Obama on Clinton: "She's talkin' like she's Annie Oakley.''
by Mike Dorning
Barack Obama, stepping up his defense Sunday of comments he made that economically distressed voters "cling to" religion and guns, sought to turn rival Hillary Clinton's sharp criticism against her and emphasized his own respect for religious beliefs.
Clinton pressed the argument that Obama's remarks provided an opening to Republicans to drive away support from white working-class voters, saying at a televised "Compassion Forum" in Grantham, Pa., that her opponent's statement seemed "elitist, out of touch and, frankly, patronizing."
Obama delivered his most spirited response at a visit to a union hall Sunday evening, mocking Clinton's outrage over comments Obama made at a San Francisco fundraiser a week ago that working-class voters have turned to religion and gun rights because they are "bitter" over job losses and economic hardship.
"Shame on her. Shame on her. She knows better," Obama told an audience at a union hall in Steelton, Pa., before he and Clinton appeared separately at the Compassion Forum.
"She is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen, how she values the 2nd Amendment. She's talking like she is Annie Oakley," Obama continued, referring to the storied female sharpshooter of the Old West.
On Saturday, Clinton shared childhood memories of shooting lessons from her father on family vacations in Scranton, Pa.
"Hillary Clinton is out there like she's out in the duck blind every Sunday. She's packing a six-shooter," Obama said. "That's some politics being played by Hillary Clinton."
The Clinton campaign rapidly counterpunched, calling Obama's comments "an outburst."
"Sen. Clinton does know better—she knows better than to condescend and talk down to voters like Sen. Obama did," campaign spokesman Phil Singer said in a statement. "Sen. Obama's outburst won't change the fact that he has embraced his characterization of the millions of Americans who live in small towns."
See the rest of the story in today's Tribune:
Barely an hour later, Obama was in an unenviable position at the Compassion Forum, a discussion of faith and values televised on CNN and held at Messiah College.
Obama had begun the campaign with strong relationships with religious leaders after delivering a well-received address in June 2006 that argued for a greater role for faith in public discourse.
But amid the controversy over his remark about clinging to guns and religion, Obama began his appearance on Sunday assuring viewers and an audience of religious leaders of his respect for faith.
"What I was talking about was in no way demeaning a faith I embrace," Obama said.
He turned to the Bible to defend his use of the words "cling to."
"Scripture talks about clinging to what is good," Obama said, referring to a verse in St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans describing Christian virtues.
Clinton delivered an argument at the event that appealed to the political calculations of superdelegates and partisan Democratic voters.
She said that her criticism of Obama's remarks "has nothing to do with him being a good man or a man of faith." But she recalled that charges of elitism and cultural differences with blue-collar and rural voters figured in the defeats of Al Gore and John Kerry, the last two Democratic presidential nominees.
"We had two very good men and men of faith run for president in 2000 and 2004. But large segments of the electorate concluded that they did not really understand or relate to or frankly respect their ways of life," Clinton said.
The Democratic candidates are a little more than a week away from an April 22 primary in Pennsylvania in which socially conservative white working-class voters will play a key role. Clinton has generally performed better with that group and led in polls in Pennsylvania even before Obama's remarks were made public Friday.
Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.), an anti-abortion and pro-gun-rights Obama supporter who has drawn strong backing in rural and blue-collar regions of the state, argued in an appearance on CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Obama would not be badly damaged by the controversy.
"I know Barack Obama and I know Pennsylvania, and I've been blessed with the votes of people all across our state, including a lot of smaller communities in Pennsylvania," Casey said. "And I don't think they're going to judge him by one statement. I think they're going to judge him by his record, by his commitment to change."

Comments
Do we need a candidate for the job of President of the United States that seems to spend more time defending his and his wife's remarks than expaining what he's going to do for this country and what he plans to do to achieve those goals?
Posted by: Huggy Bear | April 14, 2008 7:43 AM
No thanks, NObama!
Posted by: Rey Flores | April 14, 2008 8:00 AM
An enemy always twists the good and meaningful words of good people! Hillary is nothing but a deceptive, devisive liar who is bent on manipulating votes for her selfish and lobbyists gains! OBAMA WILL PREVAIL.
Posted by: gal | April 14, 2008 8:04 AM
Huggy Bear, the reason he has to defend these type of less than perfect comments is because you GOP/Hillary crybabys, whine like a bunch bedwetters every time a candidate makes the smallest faux pas. Get over it. p.s when was the last time Hillary spent time in a duck blind. Don't even get me started on Bill Clinton who said that the people of Pennsylvania aren't bitter. They're proud. I gotta think proud as they may be the people of the rust belt have got to be a wee bit upset at losing all those jobs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-hbPmcMFxU
Posted by: Logic Prisoner | April 14, 2008 8:08 AM
Shame on you, Sen. Obama!
Shame on you, Sen. Obama!
Attacking Sen. Clinton (& others) for correctly analyzing
your comments to major donors in an elite closed door San Fran meeting
will not explain away those comments or what they reveal
about you, your character, your judgment or who and what
have influenced you!
Agitating, organizing, talking down to people and using them to try to achieve your fringe, non-mainstream ideals and values have been used before in history.
They failed.
That you cling to this pattern
would have been revealed earlier had the media investigated and vetted you
before you became the possible nominee.
Will you escape investigation
and vetting, become the nominee, and President
and impose your fringe, non-mainstream ideas, ideals, and values while destroying our ideals, values and way of life?
Not if the media and the DNC wakeup!
Posted by: concerned | April 14, 2008 8:15 AM
This is truly sad that Hillary Clinton would divide the party in such a disturbing manner. I have always suspected that she was not a good representative for the democratic party and now I am convinced. Over the past few weeks I have watched her become increasingly more offensive, arrogant and dishonest. She exemplifies all that is heinous about politicians that seek power over public service. On the contrary Barack Obama has shown great depth and insight. Nothing he or his wife has said has offended me in the least. For the first time in a decade I feel like I can be proud to be an American again. This is something Bush and those that vote and act like Hillary took away from me. All options on the table Clinton will not get my vote.
Posted by: Anna | April 14, 2008 8:15 AM
As long as he "defends" the remark instead of "apologizing" for a misstatement, this will grind on a lot of people. Major misstep from the start. Gotta love it!!
Posted by: John | April 14, 2008 8:15 AM
Mrs. Clinton is the last person in this race to have the right to point her finger. Lets face it. The words may not have been the best choice, but at least Obama is aware of the declining state of economic and social stability. He is not lying about landing under sniper fire, or having to explain 109 million dollars in income, is he? I for one, do not want to allow another Clinton who has spent most of her adult life in the hands of big money - I want a change!
