Pelosi: Party should heed the will of the voters: The Swamp
 
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Posted March 16, 2008 6:48 PM
The Swamp

by Mark Silva

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says this about the Democratic Party’s campaign for president: “I think the tone could be improved.’’

It’s not so much the candidates, she suggested, as the surrogates.

“I think their people are going at each other, and I think that that's wearing out. I don't think people are interested in that,’’ Pelosi said on ABC This Week with George Stephanopoulos. “But I do think that before we go to the convention, we will have a nominee. We'll go into that convention unified, we'll come out of that convention unified, and we'll be ready to win.’’

And, the speaker said again in an interview Friday that was aired today, the decisions of the party’s “super-delegates’’ to the Democratic National Convention should “reflect’’ which candidate has claimed the most pledged delegates in a contest which she believes will end well before the convention in Denver.

She also reiterated her view that the party may have a “dream team’’ in November, but it will not include both Obama and Clinton on the same ticket.

“I'm just absolutely sure. I just know it. I just know it,’’’ she said. “I’ve been in politics a long time… and I've studied it very carefully, and I think that each one of them will make a great top of the ticket. And we will have a dream ticket, and it will contain one of them. ‘’

In the delegate chase which Obama is leading, the party’s super-delegates are best-advised to follow the will of the party’s voters, said Pelosi, a California Democrat.

“If the votes of the super-delegates overturn what happened in the elections, it would be harmful to the Democratic Party,’’ she said. “This is going to be over before we go to the convention… Pretty soon somebody will be far enough in front that this will come to an end.

What if one candidate has won the popular vote and the other claims the most delegates?

“It's a delegate race. In other words, one wins the Electoral College and one wins the popular vote -- guess who's president of the United States. The way the system works is that the delegates choose the nominee. Most likely the scenario described will not happen.’’

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By now, I wouldn't think that Clinton or any intelligent, caring American would want to be within 1,000 miles of Obama and his 20+ year relationship with the vile, anti-American Jeremiah Wright.

Wright makes Farrakhan look like Mr. Rogers. Goodbye Mr. Obama.


Ever since Hillary Clinton started getting her clocked cleaned by Obama she's been throwing every single dirty rotten lowdown Republican type despicable trick that she could possibly find to throw at him.

If her last wasn't "Clinton" she would already be out of this race.


This is why I've always hated the Clinton's, they act just like the scumbag Republicans act.


Pelosi is an idiot. She thinks that the voter's will should be honored but she can't honor the will of the House to pass a bill she does not like.

The woman is a moron. It will be a Clinton, OBama ticket this fall. The only thing under discussion is who gets to be on top.

God save us from the idiot Pelosi.


For those of you who dont understand political speak let me help you:

"I'm pulling for Obama because Hillary cant possibly win and she is getting in the way and only harming the party further."

there is no mathmatical way Clinton can win the nomination even if FL and MIch redo. Clinton is just trying to damage Obama's campaign so she can have a better chance in 4 years and so she can see him lose the general and say "TOLD YA SO."


Barack "No Drama" Obama '08!


Is it legal to wine and dine delegates?Is this considered a form of bribery??Who pays for these lavish feast??


I like Pelosi, but I have my doubts about the 'dream ticket' issue she mentioned earlier. I think at this point they are going to have to stick together to defeat MsSame. Right now it is a mathematical impossibility for Hillary to win this without super delegates, which in my belief should vote according to the will of the people. Obama-Clinton would be my bet, even though I can't stand Hillary and her deceptive shenanigans, for the good of the party I think that might be the way to go. Or Obama-Edwards, Obama-Richardson and Obama-McCaskill


This is all very frustrating. Here the Dems are still fighting, and Hillary is going full-on "scorched earth" and damn the consequences. Meanwhile McCain is visiting Iraq and Europe to meet world leaders and act presidential. Hillary should see that she's behind in delegates, behind in states, and behind in the popular vote. She won't catch Obama; the only reason she's still in this is because of her last name. Any other candidate w/ the party's viability in mind would have withdrawn by now. But hey -- the shenanigans of the last Clinton gave us 7+ years of George Bush's ineptitude. I guess Hillary wants another Clinton to give us another 4 years of "Bush Lite".


Pelosi is so laughable...

The dems have two very flawed candidates left, one is a socialist women that cries under pressure and the other is a socialist black muslim who hides behind a (so-called) christian church.

Mickey Mouse would be a better candidate than these two losers.

Nice job dems! You loons really know how to pick'em.

Paulo


While the Stock Market gets ready to implode next week, because of Bear Stearns bankruptcy, and $2.00 dollar sale to Morgan Stanley..................We fret over stupid things such as these.

Merrill Lynch and Lehman Brothers are next in line for insolvency. This same scandal, and lack of government action, caused the Great Depression. We are repeating history.....as we chat over stupid things which are not important......as a crisis in the financial markets is occurring.

A total stock market crash should be talked about, rather than trivial gifts being handed out from lobbyists.

None of these candidates has any clue about what is about to happen to the financial markets.....with a total lack of confidence from investors. Bear Stearns had a run on it's bank.
Many more runs on banks are ready to occur right in front of all these candidates faces.

How is it, none of them are talking about this, while I am talking about it?

It's because none of them know what the heck is going on out in the real world. They are blind. So what really qualifies them to be our president?

They don't even have a plan to get us out of this mess, that is going to occur in the next few weeks.

They are blind leaders trying to sit on welfare in the White House......while not having a clue about what is happening to the United States financial system.

These people will not save us from the collapse of the banking industry again. They are ignoring it....and Bush is just hoping it will go away if he ignores it long enough.

If you have over $100,000.00 in a banking institutution.....you had better diversify your holdings so no one bank has over 100 thousand dollars in it.
Banks are going to collapse......Stocks will most likely collapse.

Merrill Lynch and Lehman brothers are being shorted as we speak.


Jeremiah Wright says that the 9/11 attacks were due to American policies in the Middle East coming home to roost. Apparently, that makes him "vile" in the minds of some Sun readers. Guess most of the rest of the world (Europe included) are pretty "vile" because pretty much everyone outside Washington (and the US Denial Belt) already believe that.

As for his relationship to Obama, is the Senator now his pastor's keeper? Can we simply concentrate on what the Senator himself says and believes? All else is just partisan windbaggery.


The whitewater, Vince Forster, Rose Law Frim Billing Records, Lincoln Bedroom Rental, White House Airline Tickets-Gate Clintons want to damage Obama so that he loses against McCain in the hope that she can try again in four years to win the nomination for the Democratic Party. That is how unscrupulous and selt centred the immoral Clintons are.


