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Posted March 14, 2008 10:00 AM
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by Mark Silva

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, longtime pastor at Sen. Barack Obama’s church in Chicago, has retired – but not without some forceful, parting words for his views on the presidential election campaign. CNN is reporting on the pastor’s words – and the campaign’s separation from them.

"It just came to me within the past few weeks, ya'll, why so many folk are hating on Barack Obama,’’ Wright told his congregation at Trinity United Church of Christ, in footage from the church at Christmas that is circulating on YouTube. (Wright delivered his last sermon on Feb. 10). “He doesn’t fit the model,'' he said of Obama in the December sermon shown in the video. "He ain't white. He ain't rich and he ain't privileged. Hillary(Clinton) fits the mold."

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Obama, who has often likened Wright to an “old uncle’’ with whom he doesn’t always agree, is not supporting this message. Yet the words of the old pastor have surfaced in the media this week, a week in which questions of race and gender have come to the forefront of the Obama-Clinton contest.

CNN quotes an Obama campaign spokesman as saying: “Sen. Obama has said before that he profoundly disagrees with some of the statements and positions of Rev. Wright… Sen. Obama deplores divisive statements, whether they come from his supporters, the supporters of his opponent, talk radio or anywhere else.’’

The clip continues with Wright in the pulpit: "Hillary was not a black boy raised in a single parent home, Barack was. Barack knows what it means to be a black man living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people. Hillary! Hillary can never know that. Hillary has never been called a n-----! Hillary has never had her people defined as a non-person."

See the Tribune's story in January about the pastor and the senator.

The Wall Street Journal also ran a piece today on the Wright-Obama relationship:

(Photo of Sen. Barack Obama and Rev. Jeremiah Wright from Trinity United Church of Christ / Religion News Service)

By RONALD KESSLER

In a sermon delivered at Howard University, Barack Obama's longtime minister, friend and adviser blamed America for starting the AIDS virus, training professional killers, importing drugs and creating a racist society that would never elect a black candidate president.

The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor of Mr. Obama's Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, gave the sermon at the school's Andrew Rankin Memorial Chapel in Washington on Jan. 15, 2006.

"We've got more black men in prison than there are in college," he began. "Racism is alive and well. Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run. No black man will ever be considered for president, no matter how hard you run Jesse [Jackson] and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body."

Mr. Wright thundered on: "America is still the No. 1 killer in the world. . . . We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns, and the training of professional killers . . . We bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children while trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and Ghadhafi . . . We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the whole 27 years he was there. We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God."

His voice rising, Mr. Wright said, "We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic. . . . We care nothing about human life if the end justifies the means. . . ."

Concluding, Mr. Wright said: "We started the AIDS virus . . . We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . ."

Considering this view of America, it's not surprising that in December Mr. Wright's church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan for lifetime achievement. In the church magazine, Trumpet, Mr. Wright spoke glowingly of the Nation of Islam leader. "His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening," Mr. Wright said of Mr. Farrakhan. "He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest."

After Newsmax broke the story of the award to Farrakhan on Jan. 14, Mr. Obama issued a statement. However, Mr. Obama ignored the main point: that his minister and friend had spoken adoringly of Mr. Farrakhan, and that Mr. Wright's church was behind the award to the Nation of Islam leader.

Instead, Mr. Obama said, "I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan. I assume that Trumpet magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree." Trumpet is owned and produced by Mr. Wright's church out of the church's offices, and Mr. Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor.

Meeting with Jewish leaders in Cleveland on Feb. 24, Mr. Obama described Mr. Wright as being like "an old uncle who sometimes will say things that I don't agree with." He rarely mentions the points of disagreement.

Mr. Obama went on to explain Mr. Wright's anti-Zionist statements as being rooted in his anger over the Jewish state's support for South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. As with his previous claim that his church gave the award to Mr. Farrakhan because of his work with ex-offenders, Mr. Obama appears to have made that up.

Neither the presentation of the award nor the Trumpet article about the award mentions ex-offenders, and Mr. Wright's statements denouncing Israel have not been qualified in any way. Mr. Obama nonetheless told the Jewish leaders that the award to Mr. Farrakhan "showed a lack of sensitivity to the Jewish community." That is an understatement.

As for Mr. Wright's repeated comments blaming America for the 9/11 attacks because of what Mr. Wright calls its racist and violent policies, Mr. Obama has said it sounds as if the minister was trying to be "provocative."

Hearing Mr. Wright's venomous and paranoid denunciations of this country, the vast majority of Americans would walk out. Instead, Mr. Obama and his wife Michelle have presumably sat through numerous similar sermons by Mr. Wright.

Indeed, Mr. Obama has described Mr. Wright as his "sounding board" during the two decades he has known him. Mr. Obama has said he found religion through the minister in the 1980s. He joined the church in 1991 and walked down the aisle in a formal commitment of faith.

The title of Mr. Obama's bestseller "The Audacity of Hope" comes from one of Wright's sermons. Mr. Wright is one of the first people Mr. Obama thanked after his election to the Senate in 2004. Mr. Obama consulted Mr. Wright before deciding to run for president. He prayed privately with Mr. Wright before announcing his candidacy last year.

