Hiring ringers to act in your TV ads would surprise me if it was done by anyone other than the Clintons and Mark Penn. but with them it's just par for the course.

This is the first thing Clinton should be asked about at the debate tonight!

Hillary Clinton On Working Class Whites In 1995: "Screw 'Em":

Yes that First Lady Hillary Clinton comments after congressional elections. Sounds a bit bitter to me and a bit elitist.

"In January 1995, as the Clintons were licking their wounds from the 1994 congressional elections, a debate emerged at a retreat at Camp David. Should the administration make overtures to working class white southerners who had all but forsaken the Democratic Party? The then-first lady took a less than inclusive approach".

"Screw 'em," she told her husband. "You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They're doing nothing for you; you don't have to do anything for them."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html

Clinton (not) working class champion either. In her own words "screw 'em"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html

Leave it to the Clintons and Mark Penn to hire an out of state ringer to speak in their TV ads about the people of Pa.
Clintons campaign is a complete joke.

This guy is a loser, just like his candidate. Pathetic pandering at its finest.

He needs to go back to New Jersey and he can take Hillary with him.

Here's what you miss when you only read the blog items here:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-rezko-court-story,0,7957753.htmlstory
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- Witness tells of mysterious ‘consultant’
- Investment firm received contract from Caribbean.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-rezko-court-story,0,7957753.htmlstory
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- Witness tells of mysterious ‘consultant’
- Investment firm received contract from Caribbean.
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Question: Where did Obama go for a quick mid-heat campaign vacation with his family and all those secret service agents that let them skirt the searches you and I would go through?
Answer: The Caribbean.

OPEN YOU BANK ACCOUNTS, OBAMA. where are the 30 years of tax records=--the real ones?

Hey Adi--tell the gang at Obama HQ that usually the Huffington Post is in the bag for Obama.
I'll take the HRC version of working class champion (oh yes she
ih-is) anyday over a common criminal.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-rezko-court-story,0,7957753.htmlstory
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- Witness tells of mysterious ‘consultant’
- Investment firm received contract from Caribbean.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com
/news/local/chi-rezko-court-story,0,7957753.htmlstory
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- Witness tells of mysterious ‘consultant’
- Investment firm received contract from Caribbean.
Q: Where did the Obamas flee to for a 'quick vacation' with the kids and the secret service agents who would guarantee they or their bags or their kids' clothes would not be searched for cash or documents like yours or mine would?
A: the caribbean.
Conveniently after Hilary followed through with the Obamas' screams that hIlary release tax docs---she uppped the ante to 30 years.
HE'S DIRTY! HE CAN'T BE ELECTED IN THE FALL!
SPOILER ALERT!
HRC is not the enemy.
She's the solution.
Educate yourself.

The debate tonight should be revealing........
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/04/17/obama-clinton-abc-debate-4-16-2008/

HRC is not the enemy.
She's the solution.
Educate yourself.

Posted by: Sojourner Truth | April 16, 2008 7:46 PM

OPEN YOU BANK ACCOUNTS, OBAMA. where are the 30 years of tax records=--the real ones?

Posted by: Fowl O Themoney | April 16, 2008 7:42 PM

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The Clinton robots are about as dishonest and dillusional as Clinton is herself.

The Hillaryis44 meeting must have been canceled tonight...

Thanks Josh for pointing out what people from New England know--you're free to move from one state to another, and PA and NY share a very very long border.
(The Obama press release writers don't look at maps, much, I guess, unless the map is of a Muslim country where women must accept being 2nd class citizens).
Here's a neat story for you to look into:
What did the Obamas take with them on their caribbean vacation?
Cash, or documents?
Hey Jilly, tell Angellight and Julie Mack and the other kids travelin' with the messiah hoping to get a job in the white house that attacking HIlary right now is exactly what Howard Dean asked the campaigns not to do.
Hilary's been a class act.
Not so Obama. When he issues his W.O.R.M. statements (what i really meant) he ALWAYS blames Hilary for it making the news-- and it's always false! It is always a news story ahead of time.
rezko=Obama=Mccain.
He's a spoiler.
I think he's crooked and you don't wanna see it.
It would be a form of withdrawal from the messianic training the Obamas made you endure. (The campaign's looking more and more like a bad cult--the worse thing in the Mayhill Fowler piece was the bit where he said he wanted 'new people' to replace the party stalwarts. He doesn't mention anything about stolen elections. And he's a closet sexist who won't admit he likes his women a certain demure way).
Wake up.
Why you think he took that trip to the caribbean right about now--with all those secret service guys to hurry through the security? Taking cash? Documents about Rezko and god knows what?
Read a newspaper. Get off the blogs and live your life!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-rezko-court-story,0,7957753.htmlstory
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- Witness tells of mysterious ‘consultant’
- Investment firm received contract from Caribbean.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-rezko-court-story,0,7957753.htmlstory
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- Witness tells of mysterious ‘consultant’
- Investment firm received contract from Caribbean.
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Hey playdo--it's got an h on it.
And 44 isn't a more desirable age than 60 or 61--and if you think so, you've been with the wrong women (or man).
Keep it up kid, we old people have stamina, a work ethic, and we READ newspapers.