Clinton is wrecking the party. The math says she cannot win at this point without legal wrangling. Obama doesn't want her on his ticket because she'd only drag him down. I think sooner or later the party elders are going to step in and make her bow out for the good of the party.


Why having superdelegates if they have to follow the delegates majority?

Superdelegates presence is relevant only because they can vote for who they want and therefore possibly differ from the delegates majority.

Pelosi says that we should not abide by the rules, which are that the superdelegates can vote how they want. No, for her superdelegates should not matter.

But if the rules don't matter for that issue, why should the rules matter for Florida and Michigan?

"The Democratic Party" or how to screw up an unlosable election...


Say there, Pittsburgh, PA voter...
Scumbag Republicans? Why is it that Dems have all of the internet hate sights? Believe me, we know more about Obama here. Nice guy. Salesman. Socialist. Lookin' for that free ride, are ya?


Obama is now damaging the credibility of the Democratic party. He CHOSE to support and associate with Jeremiah Wright.

For 20+ years, Obama and his family have sat clapping in the pews of this vile, racist, Anti-American clown's church.

Anyone who was a "uniter," as Obama claims he is, would have walked out of that church decades ago.

Anyone who wasn't racist, as Obama claims he isn't, would have walked out of that church decades ago.

Anyone with good judgment, as Obama claims he has, would have walked out of that church decades ago.

Anyone who loved America, as Obama purports, would have walked out of that church decades ago.

Anyone with good moral character, as Obama claims he has, would have walked out of that church decades ago.

Of course he knew about the hate monger Wright. He has been neck deep in Jeremiah Wright for 25 years. Obama enjoyed Wright's rhetoric and agreed with him -- otherwise he would have left the church and severed his relationship with Wright decades ago.

Obama is con man. Nothing more.


Obama is AntiAmerican and AntiPatriotic. This golden-throated promiser of good will has not passed the American Patriot test of heartfelt love for the land and the Constitution. By being AntiPatriotic, Obama is cursing the hundreds of thousands of Americans that have paid the ultimate price(of life) to make America the place that it is today. We've already suffered 8 years of a terrible president, let's not make it worse by electing a hypocrite of American freedom and tradition.

Obama's God and Pastor "Da*n" America for defending herself:
http://tinyurl.com/3x5md4

Michelle Obama slips and let's out the "Let's Hate America" sentiment that she studies at church:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVLc7B5cLLc

Obama doesn't follow US code, and more importantly shows that he is not a heartfelt patriot by either forgetting or refusing(which is worse?) to place his hand on his heart during the playing of the National Anthem (although all other candidates have their hand on their heart):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccbPVMBKQpA&feature=related
And here's the link to the US Code which shows that government officials(as in senators) should place their right hand on their heart during the National Anthem:
http://tinyurl.com/3346o7
and
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/36/301.html

The President is responsible for upholding the Flag of the United States. Obama's "refusing" to wear the flag on his chest shows there is a problem with his character as he's displaying the hatred he has for America and everything that has happened for the past 200+ years to make America what it is today. No childish game of defacing the flag should be tolerated by a person who is trying to become the #1 Patriot in the land. No person that desecrates our stars and stripes should be allowed the responsibility of protection our Constitution and our way of life. Ask Obama, if wearing the flag does not show patriotism, why are soldiers and presidents that are no longer with us having their coffins draped in the colors of the United States? Our United States Flag is no parlor joke, this is a symbol of America(that hundreds of thousands have died in protection of) that you're making seem like a "pin made in china".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccbPVMBKQpA&feature=related


Everyone makes mistakes and flubs up, but when the same patterns of flubs continue to reappear, it becomes obvious what a person's true character is all about.

Denouncement after Denouncement - after awhile people should wonder how a person got themselves into the situation in the first place. Obama has run out of denouncements, it's time to wake up and smell the Rat America!


Steven Wilson - Amen brother!
Anyone else not recognizing that the media is shaping this 'already completed' primary? No? Ok, stay tuned for the next campaign paper-fetcher saying something bad about the competetition - this will be run every hour 4 times an hour. What won't be focused on is the collapsing economy, the increasing gas and healthcare costs, and the disintigration of retirement standards in this country.


A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) the cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate
(stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!


Poster David says "As for his relationship to Obama, is the Senator now his pastor's keeper? Can we simply concentrate on what the Senator himself says and believes?"
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Sorry, Dave, actions speak louder than words. I can't care what Obama says now. Words are cheap for Obama.

Fact is, he has associated himself and financially supported one of the most hate-filled people in the world since Hitler. Obama is bad, bad news.


Why is this a given to either party?Just because it Obama.I recall this is still a democracy. I am not sure it locked up as everyone say it is.Or they wouldnt be all this controversial matter stirring around. People are finally waking up and deciding for themself. I hope when it all said and done both candidates will be supportives to the party and not do anymore damage to the party. Again the American people will lose out once again. And again.Maybe then we should start cleaning house in our local states.


The American economy is in a melt down. With both parties and the candidates from them out of touch with reality. Anyone who believes any of them is a panaccea for the turmoil ahead are comatose between their ears. MAJOR change is needed to put the country back on track. The Repubican & Democrats are both part of the problem and not in any position to effect real change.


Every Democrat and everyone else in the country wants someone to lead who is great with people. Hillary is the second best candidate in that regard. As an intelligent, relational woman she had a good ability to listen and relate on an interpersonal level. It will take that sort of talent and paradigm to help this country recover its nerve and the friendships that will assist us in protecting ourselves and others.

But she is most certainly the second best candidate with these gifts. Barack Obama is a genius with people. Though I do believe he will mature in his choices of whom to befriend and trust, and I include his choice of church in this line, the great thing about Barack is that he truly loves and listens to people and they know it. This works with unions, it works with Iranians, it works with the Chinese, it works with women and corporate CEO's. It works because he is transparent and truthful.

He's running against a family who has lied to Congress and a former President who has been impeached for doing so. I might have been screaming that on network television. But Barack knows how to forgive.

He's running against a Republican who has chased strippers and whose claim to 'heroism' is that he crashed a plane and spent years in a Hanoi jail. It's not like McCain carried wounded soldiers on his back to safety or negotiated the Camp David Accords. But Barack will probably say none of this.

