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Posted April 28, 2008 3:28 PM
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by Matthew Hay Brown

Congressional Democrats are ripping into the Supreme Court ruling today that upheld Indiana's requirement that voters show identification before they may cast their ballots.

"The Court's decision today places obstacles to the fundamental rights of American citizens - especially the poor, the elderly, and individuals with disabilities - to participate in the electoral process," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. "Requiring American citizens pay for underlying documents needed for an identification card and travel to distant motor vehicle locations for processing hinders - and diminishes - their right to vote."

A week before the Indiana primary, the court decided 6-3 to uphold a law the state said was necessary to prevent voter fraud. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid called such requirements "roadblocks to democracy."

"The fact that every Republican in the Indiana General Assembly supported this law and every Democrat opposed it speaks volumes about the improper partisan motives behind the photo-ID movement," he said.

Indeed, that divide is mirrored at the federal level: House Republican Leader John Boehner praised the court decision.

"No right carries with it more responsibility - or potential for grave abuse - than the sacred right to vote," he said. "With this ruling, the American people can have renewed faith in their government's ability to conduct fair and honest elections.

"In the world's oldest and most respected democracy, we can never permit those who seek to defraud the electoral process to succeed. These actions would only serve to harm the American people and weaken our democracy. Today's ruling rightfully allows states to safeguard against such destructive abuse."

Reid says the argument isn't over.

"While today's decision denies a facial challenge to the Indiana law, it allows future challenges in which there is more evidence of the harms caused by photo-ID laws," he said.

"As November approaches, Americans must remain vigilant to protect the right to vote in the face of this and other schemes to depress turnout. Voting is the most fundamental right in our democracy because it protects all other rights."

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Congressional action is clearly needed. The last chapter of the updated version of Greg Palast's Armed Madhouse illustrates how Jessie Jackson's plea to 'arrive with five' was subverted in Jacksonville, FL. Working with a BBC TV crew, he found that there was a man with a video camera taking down license plates of Black voters who were then systematically disenfranchised.
These were people who had arrived as soon as the early voting opened at the courthouse.
Hillary supporters, Barack supporters--get ahold of them and any and all Senators you can.
There are some of us who believe 2000 was not the first time the vote was hacked. Perhaps the Gingrich revolution--wasn't a real vote either.
Given the miniscule differrences between Hillary and Barack--this will be a good test to see if the two candidates' teams and supporters can indeed come together for the good of the party, the cause, and democracy in general.


"MOTOR VEHICLE SPEAKS"

WE'VE RAISED THE COST OF A DRIVERS LICENSE.
BORN BEFORE 1964 $150.00, BORN AFTER 1964 $25.00 W/PROOF OF PURCHASE.

WE'VE RAISED THE COST OF RE-REGISTERING YOUR CAR, BORN BEFORE 1964 $200.00 AND PROOF OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE, AND PROOF OF AGE. BORN AFTER 1964 $25.00 W/PROOF OF PURCHASE SEAL.

WE'VE RAISED THE COST TO THE ELDERLY WHO DO NOT USE THE INTERNET TO REREGISTER OR GET A NEW "DRIVERS LICENSE"
$150.00 CONSULTATION FEE $25.00 FREE ON THE "INTERNETS" OR BY AT&T MOTORVEHICLE CALLING CARDS.

WE'VE RAISED OUR FEES IF OVER 65 BLACK, $250.00 AND A "HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE" CERTIFICATE, AND FATHERS FORENSIC DNA, OR BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND HIS FATHERS BIRTH CERTIFICATE. BORN AFTER 1964 $25.00 AND A JOHN MCCAIN "SKYWATCH" FORENSIC DNA TEST!

YOU CAN GET THIS AT YOUR LOCAL "SHERRIFF OFFICE"


Why is it wrong to require folks to show an ID before they vote? The only reason anyone would be against this is if they were more interested in voter fraud, something that runs rampant in Democratic circles. I see no problems with requiring people to show they are who they came they are when voting. Checking into a hotel room? Show an ID. Getting on an airplane? Show an ID. Vote? Show an ID!!


"...voter fraud, something that runs rampant in Democratic circles."

No it doesn't.


Wah, wah, wah. The dems are all for this whenever it's for driver licensing or any other issue. They are totally AGAINST showing ID, though, when it comes to voting. Could it be because they can't have Daley-style elections and other fraud helping them when ID is required to vote.


