Another video from Obama's church: The Swamp
 
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Posted May 29, 2008 7:22 PM
The Swamp

By John McCormick and Manya A. Brachear, updated

Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign on Thursday was forced to again apologize for the remarks of a Chicago pastor backing his candidacy who spoke from the pulpit of his longtime church.

"As I have traveled this country, I've been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that that unites us," Obama said in a statement. "That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger's divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn't reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause."

In another YouTube video making the rounds on the Internet, the Rev. Michael Pfleger, an outspoken activist Catholic priest and pastor, is seen mocking Sen. Hillary Clinton last Sunday from the pulpit of Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's South Side.

"When Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don't believe it was put on," Pfleger said. "I really believe that she just always thought this is mine. I'm Bill's wife, I'm white and this is mine. I just gotta get up and step into the plate and then out of nowhere came, 'Hey, I'm Barack Obama' and she said, 'Oh, damn. Where did you come from? I'm white. I'm entitled. There's a black man stealing my show."

Pfleger, speaking as a guest at the church, then mocks Clinton's tears. "She wasn't the only one crying. There was a whole lot of white people crying. I'm sorry. I don't want to get you in any more trouble."

The church has been Obama's spiritual home for years and also triggered a controversy earlier this spring over remarks made by Obama's longtime pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

Pfleger, a longtime friend of Wright's and Obama's, could not immediately be reached for comment.

But he issued his own statement of apology for the remarks on Thursday. "I regret the words I chose Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Sen. Obama's life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Sen. Clinton or anyone else who saw them," he said in statement released by his church, St. Sabina.

In a Tribune story a year ago, Obama defended special earmarks for his district in state budgets while he was a state legislator, including one that went to programs associated with Pfleger's church.

"It happens that there were major supporters in my district who had been supporters before they got member initiatives," Obama said then, noting that some of his contributors had been his allies for years.

Pfleger gave Obama's campaign $1,500 between 1995 and 2001, including $200 in April 2001, about three months after Obama announced $225,000 in grants to St. Sabina programs.

In that story, Pfleger said he made those donations personally, not on behalf of the church or to win grants. "At a time when less people vote than ever, I don't think pastors should be silent on politics," he said.

The video shows Obama's current pastor, Rev. Otis Moss III, introducing Pfleger. Obama has not attended the church since the controversy over Wright erupted in mid-March.

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Aren't the people at the Chicago Children's Museum proud to have Rev. Pfleger as one of their chief spokesmen? When he speaks of racial divisions, he should look in a mirror and he'll see one of the chief dividers.


Five years ago, the Cardinal attempted to remove Pfleger from his parish at the same time he transferred another pastor because of the Archdiocese's 12-year rule for a pastor. Pfleger pressured his way to stay and the Cardinal backed down. Now the Catholic Church is left with this embarrassment still in place.


Please be careful of your tongues. there is a time to zip everything. Just bring more controversy for others. Unnecessary apologies. Sen. Clinton is a human being, let us respect her. Rev. Wright is a human being, let us respect everyone.


Actually, everything this Pastor said is true...


Well done, sir!


i'm catholic...i'm a democrat...i'm voting for obama...this man does not speak for me and he does not represent me.


I certainly will not be voting for Obama. The fact that he attends a racist church is but one of the reasons. Just look at how the congregation is laughing and cheering him on. What an embarrassment. How can anyone believe that Obama is not the same way?


According to a Christian Science Monitor story from last year, Barry O’s known Pfleger since his early days in Chicago. Funny how these longtime acquaintances of Obama's keep “surprising” him with incendiary racial rhetoric.


I am Catholic & originally from Chgo. so I'm somewhat familiar with Father Pfleger & the good his done. However,
if I was sitting in "any" church & heard this rhetoric I'd be out of there promptly. It's amazing how for plus 20 years Obama doesn't rememer what Rev. Wright spoke but he sure jumped on it now. Hmmm, & Obama was able to get a $225,00 grant for St. Sabina's. Very interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I "was" a supporter for Obama.


Who does one call to start the revocation of the tax exempt status of Father Pleger's sexist, anti-white church?


Wow!! The children of the corn strikes again. Patheic. Obama cannot unite this party. Enough damaged has been done by him, his supporters, his pastor(s) and his wife.
Bye bye Noobama in November.


Pfleger's nothing more than a rabble-rousing fool. The very worst kind of self-appointed "community leader", whose inflated ego far outweighs any good intentions he has.


More foot in mouth disease from the pulpit to back up Gaffe Obama. It's enough to make one vote Republican.


Rev. Pfleger is really helping Sen. Clinton, if you take the entire USA into consideration..


And the pattern continues. Is there any doubt left now that either Obama a) Agrees with the hateful garbage taught in that church week after week, or b) is just another politician who went to that hateful church to get street credit with the black community for his political gain?