Is he as tough as Kennedy? Will he be able to stare an evil world leader in the eye and not blink as he leads the most deadly force and the greatest force for good that the world has ever known? No one knows. We didn't know with Kennedy either. We never do. We do know Barack's ability to grow relationships and build community is the single most important leadership talent in the modern world. The USSR proved that focussing solely on weapons and "defense" is self destructive. How much work would any of us get done if we didn't have neighborhood watch and police and fire as we go out and work and raise our children? We need friends and we need to be friends and this is a principle that works locally and globally.

Bush has accomplished nothing. The world is more dangerous and the U.S. in in more danger with less allies than ever in our history. We owe money to our "friends" and we are far less respected by those who wish us harm. Barack can rebuild our friendships so that others will watch our backs as we watch theirs. People will rightly trust Barack, and, when he is wrong, people will rightly trust him to make it right. It's been an awesome campaign as we have watched him build an amazing community right before our, and Hillary's, eyes, passing many many years when Bill and Hillary had the time and motivation to build those same friendships.

If Barack's not everything we hope for now, I do believe he's the most likely to become all we ask him to be for us. People who ask for "experience" may not realize the world is changing at the speed of light. Barack's singular focus in school and in public office has been to build community and that's the "experience" that neither a guy who cheats on his wife or lies to Congress or a guy who invades the wrong country really understands. Of course Hillary didn't lie to Congress just as Barack didn't say what his former pastor said about America. The difference is, Bill is till on her team and Barack's pastor was only his pastor. Hillary is old school -- and yet, she's far more likely to improve relations with those who would help us protect our citizens and those who are civilized in the rest of the world than McCain. So she's a great second choice if she's as willing to improve as Obama has been.

If we love America we need to find more people like Barack Obama to take office; we need to raise our children to attend college with the mission to make a positive difference regardless of money, and to chose professions which leave a legacy that improves people lives. This is the Democratic way, and those of us who care about the future of America should dream and work for all three areas of our government to be led by honorable, relational, intelligent people like Barack Obama.

And yes, still, we need to hold him out to the light of day and tell him we will not put up with stupid land deals and crazed pastors any more than we put up with the horrors of Chaney and Bush, no matter how scared or even hopeful we are.

Steve Friederang
Corona, California


Peolsi, what an IDIOT. She fit right in with the Maryland politicans (who are ruining the state). Thank God she went to SF were she's ruining that state as well. I'm just glad i can't be blamed for what she's doing to this country. What their percentage rating??? 14% or so? The lowest ever!!


Pelosi certainly badger Dean to COUNT the VOTES in Florida & Michigan. But, it appears she, like Obama, is content to let SELECTED voters make the decision.


We all know that the Hillary Clinton political campaign is closely scripted and the daily press releases reflect the Clinton dodge ball concept of political strategy and their innate ability to get away with their tactics they believe to be if not high impact at least necessary.

The Clintons' battle is of course personalized to attack Barrack Oboma from every conceivable direction and somehow they know that Oboma cannot respond to all of their escalating attack points and therefore he will slowly but surely seem to be inadequate to the task of being the Democrats Presidential Candidate and succumb to their terror tactics.

The Clinton machine has many assets including Bill. He can say or do anything in behalf of the Clinton machine including raising money for his foundation from foreign interests whose names he refuses to release to the Federal Govt. and whose objectives oppose our laws and interests. Seems like the same old Bill to me.


We all know that the Hillary Clinton political campaign is closely scripted and the daily press releases reflect the Clinton dodge ball concept of political strategy and their innate ability to get away with their tactics they believe to be if not high impact at least necessary.

The Clintons' battle is of course personalized to attack Barrack Oboma from every conceivable direction and somehow they know that Oboma cannot respond to all of their escalating attack points and therefore he will slowly but surely seem to be inadequate to the task of being the Democrats Presidential Candidate and succumb to their terror tactics.

The Clinton machine has many assets including Bill. He can say or do anything in behalf of the Clinton machine including raising money for his foundation from foreign interests whose names he refuses to release to the Federal Govt. and whose objectives oppose our laws and interests. Seems like the same old Bill to me.


Above comment: "I think sooner or later the party elders are going to step in and make her bow out for the good of the party."

WHO are the party elders? Ted Kennedy? Howard Dean? Let's look at history: Nixon stepped down rather than subject nation to impeachment, Clinton thought only of himself...Now we witness Hillary doing the same...there is no hope. I predict McCain will win only because people are more sick to death of the fighting at home, than the fighting overseas.


Above comment: "I think sooner or later the party elders are going to step in and make her bow out for the good of the party."

WHO are the party elders? Ted Kennedy? Howard Dean? Let's look at history: Nixon stepped down rather than subject nation to impeachment, Clinton thought only of himself...Now we witness Hillary doing the same...there is no hope. I predict McCain will win only because people are more sick to death of the fighting at home, than the fighting overseas.


Steve says: "If we love America we need to find more people like Barack Obama to take office"
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Anyone who loves America won't be caught in the same city with Obama and his pal Jeremiah Wright let alone vote for him.

Are you out of your mind? For the last QUARTER CENTURY Obama has financially supported -- including more than $20,000 last year alone -- a vile, hardcore, anti-American racist in Jeremiah Wright.

It's apparent that the far left will continue to cheer for Obama regardless of what a liar and racist he turns out to be. Good luck with that Steve. But the majority of this nation will not vote for hate in '08 and support your man Obama.


The Dream Team previously referred to, could only be Pelosi and Hillary. Just think of the possibilities-after the elections results both of them could could retire and never be heard from again.Or they could retire on Social Security.


Obama is out! It is not possible for him to win in November. The Wright Anti-American speeches that Obama did listen to for many years has sealed his fate. And rightfully so. Now that we all know about the Anti-American rhetoric, he is asking Americans to vote for him to run America. That is audacity. He should step down. And Pelosi, if she does have the political knowledge that she says she does, knows this. And so do the Super Delegates.


So much venom here!

In the end the American people will reject all the hate and divisiveness and choose a genuine uniter.

Obama will survive the mud and the guilt by association and will be our next president.


Democralypse Now.


Hillary needs to put aside her ego and drop out, if she were anyone other than a Clinton she would have already been forced to drop out of this race, she's losing so badly that it won't make a damn bit of difference if she wins PA or not.


We need to start going after John W McCain, this guy is nothing more than Bush/Cheney on steroids.


McCain/Rev John Magee:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/28/pastor-john-hagee-endorses-mccain-donohue-freaks-out/


McCain/Rev Rod Parsley...

http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html


Remember that McCain sought out these endoresments, they didn't seek him out.