Mr. Obama obviously would not choose to belong to Mr. Wright's church and seek his advice unless he agreed with at least some of his views. In light of Mr. Wright's perspective, Michelle Obama's comment that she feels proud of America for the first time in her adult life makes perfect sense.

Much as most of us would appreciate the symbolism of a black man ascending to the presidency, what we have in Barack Obama is a politician whose closeness to Mr. Wright underscores his radical record.

The media have largely ignored Mr. Obama's close association with Mr. Wright. This raises legitimate questions about Mr. Obama's fundamental beliefs about his country. Those questions deserve a clearer answer than Mr. Obama has provided so far.

Mr. Kessler, a former Wall Street Journal and Washington Post reporter, is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com and the author of "The Terrorist Watch: Inside the Desperate Race to Stop the Next Attack" (Crown Forum, 2007).

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Maybe this guy can hook up with Hagee.


Why isn't the main stream media doing pieces on McCain's relationship with
Rod Parsley...whom McCain refers to as his 'spiritual advisor'??

Parsley is another flake like Hagee.

Keith Olberman was the only one who has questioned this.

For info on on Parsley and McCain see the Times:

http://timesonline.typepad.com/uselections/2008/03/mccain-and-the.html

also:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/13/mccains-other-crazed-evangelist-ally/


Obama is toast! With Jeremiah Wright, there's NOOOOOO way he can get elected. This is golden for the GOP!


McCain on Hagee:

"We've had a dignified campaign, and I repudiate any comments that are made, including Pastor Hagee's, if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics. I sent two of my children to Catholic school. I categorically reject and repudiate any statement that was made that was anti-Catholic, both in intent and nature. I categorically reject it, and I repudiate it. And we can't have that in this campaign. We're trying to unite the country. We're uniting the country, not dividing it."

Obama hasn't said anything similar about Wright.

p.s. This youtube video will be sent by the Clintons to every voter in Pennysylvania.


"Meeting with Jewish leaders in Cleveland on Feb. 24, Mr. Obama described Mr. Wright as being like "an old uncle who sometimes will say things that I don't agree with." He rarely mentions the points of disagreement."

Yeah right. Obama has attended that church for 20 years. If he didn't agree with what was being preached, he would have left. Obama buy's into it lock, stock and barrel.

Now Michelle's "I am proud of my country for the first time" makes sense.


I watched Obama's preacher on YouTube,what a nut job.He is the most racist religous person I have ever heard.Obama listened to this crap every Sunday for twenty years ?If a white priest said things like he did it would have been the "N" word every other word and it would have ended this election,but not when it is an African American because of the double standard.


Obama didnt say it and doesnt condone it. If Obama said it they would have a scandal on their hands. He cant be responsible for every idiot with a microphone.


Obama is done. Stick a fork in him and has racist pastor. I'd rather vote for Mickey Mouse than Barack Hussein Obama.


OBAMA CAN'T DENOUNCE WRIGHT

He's been going to Wright's church and listening to his sermons for 20 years. Too late to start denouncing him now. Why didn't he leave the church at any time in the last 20 years? Why does he call him his "mentor"? Why did he name his book after Wright's sermon? Why did he get baptized by Wright? Why did he get married by Wright? Why did he allow his children to get baptized by Wright.

It looks like we have a common Hustler/Con Man running for President--one with a law degree.


I didn't know this maniac baptized Obama's two kids. Wow. Michelle and Barack must really believe what this guy is saying. Michelle has already said that she just began to feel pride in America -- only after people started voting for her husband.


Have you fallen and smacked your little heads in America today?

This type of race baiting and hatemongering has been the underscore of the ENTIRE Obama campaign since Iowa and predominately in South Carolina when the Obama camp blamed the Clinton camp for race baiting, that they the Obama camp did underneath the surface.

Jesse Jackson Jr is the Obama campaign race man.

How do White liberals feel today?

You have not been this tricked by a race separatist the likes of Obama since pre-Civil War Nat Turner.

Look at you now.

So eager to prove yourselves non-bigots you have voted overwhemingly for a race hater of the highest form.

And yet the general media is still making excuses for their cherry picked candidate.


The only thing this proves is that the writers of the constitution showed wisdom beyond belief separating religion from government. So what is worse, having a minister who spouts some extreme views most of which are true, but divisive, or people believing that Obama is a Muslim?

People who support Obama are not going to abandon him because of his ministers ranting and raving. People who are not going to vote for Obama are going to find more fuel for their opposition to him.

The only thing that I hear Wright saying is that there are a set of circumstances that surround, and lay heavily on, the lives of many black people that White people are never faced with. There is nothing profound about that. The important thing is that Wright is not running for president.


Wright isn't an Obama "supporter." Obama's 20 year participation in this hate mongering group means he's a supporter of Wright. This is poison for Obama.


Well, I must give Mark credit for covering Pastor Wright and his controversial statements. Maybe there is some hope!


I see that some are already attempting to trot out a comparative argument, that Wright's offensive, bigoted, and paranoid rants are somehow lessened by invoking John McCain's support from John Hagee and Rod Parsley, two prominent evangelists who have also made provocative statements.

But here is the huge gaping difference between these attempts: Barack Obama has spent the better part of the past 20 years of his life listening to, absorbing, and yes, agreeing with Wright's sermons. If he did not agree with the bulk of those sermons, he would have of course left Trinity for another church--finding a church in Chicago that closely fits your own personal beliefs is not at all difficult, and Obama obviously agrees with Wright far more than he disagrees.