Pfleger says he knows whats in Hillary Clinton's mind; he knows that she opposes Barak Obama simply because he is Black. So now he's God?
For any cleric to fan the flames of racial bigotry in this way is disgusting, and obviously more sinful than a "civilian" doing the same. He should be stripped of his Pastorship for this.
I suspect that his apology came at the order by Cardinal George. That's at least one good thing about Catholicism -- there's somebody in command who has the authority to say "hey shut up, stupid" and make it stick.


TOO FUNNY


Fr. Flakey continues to be an embarrassment. This time it's not only to his church, but also to the candidate he thought he was helping.


And Dems wonder why HRC supporters are loathe to support Obama...


The part about these videos that unnerves me more than the "guests" is Barack Obama's congregation in the background.

I have absolutely nothing in common with those "Christians" who think this is funny, loving, or/and forgiving. Yet, if we say anything, Obama implies that we are all a bunch of ignorant, bitter racists.

I simply can never vote for this man. If BHO's supporters think Clinton supporters will conclude that John McCain is worst than the people BHO hangs out with, I want some of what he was smoking back there in Hawaii.


Just another example of the astounding hypocrisy of certain elements of the black community. I can't imagine what they are thinking when they shoot themselves in the foot, time after time. Are they really for Obama or are they trying to sabotage his candidacy for some perverse reason?


...Obama defended special earmarks for his district in state budgets while he was a state legislator, including one that went to programs associated with Pfleger's church.
"At a time when less people vote than ever, I don't think pastors should be silent on politics," Pfleger said.
This is a controversy likely to be overlooked. Have either of these guys checked the US Constitution? I believe there's something in there about separation of church and state.


Yvette--are you an obama koolaid drinker? Do you NOT SEE that this is the END of his campaign?
The incivility from the get go with Michelle making fun of Hillary--in fact, most of Obama's GAINS were by TRASHING the only 2 term dem pres. (Clinton) and Hillary was instrumental in getting him elected.
With the black nationalist 'we hate whitey' sentiment POURING out of the HQ and the CHURCH of the Obama 'movement' (like 200,000 people CAUCUSING IN IOWA tell us ANYTHING) it is obvious that it's over.
Now, before you go NUTS--Obama can be a veep candidate--but he MUST FIRE ALL OF HIS CAMPAIGN STAFF and MERGE into the Clinton op.
This will give him and Michelle time to deprogram themselves and their kids (maybe it's all that NICOTINE--addicts can be very mean people) from the CRAP ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE as an aggregate.
Let the Obamas LEARN to TOLERATE people who disagree with them SLIGHTLY about things for the next 8 years as HILLARY HEALS AMERICA.
What exactly did the obama kids disllike about the 90s anyway--the peace or the prosperity?
And next time--the Al Gores of the world need to STAY LOYAL--had Gore run with Clinton--WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD SEPTEMBER 11 AND WE SURE AS HELL WOULDN'T BE IN IRAQ BECAUSE A PRESIDENT LIED TO THE MEDIA AND PREZ AND MEDIA PRESSURED CONGRESS TO GO INTO IRAQ.
WAKE THE HELL UP AND LET'S TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK.


Dorcas--the Catholic Church knows what it's doing:
Pfleger is 'steam control'---distracts the black community from the REAL enemy--republicans--and the REAL threat--Obama's candidacy.
Obama on the top of the ticket GUARANTEES John McCain.
Pfleger has done his work for the Catholic Church with this little piece of strategically placed poison.
How shameful.
How non-productive.
How strategic.


Ah, I love those swift-boaters and the Ridiculous Republicans, they are so fair-minded and democratic. They win by lie, innuendo and sound bytes, while their elected official, President Bush lied to get us into a war and has allowed our troops to go to war, ill-equipped and serve in Baghdad to the point of exhaustion !! Who cares ? It seems like nobody does, they just go on and squabble about a bad PR book or sound bytes from a priest that doesn't speak for the good Senator Obama !! Is this what our troops, dying and being maimed in Baghdad, mean to us ?!! Shame on you, America, for tolerating such ineptness and disregard for our men and women in uniform !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM BACK, ALIVE. NOW.


I thought Christianity was supposed to promote love and peace. The destructive, malicious and divisive commentaries delivered by the Reverends Pfleger, Wright and Hagee, to name a few, are breathtaking in light of the longstanding esteem in which they're held by their hordes of Christian followers. This scenario of the preacher making the inflammatory comments and then begging for forgiveness is all too familiar and my ability to offer forgiveness is waning. I no longer think absolution alone is appropriate for these longstanding theologians. Condemnation from their respective churches and then forced resignations are the only appropriate penalty for this egregious abuse of the pulpit. My tolerance of the Obama campaign has also waned to the point where my vote will now be cast toward someone other than Senator Obama (but not John McCain).


Unless I am wrong, Barack Obama attends this church, he doesn't run it's daily operations, book the speakers, etc. Did he approve this speaker and his message beforehand?

I can't see why he even had to apologize for this garbage - what exactly did he have to do with it?

Man, people have nothing on Barack Obama, so they will pick on any crumb, no matter how small or far removed it is from him, and use it as an attack. Karl Rove politics at its finest. I know we're all used to it, but we can break the cycle if we try.