A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) the cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate
(stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Posted by: Jeff | March 16, 2008 09:10 PM


Nice try college Republican,

In one year, having only a very small majority, the Dems are supposed to fix the slide that the Republic Party started us on in 2001?
Goodluck trying to sell that BS line, I look forward to the Democratic super majority the Dems are going to have in Congress this coming 08.

No wonder you support John McCain/Bush, you know about as little about economics as he does.

http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh224%2Fleavinit%2Fbudget_deficit_or_surplus.gif&searchTerm=deficit&pageOffset=18


Can we simply concentrate on what the Senator himself says and believes?
Posted by: David | March 16, 2008 8:48 PM

David:You may get your wish very soon, rumor has it they have him on tape saying" F--- the white man" from a John Hopkins speaking engagement from the early nineties. It was said after the speech to one of his associates , but caught on tape. If this is true, Barack Hussein Obama won't be running for anything, except laps on the Midway.


Anyone with good moral character, as Obama claims he has, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Of course he knew about the hate monger Wright. He has been neck deep in Jeremiah Wright for 25 years. Obama enjoyed Wright's rhetoric and agreed with him -- otherwise he would have left the church and severed his relationship with Wright decades ago.
Obama is con man. Nothing more.

Posted by: Tye Rogers | March 16, 2008 9:02 PM


Tye,

Listening to your schtick reminds me of exactly why I hate Hillary, she's a freaking ATHEIST..


Senator Obama has condemned the remarks of Reverend Wright, not the man himself.

"Trinity United Church of Christ is a great gift to our wider church family and to its own community in Chicago," says UCC General Minister and President John H. Thomas. "At a time when it is being subjected to caricature and attack in the media, it is critical that all of us express our gratitude and support to this remarkable congregation, to Jeremiah A. Wright for his leadership over 36 years, and to Pastor Otis Moss III, as he assumes leadership at Trinity."

Thomas says he has been saddened by news reports that "present such a caricature of a congregation that been such a great blessing."

"These attacks, many of them motivated by their own partisan agenda, cannot go unchallenged," Thomas emphasizes. "It's time for all of us to say 'No' to these attacks and to declare that we will not allow anyone to undermine or destroy the ministries of any of our congregations in order to serve their own narrow political or ideological ends."
Perhaps some in the media were a little too quick to demonize a church. The United Church of Christ is by no means a small-scale organization.

Located in the heart of Chicago's impoverished Southside, Trinity UCC's vast array of ministries include career development and college placement, tutorial and computer services, health care and support groups, domestic violence programs, pastoral care and counseling, bereavement services, drug and alcohol recovery, prison ministry, financial counseling and credit union, housing and economic development, dozens of choral, instrumental and dance groups, and diverse programming for all ages, including youth and senior citizens.

Thomas, a member of Pilgrim Congregational UCC in Cleveland, has attended worship at Trinity UCC on a few occasions -- most recently on March 2 -- and says he is "profoundly impressed" with the 6,000-member congregation.

Among Trinity UCC's crowning achievements, Thomas says, is its work with young people.

"While the worship is always inspiring, the welcome extravagant, and the preaching biblically based and prophetically challenging, I have been especially moved by the way Trinity ministers to its young people, nurturing them to claim their Christian faith, to celebrate their African-American heritage, and to pursue higher education to prepare themselves for leadership in church and society," Thomas says.

The Rev. Steve Gray, the UCC's Indiana-Kentucky Conference Minister, describes Trinity UCC as a "jewel."

"It's everything a Christian community is supposed to be," says Gray, who has been working with Trinity UCC for the past three years to develop a new UCC congregation in Gary, Ind. "Trinity has given well over $100,000 in support of its partnership with us, and in 15 months of regular meetings with Jeremiah Wright, we always found him to be a man of gracious hospitality, humor, generosity, who paid attention to detail but also a man who does not call attention to himself."

Trinity UCC has been involved in planting more than 15 new congregations, according to the UCC's Evangelism Ministry in Cleveland.

Gray, a member of First Congregational UCC in Indianapolis, has worshiped several times at Trinity UCC and is most impressed by the overflowing sense of welcome it extends to visitors.

"When you're Euro-American, the people [at Trinity UCC] are so exceedingly gracious, warm and welcoming. They hug you and say, 'Welcome to our church!'"
That doesn't sound too divisive, does it?

Many, including Gray, point with appreciation to Trinity UCC's generous support of denominational and ecumenical ministries. From 2003 to 2007, Trinity UCC gave more than $3.7 million to Our Church's Wider Mission, the UCC's shared fund for connectional mission and ministry.
So it doesn't seem like Caucasian-Americans who've been there are too scared of TUCC. I wonder if there's a reason for that. Hmm.

'Extraordinary outreach'

The Rev. Bennie Whiten, retired Massachusetts Conference Minister who prior served for 15 years as associate director of Chicago's Community Renewal Society, says, "Trinity was one church that we could always rely on to respond almost immediately. They have been very, very involved in the community in so many meaningful ways."

Noting the church's work in health care, early childhood education and economic development, Whiten says, "The scope of their concern and outreach is extraordinary. It's really just an outstanding congregation."

Whiten, a member of Pilgrim UCC in Oak Park, Ill., is especially taken with Trinity UCC's commitment to the need and importance of quality theological education. More than 60 members of Trinity UCC are currently enrolled in seminary and pursuing masters-level degrees. Moreover, the congregation pays for students' tuition costs.

"They firmly believe in the UCC's commitment to an educated, seminary-trained clergy," Whiten said, "and they have probably had more people feeling the call to ministry than any other church in the denomination."
It makes sense that a community organizer would be attracted to a church so deeply involved with social activity. Doesn't it?

The Rev. Susan Thistlethwaite, president and professor of theology at UCC-related Chicago Theological Seminary, says Trinity UCC is a model church in the way it supports its people in discerning and cultivating their gifts for ministry, both lay and ordained.

"Another thing I really appreciate about Trinity is that its ministries are always directed both inward, toward the congregation itself, and also outward in supporting other congregations ecumenically and supporting community organizations that are dedicated to lifting up the wider society," Thistlethwaite says. "We have had so many fine students come through Chicago Theological Seminary who were helped to discern their call to ministry through this church's dedication to serving the wider church."
We'd have probably known about it for awhile now if Wright was as consistantly-controversial as some have made him out to be. Indeed, after decades of sermons, only a select few have been discovered to be controversial.

'Jesus and justice'

The Rev. Kenneth L. Samuel, pastor of Victory UCC in Stone Mountain, Ga., says he is impressed that Trinity UCC "promotes spirituality and piety while also being emphatic about social justice."