That Obama has spent 20 years listening to Wright, thought enough of him to use one of those sermons as the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope," that he was married by Wright, had both of his children baptized by Wright and brought up in this church, listening to these paranoid and racist rants that differ little in substance from the words of a much more famous racist, Louis Farakkan, means that Obama AGREES with Wright far more often than he disagrees with him.

From that, what are we to make of Obama? Actions, indeed, do speak louder than flaccid conciliatory words that have only just now been uttered.

I say again the obvious: no American would spend 20 years listening to a minister with which he vehemently disagreed.

McCain, by comparison, is guilty of pandering to Haggee and Parsley because of the (unfortunate) influence they have over a powerful voting demographic.

I can find scant evidence that McCain has sat though one sermon from Hagee or Parsley, much less 20 years of them.

Which is worse?

The politician that panders for votes, or the man who has listened to and internalized anti-American, anti-Jewish, and anti-white messages for 20 years before ever once publicly disagreeing with them, and who is raising his children in this same toxic environment?

Not only am I certain Barack Obama is unfit to run this nation, I now question his ability to raise his own children, for the hatred he has willingly exposed them to since their births.


I wonder why Obama doesn't wear the flag pin. I wonder why Obama doesn't put his hand over his heart when the song 'America the Beautiful' plays. He has been involved with this church for 20 years, 20 years of listening to an anti-American, racist, and this has no affect on Obama .


Obama is toast! With Jeremiah Wright, there's NOOOOOO way he can get elected. This is golden for the GOP!

Posted by: ted | March 14, 2008 10:08 AM

Obama is done. Stick a fork in him and has racist pastor. I'd rather vote for Mickey Mouse than Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: HGH | March 14, 2008 10:36 AM

Well I see the very intelligent people have made their predictions. I have no doubt they will come true.....coming from the party of last throes, and throw flowers, how could they be wrong.


It's time for all us white folks to stand together and vote for the white candidate. Otherwise we're going to have a terrorist running the country! If it's good for the black people to vote for him just because he's black, it should be ok for us to do it too!


Lauren, I agree and "they" will do stories on McCain in time. I support this point.

But how about dealing with the story and facts that are slapping you in the face about Obama now! Don't divert from this story and don't call anyone who questions Obama and this 20 year close relationship as racist.

Don't be the typical Obama supporter deal with the obvious weakness and serious issues with your candidate honestly. If you don't care about this issue and think it isn't important then say so. If you agree with Pastor Wright and Farrakhan then say so.

Despite what Mr. Wright says this is still the land of the free and you can still speak out.

Why isn't the main stream media doing pieces on McCain's relationship with
Rod Parsley...whom McCain refers to as his 'spiritual advisor'??

Parsley is another flake like Hagee.

Keith Olberman was the only one who has questioned this.

For info on on Parsley and McCain see the Times:

http://timesonline.typepad.com/uselections/2008/03/mccain-and-the.html

also:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/13/mccains-other-crazed-evangelist-ally/

Posted by: lauren | March 14, 2008 10:04 AM


lauren, you're a fool to listen to Olbermann and think you have heard the truth. He's a lying propagandist.

Still to the topic - the racist, anti-American, hateful lies of Obama's spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright.


Obama said he deplores the statement. That is the end of it. The Pastor speaks for himself, not for Obama. Obama is not responsible for the Pastor's comment, since the Pastor is not part of his campaign staff.

Note that Obama has always spoken about unifying the nation, and asks us all to look upon ourselves as Amerricans, not as Blacks and Whites and Hispanics. I give him credit for that. Whatever his positions on the issues, he is definitely not a run-of-the-mill divide-and-rule politician. Compare the tone of his campaign to Clinton's, and you get the idea.

Wayhne is right, One cannot be responsible for what someone else says.


Obama keeps saying he is a Christian, then he chooses this church, with this pastor, who honors Farrakhan.

What does that say about his judgement?

Scary. Very scary.


Barack Obama is the worst thing that ever happened to the Democratic Party.

God help the party and our country if this horrid man is elected President.


People who support Obama should take a step back and look at how well they really know their candidate.

What more accurately reflects a person's beliefs - 1. The message at the church they choose to attend for 20 plus years, that they choose to raise their children in? or 2. Months of carefully rehearsed, coached speeches reflecting what Americans want to hear?

I believe people should vote for whoever they want to, but I believe in making educated decisions. If Obama has listened to this for 20 years, and allowed his children to be brought up listening to this, he believes it. I would never take my children week to week to a church that went against my core values. What would be the point?


Rev. Rod Parsley: (McCain's spiritual advisor)

"By cozying up to Parsley, McCain has given his disturbing speeches a new national legitimacy. The alliance will no doubt help McCain rebuild the so-called Evangelical coalition that he needs to have a chance in the general election. ... To read Parsley's violent language as he encourages his readers to join the so-called 'war' is to come face-to-face with the violent rhetoric John McCain will tolerate - even encourage - to win votes in November."

"This is the man John McCain has embraced as a politically ally. Remind me again how he developed a reputation as a moderate?"