Clintons whole campaign has been a sham.

During this long primary campaign, Hillary Clinton has always been penned-in (no pun intended) by her own history. Years of being a target by media sources and Republicans raised her unfavorability numbers to near 50%, usually hovering around 45%-48%. This history makes it difficult for her to go on the attack because to do so plays directly into her unfavorables.

Clinton supporters have told me, over and over, that Clinton is a "known quantity," and, therefore, voters who don't like her already don't like her. In other words, her negative numbers were topped out.

Frankly, I never bought that argument. Her numbers could always go higher. And they have.

Which brings us to Obama's "bitter" comment..

As I wrote in a number of early posts by Hillary loyalists pumping Obama's "bitter" comment:

We'll see how it plays out. But I'm wondering if Hillary's fierce and repeated denunciations play into negative perceptions of her already held by many voters.

... on this subject, regardless of what one thinks of what Obama said, Hillary and her surrogates, particularly a hack like Vilsack who is counting desperately on a Hillary win so he can be the next Secretary of Education (or, who knows, maybe even VP pick), are at risk of overplaying their hand on this.

Hillary has high negatives for a reason. If voters don't think this as serious as Hillary and company continue to claim it is, this may come back to bite her.

We'll see. Judging by the Sunday morning shows and today's PA newspaper endorsements, Clinton and her pals may be in danger of simply looking desperate.

As I noted, the next few days will tell...

I have no control over what anyone says. It appears Hillary thinks she's onto something big. I am not convinced, judging by reactions in PA.

"Mountain" and "molehill" come to mind. Maybe this will really be Obama's undoing. Who knows?

Still, I think Hillary runs the risk of:

Appearing desperate, and
Playing into her negatives.

A look at the Rasmussen rolling favorable/unfavorable numbers show that Clinton's unfavorable number has dipped below 50% only eight days since February 11. And, in fact, her unfavorables have gone from 51% on April 13, the day Obama's comments broke, to 56% today.

Couple that with all of the latest Pennsylvania polls showing little or no movement among the electorate (and, yes, Clinton is headed for a win with only the margin to be determined), and Obama's continued strength in the Gallup, Rasmussen, Reuters and ABC/WaPo national Dem nomination polls, and the conclusion is that Hillary going on the attack drives up her unfavorables.

The boomerang effect that is unique to Clinton because of her history appears to be in full effect.

Out of the three news stories that have dominated the primary campaign over the last several weeks -- Wright, Tuzla and "bitter" -- it appears that Tuzla has had the biggest impact on the electorate. Today's ABC/Washington Post poll includes this paragraph:

Clinton is viewed as "honest and trustworthy" by just 39 percent of Americans, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, compared with 52 percent in May 2006. Nearly six in 10 said in the new poll that she is not honest and trustworthy. And now, compared with Obama, Clinton has a deep trust deficit among Democrats, trailing him by 23 points as the more honest, an area on which she once led both Obama and John Edwards.

The Tuzla fable played to Hillary's biggest weakness among voters: the belief that she is not honest/can't be trusted.

I know Clinton backers will tell me that Michelle Obama's comments, the Wright story and "bitter" will doom Obama in the general, but that is a hypothetical. He may be doomed, he may not be doomed. But he has shown an ability to respond to these crises which inevitably arise in a campaign.

What is a fact are Clinton's rock-solid negatives. And, yes, they can go up. Because voters have preconceived notions about her and every time she attacks or gets caught in even the mildest inaccuracy, all of these doubts about her bubble to the surface again.

Now, I think McCain is an eminently beatable candidate. Regardless of what polls show today, McCain has yet to be tested. (We've been too busy in the primary.) Frankly, he is a lousy candidate and a lousy campaigner in a very, very bad year for Republicans. The economy is not going to be improving before the general. We know Iraq will be the same, or, more likely, worse. McCain is the second coming of Bob Dole and he will meet the same fate as Dole, regardless of who the Democrats nominate.

But Clinton is hamstrung by her past. Would Hillary beat McCain? Of course! Even with her high negatives. But for her campaign to be making the argument that Obama is unelectable is laughable in light of her own problems. And saying that Obama is not electable, doe not, conversely, mean that she's more electable.

The flip side every superdelegate should be asking her/himself when Camp Clinton makes this argument in private conversations is, "But what are Hillary's chances versus Obama's?"

Given the last six weeks, I'd say Obama's chances are better than Clinton's. And both of their chances of becoming president are better than McCain's.

Hillay should have hired someone to play Annie Oakley for her because she sure can't pull it off.

"Today, the President of the
American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA), announced the endorsement of Senator Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States. Because the gun issue has recently become a factor in the Democratic primary in Pennsylvania, I want to share the remarks they made today:

"As a gun rights organization we have not come to this decision lightly. We were formed two years ago because our research shows that millions of gun owners wanted a change. They not only wanted an organization that would protect their gun rights but an organization that was also committed to the protection of their communities as well as the protection of our lands".

"We reached out to the Obama campaign several weeks ago to offer our support and approval as was reported by Paul Bedard of US News and World Report".