While Trinity UCC is the denomination's largest congregation, Samuel's 5,300-member church is the UCC's second largest. Founded in 1987, it joined the UCC in 2004.

"Trinity was really one of the churches that inspired me to want to affiliate with the United Church of Christ," Samuel said. "My church was originally National Baptist and Southern Baptist, but it was the critical-thinking that [Trinity] brought to this work, the justice work, that helped me to want to become a part of the denomination. I have no regrets about that."

Samuel says that, during Wright's 36-year ministry at Trinity, Wright has not been afraid to tackle difficult topics, while staying equally committed to preaching "Jesus and justice."

"There have been two major sins in the Black church that many Black churches will not address – homophobia is one and sexism is another," Samuel says, "and Jeremiah Wright has been one of the articulate, courageous voices that has not been afraid to address these critical issues. If he can do that and still maintain his close connectivity to the Black community, and stay grounded in the Black ethos, that's what has inspired me."
That is pretty impressive, don't you think?


It's simple: Barack Obama can bring together all who want unity. Hillary cannot. Barack Obama can inspire all who seek a solid reason to hope. Hillary cannot. Barack Obama is capable of taking on John McCain and winning. Hillary is not. The change Barack Obama offers is real. Hillary is simply Billary all over again. McCain is little more than Bush-lite ... both offering 'change' that big business and established politics can just go on as usual with. I'm another Republican waiting to turn Democrat.


Same old stuff. Obama and Clinton have zero presidential skills. Obama's claim to fame is that he didn't vote to go to Iraq 5.5 years ago and stop Hussein who at that time had killed 500K+ Kurds. Guess if Hussein had killed that many blacks, he would have voted for the war. He is a horrible hypocrite who cannot be trusted. He will take this county to the lowest levels we have ever seen.
The Dems talk big, but look at what has happened since they took over Congress? Their approval rating is 50% worse than Bush's~~!!! Just think how bad it will be when they have all 3 pieces of the government and they turn us into the next Brazil.
Socialism here we come! You think home values are down now,...just wait until 2009 after they screw up the capital gains tax again and hurt everyone who has any investment property. Going down in flames.


It is so sad to watch so many Dems keep making excuses for the Obama campaign as it falls apart. As the true Barack Obama emerges and drops his guard let us hope the brainwashed start to wake-up.


People... people... people...
For the love of god... use your heads for something besides hat racks.

Re-Vote the two dummy states and dump ALL SuperDelegates forrom the nomination process.

Is this too hard to understand ? Does is smell too much like democracy ?

WAKE UP. This is fair... this is 'We the People"


People... people... people...
For the love of god... use your heads for something besides hat racks.

Re-Vote the two 'dummy states' and dump ALL SuperDelegates from the nomination process.

Is this too hard to understand ? Does is smell too much like democracy ?

WAKE UP. This is fair... this is 'We the People"


Hi Derrick,

I do understand your comment. And I have to tell you I am embarrassed with Barack's church though I probably understand the statement from a perspective you might not be trying to.

The Bible speaks of countries whose leaders are self serving, who war for personal gain, who put money before God. Our government, as with the rest of us is sinful. This, of course, is not absolute. We do some good things --even some great things. We give more and serve more than most world governments. But we do have sin in our nature and those in leadership are at least as guilty as the rest of us. Christian's are called to acknowledge our sin and to turn from it. The pastor lost his mind, but most pastors would say that our government is sinful and that, as with the Israel of the Old Testament we are indeed damned unless we become perfect. Christian's also belive we are saved by grace, which means that Christ died as a substitute for our perfection. The pastor was referring to that in a highly dramatic way. His frenetic screaming was meant to shock people into submitting to God -- I'm afraid he's pretty far off scripture if he thinks screaming for God to damn America is scriptural in any way. But, being human the reverent is also quite lost. Giving some people a pulpit and a microphone sometimes makes them think they are right all the time and are not required to exhibit humility. I'm sure he did many good things, many Godly things -- but it was most certainly time to get him off the pulpit. Some time in any country in Africa might help him realize America is just one of many fallen countries than need kindness, forgiveness and love.

Now, to God, this is non-partisan. The Democrats have voted for and legally allow government support for abortion, which might well be murder, even in the scientific definition. On the other hand, we've killed many hundreds of thousands of Iraqis -- which some people would say is also murder if the object of the war is financial or power instead of protection or the salvation of Iraq's citizens, which has been claimed by many of our leaders on both sides of the isle -- but the far right more than most (including Evangelical church leaders right here in Orange County California). I'm not sure this war is particularly scriptural and it will be interesting to see how many far right pastors continue to quote Romans and the scriptural requirement o support our government if Obama yanks us our of the Middle East (which I don't see as his promise).

Of course, as someone said in this blog, there are bigger issues than what Obama's pastor said, or even about who gave what to Senators to vote one way or another.

But Obama knows all of this and recognizes it. He's not afraid you won't vote for him because he is a Christian. He, obviously, didn't choose a church because it would help him get elected -- he graduated summa cum lauda, so he's smart enough to know which church might be best if he wanted to get votes.

It took me a while to recognize this myself. It's a pattern. It's something Kerry didn't have the balls to do -- even he didn't tell us Iraq was wrong. Kerry might have lost his balls when he married one of the most selfish and rude women he could have found. The way she treated the press and others was horrific.

And, I must tell you, I'd really like to see Obama tell us all that, though the Democratic leaders support abortion, he does not. It's another chink in his armor. It makes me think twice.

I had a political science professor who as an advisor to Reagan who had us raise our hands if we thought we could become Congressmen and not vote against our conscience on any issue. When half of us raised our hands he told us point blank that we'd never do anything good for our constituents our our country. Our form of government is BASED on compromise. Fifty states all have agendas and you have to give to get things done. The system was based that way. Obama was a professor of Constitutional law for nine years. Running for Congress and running for President, he recognizes this. You must do the same.

I respect you for thinking and writing in this and other forums. Though God is black and white, our government more closely reflects our human nature. We need to elect someone who is most able to bring people together. In this sense, I think you need to watch Obama do just that. McCain will polarize the world just as Bush has. He's not so good at it (barely graduating from the naval Academy and a history of going against orders for his own fun), but he does come from a highly gifted military family. His father and his grandfather took orders well. They were not politicians; they did not seek or negotiate cooperation from other civilized countries. it wasn't their talent and it isn't McCains. But it must be the strength of the next leader of the free world.

I believe you had two Republicans who might have been very well suited to this job -- but they couldn't get people in their own country to support them. In fact, I would be willing to bet you Barack will get more votes than they would have from Republicans.

