortions for people with money and dangerous abortions that often lead to lifetime physical damage or death for those unable to pay the high price of safe abortions."

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Posted by: Julie | May 6, 2008 5:31 PM

Pardon me for saying so, Julie, but your post is unadulterated, hysterical nonsense.

Overturning Roe v. Wade would not make abortions illegal. It would simply allow each state to decide the issue for itself. One can safely assume most "blue states" would continue to guarantee access to abortions by statute or state constitutional provision. For instance, California - the most populous state - granted the right to an abortion before Roe v. Wade. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell that's going to change.

As for those who live in Red states where Legislatures might be inclined to ban or restrict abortions, nothing would stop anyone from traveling to a nearby blue state or abortion-friendly red state to get one. Thus, for the price of a toll call and a bus ticket (assuming one doesn't have any better method of travel available), the overwhelming majority of women would still be able to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. It doesn't take an exceptionally rich person to acquire either. Nor does it take a particularly bright person to figure out that "back-room" abortions are not attractive alternatives, given that they were neither free nor particularly safe.

Thus, the notion that abortions will be only available to "rich" people is really a lot of rot.


"And in the interests of equal time..."

The Democrats at the Swamp always give the Democrat the right to respond, but never give any Republican the chance to respond to charges by Democrats.

Swamp writers idea of equal time is balancing out a White Democrat with a Black Democrat. Which is why even their fellow Lefties don't take the Swamp seriously.


According to Obama people who make $61,055 a year are "rich" and should get a tax increase. I guess he'd be all for the "rich" getting richer.

Posted by: Jeff | May 6, 2008 6:21 PM

Well thank god...that will be a relief for McBush and his trust fund wife. Since you're so tight with the Busher, did he tell you how much that little money makers worth? He didn't tell anyone else. I'ld have left my disabled wife too for all that loot.


This figures, there was no serious discussion from McBush about the suspension of habeas corpus.


Or torture.


Or violation of the Geneva conventions.


Or illegal wiretapping.


Just the tired old rhetoric about activist judges that we've come to expect from tired old Republican candidates with every election.


Does McBush really think this is going to gain traction this cycle, with Iraq, the economy, health insurance hanging over the heads of voters?


Given the chance and inclination to discuss Constitutional overreach, McBush chose to scold the judiciary in an era marked by unprecedented seizures of power by the president, a position he aims to fill. Needless to say, this speech doesn't bode well for what McBush would do with executive power were he to ascend to the office.
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On the Supreme Court, McCain is on the right side of the issues. Abortion is murder, pure and simple. A few demented justices in 1973 decided they knew more than God and imposed a Hitler designed genocide system in the U.S. Abortion equals holocaust II. Blab all you want to the contrary, but maybe you'll want to save your arguments for choice for when you meet your Maker.


Blab all you want to the contrary, but maybe you'll want to save your arguments for choice for when you meet your Maker.

Posted by: Jeff | May 6, 2008 9:40 PM


Or...when McCain sends you off to die in his 100 years of war in Iraq for oil.


but maybe you'll want to save your arguments for choice for when you meet your Maker.

Posted by: Jeff | May 6, 2008 9:40 PM

My mother was pro-choice also.


B Hussein Obama wants activist judges who will determine outcomes on social issues looking out for the little guy. Nonsense Obama a judge must rule on the law as written by our founders or our legislators.
It makes no difference if you feel empathy or sympathy for some one justice is blind what does the law say don't affect outcomes to please your feelings Obama.
The fact is this socialist has too many feelings for Jeremiah Wright, his white grandmother the typical white person etc.
The law is the law period it is a judges duty to interpret it as
written not legislate new law from the bench to help liberals.
Obama is pro-abortion, infanticide, gay unions and marriages. He will ruin our nation in no time flat--you think our economy is bad wait till this loser gets in.
Obama has proposed a 10 year $60 billion National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank'" which is a high falutin name for a scheme to fund dubious pork-barrel projects that can't past muster in our pork addicted Congress. The 60 billion is just a downpayment it will be used to leverage almost half a trillion of additional infrastructure spending . Guess who will pay for this. Not to worry because Obama says the whole scheme will generate 2 million jobs.Obama has also proposed a 10 year $150 billion program to establish a green energy sector that will create up to $5 million jobs. This is known as WPA by FDR an Obama welfare program that will bankrupt the government. When Obama uses terms like investment its socialist code for welfare spending
Had enough yet--he is just so exciting girls swoon and faint.Jerry White, Springfield, IL


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