"It creates a quandary for McCain, who needs to rely on this dude to get votes out in Ohio during the general election. But... Joooooohn, look what he says!"

http://timesonline.typepad.com/uselections/2008/03/mccain-and-the.html



Obama [camp] Deplores devisive statements;

But NOT BARACK!

Do you lefties get that sinking feeling yet?

Hey! There is still Hillary!

Paulo


Although, I do not agree with everything that Pastor Wright has said, there are definately truths in his statements about our countries racist history, disenfranchisement of certain groups, the inability for political leaders to speak in support of Palestian rights without being label anti-sematic, the immoral war in Iraq and other nations, the support of an inheretly racist apartheid South Africa, the list goes on. Most Americans are ignorant to the things our govenment does in our name -- do the research, People. Ignorance is truly bliss, because when you have knowledge you can't bury your face, it may keep you up a night.

I love my country, I am glad to be born on this soil. When I travel aboard, I realize just how American that I am, but I am not stupid enough to be blinded by my adoration. I know America has done some absolutely atricous stuff both aboard and here to its own citizens. Here is the thing -- we are a young nation, and we done our share of both good and bad. I hold my country in a higher esteem them most -- because we have a beautiful promise, we just need to live up to it.


Okay, right. Obama "deplored" Wright's vile, racist, hate filled, anti-American sermons so much that he sat nodding in the pews for 20+ years. If Obama disagreed, he would have left the church years ago.

Obama is a liar and con man. Nothing more.


This Wright gentleman was not allowed, for obvious reasons, to be at Obama's presidential run announcement in Springpatch, IL. I can't believe this is only coming out now. It does, however, explain Michelle Obama's comment about not being proud of her country. Obama is slick and jiving his way into the White House and fooling all those white states with his "change" theme.


Now we know where Michelle Obama gets the inspiration for her rants against America.


How could Obama expose his children to this crap? That's just too scary-How long would Hillary Clinton have lasted if her minister preached white power and gave an award to David Dukes? Not for a nano second-


Typical treatment by the Obama-fawners at the Swamp of a story critical of their man.

This ABC News story was all over the news YESTERDAY. But the Swamp delayed on it until they could get the Obama camp's spin, then ran the spin today.

A similar story on Clinton or a Republican would have run with the initial story, yesterday. But Obama's defense attorneys at the Swamp make sure the first thing readers hear about it is HIS spin.

Among other items hidden by the Swamp is that Rev. Wright is not just Obama's spiritual mentor, he's part of the Obama campaign--one of the heads of Obama's "African American Religious Leadership Committee".


I watched Bill Clinton on the news about SC,what a nut job. He is the most racist person I have ever heard. Hillary listened to this crap every day for forty years? If a black husband of a candidate said things like he did it would have ended this election, but not when it is an White American because of the racist double standard in this country.


I am a democrat and an Obama supporter and this is my view....
Barack has to throw this Wright guy under the bus and have the guy be thrown out of the church. He needs to publicly make it clear that characters like these do not belong to this movement. No ifs and buts.


Who cares? All three of the remaining Presidential candidates have some religious nut jobs in their lifes. McCain is a republican, and leg of the GOP stool is made up entirely of Religious nut jobs.

Hillary is a member of "the Fellowship" a super secret DC prayer group that has some real nutters as members.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html


And if we are waging a "whose preachers are crazier" contest the GOP will win that hands down. The Right Wing preachers tend to be nuttier than squirel poo.


The author of this editorial is the author of "The Terrorist Watch: Inside the Desperate Race to Stop the Next Attack" Obviously a NeoCon. No wonder it had quite an anit-obama slant to it. The ironic thing is that some of the Rev. statements are very true. America does not want to honestly look at it's policies and there implications around the world. Someone is not anti-american for pointing that out, it's like an intervention one needs to be honest about our history in order to honestly address the future. unfortunately a lot of Americans don't want to face the truth (or in the words of Jack Nickelson - we can't handle the truth). Obviously this editorial is an attempt to smear Obama with guilt by association. Typical NeoCon politics - they can frame and spin anything to make someone appear anti-american or unpatriotic for speaking the truth in love.


How is posting an unedited video of this man's actual words "race baiting?"

We know who the race baiter is. It's Jeremiah Wright. Just look at his own words.


How is it someone would think that Senator Obama wouldn't get elected because of something his pastor said in the pulpit. Let's analysis the excerpt of the sermon that has been aired on talk shows like the Sean Hannity Show and mainstream like CNN. Did Rev. Wright lie about anything or was what he said true. If he lied about Senator Clinton not personally experiencing what it is to be a Black man in the USA, then by all means it should be brought out in the open. Also, if he lied about the USA being controlled by rich white men, then by all means address with concrete support evidence to the contrary. However, if there exists any truth to what he said then acknowledge it and then express the need for a change towards equity for all Americans in this regardless of their race.

Also, if people are really interested in what Senator Obama thinks and believes about being an African/White man in the United States of America read the books he has written about his personal experiences. Do not judge him by the experiences of others. I would even venture to say that when Rev. Wright speaks as passionately as he does about the Black American experience, he is speaking from a place of personal experience. He grow up in a time when seggratation was the norm of the day. When White Americans did not have a problem publically demoralizing Blacks; especially, men. Just think of it, a 20 year old White man, calling a 50 year old Black man "boy." What do you think experiencing and witnessing things like that did to Rev. Wrights' psychy as a young child witnessing such things? He probably vowed to himself as a young person that no one would ever speak to him that way and he would do something to help Blacks in America overcome the traumatic oppresion of being treated as less than a person and citizen in this great Country we call the USA.