Reid and Pelosi are over the top. An Indiana ID costs $13 and is good for 6 years. If you can't afford 2 bucks a year, you have bigger problems than voting. As for having to "travel" to a DMV to get an ID every 6 years, give me a break. You also have to "travel" to the polling place to vote. Is that also a hindrance to the right to vote? States have a right to verfiy who you are before you cast a vote. If Pelosi or Reid have a better system than State IDs/Drivers Licenses, I would like to hear it. God forbid they actually do their job and come up with an idea to strike a balance between two legitiate interests. It's far easier to sit back and whine.


John D-

Requiring a document which one must pay a fee to obtain, constitutes an indirect poll tax, which would violate the 24th Amendment.

That's the principal involved. What if some state makes the fee to get a state ID or drivers license $500? or $5000? It means tests voting rights.


How does this effect absentee voting?

Why not just make the ID's free?


Jeff,

"Daley-style elections and other fraud helping them ..."

Site some proof - put up or shut up.


I see Doug Zook is still the obnoxious idiot. He's like a soap opera - you can miss his ramblings for a month and find out you haven't missed anything.

How is it that this guy sits on the computer all day long posting- don't you have a job? WAIT A MINUTE- are you a government employee? Is that why you have so much time on your hands to show how stupid you are ???


The lies of left will not stop.....

Five seconds of research will inform you that the cost to obtain an ID in Indiana for voting is.... FREE!
http://www.in.gov/bmv/3378.htm

There is no poll tax. Perhaps that is why they couldn't find a single Indiana voter impacted by this law.


you can't fix stupid,

That was profound. May I quote you?

Why it's almost like you wrote something.

And on point too, too boot! Well done!


Doug Zook, are you serious? Here ya go: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Legalissues/lm23.cfm

If Nixon would've done what Gore did in 2000 in 1960 (tried to use the courts to force a selective recount in Chicago) there can be little doubt that Illinois would've gone to the republicans. But because Nixon didn't want to create the constitutional crisis Gore did, he conceded.

Some quotes: "On December 14, 1984, Chief Judge Frank Mc­Garr of the U.S. District Court for the Northern Dis­trict of Illinois publicly released the federal grand jury's report on the 1982 election—only the third time in the history of the court that a grand jury report had been made public.[15] The evidence re­vealed substantial vote fraud in Chicago during the November 2, 1982, election and found "that similar fraudulent activities have occurred prior to 1982."[16]

What particularly struck FBI agent Ernest Locker was how routine vote fraud was for the pre­cinct captains, election judges, poll watchers, and political party workers he interviewed. They had been taught how to steal votes (and elections) by their predecessors, who had in turn been taught by their predecessors. Based on his investigation, Locker came to believe the claims, hotly debated among historians, that Mayor Daley threw the 1960 presidential election for John Kennedy with massive ballot stuffing in Chicago.[17] This type of voter fraud, stated Locker, "was an accepted way of life in Chicago."[18]


Don't any of you also wonder why those pesky sequoia voting machines just CAN'T seem to get their returns in until the next morning the night of an election whenever a Stroger's on the ballot, too? I'd better quit now. I'm starting to sound too much like a democrat. Nixon did the right thing and accepted the results of the election in '60. It would've taken a Gore-style selective recount of certain counties with "voter intention" to overturn that election. Still, the elections from the '80s and other evidence show a clear pattern of election fraud had been going on for decades in Chicago elections prior to 1990.


Here's some more evidence for you about the rampant abuse discovered in the 1982 Chicago elections, Doug Hussein.

Bonus: 80,000 illegal aliens voted democrat in the 1982 Chicago elections, ahh Daley

Preying on the Disabled and Elderly
The evi­dence showed that the conspirators evaded detec­tion by casting ballots for those persons who would be the most unlikely to challenge the theft of their franchise. In the Seventh Circuit's Olinger decision, for example, the court described how the votes of elderly and handicapped voters who lived at a residential facility were stolen in a special absen­tee election:

Hicks [the Democratic Party precinct captain] told the election judges that the residents of Monroe Pavillion were "crazy." He instructed appellant and the other election judges to ignore the wishes of the residents. Instead, the election judges were told to "punch 10" on the computerized ballot for every resident. Punching 10 on the ballot resulted in a vote for each of the Democratic candidates on the ballot. On October 30, 1982, appellant and the other election judges, with Hicks in attendance, conducted the special election at Monroe Pavillion. In over two hours of voting, approximately 52 residents voted. Appellant and the other election judges cast nearly all of those votes for the straight Democratic Party ticket by punching 10.[28]