Posted by: DR | April 14, 2008 8:18 AM
White people are bitter and frustrated. Better-qualified white students, employees, etc. face intense racial discrimination. Obama and his liberal comrades call it “Affirmative Action”.
Millions of white Americans see “people who aren’t like them” illegals and inner-city parasites sucking up on free benefits.
Millions of tax paying white Americans can no longer use the public school system because “people who aren’t like them” have made the schools awash with violence, drugs, and gangster rap.
Posted by: corn dog | April 14, 2008 8:20 AM
Huggy Bear, I agree - but despite how it looks, Bill Clinton isn't the candidate, Hillary is.
Posted by: BlackLeatherRain | April 14, 2008 8:23 AM
Barak Obama does very well when he's reading a speech written by someone else from a teleprompter, but with interviews and debates he needs his clean-up crew behind him, the W.O.R.M.s (What Obama Really Meant).
George W was the 'guy next door' that Americans could relate to who promised to be a Uniter with his brand of Compassionate Conservatism. He offered little of substance during his campaign and ran on his image. He was going to be the first MBA president and bring a new and competent management style to a mismanaged government.
Obama is the 'man of change' who is supposed to bring something completely new and different to American politics. In interviews and debates, he 'uhs' and 'ahs' and meanders and steers his responses to his memorized talking points and he exhibits a surprisingly shallow knowledge of the policies on his website. His standard policy 'out' is that everyone will 'have a seat at the table'. He is promising to bring a new inclusiveness and respect to America. How’s he doing so far? He wants to disenfranchise FL & MI. His campaign has threatened Black delegates who didn’t support him, promising to get them defeated in the next election cycle they didn’t come onboard his campaign. The man Obama calls his spiritual mentor is a racist bigot. And, Obama has a fair amount of dirty baggage for one who’s been in the game for a relatively short time: - so far, the MSM has mostly given Obama a ‘pass’ on his past campaign tactics and associations, notably Rezko. Obama said he didn’t know and didn’t remember and the MSM let this alone.
I think Obama is unelectable. Despite his support from the upper echelons of the Democratic Party, I think the Republican Slime machine will make short work of him, and they won’t even have to resort to lying, as the have done with Kerry, Gore and Hillary Clinton.
Worse, I think that, should Obama manage somehow to become the next president, I think America would once again be ruled by whichever of his ‘advisors’ manages the internal White House coup, à la Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.
Posted by: LDW | April 14, 2008 8:27 AM
As a proud American and a Democrat, I firmly believe that Mr. Obama has shown to be a man who IS out of touch and a man who has spent most of his time putting people down and avoiding the issues so important to our nation right now. For his wife to say she was not proud to be an American until her husband's candidacy for President was very disturbing to me. Obama said what he said last week. They were his words and he chose to say them. They were arrogant, elitist and very demeaning to people. His response? To go on the attack this weekend and call Hillary "Annie Oakley". To me that was sexist and crude and indicative of his tactics. I am voting for Hillary and I feel she is the most fit to run this country and offer real, viable solutions to the issues affecting us today and in the future. All Obama has done is explain away things and get on the soap box and stammer through speeches of promises not solutions.
Posted by: Brad | April 14, 2008 8:30 AM
Shame on you Hillary. A typical Clinton hit job. She stands for nothing, and has nothing to offer but inept leadership. That said John McCain offers you more war and plenty of money out of your wallet and into the coffers of his friends in corporate America. Ever get the felling you've been ripped off???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9XY3JZ96SM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gwqEneBKUs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfwRb_XKFvA&NR=1
Posted by: McBush Clinton Family Value$ | April 14, 2008 8:35 AM
I believe it's been over for months. Obama over Clinton, Obama over Mc Cain.
Obama 2008!
Yes we can, yes he will!
All three candidates have made mistakes. It does no good to focus on any one mistake by any candidate.
My first choice was Ron Paul.
I will write him in if Obama does not win the nomination.
Mc Cain wants to stay in Iraq. I won't vote for that.
Extending the 28 year rule of Bush/Clinton, I won't vote for that.
Posted by: Dave | April 14, 2008 8:35 AM
Shame on Obama for saying such unpatriotic condescending things. Very un-presidential.
Posted by: Ty Johnson | April 14, 2008 8:41 AM
How will Obama stand up to Mahmoud which he thinks is the way to go.
Frankly, Obama is afraid of Hillary and really the more I see of him the less I can stand him.
He hangs out with these swarmy characters Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, Farakhan and he can't understand why we think he has a character problem. Who you associate with is who you are Obama and that isn't good!
Hillary was right to challenge him who does he think he is. Better than anybody --its the drivebys fault for giving him unfettered access with a paper thin resume and curmudgeons for friends.
Jerry White, Springfield, IL
Posted by: Jerry White | April 14, 2008 8:44 AM
There are huge issues facing the USA right now. The ability of both candidates and the media to avoid the big questions and seize upon the trivial is astounding. Wake up! This country is crashing and burning, and all that most people can think about is some turn of phrase. Get the big picture and elect the person most likely to have the vision to get us out of the mess the current band of thieves have created!
Posted by: JD | April 14, 2008 8:50 AM
The significant fact to remember here is that regardless of what Obama thinks or feels if he is the Democratic candidate the Republicans will portray him as "an uppity nigger" and they will win the White House again.
Posted by: SWC76801 | April 14, 2008 8:50 AM
The manner in which Hillary Clinton has seized on this issue only goes to show the extent of her own despair and BITTERNESS over her waning candidacy. At the Compassion Forum yesterday, not only did she accuse Sen. Obama of being an elitist, she blamed Sen. Kerry's and VP Gore's presidential losses on the voters perception they are elitist as well. She is so blinded with ambition she has no qualms in smearing her Democrat colleagues. Compassion Forum? Please. Neither Campbell Brown nor the other host called her on it. Moreover, CNN has been relentlessly deconstructing and analyzing Sen. Obama's words all weekend long showing the kind of bias that makes them irrelevant as a news operation. It has already come to light that both Clintons approached the same subject with a detached and cynical tone. Theda Skocpol, the renowned political scientist wrote to TPM to describe meetings with the Clintons and staff which she attended. She also believes Hillary's comments are not sitting well with the Democratic establishment.
Ultimately, and sooner rather than later, Hillary's dishonesty and pandering on this issue is going to come back and bite her. Finally, in yesterday's forum Sen. Obama's fluidity and eloquence was truly something to behold. For almost an hour, it gave us the opportunity to learn much about his brilliant analytical mind. His performance was so much superior to hers.
Posted by: ceci | April 14, 2008 8:51 AM
Once again a desperate Senator Clinton has attempted to dump lemonades on Senator Obama, and once again he's turned them into Lemonade. She should really fold up her tent and go home. America is far smarter than she gives them credit for.