As a 44 year old Black American, I personnally don't agree with his remarks regarding "damn America." I am a Christian who believes that Christ Jesus paid the ultimate price for all mankind to be free to grow in a loving relationship with Father and others. I believe if Rev. Wright is ever going to be free of the hurt and bitterness he has experienced by Whites who thought themselves to be better than himself, he is going to have to ask God to baptize in him in Love. Because, only a deep rooted love for God and by God can heal a broken and bruised heart. Growing up in the south, I too experienced some discrimination, being denied being declared the validictorian of my high school graduation class, because white political figures in the community daughter was graduating as well and they wanted her to be named the top. But things worked out, I recieved the more scholarships than she did, my speech was inspiring to all who attended, and I finished graduated from college and she didn't. I am currently working towards obtaining a Doctoral degree. I am thankful that my parents did not raise me to think of myself as being less of a person because I am Black. I embrass who God made me to be, if I couldn't handle being Black in America, He would not have made me that way. I feel sorry for people like Sean Hannity and others who can not look beyond a man's exterior, nor truthfully and sincerely celebrate the accomplishments of Blacks in this country. It is people like this who need to be baptized in the love of God as well.


How is it someone would think that Senator Obama wouldn't get elected because of something his pastor said in the pulpit. Let's analysis the excerpt of the sermon that has been aired on talk shows like the Sean Hannity Show and mainstream like CNN. Did Rev. Wright lie about anything or was what he said true. If he lied about Senator Clinton not personally experiencing what it is to be a Black man in the USA, then by all means it should be brought out in the open. Also, if he lied about the USA being controlled by rich white men, then by all means address with concrete support evidence to the contrary. However, if there exists any truth to what he said then acknowledge it and then express the need for a change towards equity for all Americans in this regardless of their race.

Also, if people are really interested in what Senator Obama thinks and believes about being an African/White man in the United States of America read the books he has written about his personal experiences. Do not judge him by the experiences of others. I would even venture to say that when Rev. Wright speaks as passionately as he does about the Black American experience, he is speaking from a place of personal experience. He grow up in a time when seggratation was the norm of the day. When White Americans did not have a problem publically demoralizing Blacks; especially, men. Just think of it, a 20 year old White man, calling a 50 year old Black man "boy." What do you think experiencing and witnessing things like that did to Rev. Wrights' psychy as a young child witnessing such things? He probably vowed to himself as a young person that no one would ever speak to him that way and he would do something to help Blacks in America overcome the traumatic oppresion of being treated as less than a person and citizen in this great Country we call the USA.

As a 44 year old Black American, I personnally don't agree with his remarks regarding "damn America." I am a Christian who believes that Christ Jesus paid the ultimate price for all mankind to be free to grow in a loving relationship with Father and others. I believe if Rev. Wright is ever going to be free of the hurt and bitterness he has experienced by Whites who thought themselves to be better than himself, he is going to have to ask God to baptize in him in Love. Because, only a deep rooted love for God and by God can heal a broken and bruised heart. Growing up in the south, I too experienced some discrimination, being denied being declared the validictorian of my high school graduation class, because white political figures in the community daughter was graduating as well and they wanted her to be named the top. But things worked out, I recieved the more scholarships than she did, my speech was inspiring to all who attended, and I finished graduated from college and she didn't. I am currently working towards obtaining a Doctoral degree. I am thankful that my parents did not raise me to think of myself as being less of a person because I am Black. I embrass who God made me to be, if I couldn't handle being Black in America, He would not have made me that way. I feel sorry for people like Sean Hannity and others who can not look beyond a man's exterior, nor truthfully and sincerely celebrate the accomplishments of Blacks in this country. It is people like this who need to be baptized in the love of God as well.


This story is just more of the same old Clinton race-baiting. They know the white voters of PA will be scared seeing a black preacher and vote for Hillary.

Why no story on McCain's preacher who has called Islam a fake religion and believes that America should go to war to destroy Islam?


Some of your reasonings for bashing Obama based on his former pastors rantings are infantile (i'm being nice). I have parents and friends I grew up with all my life who are as racist (white) as this pastor. Are you saying because i know and still love them that i am PART of them? Can I not love those I disagree with?
I hope so. To paint Obama with this guys statements is contrary to all Obama has said. Some of you bigoted people are just too dimwitted to be rational. I am white...and I support Obama over Hillary...ALWAYS. He is a uniter and has been the only consistent candidate on the issues. PERIOD.


I don't presume to know what it's like to be black in America, this guy seems offensive, but have you ever been to SS of Chicago? He's talking to his crowd, and I don't doubt a black man is angry. In any event, he's not on Obama's campaign like Ferraro-racist was and really still is.