The comments about Hillary are right on the mark. She's a spoiled rich (rhymes with witch) who thinks she's entitiled because she "paid her dues by backing hubby Billy through all his trysts with bimbos. The Clintons are such a "family" of egomaniacs.


Manya Brachear has demonstrated her skills as a reporter again.

she's a good reporter.

she covered sabeel when they were in town in 2005 and she figured naim ateek out quick.


This is much ado about nothing.

That said, Pfleger has clearly always been in love with the sound of his own voice.

The Catholics who dissed Cardinal George for backing down when he wanted to transfer Pfleger to another parish better watch what you wish for. Heck, they might send him to be pastor of a church in Lake Forest or Hinsdale.

Lastly, in response to one blogger's handle who posted at 9:15 PM: I just last month reread Bonfire of the Vanities. What a classic. You have very good taste in books.


I thought it says somewhere in the bible or Christ said it..."Only God can judge us". Where does these bozo's get off making these statements behind the pulpit? Let the bozo's on Fox News and CNN make them and focus on more productive matters. I guess that is why I don't waste my time at Church...I don't need a middle man to connect with God.


May 29th,
2008

This deranged priest does not represent the thinking of the entire Roman Catholic Church, only a small part of it that seems to be still stuck in the heretical doctrines of Jesuit Liberation Theology.
Believe me, he will receive his fifteen minutes of fame as letters go to his bishop, his cardinal and his Pope.
If this priest wants to make such hate filled remarks in a non catholic church, especially a church in which the theology is not necessarily christian, he should be doing it in his own street clothes, without his collar, so he does not mis represent the teachings of the Holy Roman Catholic Church and misdirect potential converts.
Moreover, if he chooses to say that his remarks in now way represent Obama’s views, again, his priorities are incorrect. He should be apologising to Our Lord and to the Holy Mother of God FIRST.

And if Cardinal George cannot get this bozo under control I guess I will write the Vatican. Perhaps the Cardinal needs help. And it is frustrating to me that this will be the second letter I have had to write to the Vatican about priests in the Chicago Diocese who refuse to listen to their Cardinal.
The last time it was to Cardinal Ratzinger and it was eight years ago now.
You priests in this Diocese- one more time I ask you- if you are going to publicly preach that which completely misrepresents the teachings of the Church, TAKE YOUR COLLARS OFF.
Excuse me, Fathers? Do you really really believe that God is spending a lot of time counting our delegate votes in the hopes that Obama will beat Clinton? Any possibility He might have something bigger on his mind?
We can see that you don't.
I'm so glad I'm voting for McCain. I voted for Obama in our California primary. But I'm afraid I cannot stand his friends nor can I tolerate his constant denunciation of them.


as a catholic, i find this conduct embarrassing. i don't think this has anything to do with Obama, but the archdiocese definitely needs to step in when a priest is spreading divisive hate speech -- what did this have to do with Christianity?


1940's - Laurel and Hardy.

1950's - Abbott and Costello.

1960's - Rowan and Martin.

2000's - Wright and Pfleger.


More red meat for the retards at FOX NOISE. Ridiculous. The GOP sure will go to any length to smear Obama.


How can you apologize for someone else's comments? Words carry power, The only reason they are sorry is that the rants were caught on video, if they had not be caught on video there would not have been an apology, so, they are apologizing for having been caught putting voice to the anti-white hatred they wear like a badge. B.H. Obama has chosen to surround himself with these people, either he is really blind to the racists he has around him, or he is lying. Sad in either case.


Since Obama isn't Roman Catholic, he can't be a parishoner of St. Sabina's. What a misleading headline! This is the videotape of someone Obama knows, who supports Obama's candidacy, but he's certainly not Obama's pastor. Unless Obama underwent a conversion to Catholicism in the last week that no one reported on, that is.
This is a non-story.


Hillary's assisination gaffe didn't get legs to hurt Obama, so she's paying off the church to take another hit at Obama. You know the Clintons gave Rev. Wright 5M to do Obama in at the Press Club. If the Prist made those comments last Sunday, why is it news today. Funny, the Democrats are meeting this Saturday Hillary will try to break the rules to get the nomination. She's doubleing-down-the Prist now and the planned protest Saturday. I'll be surprised if she stays in the Senate when she looses the nomination.


When does Obama stop apologizing, and just ADMIT he's a RACIST like the rest of his associates?

If you come from a DEN of flaming RACISTS, and you STAYED in the den for more than 20 years, when does it become apparent YOU are one of them?

Obama is UNELECTABLE on a NATIONAL level, and has been since March.


What the Catholic priest said is absolutely correct. Wasn't Hillary the one who said hard working, white people vote for her. Isn't she the racist?


The part about these videos that unnerves me more than the "guests" is Barack Obama's congregation in the background.
I have absolutely nothing in common with those "Christians" who think this is funny, loving, or/and forgiving.