The great thing about this system of ours is that one of us is going to be right and the other is still going to be an American. God bless you! Steve


mrs. pelosi, let you just concenttrate on running congress because your performance is below par...

you have to be not bias because you are creating a mess to DNC!


I am furious at Howard Dean's lack of resolve in recognizing that the Democratic Party in Florida was at the mercy of the Republican-controlled government, both in the setting of the original Primary date and in turning down the mail-in ballot re-vote! Howard Dean cannot disenfranchise millions of voters! Go to the Democratic Party website and let him know!

I am furious at Nancy Pelosi's underestimation of the massive damage done by Jeremiah Wright, and, vis-a-vis Obama in not owning up to his obvious knowledge of such long-term, ongoing hate-speech by his very own spiritual advisor and pastor and the now, more-than-obvious influence this has had on Obama's (and Michelle's) "judgment!" OBAMA NEEDS TO STEP AWAY FROM THE RACE! DROP OUT! These are not merely sound-bytes, as some in the media outlets would have you believe!!!!! Out of the realm of such hate-speech, Hitlers have arisen!!!!! STEP AWAY FROM THE RACE, OBAMA!!!! Contact Pelosi and let her know!


Well too bad for Hilly, obviously elementary mathematics are beyond her comprehension. OK Hilly let's review. If you hold a fund raising event and you take in $1.9 million, then report $300,000 to the Government, how much have you sandbagged and laundered? Answer: $1.6 million.
Wait here's another one, if your opponent in the primary has 1617 delegates to date and you have 1498 then who is the front runner? Answer: NOT YOU!
I guess they don't teach real world math at Harvard Law, the way I heard they teach the 3 M's. You know, Making Money, Counting Money, and Keeping it away from the Government. Hilly must have slept through that second course, what with the way she reports her campaign contributions and her assumption that she has the winning numbers in this primary. Well concerning the latter I can only suggest that perhaps one of her close advisor's should write these numbers in Large digits on a white sheet rock wall the next time Hilly's in the office. And then they might just remind her that "De-nile" ain't just a river in Egypt.


setrak:

"BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!!!"

SORRY, WRIGHT HAS CONDEMNED OBAMA TO DEFEAT!



Barack = 6

Hussei = 6

NObama = 6

Thank-you Rev. Wright

Because of you, America has woken up and can now see the anti-Christ.
(666)

Paulo


Barack is TOAST after the scandals that have come out.. He knows it.. He has so many strikes against him.

Disloyal to supporters (Alice Parker, Hillary Clinton), Shady deals (Rezko), Poor circle of friends (Ayers, Wright), continued endorsement of extremism and anti-American talk (Wright), his own anti-American talk (wont ever wear lapel pin), difficulty to say simple yes to American song (CNN-AC360 interview 3/14/08), integrity issues and conflict of interest in healthcare (Michelle’s part-time job with big pay doing the work of channeling uninsured away from a good hospital).. the money trails, the winking on NAFTA to Canada (and taking 5 tries to come clean), the “forgetfulness” on money dealings with Rezko (and later now, just beginning to come out with it), the unravelling of Rezko (and it is still in the beginning of the story), difficulty explaining his platform (beyond slogans and catchy phrases), lack of clear and cohesive plans to support plan (and lack of fluency and consistency around own platform), indiscreminately co-sponsoring 400+ bills in the year he is running for office to be able to say “look what I am doing” (has he even read them?) and being one of the top people not at the voting station.. (his voting record is awful — next only to McCain’s and the other Republican guy with amnesia/health problem), voting “present” too many times, and to top it all off, taking up the committee chair role on Afghanistan and not holding a single substantial hearing for 15+ months… [and saying they are important!.. oh really!!]

Any person without significant accomplishmnets cannot rise to leadership. There are three prior stages before leadership: Learning, Proving expertise and garnering credibility, Becoming a coach and multiplying one’s impact. These are stages that he has not completed.

Instead, he tried to get on the coat-tails of other leaders with their words. It was impactful… because of all the historic implications..

If he got there it would have been incredibly difficult because he has no support system developed from the earlier stages.

Instead now he has to figure out how to use words to keep the momentum when his shady/unholy/unpatriotic support system has been both questioned and can no longer openly support him.

Barack may not recognize what is the honorable thing to do.. His party leadership is going to have to help him get there.

There is no need for him to continue his quest anymore. He is DONE! ENOUGH!!

DNC Leaders, take note.. You can no longer put forth Barack Obama regardless of his middlename! He cannot recover from this utter failure to demonstrate a principals and core.. America can see thru this one!

AMERICA WILL NOT BE HOODWINKED!!


STEP DOWN NOW OBAMA!! WE DON’T NEED A CANDIDATE OR PRESIDENT WHO HAS ANTI-AMERICAN MENTORS!

DNC LEADERS, PLEASE GIVE HIM A CLEAR AND UNEQUIVOCAL MESSAGE THAT WE ARE THRU WITH HIM.. AND WE NEED TO MOVE ON WITHOUT HIM!!!

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Pelosi has shown that she is not up to her job by breaking almost every single promise she has made to the people.

So much for her claim of staying neutral by making this divisive remark.

On top of that, she shows complete ignorance about the rules for the superdelegates. If the superdelegates are supposed to vote 'automatically' with the popular votes or pledge delegates then why have them in the first place? The superdelegates are supposed to exercise their independent judgment, outside of the popular and pledge delegates. Neither Obama nor Clinton has the required votes - a perfect situation for the superdelegates to exercise their judgement without pressure of the top leaders.

The DNC leaders such as Pelosi are driving democrats to switch party!


Barack Obama has not earned any credibility on the international front.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_6STL1O2PU&NR=1

Just Words: Afghanistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgNj6nd4i4M&feature=related (sad!!)

and this by Quinn & Rose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REBkdAbVu0o&NR=1

At first, I thought 'Naive'.. but that is not the word for it... Barack simply doesnt know international politics. Living and growing in Indonesia and going to a school two schools of two different faiths does not give one international politics experience!!!

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These news media articles are only a few that document the fact that Hillary does have Foreign Policy experience to be our next President.

Hillary did significant international work in: Northern Ireland, Kosovo, Bosnia, China, Rwanda.