Posted by: Ken | April 14, 2008 8:54 AM
Yech. After 7.5 years of neocon oligarchy, you'd think the Democrats would be able to present a collaborative front. But they're going to lose this election because of divisiveness and childish bickering. I hope McCain is able to withstand the RNC/Bushevic pressure to tow the party line, but I doubt it. I foresee at least 4 more years of the same old crap.
Posted by: ceci | April 14, 2008 8:56 AM
Typical. I am so disgusted with Hillary's tactics and how Obama must tap dance around everything he says because she will jump all over everything and find away to take it out of context. When people are sufferign or struggling in life they turn to the things they find solace in, whether that be guns or religion or their family or whatever makes them feel secure. This is an honest statement and is in no way elitist, leave it to Hillary to find a way to turn it into something like that. Does anyone really think Obama is more of an elitist then Hillary? Do you really find Hillary easier to relate to then Obama? She is intelligent, and that is about it. She is not warm or compassionate, and she sure as heck doesn't give a damn about me or doing anything other then furthering her career, her wealth, and in turn the interest of the special interest groups who have her in their back pocket. Please go away Hillary, and stop trying to tear down our hope for a better future. ~Middle Class White Male for OBAMA~
Posted by: Mark McCullough | April 14, 2008 8:57 AM
I have yet to drive through PA, but I know there are a lot of people in New England that are bitter about losing all the great manufacturing jobs we had to states like Georgia and Arizona and countries like China and India. Obama pretty much nailed that one on the head if you ask me. The Clinton's are the ones that are "out-of touch". Didn't we already have them as President?? Don't you think we can do better???
Posted by: dan | April 14, 2008 8:58 AM
Have you read his entire speech rather than just the Hillary camp sound bites? It makes perfect sense to me.
Do not listen to the sound bites for any candidate. EVERYONE, regardless of who they support, that condenses a speech down to a quick sound bite wants to spin the information to prove their own position.
Posted by: Jedeki | April 14, 2008 9:03 AM
Damn right they're bitter; they have good reasons to be. And most of those reasons are the economic and trade policies that have - and continue to be - championed by George Bush and John McCain.
The McCain campaign is managed by a cadre of Washington-insider special interest lobbyists. He and his current wife are estimated to be worth about $100 million. He reportedly owns eight houses. His let-them-eat-cake economic policies are based on George Bush's failed radical conservative "you're on your own buddy" philosophy. One after another he supported trade agreements that protect the rights of corporations, but ignore the rights of labor, and have devastated one Pennsylvania community after another. He gets most of his campaign cash from the wealthiest corporate interests around. And he has the gall to call Barack Obama an "elitist"?
How many millions did the Clintons make last year. Drinking a shot and a beer with the little people doesn't mean a thing. She's another rich Washington insider trying to get hers.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/...
Posted by: Hillary's wake up call | April 14, 2008 9:03 AM
Here's the deal; at least for us rural roots folks: Neither one of them has "barn creds" they may have street creds with the inner city "gimme a handout" demographic, but not with rural folks. Rural Americans feed this country and one of these days arrogant city people are going to feel the crunch.
HRC is on record stating she would work to eliminate the Electoral College system of electing a president.
You bet, the DNC already spends 98% of it's cash on 13, that's "THIRTEEN" urban targets in America. The dems are just fine with having city folks eliminate rural participation in electing a president.
Rural Americans would be stuck with what ever candidate wins the big cities. That's wrong and it's why we have an Electoral College.
Obama is probably the same; another city person who hasn't a clue about how to survive should the grid go down.
Show me a presidential candidate who isn't afraid to get their hands dirty butchering a chicken for dinner and I'll show you a person with common sense...something the 2 Democrat candidate have little of.
McCain isn't much better BTW.
Posted by: tradamerica | April 14, 2008 9:05 AM
The manner in which Hillary Clinton has seized on this issue only goes to show the extent of her own despair and BITTERNESS over her waning candidacy. At the Compassion Forum yesterday, not only did she accuse Sen. Obama of being an elitist, she blamed Sen. Kerry's and VP Gore's presidential losses on the voters perception they are elitist as well. She is so blinded with ambition she has no qualms in smearing her Democrat colleagues. Compassion Forum? Please. Neither Campbell Brown nor the other host called her on it. Moreover, CNN has been relentlessly deconstructing and analyzing Sen. Obama's words all weekend long showing the kind of bias that makes them irrelevant as a news operation. It has already come to light that both Clintons approached the same subject with a detached and cynical tone. Theda Skocpol, the renowned political scientist wrote to TPM to describe meetings with the Clintons and staff which she attended. She also believes Hillary's comments are not sitting well with the Democratic establishment.
Ultimately, and sooner rather than later, Hillary's dishonesty and pandering on this issue is going to come back and bite her. Finally, in yesterday's forum Sen. Obama's fluidity and eloquence was truly something to behold and admire. For almost an hour, it gave us the opportunity to learn much about his brilliant analytical mind. His performance was so much superior to hers.
Posted by: ceci | April 14, 2008 9:05 AM
If the Clintons can "make" $110 MILLION as a senator and a retired president, just think how much they'll be able to "make" as president and retired president? Nice little gold mine they've got going of selling political favors to big industry (foreign uranium mining) and foreign govts. (Chinese).
Posted by: Reality | April 14, 2008 9:08 AM
Listen to this.
What he said was not condescending. It was the truth. Hillary's attack on him for saying such things was however very condescending to the American people in Pennsylvania and beyond. She's taking them for fools.
Barack Obama, before he went into the senate, explaining this exact point word for word.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M
Posted by: powindah | April 14, 2008 9:14 AM
"Logic Prisoner":
If anyone is "bedwetting" and "whining", it is Obama's supporters because they are obviously nervous about whether this is an insurmountable bump on the seemingly inevitable road to his coronation/nomination. Even if he does surmount this hurdle, it will come back to haunt him in the GE and we will once again have a Republican in the WH.
Further, please stop accusing Clinton of creating/fomenting this story. For God's sake, the story broke on on the ultra-leftwing Huffington Post, which is a huge cheerleader for Obama.
Obama said the words. Now let him defend them.
Posted by: Celeste | April 14, 2008 9:19 AM
Dear America:
Yeee-Haaaa!
Hillary is a hard-drinkin', sniper-dodgin', league-bowlin', gun-totin' millionaire!
From my bitter little small town in rural America, I'm votin' fer her!
Y'all should, too!
Yeeee-Haaaaa!
Yours truly,
Bill
P.S. I'm off on another speakin' tour to make thousands of dollars contradictin' my wife's political positions!