Jan, check out a southern baptist church sometime. That is, if they'll let you in the door. They don't like anyone who has skin color, who wears a beard, or might be a "humanist".


Father Pfleger has stepped over the line and has lost any remaining credibility that he once had. It is time for the Cardinal to remove Father Pfleger so that it will be clear that the Catholic Church does not tolerate divisive rhetoric.

The whole Father Pfleger speech is not a true Christian message and it is time to take action.


Aren't there very clear rules regarding not for profits remaining out of political side taking in order to maintain that not for profit status? Hmmmmm....


I believe that Obama genuinely rejects people like Pfleger and Wright. However, Obama is trying to please all of the people all of the time. It truly shows how naive and inexperienced he is. That's why he can't connect with the "average Joe". He only clicks with the young idealistic college kid or the intellectual type. He's not in touch with reality.


What an embarrasment.
What message from God was the "reverend" trying to present? I don't know how these people that give these kind of sermons can be sanctioned by any legitimate church.

What is crazy is all of the ranting and raving behind him by the choir.

This was done in a "house of God".

Please.
What a disgrace.

Interesting bit of by the reporter to point out the money flow of state to church and church to state.... at least from the pastor to obama.


Funny, crude with an element of truth but, overall, harmless. Take a breath people! Eight years ago America survived the frequent "bimbo eruptions" of Bill Clinton, which had to do with personal behavior, and still elected their Democratic standard bearer. It looks like, in this election cycle, America's going to have to get used to "pastoral eruptions," from the left and the right. It's known as free speech but, this time, it's not speech that's coming from the candidate--either Senator Obama or Senator McCain. Get over it already!

SM Jenkins


Seriously - do you think this is NOT going to affect BO's image with people??
Sorry, anyone pretending otherwise is simply engaging in wishful thinking.


Father Flakey is now a NATIONAL media hound???


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!


Many liberal suburban Chicago Catholic pastors refused to allow pro-life political activism in their church parking lots, saying that they feared it might jeopardize their 501(c)3 tax exempt status.

This was blatant electioneering from the pulpit/

Where is the sheepish Cardinal George?

Where is the IRS?


Iknew Pfleger was good for at least one of these videos during the campaign. Like Wright the man is a shameless self-promoter and never met a camera he didn't like. Thank goodness the democrats are nominating a guy with POS friends like Pfleger and Wright who in their own warped minds actually think they're doing God's work. God put people like Pfleger and Wright on Earth because he loves republicans.


Fr. Flakey is notorious in the Catholic churchbut he is also anything but stupid. He did not risk the tax exempt status of his parish or the Catholic Church because he did not preach IN a Catholic church as a leader of the Catholic faith.


Start the clock: Phleger's days of being able to speak freely are numbered. Over the past couple decades, the Vatican has silenced, removed and/or defrocked radically left-wing priests and nuns who become engaged in politics or political movements (yeah, I know - no need to point out the irony of this & the pedophile priests).


THE PRIEST SHOULD BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR THE MOLESTING COLLEAGUES HE HAS HAD AND NOT BE INVOLVE D IN POLITICS--HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BLACK WAN-NA BE!!


I wonder if Catholics will have to apologize for Fr. Pfleger's behavior. I don't go to his church but I've gone to a Catholic Church for 20 years and since Catholics believe we are all unified this must mean I somehow knew what Fr. Pfleger was all about and now I'm going to have to apologize to all of my white female friends.

Whew! When will this ever end?


Oh, and all the crazy lefties saying that everything Pfleger said was right, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP SAYING THAT!
Could you also forward this string to a friend in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, West Virginia or Florida, too?


I'm afraid it is the Obama camp who has embraced the Karl Rovian tactics of slander your opponent through someone's comments and then plead innocence. It worked for George W. Bush and it is apparently working for Senator Obama. The media never questioned Bush and his cronies for the past 7 years (and look at the wonderful state we are in) and now they have given the same free pass to Senator Obama. I can't vote for someone who is treated as if they are beyond reproach. My issue is less with the Senator himself but more with those powerful elected officials and media pundits who are unable or unwilling to say the emperor is not wearing any clothes. I would never vote for John McCain either.


I'm afraid it is the Obama camp who has embraced the Karl Rovian tactics of slander your opponent through someone's comments and then plead innocence. It worked for George W. Bush and it is apparently working for Senator Obama. The media never questioned Bush and his cronies for the past 7 years (and look at the wonderful state we are in) and now they have given the same free pass to Senator Obama. I can't vote for someone who is treated as if they are beyond reproach. My issue is less with the Senator himself but more with those powerful elected officials and media pundits who are unable or unwilling to say the emperor is not wearing any clothes. I would never vote for John McCain either.



Just another tid bit of of Obama's racist friends....and don't forget William Ayers and his terrorist friends.

Yep....stay tuned, this guy, Obama, is a disaster. You dopey dems really know how to pick 'em.

Paulo


Let's see, on Obama's friends & mentor list: Rev. Wright, Rev. Pfieger, Ayers, Dohn, Rezko.