Wow ... stop my in my tracks. Mr. Obama how can you support such junk for over 20 years? I think now I understand the comments your wife made a few weeks ago. At least I can now assume the basis of her thoughts. God .. damn America ???... My god ... how can anyone say that? Even blacks should know that of that race, the most successful live in America. ... Thomas, Rice, Powel to name some of the powerful, great people of a great nation, America. Honestly, I see creatures like this man (not a preacher) as the great enslavers of Black people today. Just as the ones who sold the Negro's off the African coast so now those enslavers still live and continue to deliver people into enslavement. Captive to fear and ignorance and sold a lie to assuage there inability and placate their souls. And as always, waiting at every reasonable discourse, available for any failure, a reason, a patient for any failure, racism. I have seen racism; its face has changed over the last 50 years. King would not believe the racist today.


This is very serious.

I am stunned by Wright's comments about September 11th. They are outrageous. Also, he is a strng supporter of Farrakhan.

This is the beginning of the end of the Obama campaig. He is ovbiously a radical leftist.


Most of you this blog are certainly are a racists already whether you want to admit it or not. You are the people who seem friendly, but a hypocrite behind the scene. Over all you are worst than a KKK, at least those people have the courage to speak their hatred minds. You are making pointless arguments only to make you feel better. The fact is you don't like to have color colleague, boss or in the same positions as you are. Now, you are making excuses because the possibility of qualified black man could potentially become President. You are people who hate changes because you want to hold on what you've gained since you slaughtered the Native Indians.


The reason why white people will say anything against Mr. Obama (Muslim, white hater, terrorist, anti-patriotic)is because he is black and they are afraid to say it and play the racist card straight. They will look for any lie to distance themselves from him, simply because many whites are discriminative against blacks.Please be honest with yourselves.


I don't care if you're Geraldine Ferraro or Rev. Wright, there is this tendency to think Barack is more black than he is white. Why? Does it make for a more historic tale? Does it fit the agenda better? He was raised by his white mom, Stanley. It reminds me of Halley Berry's Oscar night when everyone ignored her white heritage.


If Obama is rejecting the ideas of his minister, why has he attended this church for the past 20 years? I don't see the necessity for Reverand Wright's hate speech against America. Why drag up the past since both Obama and his wife and, I'm sure other church members, have benefited from the opportunities available in this country. Reverand Wright should have been using Obama as an example for his church members. I'm over all the complaining and hand wringing over our past. Our past has not always been exemplary, but no country in history has tried harder to provide fairness and equal opportunity to all. To the good Reverand and others that don't like it here, try another country, please.


The reason it makes a difference is that it's on tape.

The media can't white wash this for Obama.

People don't have to get it filtered through the media.

Now the media's credibility itself will come in question.

If the main stream media can't call this stuff vile, the public will put a question mark on the media.


"He ain't white? He ain't rich? He ain't priviledged?"

Isn't Obama a white male; one of the people that this guy was railing about?

Isn't his mom a white woman?

How was he born into this world?

I guess this IS about looks/race.


Glenn:

If you are going to quote Michelle Obama, then at least get it right and not out of context.

kh:

We white liberals have seen what GW Bush and his minions have done to this country over the past 8 years in the name of "Christianity". So we are pretty comfortable with Obama.

Jeff:

How long did it take McCain to make that statement? And don't forget - McCain ACTIVELY campaigned to get Hagee's support. And Parsley is McCain's spiritual advisor??

bill r:

After reading the right wing hate messages here, I can understand why 13% of the country thinks Obama is a Muslim.


responding to Clint.

HELLO! White people have been voting for White people since the political process began. Where the heck have you been? Don't you have a history book?

Grow up!


Yes Oboma does condone it. He has condoned it for 20 years by attending this church and contributing to this church and by his close relationship with this preacher. You simply cannot argue against those facts. Now do you want to talk about a lack of judgement and who has terrible judgement?


We know who the race baiter is. It's Jeremiah Wright. Just look at his own words.

Posted by: Jeff | March 14, 2008 11:18 AM

and do you know how it has felt to black all your life Jeff? For your political stance..this means something to you. In real life you know nothing living in the lily pad.


Thanks for reporting on this. I would like to see this country united not divided by racism even more. This has changed by view completely.


The stink made of Geraldine Ferarro's comments and any other "racially connected" comments earlier in the campaign that led to a lot of Negativity, is hard to imagine when compared to the Blatant racism of this character. And Obama's judgment needs to be questioned if it has taken him so long to determine that this Reverend is Bad news. If we are not yet past believing the Bullcrap argument that Black leaders have a right and duty to preach hate and because of a long (ago) history of repression, it's okay for them to do so.
OOOOOHHHH NO! Obama isn't gonna get away with that one. I would have supported him, but I am beginning to see how disingenuous he is. He lies about Nafta and his position and He consorts and consults, supports and is supported by HATERS. I am not sure we have seen the True Obama. His facade may crumble one of these days and we may find that this seemingly charismatic wonderful guy, has some real dark secrets. Some of these secrets seem to be coming out now.


So the way I see it, you're either a part of the Blame America First Crowd or a part of the Never Blame America Crowd.
Since more than half of us aren't smarter than fifth graders, there's not much any of us can do. Welcome to idiocracy, now go vote for the whitest and richest of candidates that will screw you out of your tax money and spend it on themselves.
I can't wait till gas hits $8 per gallon, revenge is going to be sweet.