Posted by: Groucho | April 14, 2008 9:21 AM
"Do we need a candidate for the job of President of the United States that seems to spend more time defending his and his wife's remarks than expaining what he's going to do for this country and what he plans to do to achieve those goals?"
You can say the exact same thing about all the time Clinton spends defending herself, and her husband. 16 years worth of it, actually.
Posted by: Jennifer | April 14, 2008 9:25 AM
Truth will prevail and that would be good for All Americans if Obama becomes the president of this country. It is clear that the Hillary Camp is trying to twist and circumvent the truth or, any words he says. The media, picks it up and runs with it like it's a hot ball of fire. I agreed with what he said about because I know what he meant. Obama is the "common man" like the Clintons, he did earn 109 million on his Tax Returns. Instead, he and his wife earned 900 thousand. Now, who is an "Elitist"? The American voter will get what they deserve. They can vote out of Fear or, for what is Right.
Posted by: American First | April 14, 2008 9:25 AM
According to Obama anyone who is bitter goes to church, likes to hunt and is upset with illegals overrunning the country. Of course at Obama's church they preach hatred and racism. Obama and some of his followers, who act like a cult, are the most arrogant people I have see and they are not afraid of flaunting it. If he is the nominee the Democrats can expect to go down to a big defeat in November.
Posted by: Depot Jim | April 14, 2008 9:30 AM
This is so ridiculous! Seriously! Why is it that his statements are ALWAYS taken out of context but when Hillary outright lies about snipers in Somalia, it's just that she misspoke because she was tired? It's not unlike the fact that Bush lies everytime he opens his mouth and it somehow isn't grounds for impeachment.
Issues people, lets stick to the issues!
Posted by: Tara | April 14, 2008 9:32 AM
Here in Canada we have followed the American primaries with considerable interest as the world is slowly slipping into a global catastrophe of economic collapse and bitter conflict and it comes as a rather shocking development to hear Ms. Clinton referring to Mr. Obama in a quite condescending manner as if he were being "Uppity" ... For a Caucasian person of wealth to make such an inference harkens back to a different time in American politics circa George Wallace et al ... Strangely no one has called her on this ... is everyone asleep at the switch in the American Media?
Posted by: Barrie O. Ward | April 14, 2008 9:38 AM
I will admit that I don't get the uproar over what was said. Ask any church pastor and they will tell you that when times are good church attendance is low, when times are hard attendance is up. Any one who has taken sociology 101 learned that in hard economic times people tend to be more obressive to those they consider lower in class status, different race or religon. With that said this is nothing more than Hillary, McCain and the media telling people what they should think and feel. No that makes me more upset than anything Obama said. Once again, unlike Hillary, he did not lie.
Posted by: Cluless in Chicago | April 14, 2008 9:40 AM
I was not offended by Obama's remarks. If I were a steelworker's family, I''d feel bitter, etc. over what's happened to our jobs and economy. He was certainly not being elitist in what he said. He was right on target.
Posted by: Stan Alprin | April 14, 2008 9:41 AM
I once was a Clinton supporter. But, after watching her in these election, she saddens me. She's taught us a new phrase for lying. Now we use "Misspoken". As a parent, what message is she sending to children. Obama, on the other hand has remained mild mannered. He refuses to tell the truth about himself. He needs to remind us that he is one of us. A child of a broken home. A child of a single parent. A mother that used foodstamps to survive. These are all trues. Hillary is not of the general people of today. She comes from all the right (perfect) side of the fence. She's never known a day of impoverishness. She's never had to give blood and sweat for anything. She only crys when things don't go her way. She doesn't know how to turn the lemons of life into lemonade sweetened with honey or syrup when you don't have sugar. Barack Obama does. She's never received a red notice of disconnect. Barack has. In todays times, what working class American hasn't? She also appears to be deceptive. Ask her to explain her taxes. I was always taught that when you marry you are as one. Will she be able to control Bill if she were to be elected? I have deep concerns that the answer will be "NO". She can't control him now! If she is elected, who will be our president???? As her about her peoples underhanded dealings with the Colombians. Ask her about Bill's activities. Obama, should ask her questions that we all want to know as Americans. We need to know. He have been such a gentlemen to her. It shows that through all his troubles, he was well raised. But, now it's time for him to defend himself. She's so busy trying to throw bricks at him. This appears to be many of her deceptive practices to elude from the main issues about herself. Obama has put all his cards on the table. She refuses. She still concedes to the old ways of deception. Doesn't change involve truth and honesty.
People you make the vote!
Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:42 AM
I have to say that what Obama said is true and I am disappointed at Clinton's attack on him for those comments (I like BOTH Obama and Clinton). Sometimes the truth hurts--what Obama said in San Francisco is probably the case for a lot of people. Geez. . .some people need to take off the rose colored glasses. Where have they been the last 7+ years under Dubya and Co?
Posted by: Janstress | April 14, 2008 9:43 AM
Why do I feel tired?
Posted by: DD | April 14, 2008 9:46 AM
The Four Sins of "Cling"
Posted by: David | April 14, 2008 9:52 AM
I don't believe Hillary got shooting lessons from her dad. In fact, I expect to see a video of her getting piano lessons from her dad.
Posted by: Bud McFarlin | April 14, 2008 9:57 AM
Right on, Huggy Bear and Rey Flores!
What we need in the oval office is another professional panderer! Someone who tells small town America exactly what it wants to hear. Someone who makes promises they have no intention of keeping. Someone like Hillary or McCain, who want to insist that everything's just a-ok in depressed manufacturing towns.
That's really worked out well for the past 30 years. Why change now? As Doug Wilson says, change just brings problems. Let's just keep on this steady path of pretending everything's fine for the little guy in America - that way, or government and corporations can keep fleecing them while pandering to their fascination with guns, god, and gays.
Great call.
Posted by: chad_broski | April 14, 2008 9:59 AM
Where exactly are people contriving elitism from what he said? It's the truth.
That said, Hillary, you can pack it in and head home any day now. Your schemes didn't work the first time, and they will not again. Just. Go.
Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:06 AM
From Illogic Man:
"Huggy Bear, the reason he has to defend these type of less than perfect comments is because you GOP/Hillary crybabys, whine like a bunch bedwetters every time a candidate makes the smallest faux pas."
Yet, Illogic Man crucifies Stephen Hadley for making a gaffe.
In the world of human sludge -- the Loony Left -- Obama's constant gaffes are to be dismissed but gaffes by those he disagrees with turn into conspiracies.
Posted by: John D | April 14, 2008 10:09 AM
Obama is again sounding strident and childish. Didn't he criticize Clinton when she used the "shame on you" phrase?