As described in the Olinger decision, votes of the elderly and disabled were regularly stolen at the residences where they lived. Their wishes were ignored, and the judges of election, under instructions from the precinct captain, punched a straight Democratic ticket. Most significantly, several Assistant State's Attorneys served as elec­tion observers but did not detect the fraud because they "believed it was the job of the judges of election to assist the voters and accu­rately register their choices for candidates." They failed to realize, however, that these "assistors" were actually ignoring the voters' preferences.[29]

Impersonating Absent Voters
The dominant form of vote fraud was accomplished with ballots cast for absent voters.[30] The fraud often began with the legally required canvasses conducted in many precincts prior to the election:

Although the canvass disclosed that a number of persons who were registered to vote in the precinct had died, moved away, or for some other reason had become ineligible to vote, these persons were not struck from the list of eligible voters. Finally on election day the defendants, either personally or by acting through others, caused numerous false ballots to be cast for the straight Democratic ticket.[31]

On the day of the general election, dishonest precinct captains kept careful track of who came to the polls to vote. Runners working for the precinct captains not only supplied rides for voters, but also noted "who would not be coming to the polls because they were too sick, were too drunk, had recently moved away, or had died."

Precinct captains supplied the names of those absent voters to other participants in the fraud, and "ballots either were punched on the voting machines by people posing as the voter, or were punched with ball point pens or other similar objects in a private place outside the polling areas by the precinct captain or his workers."[32] Some of the defendants even "went into washrooms, where they practiced forging the signatures" of those whom they believed would not vote.[33]

Registering Aliens. Aliens who were illegally registered were another source of potential votes "for the unscrupulous precinct captain." The grand jury found that many aliens "register to vote so that they can obtain documents identifying them as U.S. citizens" and had "used their voters' cards to obtain a myriad of benefits, from social security to jobs with the Defense Department."[34] In fact, three aliens were charged "with attempting to get U.S. passports by using their voter registration cards."[35]

U.S. Attorney Dan Webb estimated that 80,000 illegal aliens were registered to vote in Chicago.[36] Dozens of aliens were indicted and convicted for registering and voting,[37] and one individual was indicted for recruiting an illegal alien to register to vote.[38]


You can't fix, it's taken me two minutes on the internet to find the evidence that Mr. Hussein Zook challenged me to "put up or shut up" about, so I say we let him keep talking. He's his own worst enemy.


Jeff,


"...prior to 1990."

Got it.


Democrats are always in favor of vote fraud.


Jeff,

We're among friends. Please just call me Hussein.


RNC Bruce,


That was lame.


Hitting T-balls now is a waste of your talent, sharpen up for the fall. It's in your best interest.


I see the Republicans are wrapping themselves in the flag, again They must have run out of their daily allowance of lies. Well, one thing you can count on, tomorrow, they will begin again, to lie! All I ask is, please stop hiding behind the flag, it should mean more to you, than as shield!!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE. NOW.


Hussein, when did you say in your post that it had to be after to 1990? The federal rulings from the 1982 case all of a sudden aren't pertinent? Why didn't you qualify it as such in your big, manly challenge to "put up or shut up?" Although it's nice that we're on a first name basis, Hussein. Keep addin' on those caveats, buddy.


Jeff,

(See my 6:28 PM post to RNC Bruce for comment.)


Well, I certainly agree that matching wits with you is the equivalent of T-Ball. Is Jackson or Michael around? At least you have to think a little with them.


Doogie Zook, other examples of Democratic vote fraud:
The governor's race in Washington in 2006.
Two Democrats going to jail in Milwaukee for vote fraud in 2004 election.

Doogie loves to live in the world of denial and cluelessness. My, I'm sure he thinks Boy Stroger and Boy Governor are great, honest, wonderful, talented leaders.


My, I'm sure he thinks Boy Stroger and Boy Governor are great, honest, wonderful, talented leaders.

Posted by: John D | April 28, 2008 9:45 PM


Yes they aren't paragons of virtue like former Governor George Ryan, AKA Federal Inmate 16627-424.


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