Then a potential Obama presidency receives a thumbs up from Hamas & Castro.

Thank you Chicago for sticking us with this guy.


Why is the Father speaking with what sounds like a deep south accent at times? Is he from the south, or is it just his way of talking down to some one else's level? If it is it is pathetic!


I'm an Obama supporter, but .. God I can't stand "Snuffy" Pfleger. Thanks for repudiating that jerk, Barack.


The comments of Rev. Wright aside, please tell me why anything that comes out of the mouth of Fr. Phleger should be, or is considered, the voice of the black people and Barack Obama?

He's white. He's a visiting speaker. He's an idiot. Sorry, God, but you messed this one up, royally.


The comments of Rev. Wright aside, please tell me why anything that comes out of the mouth of Fr. Phleger should be, or is considered, the voice of the black people and Barack Obama?

He's white. He's a visiting speaker. He's an idiot. Sorry, God, but you messed this one up, royally.


What is it with Trinity attracting buffoons? You couldnt get worse racists if you were able to develop an actual 'Racist Magnet'. Is it something in the water there?


I swear it's like playing with my cat with the laser pointer. So easily sidetracked and the same trick just keeps working. Ok, this has gotten old. Truthfully, if it didn't come from the candidates mouth, whether it be Obama or Clinton, or McCain I don't care. You hear? I don't care. This guilt by association crap has gotten old. I think everyone needs to take a look in the mirror and honestly ask yourself if you have been in the company of people from your race and heard them say things you didn't like. Then ask yourself were you the "up-standing citizen" you expect these candidates to be and put a stop to it or did you just nervously chuckle along with it or even pretend to agree just to fit in and not feel like the odd one out. Please save the "higher standard" BS, they are human like you.
Again, let's focus on what these candidates are actually saying from their own mouths. What are their visions for where this country is going. As long as we pay attention to the media who is the true source of all this drama we won't get anywhere. That goes for both parties. I think it's safe to say that Republicans and Democrats alike are fed up with how this country has been run over the past 8 years and we really need to keep our eye on the ball this time. That means being focused and not letting the media side track us (again, and again, and again, and again, and again.......).


Fr Pfleger is not a man of God. He is a man filled with hate and the desire to be in the spot life. Why does Obama hang out with men like him, Wright, Ayers, Rezko....
No way will I ever vote for Obama again!


What????? Holy Mother of God!
Fox can't play the video enough. Believe me, as I tell you; it will receive more than fifteen minutes on FIXED NEWS. I’ve seen it already today and tonight more than enough. Father Pfleger is a respected priest in Chicago.

I respect and admire Barack even more so for not allowing this type of characterization.

Questions:
1. Why does Fox keep their cameras at Trinity Church?

2. Why do they harass/interview and stalk the Church members to ascertain where Barack was in hopes of calling Barack a liar? Or could it be a gotcha moment?

3. Why must FIXED NEWS harass members in hospices in order to prove Barack was at the Church during the time Fox played for the world Rev. Wright’s video all day, everyday?
4. Are you going to claim Father Pfleger a racist, Muslim, or Marxist?

5. Why did the current Bush lie to us about Iraq?

6. Why did John McCain say we don't have to go to war for oil anymore?
7. Why are we paying $4.00 for gas?

8. If we invade Iran, how much will we pay for gas then?
Why are body bags coming back in thousands over a lie?

Wolf- man what a hypocrite and loser you are. How dare you not advise Hillary to apologize to Barack for suggesting assassination!
Enough is umhh, enough. Father Pfleger’s name is not on the ballot.

Ummhh, I think, Father Pfleger’s gaffe is a pimple on the universe.

Posted by: Beverly in Chicago | May 30, 2008 12:35 AM


Pfleger has been there ever since I went to college there sooo many years ago. He was a sickening pain then as now.

What is more pathetic than a light in his loafers white man trying to talk and preach black? He is such a clown. He has no self-respect. People laugh at him. Now he is trying to imitate a woman. What's next Pfleger, the altar boys? Or have you had them already?

Drop dead, you old queen.


Father Pfleger told the truth, bottom line. It is NOT a reflect on Senator Obama, if someone in his church [or anywhere else] who supports him makes a comment that his opposition doesn't like. He doesn't book speakers at Trinity, nor does he proof their sermons before its spoken. GIVE HIM A BREAK. HE'S GOING TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY, and you are welcome to GO BACK TO EUROPE [or where ever].


One thing I know for sure is you won't meet father phleger in heaven anytime soon.He stands against chritian teachings and takes pleasure in dystroying whomever he disagrees with. I've watched this man destroy small shopowners and bully the city with extortion second only to jesse jackson.


Another racist O supporter surfaces, what a surprise. In addition to supporting O, this so called priest also supports drug dealers and prostitutes. His contribution to his "adopted" community -- getting rid of advertisements he considered racist. Get a clue, no one would spend a dime on advertising if the sales weren't there to support it, so who exactly are you protecting and from what? Don't people have the right to make their own choices?