He got caught demeaning middle America with his wealthy San Francisco fundraisers (I'm having trouble getting these people to vote for me because they just don't get how wonderful I am because they're too busy worrying about their guns and religion and bigotry) and now he's spinning like crazy to make us understand what he really meant. We know what he really meant. Talk about a crybaby!
Posted by: Yeah, right | April 14, 2008 10:11 AM
"Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. "
Does Obama really "abhor" that which God calls evil, or does he abhor his own conception of evil. What he thinks God would call evil. Is he worshipping God or Mammon? Test his positions against scripture and find out for yourselves.
In my opinion the man has no just right to quote the word of God. It is good to see that he lumps guns in with the things we should cling to as "good". But I have to wonder, good progressive that he is, when he starts trying to take them, if we will be just in saying "ye hypocrite"?
Posted by: Smith | April 14, 2008 10:14 AM
Keep eyes on the big picture folks. A Democrat MUST win the White House in November. Hillary has been through 2 winning general elections with Bill; one of those with a Republican administration. They know how to win. He seems like a good, capable man but Obama is just too great a risk. Hillary will push for universal healthcare, which will prove to be a huge help in our economic recovery. We must go will the stronger candidate: Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: avwrobel | April 14, 2008 10:15 AM
Umm ..never mind the fact that he's right? I think his statement was a spot-on correct assessment. People ARE bitter! You'd be bitter too if your religion was completely pandered to, lied to, and taken advantage of, by the Bush administration to get re-elected - then promptly ignored. After being fleeced at every opportunity by corporations that play "gotcha" like con men, after finding out Bush lied to get us into the Iraq war, after finding our elections are being tampered with like we're some 3rd world country, after being lied to about NAFTA (by Clinton) and hearing that whooshing sound, there's little left. So "Cling to" is an apt description when our wealth, Constitution, national integrity, and sense that our government is "for the people" is being drained away from us at breathtaking speed. What's left a few crooked televangelists have bled from the faithful. So add bleeding to bitter. Come to think of it, we're not simply bitter -
Posted by: Gusto | April 14, 2008 10:16 AM
"On Saturday, Clinton shared childhood memories of shooting lessons from her father on family vacations in Scranton, Pa."
Is this the same kind of memory she had in Bosnia? Maybe, in reality, they stopped at a truck stop on their way to Ohio and had a rubber band fight?
Posted by: Big Vic | April 14, 2008 10:17 AM
It's a shame the political campaign between these two politicians has degraded to he said, she said. We are all loosing in this kind of bickering and picking on every slightest statment and nuance that each politician expresses. What is the end result, the "old" politics always succeed and revert to the grand old arguments of who is a bigger American and who can shoot further.
The politics of hope is slowly getting burried. Well, it was a nice run while it lasted.
Posted by: Milan Kocic | April 14, 2008 10:17 AM
This just makes Hillary look stupid and it scares me to think that she has a chance of being our President. She is clearly twisting Obama's meaning. He is calling the situation for what it is.
People in this country are scared and they rely on religion and guns and whatever else for security and protection. That is not a bad thing, it's just the way it is. It is not condescending, it is just a fact.
Hooray for Obama for again seeing our world the way it really is and wanting to do something about it. Hillary apparently cannot see, or won't admit, the facts; she would rather ignore them and therefore she will never do anything to change them.
Once again, Obama speaks the truth and Hillary speaks lies. Shame on her for stirring up untruths. I hope this one turns around on her and seals her fate. Enough already.
Posted by: Rick | April 14, 2008 10:19 AM
If the working class and struggling middle class fall for this attempt of Hillary's to deflect the attention off of her lies( mis-spokes) and what Bill Clinton did to send your jobs out of this country and how this man/woman are in bed with some questionable Chinese business, then they deserve to suffer loss of their financial security and their jobs. There children deserve to be fodder for the war mongers, and they deserve to have to never ever buy a home that they can call their own.
As long as the people of this country act refuse to be self responsible and question this type of attempt at smear we see from this woman (Hillary )and her dirty political camp) then there will be nothing but more of the same old, same old.
Folks this chick lied and continued to lie about trip to Bosnia, until caught. She refused to admit that she had voted for the war without reading the critical briefing that would have given the the information to take no part in what has now become the destruction of Constitutional protections, until pushed. She refused to share with those of us who would have to have her back in the White House their tax returns, until forced; as if we had no right to know and now we can see that they felt that they had something to hide and we still did not get the full returns for this most recent year where they have made out like bandit with ties to a cast of international shady characters. She and her husband have tricked and fooled the gullible into thinking that they are not the ones who actually feel that they are some elite class above the rules, the law, and the rest of us.
Grant this chick the democrat nomination and she somehow wins, then let the poor and struggling eat cake for they will have the lying, mis-speaking, destructive, scandal pone administration that they deserve.
Given what we have been shown , a Hillary Clinton administration will make us long for a return of the "transparency" of this George Bush Administration
Posted by: pat | April 14, 2008 10:21 AM
One definition of an Elitist: One who believes they are better suited to lead. That makes Hillary Clinton, who has insisted over and over and over again that she is better suited to be President, an Elitist.
Shame on Hillary for misrepresenting Barack Obama's words - just another example of the lies that have been tumbling out of the Elitist Hillary's mouth and campaign.
Posted by: Russell | April 14, 2008 10:22 AM
Funny. the very people Obama describes are the ones who always vote. Republican.
Posted by: Flackman | April 14, 2008 10:28 AM
Obama, the man of many contradictions, is so amusing as he tries to erase the damage done for revealing what he really thinks of average working class Americans. He made that strange remark about Annie Oakley, unknown to most people, in a desperate attempt to take the focus off his insulting words directed at small town America. He wears one mask when he talks to the elite with whom he identifies, and says what he thinks they want to hear, and wears another mask when talking to the working class. No one knows where he stands on trade. He's anti-Nafta in working class towns, and pro-Nafta with the elite. His rep. told the Canadians to ignore his anti-Nafta rhetoric in political speeches. They were just words he did not mean and he was really pro-Nafta. He is pro or con whatever the issue and the audience. He's a chameleon of many colors, and I suspect red, white and blue is not one of his favorite displays. In his famous revealing words he reveals the contempt he feels for most Americans and that they cling to their faith in God as a refuge, their families, their community and what they feel they can depend upon. He referred to them as turning in their bitterness at the economy to God, guns, anti-trade and anti-illegal alien and anti-gay sentiment. To explain himself now he says, "Scripture talks about clinging to what is good," Obama said, referring to a verse in St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans describing Christian virtues." He is now putting a spin on things and saying that what small town America embraces, and probably most Americans, is good. Forget about it being bad just a sound byte ago. Bad is good and good is bad depending on the audience. Obama clings to any words that will get him elected, whether he believes what he is saying or not. He says he is man of faith, and I assume his spiritual mentor, Rev. Wright is his character witness. Faith in action is what counts. Hillary Clinton has practiced faith in action all her life based on her Christian beliefs. Obama has practiced using words to create a false image and mesmerize people. No one really knows what he believes he has contradicted himself so many times. Shame on you, Barack Hussein Obama! Shame on you!