"White people" don't have to say anything against Senator Obama, Alma. If we wait long enough, his inexperienced staff, inflammatory "mentor," and fawning media's lack of true reporting finally catches up. Senator Obama couldn't criticize Gerry Ferraro enough -- a woman who did yoeman's service to the party long before he was born -- until she was deserted by the entire Democratic leadership and hung out to dry. He has set the Obama Rules here and now he too must learn to live with them.


His mom is white, read the article in the NY Times about her life and inluence of him and his half asian sister. He is the Tiger Woods of Politicians and I for one will vote for him regardless of his pastors words. The pastor is from an older generation that still hurts. Im 25 year old white man from GA and I voted for him not because Im making up for previous generatoins bigotries- IM A POST CIVIL RIGHTS SOUTHERNER, GROWN UP LEARNING THROUGH TEXTBOOKS ABOUT MLK, GHANDI, AND OTHER GREAT MEN. I dont have to apoligize for damn thing and Im voting for the person I believe will get our country back on track and who will restore our world image. You people who think whites are voting for Barack out of guilt are full of it. HOW THE HELL DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL? You insult my intelligence and my beliefs. I VOTE FOR WHO I THINK SHOULD BE PRESIDENT.


This guy calls himself a man of God??? Good heavens, no wonder church membership is dropping like a rock. His words are not from God; in fact, does he ever praise God or try and teach the message of Jesus Christ? Hate has no place in "churches" that teach intolerance. This guy is a political hack, and needs to search his own soul. A spiritual leader must answer to a much higher authority and be a moral example. If they cannot do this, then a congregation needs to remove them.

I love Barack Obama, and he is still my candidate, but it is distressing that he would stay in a church that is so empty of love and filled with hate.


Obama listened to this man's hate sermons for a long time.
Why didn't he walk away? I couldn't remain in a church that put out such views that is in direct opposition of christianity. What did Obama and Ms. Obama tell their girls about such sermons? The Senator makes excuses and put "good spins" on his poison. This is really sad.


I am an educated (BS Accounting - Univ. Of IL - Urbana, MBA - Northwestern), black woman who attends Trinity United Church of Christ where Rev. Wright has been the minister for the past 36 years. I have been attending that church for the past 30 years.

That does NOT mean that I agree with everything Rev Wright has said over the years. Most of you have never attended the church. You are taking 1-3 sermons you may have seen on YouTube and acting like that's all Rev. Wright talks about every Sunday.

Most of you writing are in the majority. Minorities face racism everyday. It could be as simple as a white person at work not wanting to shake my hand, to not wanting to sit next to me on the bus.

Trinity is part of the United Church of Christ which is a predominantly white demonination. However, most of the members at Trinity are black. It is located on the south side of the Chicago which is also predominantly black.

Rev Wright is a very educated minister with several degrees. However, he is very passionate about politics and what racism has done and continues to do to black people. No one goes to this church and becomes brain washed. Many of us see examples of what he talks about in our everyday lives. For examples, schools in black neighborhoods that are not modernized or well maintained, school books that are 10 years old, etc. Black people in this country have always had to do more with less. That's not being rascist that's being truthful.


Has The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Said anything false about the American History yet? America's foul history is true. we supply guns,drugs,and terriorism around the world and has been for ever! We play both side of the field Rev. Wright and other blacks should remember what they had to endure just to live here! Thank God for Malcom X



If Obama is the Democratic nominee, the Green Party will do very well, even if they nominate a dog -- if they nominated "Uno," they might even win.

But McCain will win in November unless the Dems get wise and realize Obama is hopelessly tainted by twenty years of association -- by his choice -- with a man who hates whites and the United States, a man who does pelvic thrusts and makes sexual comments while preaching in his church. He has some peculiar ideas about Christianity.

Rev. Wright went to Libya with Farrakhan to meet Qadafi and has said Farrakhan is a good man and Qadafi is a good man. Maybe Rev. Wright is in the wrong country. Maybe Barack and Michelle Obama are, too.

Unity? Hope? Pull the other one, Barack. We are not buying your lies anymore.


A little bit on the wacky side, but poison for Obama? Nooo.
Ok I don't think we started AIDS, that's a little crazy.

But a lot of the stuff quoted here is 100% correct, sorry if your offended by it but he's telling the truth. There are more black people in jail than college, we do bomb a kill a lot of innocent people, and while I in general support Israel, we have to have common sense and not support them launching rockets at civilians.

Yes the preachers comments are a little off, but how many preachers do you know that don't say something crazy every now and then.

Where are the spy's in McCains church? And does Hillary even go to church? Come on.


Pastors can be idiots in the name of "gd" and some seniors are missing their "off" switch. I still shake my head at some of the crazy comments my grandfather made before he passed.

you can't punish the receipients of their praise, as it is not them saying it.


Please, America, don't jump to conclusions. Wright may be a lunatic when it comes to his political views - but have we heard him do a regular sermon, or have we just heard what gets on the news? The fact that Obama sits in his church for 20 years to me means that Wright goes off on nutjob tangents every once in a while, but overall is just a preacher who teaches the gospel like any other. Obama has never shown one bit of favoritism towards other members of the black community the way Wright does.

My grandpa is an extremely racist man, but I love him very much, and I don't dare disrespect my elder even when he's wrong. I just ignore it. This is how Obama seems to be treating Wright.

Just calm down, folks. Please.