"We believe recent attacks on Senator Obama's stand on the 2nd Amendment and his commitment to our hunting and shooting heritage are unfair and American Hunters and Shooters Association is stepping up to set the record straight".

"Senator Obama has clearly demonstrated his commitment to the 2nd Amendment by his vote in support of the Vitter amendment to HR 5441, the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations bill of 2007. This amendment prevents the Government from confiscating guns in a time of crisis or emergency".

"Imagine how the citizens felt during Hurricane Katrina when government agents kicked in doors to confiscate law abiding citizens' guns at a time when they needed them the most. We know Senator Obama "gets it." To say that he is an elitist is patently ridiculous".

"To hunters and shooters everywhere, Senator Obama's vote demonstrated a fundamental understanding of the meaning of the 2nd Amendment which means he recognizes the individual right of all citizens to keep and bear arms. Senator Clinton, on the hand, failed to grasp the importance of this critical issue to hunters and shooters and voted against this Amendment. She turned her back on America's gun owners".

"In addition, Senator Obama's commitment to conservation and protection of our natural resources and access to public lands demonstrates to us his commitment to America's hunting and shooting heritage".

"Senator Obama will be a strong and authentic voice for America's hunters and shooters and it is with great pleasure that we endorse his candidacy".

http://www.huntersandshooters.com

The elitist Clintons and the elitist Republicans are afraid of Obama, no wonder Clinton is hiring actors to portray average Pa citizens...

CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS ARE AFRAID OF OBAMA:

Focusing this time on Rep. Jason Altmire, D-Pa., the National Republican Congressional Committee is trying to damn local Democrats with the comments about small towns made by Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.

"Jason Altmire Should Stop Flirting With Obama Campaign," says an NRCC news release sent to local media in the Keystone State. "Time for Superdelegate to Say Who He Supports."

NRCC Communications Director Karen Hanretty then says, "Congressman Jason Altmire, a superdelegate who’s been flirting with Barack Obama’s presidential campaign and who has received $10,000 from Obama's Hope Fund PAC, should denounce Sen. Obama’s statement that Pennsylvania voters are ‘bitter’ and ‘cling to guns or religion’ because they ‘can’t count on Washington.’

Barack Obama's comments about the bitterness of Americans let down by their government has prompted derision from the Clintons, John McCain and the Congressional Republicans, who are all saying roughly the same thing. Is it good for Democratic politics to have message discipline between Hillary Clinton and the GOP?

The motives behind the attacks on Obama are also similar. Of course Clinton is trying to deny Obama the nomination. She can't win, as is obvious to anyone who can figure out the delegate math, unless Obama drops out. So this is just another pathetic attempt at what the journalist Elizabeth Drew, writing about Clinton's tactics in this campaign, calls "molehill politics." If Obama is eventually seen as unelectable, then he'll have to step aside and, apparently according to the Clinton team, Clinton will become the nominee. At this point, that's her only way of winning the nomination.

So molehill politics it is, trying to create a controversy where there is none, trying to distort Obama's statements, and trying to deny the truth in what he said in favor of pushing sunny nostrums about how people getting screwed by our economic system of the last 40 years are upbeat, optimistic and resilient (all while jobs leave their communities, their kids leave home for big cities or become soldiers because they can't afford to become students, homeowners and parents, and they feel the government hasn't done a damn thing to help them out).

The GOP, it appears, also wants to deny Obama the nomination. There's no short-term gain for McCain to jump on Obama's comments, so jumping only on Obama suggests he'd prefer to run against Clinton. Likewise, if the NRCC really thought Obama's comments were lethal, they wouldn't blow their shot now with a press release, they'd tie vulnerable Democratic candidates to Obama at election time, when it could sink their chances (just as being tied to Bill Clinton sunk a lot of Democrats in 1994, and being tied to Bush helped sink many Republican incumbents in 2006). They wouldn't waste their shot now.

ABC's Jake Tapper has the correct interpretation of the NRCC's stated plan to use Obama's comments against several rural Democrats:

If local reporters ask these members of Congress what they think of Obama's remarks, that could extend this story and hurt him with all-important superdelegates. That's the NRCC's hope, anyway.

The Republicans don't want to run against Barack Obama. And Hillary Clinton is parroting the Republican attacks.

WOW!

This is incredible.

Seriously, if you're going to make the case that this ringer made, surely you'd find someone who is ACTUALLY a PA resident!

How STUPID can one campaign be.

Go ahead, Dems. Elect Hillary and watch the Republicans tear her a new one.

At least in Barack's case most of his mistakes are little slights that people with big boy and girl pants should be able to handle.

"Cling." Please.

What's wrong with "clinging" to God?

Barack's mistake isn't in saying that people do; it's in not recognizing that it's GOOD to cling to God.

The parable of the Prodigal Son is ALL about returning to and CLINGING to God.

Why don't you just rename the blog, Hillary's Swamp. That way there will not be any doubt as to who you are supporting!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE. NOW.

This seems to have become the cut and paste blog. Do any of these posters have any "original" thoughts?