Check this Pfleger guy out: He's white, but speaks in Ebonics. He's a man of the cloth, yet is getting involved in politics. He preaches the Gospel, but then goes on personal attacks.

Father Michael Pfleger, you appear to be more Pharisee than Apostle.


Father Pfleger is again sticking his foot in his mouth. I could not believe this wacko


This is insanity! Pfleger, Trinity Church, and Obama belong together. Obama does not belong in the White House, or representing the State of Illinois.


made thos


Unless I am wrong, Barack Obama attends this church, he doesn't run it's daily operations, book the speakers, etc. Did he approve this speaker and his message beforehand?

I can't see why he even had to apologize for this garbage - what exactly did he have to do with it?

Man, people have nothing on Barack Obama, so they will pick on any crumb, no matter how small or far removed it is from him, and use it as an attack. Karl Rove politics at its finest. I know we're all used to it, but we can break the cycle if we try.

Posted by: Susan | May 29, 2008 9:50 PM

Because Susan, he attended this church for 20 years, he got married there, his children were baptized there. And time and time again now that it has been exposed, they show nothing but hatred and anger, far from the true beliefs of Christianity, whether it be from a white church or a black church. It is a church of hatred and anger and does not reflect the true teachings of Christ.


What I thought was quite amusing was a white Roman Catholic priest trying to tell it like a black Protestant "preacher".
Sorry padre you just ain't got the anointing!


Another Obama OOOPS moment! Every day it seems like he is apologizing for one thing or another. We've had the REZKO real estate deal, the Rev Wright incident, Michelle's American Pride moment, the racist comment about his white grandmother and the rural white population of Pennsylvania, the Rev. Fleger speech, the imaginary uncle that freed Auschwitz, etc etc etc. As "Barry" becomes more thoroughly vetted more and more apologies seemed to be forthcoming.


Pfleger, aka Vanilla Priest, is nothing but a paleface wannabe gang-banger. If the Catholic church could get rid of Father Francis Lawler in the 1960s, you can't tell me that they can't move this bigoted punk.


Time and again this "priest" spouts generalized hatred. The other "priest" obviously welcomes him , as do many members of that congregation.
If he, or anyone else, keeps screaming inflammatory remarks in general about ANY group of people in general, doesn't that , by definition, make him a bigot?


Birds of a feather.... As if this is not enough to dissuade voting for obama, can anyone from illinois name ONE thing that he as done to better the state? ONE bill that he has written that has had an impact? And he is a candidate to run the freaking country?? Please! He is a puppet of the Daley machine, a machine that pimps out these "reverends" for votes. Wake up and smell the coffee...its burnt. God help us if Obama makes it to the white house and invites these so called "reverends" to the capital!


Father Mike is as solid as they come. All you naysayers should put a sock in it, and Obama should stop apologizing for the obvious truth. Of course, he cannot endorse such words, but my god. Pfeger said it-- Obama did not. Have a little more "backbone", Senator Obama.

Just think, if Hillary Clinton would have closed her "circus act" by now, maybe Pfleger would not have had a comment to espouse on the matter. Helllllllo!

Though seemingly mean-spirited and hurtful, and hence unfortunate, I still personally believe that there is an element of truth to his words. As I have said all along, I believe that although Clinton was certainly well qualified (not more) and a formidable candidate at the start, her posture around much of this, and especially of late, has been as if she felt that she was "entitled" to the nomination based on who she is.

Is there any other reason why she continues this nonsense? Anyone else would have already been pummeled to the ground by the Party, but no, not Senator Clinton. Please Read This: YOU LOST! No go sit! I know it hard, but it is true.

Why is it so hard? Any fool know that there is a "pecking order" of power in this country, and one thing is for sure--white men come first, then white women. This has been a "shock for the ages"--Obama rise, I mean. Maybe America is maturing afterall.

And shame on the so-called "super delegates" who jumped on her bandwagon so early on--now only to switch--what a waste of time!

And Hillary Clinton's stupid pride is prolonging this mess. Her behavior is proof.



Can you even imagine this kind of behavior going on in the White House if Obama is elected? There is a genuine sense of arrogance with all of Obama's people; it's truly amazing. How is this guy going to even get out of the starting gate to deal with the REAL issues like the war, economy, energy policy and domestic isses when he cannot get control of his own house. He is a junior Senator, He has little legislative experience or accomplishments. But he is a smart guy...too smart to let this happen. He should take the position of power in the Senate, wait his eight years, pass some legislation (get some experience), fix his personal life, let HRC fix the country's issues and then run in 2016. Otherwise, we're all screwed for another four years.


Pathetic. They're all pathetic. Clinton, McCain, Obama, these fiery racist pastors, the racists who believe these sermons, etc. Unfortunately, America has degenerated into a dark cesspool of insulated egotists while the rest of the world truly suffers. We spend more time pointing the finger and hating each other than we do trying to work together to find real solutions. I wish I could stop the world and get off.