Posted by: Linda | April 14, 2008 10:29 AM
Get With The Program. When it comes to politics, anything goes. You make misstakes and have to deal with it. This just is what I am talking about with the better candidate. I am a Democrat because I am for the Working Class and against the Republican right Wing and even any other type of Republican.
To be a Republican means you take religion first, than big busines whom usualy takes advantage of the Working Class, thosae whom 9-5 have jobs or are supervisors, The poor and middle class deserve the right to a LIving Wage that Republicans would not, in favor of Tax reductions and put on the backs of those whom work in their companies. They in this last vote even made it to kill off the young and cling to war against Iraq and not the Talaban andthose responsible for 9/11 plane hijacks and crashes.
Posted by: Robert A Brown Jr | April 14, 2008 10:32 AM
The "Four Sins of Cling?"
Man, I hate it when my dryer does that!
Posted by: Groucho | April 14, 2008 10:38 AM
Yet another example that this nationally unvetted candidate cannot be the top of our ticket. HRC is NOT the enemy.
What’s wrong with waiting 8 years, Obama and Gobamas? Wait for LBJ’s 3rd generation of Dixiecrats to kick the bucket.
I used to say that. And I may say that again.
But, give a listen to the audio posted by Mayhill Fowler (the not so pretty girl recently on the bus who savvily recorded the disturbing speech in California).
It’s a disturbing speech and shaking a ‘you are naughty’ finger at Hilary Clinton will not work.
In fact, the whole strategy for ‘dealing’ with his comment disturbs me even more.
Because, there seems to be a pattern emerging from not just the Obama campaign, but form the lips of Obama himself:
Exclude from the ‘movement’ or otherwise silence the non-enthusiastic or
‘offending’ middle aged white or elderly women.
Listen to the audio Mayhill recorded—and be sure to thank her and show your support for her. She will need it, if Tavis Smiley is any example of how people non-conforming to the Obama message of ‘hope’ get treated.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-exclusive-audio-on_b_96333.html
His comments to the crowd that we need ‘new people’ in the Democratic party kind of chilled me to the bone. I find him very intolerant. I find his campaign intolerant. He responded to a question about his ability to really unite the party after such a divisive campaign by saying that “people get their feelings hurt” and they’ll be back (basically).
I don’t think that’s the case. People left his campaign because we felt it was using the wrong strategy and felt (but couldn’t quite put our finger on WHY it was fundamentally wrong-minded.
In his speech last night, in which he mentioned that ‘abstinence” and teaching appropriate behavior would be a good idea—heck—the people he BASHED last night have been speaking about this stuff for years! In fact, the Planned Parenthood crowd in Kalamazoo, Michigan (who later came to Chicago) managed to get a K-12 systematic sex education curriculum passed in the late 1970s. The JOHN BIRCH society worked to get it removed from the schools—and the Planned Parenthood clinic was actually bombed.
Would 70s style peaceful activists be part of the mature crowd Obama now wants replaced with his Gobama crowd?
That’s what it’s looking like to me.
Particularly when I heard Obama last night say talk about the pro-choice people he said were reluctant to infuse a “moral dimension’ into the abortion issue.
Patently false. Shame on Barack Obama.
Shame on him also for the recent clarification that in fact he DID attend a Muslim school (the public schools in Indonesia were like the community—women didn’t have to wear the veil, but…) seems like he was earlier being less than forthcoming. Even in liberal Islamic settings, women have a back of the bus status. I do NOT think Obama has been honest enough about this.
I think he’s sexist. Not just for the relentless bashing of Geraldine Ferraro, but for something really revealing in his speech last night, he ‘could not remember’ whether he’d had a conversation with his daughters about God. Well, if you’re in a 50’s throwback marriage where mommy is the main person interacting with the kids when they’re not in the expensive, enriching U of C daycare---then you perhaps are leaving a lot of that stuff to the wifey.
And perhaps that’s why Michelle (back when she let reporters cover her fund-raising) cut loose with the “ladies against women” style rant against Hilary (“How can she handle the White House when she ‘can’t manage’ her own house (sic).”)
The problem with sexism or any ‘ism’ is the elitism at its heart.
But there’s another reason why the Obamas must mature more before they’re at the top of the ticket.
They’ve let the newfound celebrity go to their heads.
Call it the ‘diva factor’.
Bonnie Raitt (you might remember she and Jackson Browne played a New Hampshire benefit for John Edwards’ superior approach—since adopted by Hilary Clinton—regarding nuclear power, greenhouse gases, and whatnot) chafed at being called a diva on a blues show last night. She said it reminded her of the old saw “Don’t look Miss Ross in the eye as she heads on stage.
Barack Obama as diva.
Posted by: citizentompaine | April 14, 2008 10:38 AM
SHAME ON YOU obama. You only act as if you are sorry after your racist a$$ is called out for making such idiotic comments.
Posted by: BDD | April 14, 2008 10:43 AM
What is change? Truly. Answer that question and you will know that Americans are angry about something. Yeah many people are excited about this competition and election however the catalyst for this is a war that the majority of Americans feel is not a good thing at this juncture and the fact that jobs have really abandoned small town America. As a Michigan and Illinois native there are some SERIOUSLY economically depressed little towns in those midwestern states that I am SURE have many of the same issues as the folks in Pennsylvania. So I feel that there are Americans that are discouraged, disheartened and really want change (hence the most non traditional and controversial group of presidential candidates in ages) because they have lost their jobs and see that their kids don't have the same opportunities that they did. BTW this is NOT racial. There are 2nd and 3rd generation steel and autoworkers children who are not doing as well as their elders because the jobs require a different skill set or are not there. Yes we need to change our mindset and approach to the job market but in the meantime you have some people who are barely making it. Those might be some people who find hope through whatever means but they are also not happy. I don't blame them. I don't care who you vote for but someone has to change this crap - because I do feel it is crappy coming from a steel/auto family where many folks worked in the midwest for a combination of over 120 years between the 1940's until the late 90's. Though I would be 3rd generation at Ford I know better than to bank on it - no matter what kind of training and education. The company is going to a bad place in a handbasket. I will never have the opportunity to work there (or any other company for that matter) for 44 years like my Grandfather - it just isn't going to happen as employment opportunities have changed. I don't live in the towns my parents grew up in because they are economically devistated and NO ONE has escaped - none of their inhabitants no matter the race or whatever. I guess that is why I am not bitter but if I were there I would probably be dealing with the challenges the best I could and I would probably be angry on occasion. The comments though a bit blunt have a ring of truth - otherwise why is this year so different from others election seasons? We could just stick to the way things are but it is obvious that there is a major change taking place in American politics - Good.