N. Ireland & Kosovo: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/10/235744/616
Hillary Met with Macedonian President and Prime Minister offering Economic Development Package. (Chicago Tribune, 5/16/99)

First Lady Brings Publicity, Aid to Macedonia. Hillary Clinton met with Prime Minister and and Parlimentary President. (Washington Post, 5/15/99)

Northern Ireland Secretary Mo Mowlami, "Hillary is one of the essential reasons Ireland had peace. Without her we would have no economic boom." (Talk Magazine, 8/1999)

Hillary met with Irish leaders who wanted to 'pay their respects' for her work on behalf of peace in Northern Ireland. (Associated Press, 12/7/2007)
No wonder they endorse her so heartily. Here is a good summary of the extracts from varioius souces and a video clip:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/irishamericans/
China speech at a global forum.
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/hillaryclintonbeijingspeech.htm
Hillary has Real international experience affecting and bringing change == Hillary has Credibility, Connections, RESPECT in the International arena.


Ms. Pelosi fails to mention in her fine speeches about 'democracy' that she shares with Senator Obama the patronage of billionaire Nancy Pritzker of Chicago. Ms. Pritzker is Senator Obama's campaign finance manager and has been one of the key powerbrokers and money raisers for the Senator for the past 12 years. Ms. Pritzker is also one of Ms. Pelosi's key financial backers and has been for the last 12 years. Is it any co-incidence that Ms. Pelosi's views on the super-delegates has now changed from 'vote their conscience' to 'vote as their state voted'?


Yes, let the voters decide - INCLUDING MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA! What part of its responsibility for LEADING and INCLUDING ALL STATES does this party leadership not get?

Pelose doesn't mention it. Obama's lukewarm about it. Only Clinton has called for it.

COUNT THE VOTES IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN! NO 50/50 split BS, that is NOT giving these states or their voters a voice!


I am not sure why all these people think HRC should step aside because the math says she can't win.

The math says Obama can't win, either.

Both need superdelegates. And if the super delegates just mimic the regular delegates, then why the heck bother having a system that includes superdelegates who are supposed to vote their own mind? The Democratic party created this system, but now won't let it play out the way it should.

As an earlier poster said, why does the party want to break the rules on this issue, but chastise two states for breaking the rules on the primary issue?


DON'T BE DUPED!!!

Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And because they feel that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket would be unbeatable. And also because with a Clinton and Obama ticket you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very soon.

But first, all of you have to make certain that Hillary Clinton takes the democratic nomination and then the Whitehouse. NOW! is the time. THIS! is the moment you have all been working, and waiting for. You can do this America. “Carpe diem” (harvest the day).

I think Hillary Clinton see’s a beautiful world of plenty, and comfort for all. She is a woman, and a mother. And it’s time America. Do this for your-self, and your children’s future. You will have to work together on this and be aggressive, relentless, and creative. Americans face an even worse catastrophe ahead than the one you are living through now.

You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-self.

Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.

Hillary Clinton has been out manned, out gunned, and out spent 2 and 3 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton.

If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is. YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose.

The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. I suggest a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket now! Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

I think Barack Obama has a once in a life time chance to make the ultimate historic gesture for unity, and change in America by accepting Hillary Clinton’s offer as running mate. Such an act now would for ever seal Barack Obama’s place at the top of the list of Americas all time great leaders, and unifiers for all of history. But the time to act is soon.

The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.

“This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)

Sincerely

jacksmith...


In the midst of the controversy surrounding Obama's pastor speech, I just want to share this with you. I constantly see comments about why he didn't walk out because of what the pastor said. Did you walk out because of the racial implications that your parents instilled in your hearts, and the generations before yours? Because your comments shows that you are still in that mentality. Unlike, Obama, whom have reiterated throughout all of this racial ignorance, that he is a person whom have no respecter for person, race, creed or color. Those that can’t believe this is still holding on to their racial prejudice and can't seem to wear the shoe when it fits so perfectly. Common sense would tell anyone that the pastor did not preach those two sermons everyday for 17 or 20 years. I am sure that the pastor preached and taught good morals at sometime throughout that time frame, for he was a world renown pastor. The real problem is that deceitful people can't deal with the truth not alone accept the truth when in retrospect if they would look in the mirror and see theirself for who they really are. Obama have a plan for all, regardless of race , creed or color. He has risen above such ignorance, where people of your mentality still is, so take the help that is being offered by him and help bring about a positive change that you can rightfully find your place in society. Let go and live in a world of harmony and peace through your own efforts, then you can say, like the shake and bake commercial said, “and I helped”.


Chris Corbell and the rest of the ill-informed Loons on the Left: Michigan and Florida voted. You don't do re-do votes. It is up to the Democratic party to recognize those elections and the votes that took place.
And, you Loons keep saying Republican-controlled Florida is to blame. First of all, Michigan is run by Democrats and they voted to hold the election earlier than SuperTuesday too, so that Loony Left argument does not fly. Second, the RNC, while penalizing Florida and Michigan, is still recognizing the elections that took place in those states.
Why can't the Democratic party understand Democracy and elections? It seems cheating and changing the rules are the only ways Democrats can understand elections.


" It seems cheating and changing the rules are the only ways Democrats can understand elections. " - John D

Which Republican congressman is trying to 'change the rules' by trying to change his guilty (naughty) plea for gesturing for sex in a men's bathroom?
Which Republican got off scott-free for harassing young male intern-congressional pages?

Sinner.


Nancy Pelosi is trying to enforce the DNC rules re: Florida and Michigan, yet wants to change the rules mid-game on the super delegates?

This is a blatant abuse of your power in Washington and you have lost my trust in your judgment.

Have you forgotten that Hillary has won more electoral votes than Obama.
This is a reflection of Hillary winning the bigger states (both democratic and swing) whereas Obama has been winning smaller democtratic and republican states.

This will prove to the super delegates that Obama will not win the general election because the republican states will go to mccain. And the swing states that voted for Hillary may possibly go to Mccain as well.


Barack is TOAST after the scandals that have come out.. He knows it.. He has so many strikes against him.

Barack: Disloyal to supporters (Alice Parker, Hillary Clinton), Shady deals (Rezko), Poor circle of friends (Ayers, Wright), continued endorsement of extremism and anti-American talk (Wright), his own anti-American talk (wont ever wear lapel pin), difficulty to say simple yes to American song (CNN-AC360 interview), integrity issues and conflict of interest in healthcare (Michelle's part-time job with big pay doing the work of channeling uninsured away from a good hospital).. the money trails, the winking on NAFTA to Canada (+ 5 tries over a week to come clean), the 'forgetfulness' on money dealings with Rezko (and now this!), the unravelling of Rezko (it is just beginning!), difficulty explaining his platform (beyond slogans and catchy phrases), lack of clear and cohesive plans to support plan (and lack of fluency and consistency around own platform), indiscreminately co-sponsoring 400+ bills in the year (hey, "look at my accomplishments!" (has he even read them?) and being one of the top people not at the voting station.. (his voting record is awful, next only to McCain's), voting 'present' too many times (controversial? abstain! talk flip-flop), and took committee chair role on Afghanistan and not holding a single substantial hearing for 15+ months?