Barack and Michelle have been attending this church for years.
They claim to have never heard any outrageous statements by anyone in this church nor have they read anything the Reverend Wright written.
I believe they are not telling the truth.
He is not fit to be the leader of the United States.
We need Hillary.


$225K in grants from the state to St. Sabina??? I thought all thelibs believed in the sepration of church and state?

The thing that should trouble Obama aren't the comments, those who know of Father Flakey would expect this. The disturbing thing is the reaction of the congregation. They are just eating up the father's racist sermon. These are Barack's fellow congregants. You are judged by the company you keep.


Is this guy for real? Does he always talk like this, or does he change his mannerisms and his accent depending on his audience? For that matter, this seems less like a church than the Jerry Springer show.


This "white entitlement" thingy has gotten completely out of hand. Pfleger talks like we're all spiritually descended from Simon Legree. I'd really like to talk to him and explain things - I'm 3 generations from shoeless on my dad's side, and my mom's relatives in Europe grow their own crops and slaughter their own pigs. The Obamas have way more money than I do, and I don't begrudge them that. They also went to better schools. I really don't understand this at all.


The Catholic Church does not allow women clergy. Can you imagine how the powerful men would feel about a woman president? Well, this priest can. His attacks on Senator Clinton in favor of a male candidate are simply the directives of his church which does not think women should have any role in life but as church ladies. Sen. Obama's powerful male supporters agree--Edwards,Richardson,Kerry, Dodd, Michael Moore.
Women need not apply.


I'm just waiting for Burt Natarus to say something that Obama needs to apologize for.

I don't understand why people would go to churches where there is talk like this. Not because it is racist but because what does Hillary Clinton's campaign have to do with religion? These guys are pastors acting like pundits!


I've watched the video at least a dozen times. This guy's a SCREAM! He didn't say anything that wasn't basically true. It's just a really funny video.


I am from the SOUTHSIDE of Chicago. Father Pfleger once gave a very fiery Martin Luther King Jr. Day address at - NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY! That's right people - NU that bastion of upper crust! He is not some quack running around being racist! You see, he understands the black church and the struggles for EQUALITY. His sermon spoke to the injustice that Barack has certainly gone through with Mrs. ENTITLEMENT. Thats right I said it AGAIN. NO ONE deserves the right to talk about the Clintons like black people. We benefited from them being in the whitehouse, but the LORD knows we backed them and EARNED everything we got. What is said in a lot of black churches speaks to our hurts, pains and injustices! Its how we build ourselves up and go back out into this world everyday and TAKE IT, TAKE IT, TAKE IT everyday. For every black person that "makes it" there are 10 thousand that get passed over, left behind and treated with racism. And yes, even Father Pfleger knows that. Before you go and right him off as a white racist that hates whites. Do some homework.

Barack Obama is not about divisions, but one unified America. He is everything he said he was. You heard his speech on racism. That is a man that understands. But dont you for one moment think that black people DONT HURT and feel pain. Or that we don't need Jesus to build us back up every Sunday. Even Barack needs that after Clinton and her folks have TORN him to shreds. How do you think he repairs himself???

The black church has been the balm of our souls and spirit. Yes we speak to our hurts, but those words NEVER have effected ONE WHITE person negatively. NEVER. And the good Lord knows that Clinton deserved a whole lot more than what Barack gave her. But he treated her in a CHRISTIAN fashion.


This is The community Obama ....America no need this kind of Ridicule People...Obama Church is a Judas People...


Maybe it's time to bar cameras at Trinity.


I am surprised that Obama still attends this church.
Hasn't he learned his lesson.

Besides, with all the one sided political speeches at this church shouldnt it loose its tax exempt status (501(c)3)?


Us "angry, bitter" folk are really enraged how Obama and his church continue to ignite controversy with their racist, bigoted remarks. Enough of this Obama-DRAMA- that is all we get with Obama and his merry band of racists. We will now work extra hard to make sure that Obama loses in November. He may have conned the idiots that run the DNC- Pelosi, Reid, Dean etc into thinking that he can unite us but he has done the
EXACT opposite. Hillarys fans -both men and women -are fed up with Obamas church rubbing this in our face and we will not take it anymore. Wait til the Republicans bring out their videos of Michelle trashing white people....all you Obama cheerleaders will be through - once and for all- GOOD RIDDENS !!!


I am so with you Johnny Boy! Let me know where you're getting off and we'll have lunch.


As a catholic from Chicago, everyone here knows Fr. Pfleger (and Wright) are basically the local pulpit "shock jocks." How does this constitute news? The media might as well report on video of mentally afflicted street people's rants while their at it. Here's a tip for reporters: There's a homeless woman on Broadway who knows all the nation's best conspiracies. I'm sure she could really shed some light on these primaries! Here in Chicago we ignore our crazy preachers like we do our street people.


Where is the outrage among Hilalry's supporters about her Robert Kneedy and assassination comment. She regulary attends a church group in Washington DC where the pastor is a huge fan of Hitler. Isn't that the greater issue. Also, this guilt by association is ridiculous. Are all we to be held accountable for the words of all our accquaintances and friends? If that was the case is Hillary in bed with criminals because her brother accepted a huge bribe to get pardons for them when her husband was in office. Is she also responsible for the bimbo eruptions that clouded Bill's reign in office. After all she was much closer to him than Obama is to the Catholic priest.