Posted by: Fair | April 14, 2008 10:43 AM
I think it was a perfect response to her deceptive, twisting, move of desperation. Why is it that we're just now hearing about her 'down home' blue-collar upbringing after all these years? She's the graduate of the elitest colleges and is spouting this crap? When Barack said, "Come On!" it's coming from a guy that I'd have as my next door neighbor!
We are tired of the B.S. of the CLintons, as much as I loved his presidency. Talk about four more years of drama and distraction, and this latest antic of hers is the tip of the iceberg.
We haven't heard the end of that financial crap from the 90's either - there is more that is coming out on that, too. Oh snore...
The house is on fire people and we all have to get off our duffs and pitch in on some water here... vote vote vote....
Posted by: New Nashvillian | April 14, 2008 10:44 AM
Hillary is running a very courageous campaign against a bias press who have certainly not investigated Obama as they should have, a six to one financial handicap resulting in an unprecedented media blitz of half truths and a assortment of betrayals from her own party that would tear a lesser person down. Yet, she holds her head high and fights the good fight. Compare this to an elitist who degrades the working people of this country. Sorry folks, this Hoosier Democrat will vote for McCain in a general election if Hillary loses the nomination.
Posted by: Michael G. Barrett | April 14, 2008 10:45 AM
TO Posted by: Huggy Bear | April 14, 2008 7:43 AM
Do we need a candidate for the job of President of the United States that seems to spend more time defending his and his wife's remarks than expaining what he's going to do for this country and what he plans to do to achieve those goals?
Could also ask the same question about the clintons couldn't we? Do we want 2 people in the WH who constantly are caught lying about almost everything that comes out of their mouths? Are they lying? Are their lips moving - I guess the answer is YES!
Posted by: kathy mcmichael | April 14, 2008 10:45 AM
Obama says - You are not allowed to vote for the things you believe in, especially if they are religious in nature or go against my belief that typical citizens should not be allowed to have guns. Small town folks will not vote for me, not because of my radical leftist beliefs, but because they themselves are mistaken and blinded by the bitterness caused by politicians other than myself.
Posted by: Obama Nanny State | April 14, 2008 10:51 AM
Sorry folks, but Obama is not going to get elected president.
Oh, he'll probably win the nomination, but from then on it will be a repeat of the McGovern or Dukakis debacles.
None of you Obama fans get it...and I happen to like the man...but the primaries- and certainly those dopey caucuses - are rarely an accurate look at how the general public will vote.
Nope, he's done...you just are too starry-eyed to admit it.
Posted by: tomk | April 14, 2008 10:53 AM
Wow the GOP just locked up the win. Obama will get creamed by the GOP smear campaign, they are licking there chops to roast him. SO Clinton is the only 1 who could beat McCain but if she gets the nomination it will tear the Dems party in 2. Amazing after 2 terms of this president that the GOP will win again. Its sad if you think about it.
Posted by: Jim Beam | April 14, 2008 10:53 AM
Oh come on you folks know
that Liberal Gun Grabber,
lying arrogamt.secretive
Barack Hussein Obama was
just trying to impress his VP
Choce Madame Nancy Pelosi
and prove to her and all the
rich fat cat San Francisco
Liberals that he hates small
town Americans,Gun Owners
and Christians,and this sis
what Obama's "Change You
Can Believe In!" Just Say No
to Barack Hussein Obama and
his VP Nancy Pelosi!
Posted by: Ralph | April 14, 2008 10:59 AM
hillary clinton is an ignominy to womanhood; a disgrace to my mother's gender. she lacks those motherly virtues most mothers possess. i'd be abashed of her were she my mother. she is unreliable, dishonest, divisive, desperate and selfish. she can never make a worthy president.
Posted by: ikenna obodozie | April 14, 2008 11:04 AM
I think it is quite ironic that the candidate that has spent the last 25+ years in an ivory tower (whether that be in Washington DC or Little Rock) is calling someone else out of touch with the working man.
It just reinforces that she will said and do anything that will "poll" well, just like her hubby, even if it is not the right thing to do. We need someone who is going to be a strong leader, not someone that is looking for a vehicle that will allow them to earn Millions in speaking fees after their presidency.
Posted by: Bob D | April 14, 2008 11:05 AM
STOP THE FIGHTING...
Any way you slice it the next president will probably be a bust.
In terms of potential, Obama probably has the most. But there is a great risk for that reward. We could get GW'd again (an President easily misled by "advisors") or we could get a real leader. Who knows..throw the dice.
Clinton (ethics what ethics)? McCain (Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde - I'm hiding!!)? Nothing new there.
Potential? Not much. Expect lots of gridlock (congress won't pass a single bill of substance) and politics (read: lobbyists, religio facists, and cronyism) as usual.
Is there anyone playing to the middle? Who??
If the next president is a Democrat he/she very likely to get "Cartered" by the Republican Big Oil , Corporate Wealthy and Wall Street Gang. Can you say interest rates in double digits??
If it is McCain, expect congressional constipation on any of his plans.
This time around I'm firmly Democrat regardless. It's not "the economy stupid" or "are you better off than you were 4 years ago" this time.
For me it's all about balance on the Supreme Court. Where is the balance in this 3rd Branch? We need more women, minorities and Centrists.
Just pray (or hope for the atheists), hold your nose and vote.
Posted by: ArtR | April 14, 2008 11:06 AM
I watched the whole video as Preacher Obama yelled out shame on Hillary, and put down McCain as someone that can't do anything. The only problem is Preacher Obama did not explain why people only turn to religion, guns, and hating of illegal aliens, homosexuals, and lesbians when they are bitter, upset, and things are not going good. I can't believe that a U.S. Presidential candidate would actually say that people only turn to religion when bitter. This puts religion in a complete different definition. Put another way when the middle class becomes upset they turn to religion. I know that Obama's Mother was an atheist, but to think that people turn to religion when upset is crazy. So Preacher Obama tries to not talk about anything except the gun issue. I saw Preacher Obama rant and rave about guns, and how Clinton probably never shot a gun. Is this the same person who spoke just recently about having the campaigns free from character assassinations. I'm not bitter, but I'm going to my place of worship and ask if Preacher Obama can find another line of work.
