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Posted May 7, 2008 9:04 AM
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by Frank James

Here's an interesting finding from Gallup's pollsters -- almost as many Jewish voters say they would vote for Sen. Barack Obama for president against Sen. John McCain, the all-but-official Republican presidential nominee, as say they would vote for Sen. Hillary Clinton against McCain.

According to Gallup, 61 percent of Jewish voters surveyed said they'd vote for Obama in the general election versus 32 percent who say they'd vote for McCain.

That compares with 66 percent of Jewish voters who said they'd vote for Clinton to the 27 percent who said they'd vote for McCain

Gallup suggested the poll indicated that Obama hasn't been noticeably hurt by his past relationship with his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., who has spoken positively of Minister Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam and has rebuked Israel for the plight of Palestinians.

Evidence of Obama's concern about Jewish support for his candidacy stretches back to at least January, when he first publicly refuted Web-fueled rumors that he is or has been a Muslim -- the implication of the rumors being that he would be sympathetic to Muslim political concerns and anti-Israel in his worldview. At the same time, he also disassociated himself from the anti-Semitic remarks of black activist Louis Farrakhan, and has recently disassociated himself from his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Thus, any damage to Jews' perceptions of Obama as someone who would be sympathetic and fair to their interests could have occurred much earlier in the campaign. However, in terms of recent events -- particularly the ongoing controversy about why Obama would have belonged to a church led by someone with Wright's anti-Israel views (among other criticisms of Wright) -- Gallup trends suggest Obama's Jewish support is holding up.

Why is this important? Here's one reason. Think Florida, which has a significant Jewish population.

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Thank you for bringing us news about other than race or gender divide! I have been increasingly irritated with a media that seems to focus on how many blacks voted for Obama, "carrying the Southern states,''--as though this factor makes their votes less valid. Why don't we back out all the women who voted for Hillary and then let's take another look at the results.


Maybe those chickens came home to roost for McBush and Hagee.


That's becaus Jewish leaders don't tell their "flock" who to vote for. It's a matter of seperation of church and state, Wright and his church have abused this during this election especially and they should be TAXED, WHERE is the IRS!!!


Isn't this convenient. Notice the timing?

The Swamp cites an ultra-liberal polling firm Gallup, to make the case for "Jews for Obama."

Tell us Swamp Editors, if that's the case, why is Obama so far behind in heavily Jewish Florida?

Just doesn't quite fit with your "Everybody loves Obama" Template, now does it?


Obama is a UNITER, and a loving Christian! An American and DEDICATED husband of ONE WIFE! Jews know what that is, and what that means. They don't waver - to racist remarks like other groups. Neither do they CATER to women and their tears. Jews are smarter than most and remember well - what its like to be propaganderized and hated. ALL of America would be served well to learn from their example.

McSame and LIARY have been campaigning OPPOSITION free. Why is that? Because they are in bed together and because Barack has CLASS.


I have a feeling Eric Dondero considers anything to the left of John Birch Society "ultra liberal".


Wright and his church have abused this during this election especially and they should be TAXED, WHERE is the IRS!!!

Posted by: Bessie | May 7, 2008 10:09 AM

10-4 on that...but you show a bias when you stop short of the rightious rights activities.


Jewish voters have traditionally voted for more democrats than republicans. The fact that a more than a third of them would defect to McCain is GOOD news for the republican and bad news for BHO. Florida will go republican (again).
Remember that there are also a lot of Hispanics there, Frank, and don't think for a minute that the voters of cuban, latino, mexican, puerto rican and all hispanic cultures who are voting for Hillary now won't look at an Obama - McCain matchup in the fall and remember who the one courageous man in BOTH parties was that stood up for they and their family members' rights to live and work here legally on the way to full citizenship. McCain took a beating from his party over McCain-Kennedy but he will be rewarded by it in the long run. Just like when he started the Gang of 14, McCain knew that his political decisions would have an effect not just today but down the road. That's what real courage is for all you Obama fans out there who like to hear him talk about it in speeches. Where was Saint Barack when all these downtrodden people needed a voice?

The seeds McCain sowed with hispanic voters will bear fruit this November.