Any person without significant accomplishmnets cannot rise to leadership. There are three prior stages before leadership: Learning, Proving expertise and garnering credibility, Becoming a coach and multiplying ones impact. These are stages that he has not completed. Instead, he tried to get on the coat-tails of other leaders with their words.. borrowed, unacknowledged words. It was impactful because of all the historic implications.... both positively inspirational to some and activating old hatred to others!  IRRESPONSIBLE!  Worse, he has done the single most dispicable thing of undoing the work of so many leaders in so short a time..

If he got there (and I cant imagine a path there anymore!), it would have been incredibly difficult because he has no support system developed from the earlier stages.

Instead now he has to figure out how to use words to keep the momentum when his shady/unholy/unpatriotic support system has been both questioned and can no longer openly support him. Barack may not recognize what is the honorable thing to do.. His party leadership is going to have to help him get there. There is no need for him to continue his quest anymore.

He is DONE!   ENOUGH!!    ENOUGH ALREADY!!   WE DONT WANT TO SEE HIS FACE ANYMORE!!!

DNC Leaders, take note.. You can no longer put forth Barack Obama regardless of whatever his middlename is/is not!

He cannot recover from this utter failure to demonstrate principals and any genuine core.. America can see thru this one!

AMERICA WILL NOT BE HOODWINKED!!   STEP DOWN!!  

DNC, DEMAND THAT HE STEP DOWN!!! HE IS A TOTAL DISGRACE!!! LET US SALVAGE THIS AND MOVE ON!!! YOU NEED TO DEMAND THIS OF BARACK!!! NO MORE BARACK!! NO MORE HOODWINKING!!!

WE ARE DONE WITH BARACK!

AMERICA WILL NOT BE HOODWINKED!!  


There should be a real dream ticket Obama president McCain Vice. The only one dreaming about the other option is Hillary


Pelosi is betraying the rules of the Democratic Party. The rules are the rules. The Party set up these rules in the case that we had 2 candidates who were very close and neither could win a majority of delegates. In that case, the sups are supposed to vote based on their judgement of who would be a better leader. Pelosi is way out of line trying to sway sups based on another criteria. Her job is to uphold the process that has been set in place by the Party, not attempt to disrupt it.


Dont be duped.. he has teleprompter, written notes.. to clarify and reinforce his 20-year long relationship to hatred of America sermons.

And he needs 8 flags behind him to say this!! Dont forget: when Anderson Cooper asked him a direct question on 3/14 (at Barack's requested interview!), Barack had difficult saying he is ok with singing the national anthem.

He is reinforcing and driving the wedge further! UNCONSCIONABLE!! HE IS UNFIT FOR ANYWHERE CLOSE TO PRESIDENT!!

ENOUGH!! NO MORE BAMBOOZLING... NO MORE HOODWINKING..

WE ARE DONE!!

AMERICA WILL NOT BE HOODWINKED!!


If most of these comments represent democratic voters, then we have a long way to go. so much divisiveness and outright hate. so many of you seem to fail to recognize that obama is still half-caucasian. He saw his father basically no more than 3 times in his entire life. He was raised by his maternal, white-grandparents for the majority of his life. His white-grandmother had a time in her life when she too had an issue w/blacks. Yet, she loved her grandson. No one says anything when Pastor John Hagee and other white pastors of mega-churches, made similar statements after 9-11 and still do about AMERICA. Obama is both equally Black & White ethnically. Let's face facts we Americans have committed our own atrocities and genocide against certain groups in this great land. How long will we continue to be hatemongers. Many christian churches, organizations and individual christian people sat silent during such events as the Holocaust,Salvery,almost complete annihilation of Native Americans & the Japanese internment just to name a few. This is a so-called Democracy and our constitution guarantees us freedom of speech - so be it Rev. Wright. Are we so ignorant as to become McCarthyist - guilty by association. Heck even the KKK was once if not still is listed as a Christian organization. If his church is so racist believe you me not one red cent would go to fund anything that has anything to do with Whites. Yet, you can check their books and see how many other-than-black organization and events have received monies. Everyone keeps talking about Sen Clinton's experience. I'm married to a surgeon, helped him study - but a surgeon I am not. Neither candidate has experience as a president (neither has been one/not even vice). A great leader is one that has a track record when there are no cameras, when there is no prize and you see they've concerned themselves w/the everyday people. It's easy to associate w/the big dogs - but what about the everyday person. As Sen Obama has all along. We should all not get caught up in the political-propaganda-hype. If Clinton is your choice vote for hilary if Obama is your choice vote for barack. But be intelligent enough to not be swayed by someone's skincolor, gender, or candidates desperate smear tactics. Deal with what will affect and the effect of the candidate in the presidency position. Please remember that your local proprositions have a greater impact on your living standards, and the 9-most powerful people in America have a life-time term (Supreme Court Justices). Eventhough, our President is no longer a figure-head as in the past. We truly need someone to represent and reflect who we are. For me there is but one race the Human Race - and a political campaign. And so, I will vote my conscience - for Sen Obama. But, not because he's Black or white {(he's actually both)inspite of the fact most of us White Americans discount a person as White if they have a drop of Black ethinicity in them) since all blood is red once oxygenated)}. Because for me he represents change, the regular person and hope for unity. If Sen clinton wins the nomination - I will cast my vote for Sen McClain. I will not vote for anyone who attacks a person on a personal level, especially spiritual - because if you must stoop that low to win. Your believe in yourself and ability to lead on experience, knowledge, merit and the issues alone must be lacking. You fellow readers may not agree with me but, I live in a country which allows me just that freedom of speech.
Oh Yes, It is suppose to be for the people by the people. Or are we the masses considered to enept by the elite to think and make a decision for ourselves. There shouldn't be any Superdelegate nonsense. The delegate vote should be representative of the popular vote if indeed the people have spoken! Otherwise we have the elite power brokers deciding for us. Yes, all super delegates aren't powerbrokers but the majority are with special agendas. A contest/race/game is suppose to be won by the one out front/the one in the lead. To everyone vote your conscience, that's all you can do and be a good citizen. Have a nice day to all - Niki C


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