Posted by: Clarence | April 14, 2008 11:20 AM
His remarks WERE very elitist and he was pandering to his very generous Cali donors. Saying things THEY wanted to hear. Anna, you're stupid. B.O's the one who made the remarks, Hil was merely responding to them. So now she can't have an opinion? You Clinton haters make me soooo sick! She's the only chance at getting the WH back. I can't wait for Hil to kick his a** in PA!
Posted by: em | April 14, 2008 11:22 AM
I found his stated reason for coming to Christ and selecting Trinity interesting during that "Compassion" thing in which he and Hillary participated last night. His reason: He was a community organizer, organizing churches and others for political action when someone told him, "hey, if you're going to organize churches maybe you ought to attend one". So he chose Trinity, which coincidentally happened to be one of the most politically influential on Chicago's Southside.
So sounds like it wasn't as much one of those rapturous revelational experiences that drove this theretofore secular individual to Christ so much as it was political expediency. Not inconsistent with his political manueverings to date.
Who is this guy, really?
Posted by: Biggdawg | April 14, 2008 11:24 AM
His most "spirited response." I'm sorry this was the dumbest response as if he's venting to a family friend. Don't apologize if you offend anybody, and then go around denigrating others for ENFORCING YOUR platform. Shame on her, shame on her, she knows better, Oakley, taking shots, --who is borrowing the kitchen sink 60 second sound bite method?
Ps. your platform champions you as someone who can work with Republicans and their ideals, "reach over." She just reminded you of why what you said was far from that....If you mean what you say then you wouldn't give yourself any opportunity to mis-speak about this group of people and their ideals. You wouldn't generalize. Your either sorry for what you said, or sorry that you allowed her to get one over on you. Your spirited response seems to point to the latter.
Posted by: So this is what Obama looks like after he's had a few. | April 14, 2008 11:36 AM
Frankly, I think Obama was absolutely correct. He may have said it in a fashion that offends a lot of people but it's quite true. Just look at the way the Republicans have appealed to the "guns, God, and gays" crowd. I remember the devastation of my downstate town of Galesburg during the last 20 years and the ripple effects on the surrounding small communities. The GOP has done nothing to help the struggling economy and instead capitalizes on the bitterness. It's real.
Posted by: jude | April 14, 2008 12:13 PM
Can you believe that this is the choice we have for president of the United States ? We voters (or should be) should be ashamed at how we have abandoned OUR government and left it all to these second class ego trips to run our country. Why, how, whatever, is it that Obama is let off the hook so easily for the relationship he has with a radical preacher with close ties to Farakan ? How did Obama ever get elected in Illinois ? Clinton's background check should have set off red lights and blaring horns...but she's still in the running, saying whatever she thinks the electorate wants to hear regardless of her own stated positions to the contrary. Very Sad !
Posted by: Tom 3500 | April 14, 2008 12:29 PM
"Do we need a candidate for the job of President of the United States that seems to spend more time defending his and his wife's remarks than expaining what he's going to do for this country and what he plans to do to achieve those goals?"
I assume you got your pronouns mixed up here. It's Hillary (aka Annie Oakley) who spends her time trying to explain her fantasies and fabrications and struggling to get Bill's size 12 foot out of his mouth.
Posted by: R Riley | April 14, 2008 12:56 PM
Clinton has been race baiting and dirty fighting ever since Iowa. What a poor loser; you can see why so many don't want her back in the "peoples" house. Clinton is very dispicable and clearly has nothing to say for herself on her behalf as to why she is not generating the type of excitement and surge that Obama has been initiating since he opened his campaign.
Second, you would think that somebody would be talking about McCain and all his dirt and dirty deals...yet Clinton is so myopic and focused on tearing down Obama that she is literally campaiging tactily for McCain. Let's face it afterall, Bill Clinton is George Bush I's "step-son" and of course he was never the "first Black President," that is so far from the truth it's not even funny. Cut to the chase...Hill and Bill are Republicans, who want the highest office of the government to finish the fisacos they had going on since Bill left office.
Finally, given the repulsive "undead" that haunt the "peoples" house (George Bush/white house) anything would be better...not another McCain or anyone of that ilk like Hillary Clinton because are both poison and undead too.
Posted by: Scarlet | April 14, 2008 1:33 PM
FROM WILLIAM KRISTOL'S COLUMN IN TODAY'S N.Y. TIMES. I AM IN FULL AGREEMENT.
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What does this mean for Obamas presidential prospects? Hes disdainful of small-town America one might say, of bourgeois America. Hes usually good at disguising this. But in San Francisco the mask slipped. And its not so easy to get elected by a citizenry you patronize. And what are the grounds for his supercilious disdain? If he were a war hero, if he had a career of remarkable civic achievement or public service then he could perhaps be excused an unattractive but in a sense understandable hauteur. But what has Barack Obama accomplished that entitles him to look down on his fellow Americans?
Posted by: A.M. Byrnes | April 14, 2008 1:59 PM
Please, people--you can't seriously believe that Obama is the arrogant one. Clinton (either one) is the person who is demeaning working people. Do you really believe she bowls regularly? Drinks beer and a shot after work? Totes a gun (that might be the best argument of all for gun control if it were true--gun control which she supports)? Of course not. SHE is trying to pretend to be one of the "ordinary folk". And this is her stereotypic picture of what ordinary folk do and how you become one of them. That is the height of patronizing people. Being honest, respectful, helping one another, and working hard for a day's pay is how you get to be one of the working people. Clearly neither she nor her shadow candiate ex-prez knows anything about those traits.
Posted by: KayZee | April 14, 2008 2:19 PM
IF ONE MUST HAVE GUNS THESE DAYS, ONE NEEDS TO HAVE LOTS OF RELIGION; BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH ANGRY FROM SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE STUCK IN PAIN CAUSED BY THE MANY PEOPLE STUCK IN STUPID; TO INCLUDE A POLITICAL SYSTEM THAT ALLOWED DEREGULATION OF EVERY REGULATION THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE TO PERVENT THE SORT OF ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE NOW IN THE U S FROM BECOMING A REALITY…
BECAUSE OF THOSE STUCK IN STUPID MISTAKES, ONE NEED RELIGION-PLUS NOT TO KILL FOR THE SAKE OF KILLING...BECAUSE TO THE ONES IN DEEP PAIN, IN THOSE MOMENTS, THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY CAN THINK OF TO RELIEVE THEIR PAIN ONCE ALL ELSE THAT THEY CAN SEE HAS FAILED…
HAPPY PEOPLE WHO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BEING TREATED FAIRLY DO NOT KILL OTHER PEOPLE…
Posted by: Barbara | April 14, 2008 2:32 PM
That's all Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton ever do, is wag their finger in faces and talk down to people. She has no clue what she's even talking about just like she thought there was sniper fire at her in Bosnia!
"Bitters for Obama!"
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