Posted by: Jeff | May 7, 2008 11:48 AM

Yes, Jeff, and the Hispanics are also going to remember how McCain was too much of a coward to even show up to vote for his bill. They're also going to remember that McCain has turned away from his immigration positions to favor much stricter enforcement in order to secure the nomination.


The seeds he planted will sprout some bitter fruit for Senator McCain.


The bill wouldn't pass whether or not McCain was there. Did St. Barack even show up or was he "present" for that vote, too? You know that he takes credit for a lot of things he didn't do and is nowhere to be found when one of his bills fails.

McCain put his name out there and took a stand. Obama hid and refused to take a stand as usual. That's the audacity of hypocrisy.


Luis-

You sound pretty angry Jeff. I guess you thijnk that the Hispanics don't have a right to question McCain's support no matter what he does or doesn't do.

And by the way, Obama managed to make it to the cloture vote. He voted with the supporters of the bill. He took a stand. He didn't turn tail and run like McCain.


I'm not angry, "Luis" or whatever your real name is, I just find it hysterically funny that you would criticize a candidate that fought hard for a compromise immigration plan for not making a meaningless vote while supporting one who did absolutely nothing to help hard-working people who want a shot at the american dream. Obama has offered nothing on the issue and his record indicates that he would continue the broken immigration system that preys on illegal immigrants and allows companies to make them work for slave wages without stepping up enforcement. McCain would give them a compromise plan that gives them rights as guest workers. Based on their records, it's really that simple.

I guess it is totally unsurprising that an Obama supporter would believe that doing nothing about the problem is better than trying to get something done, though. Obama has made a career out of doing nothing.


"McCain would give them a compromise plan that gives them rights as guest workers."

Jeff, or whatever your name is, you really need to keep up to date on McCain's positions. He's made it clear he would no longer support his previous plan and would focus on enforcement instead.


"Q: Your 2006 immigration proposal was much broader and included a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants who were already here. At this point, if your original proposal came to a vote on the Senate floor, would you vote for it?
A: No, it would not, because we know what the situation is today. So to say that that would come to the floor of the Senate, it won't. We went through various amendments which prevented that proposal. We will secure the borders first when I am president. I know how to do that. I come from a border state, where we know about building walls, and vehicle barriers, and sensors, and all of the things necessary. I will have the border state governors certify the borders are secured. Then we will move onto the other aspects of this issue, as importantly as tamper-proof biometric documents, which then, unless an employer hires someone with those documents, that employer will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. That will cause a lot of people to leave voluntarily. "

2008 Simi Valley Republican debate

Trust me friend, Hispanics know where McCain really stands on this issue better than you. He doesn't stand where he used to.


Jews for obama? Ahahahahaha


Luis, what's objectionable about any of that? I think most immigrants who want to work and stay out of trouble would be okay with that plan. Why SHOULDN'T we prosecute employers who take advantage of illegals and pay them pennies? The guest worker program in McCain-Kennedy would've stopped that practice.

McCain acknowledging that the same exact bill won't get through congress (it won't) is not him saying he isn't for it. What do you have against tamperproof documents for guest workers? Those documents would protect those people from predatory employers.

Thanks for showing how McCain has a plan and Obama has the big nothing that sums up his entire senate career. I'm outta here, it's been good rappin' with ya, John E.


Jeff-

Yes Jeff, he does have a plan. A very different one from the one he previously had, the one that you said would bring him Hispanic voters. That's the point friend, he backed out on that plan. You can't use it to sell McCain any longer, to hispanics or anyone else. You need to discuss his current positions, not the ones he ran away from.

As to Obama's plans, not that it makes any difference to our discussion of McCain's, Here are his plans:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/ImmigrationFactSheet.pdf

Neither has done much with their current plans. I haven't seen any legislation from McCain on enforcement, have you? In fact the Federal government has been a failure across the board to do anything at all.

Oh, and by the way, I;m not John E.

Hasta luego!


As a Jew, I am thankful that both political parties and every candidate is supportive of Israel. My preference for any Democrat over any Republican is based on the fact that of the 14 Jews in the Senate, only 2 are Republicans (Specter, and Coleman who only recently acknowledged his religion) and of the 25 Jews in the House, only ONE is a Republican (Cantor of VA). I trust that the Democrats are more committed to Jews/Israel than Republicans and will do a better job of protecting the religious liberties of Jews and the security of Israel.


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