93 posts about a pastor....and 12 about the possibility that the president lied about leaking a CIA operative. No wonder this country is in the toilet.


If Pfleger is really not a quack, as Keith says, then why is he still at St. Sabina? Cardinal George informed him in 2001 that he was not going to be appointed to a fourth term as he wasn't appointing ANY Priests to consecutive fourth terms to allow new leadership to develop in the archdiocese.
Did Pfleger accept the judgement of his superior and help develop a new leader? NO! He screamed racism like he always does and threatened to leave the church if he wasn't allowed to stay at St. Sabina. That should tell you how important his faith is to him in relation to getting on television and screaming racism. He was willing to use leaving the church as a negotiating cudgel. That really says it all.


Give me a break! you guys..(responders) are such hypocrites! first, does seperation of "church and state" ring a bell...anyone?! lol those of you who are "using" the Rev/Pastor/Father as a way of saying you won't vote for Sen. Obama are ridiculous at best! "YOU" weren't voting for him ANYWAY! you just show your ignorance for all to see........because shouldn't you be looking and reading about "POLICY" not pastors! lol I am in stitches! review your most recent history (bush)..you would prefer to continue "that" legacy! shame on YOU! too many brave ones have lost their lives...too many civil liberties are being taken away (right under our very noses) the economy is going to hell in a hand basket! and yet the uproar is about a few pastors! Get some INTELLIGENCE! and use it to better AMERICA....pay attention to YOUR "elected" officials in your states' don't feed into the "hype" the "distraction"...isn't that what got us into war in Iraq! (the lack of attention to the REAL issues).
-for those of you who believe in God.....you know it is a "personal" relationship between God and yourselves(may God bless u and yours)
--for those who don't believe in God (follow the golden rule..."do unto others as you would have them do unto you!)
Peace&happiness to all!


To those who say Pfleger was just a guest speaker and Obama wasn't there. There has been a long relationship between these two (by the way, Obama removed the Pfleger testimonial from his website):

"Friends and advisers, such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn- Gresham community on the South Side, who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep that compass set, he says.

"I always have felt in him this consciousness that, at the end of the day, with all of us, you've got to face God," Pfleger says of Obama. "Faith is key to his life, no question about it. It is central to who he is, and not just in his work in the political field, but as a man, as a black man, as a husband, as a father.... I don't think he could easily divorce his faith from who he is.""

http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,obamafalsani040504.article

My question is, why has Obama subjected his children to the hatred being spewed from this church?


I also have to ask this: why are the priests in the Chicago Diocese openly, publicly, with hate speech, endorsing a candidate with some of the most radical, pro abortion opinions and pro fetal cell tissue research in the world?
Fr. Pfleger says:
"I regret the words I chose Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Sen. Obama's life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Sen. Clinton or anyone else who saw them,"
Again, Fathers, I say your priorities are out of whack. Fr. Pfleger's words are "inconsistent with Jesus Christ's life and message" and it is the Lord's life and message you have been ordained to preach.


Thank you very much Cardinal George.
Very much.
And since the Catholic Church is a world wide global institution, perhaps it is time for priests around the world to remember they are not isolated in their parishes. What they say and do publicly while wearing their collars may cause significant damage in the parish, or diocese next door or across the country.
Hey, maybe we could begin a day of reflection on THAT FACT.
And again, thank you Cardinal George and thank you also Fr. Pfleger for listening to your Cardinal.


They will talk about the cost of toilet paper before they will discuss the Ridiculous Republicans last 8 years in office. They will lie, fabricate, infer, imply and then, they will lie again, so they don't have to hear how abominable the Bush/Cheney Regime has actually been. Fortunately, the nation knows incompetence when it sees it and hears it and that is all we received from these incompetent Ridiculous Republicans !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE. NOW.


Obama said these comments don't represent his veiws. End of story. Now a real story that we should not take our eye off of, is the continuing tragedy in Iraq. The dead and wounded Americans. The damage to our standing in the world. The corruption of the Bush administration. The continuation of this failed policy should McCain get elected. The fact that political theater is obscuring the issues. THAT IS REAL NEWS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c


No end of story. No period. Not only has Obama courted and enjoyed Pfleger's support since he ran for congress in 2000 but he also secured a $225,000 federal earmark for Pfleger's church. Vow of poverty, sure. Obama and Pfleger are thick as thieves you can beat they both believe in the same ultra-left agenda.


Hey, " Jeff ", 2 TRILLION DOLLARS FOR THE BOONDOGGLE IN BAGHDAD, brought to you by Bush/Cheney and the Ridiculous Republicans !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE. NOW.


Did this guy not notice that he is white too? And who the hell is he to say that about Hillary, I'm so fed up with people trying to use the black white theory. Have people not noticed that Hillary is a