"Actions speak louder than words." At this point, it doesn't matter what Obama says. The fact that he returned again and again to the same church after hearing sermons like this tells me all I need to know. Remember, it was pointed out earlier that Obama wouldn't salute the flag or the national anthem.... This just make it more clear why. When your words and your actions don't match, it is lying. I don't need a bigot of any color.


I'm strongly anti-Clinton and I had a favorable opinion of Barrack as a man who was sincere to bring change, even if he was a bit inexperienced. But now, I would rather see Hillary and Bill back in office over him. The Clintons may be crooks, but at least they aren't hate filled anti-white bigots.


Senator Obama has chosen to sit under this man for 20YRS! That means there has to be some tacit agreement with what he says. Unlike family, I can change churches and Pastors.

This hate-full man married Obama, baptized his children,and was the inspirational quote behind the Senator's book.

Christian or not, Senator Obama says he wants to be a "bridge" across the racial divide. ANY person who was SINCERE in such a statement would NEVER have sat under such racially motivated hate speech for even ONE sermon let alone 20YRS.


We are all doomed! The facts stare us in the face and we fail to accept them. Instead, we spend our time justifing them to our desires. Doomed!


Other than giving the award to Farrakhan and the AIDS line, I don't see anything here that's that big a deal. It's funny to see you (suddenly histrionic) conservatives get all worked up over this. It obviously feels good for you to find some (albiet weak) motivation to be thrilled over these media attacks against a black man's campaign. I'm not saying it's out of deliberate racism, but it's definitely sad for me to see all of you blow up with your "reverse discrimination" and "black David Dukes (sic)." Pretty depressing.
Incidentally, not surprised to see the Tribune letting out these anti-Obama "revelations" out now that they've helped bury Clinton. Any paper that endorsed Bush in 2004 should be treated with at least as much suspicion as the likes of Rod Parsley and Jeremiah Wright.


Here we go again…some of you White people need to just be really honest with yourselves and admit you have been WAITING for a reason that would justify your not voting for Barack Obama.

So what if his Pastor is some crazed freak stuck in the civil rights movements from the 50’s!

How many of your Preachers, Pastors, Reverends, Clergy have been ARRESTED for child molestation, corruption, theft? and how many of them stand up at their pulpits right in front of the congregation and put EVERYONE down that does not adhere to what they (or you) believe to be right and wrong while they continuously commit heinous crimes? HYPOCRITES!

Please, you guys are full of Bull! You have been waiting, and waiting for any stupid little excuse to say “I’m not voting for Barack…because he dances with both feet! “ Now you think you have the perfect excuse. His old Pastor who has been retired now for 3-4 months.

You people (and you know who you are!) are PATHETIC, CLOSED MINDED, JERKS! At least own up to your prejudices instead of looking for stupid excuses to justify your dumb A$$ remarks!


Isn't the irony though that this is exactly what Obama stands to rise above? And isn't this exactly the arena the Clinton campaign had been bringing this race into?

Barack never positioned himself as the "black" candidate. He positioned himself as the candidate of a new kind of politics. Change... Hope... and I think he's sincere about this and I think this is where his popularity is coming from.

However, there are those like Ferraro and Pastor Wright and Reverand Hegee... just to name a few... who are stuck in the current atmosphere of us versus them.

Is it just me though... or if you really were looking for a candidate who would prove Wright wrong about America... isn't it Obama? If we gave Obama a chance to govern the way he has proposed he would... and if he really does bring a unifying tone and atmosphere to Washington... isn't this exactly what would shut these dinosaurs up?

On a funny note though... I think the right wingers and Clinton campaign have finally decided to back away from the lies that Barack is a muslim.


the silence from obama on the wright issue is deafening..........what judgement ????? tony rezko.....what judgement ??????? william ayers.....what judgement ???????i said from the beginning this guy is a is a con artist.....jst maybe people will wake up in time .....he will never win the GE.....i can see the swiftboaters and 527's from the GOP now .......dem party is in trouble if he is the candidate,,,,,,,sorry but thats reality.......im a dem but i think the party is too far left and it may sink us in the long run


Your commenters tactics to try terrorize people away from voting for a canidate are a feeble effort by people who've not taken the time to learn about these canidates. Don't listen to the uninformed, research for yourself.


I wish Obama would stop using the term 'provocative" when he talks about his crazy mentor Wright...the term is "anti-american"..but as usual he wants to b.s. the people ..what a joke.


blh
Thank you for your comments.
I am a white Catholic and am not proud of everything that is said and done by our leaders either.
For all the know-it alls here what specifically has Barack Obama said or done that shows he agrees with the statements you talk about on U-tube. He says he deplores such comments.
I assume you are not Christians by your hate filled comments.


Hey Alma, put a black conservative on the Republican ticket and I'd vote for him or her because McCain doesn't fit the bill. I wouldn't vote for Obama because he is a socialist,and an America hater not because he's black. I wouldn't vote for Hillary because she's a criminal, not because she's a woman. Republicans win with ideas not pie in the sky populist bullshit.


Who are you going to blame for this one? Oh, let me guess Hillary. Yes, she made that Rev say all those stupid things. If the Rev. hate America so much WHY is he here? Obama needs to come out and say something about this not just send a comment to the media..Listen to his comment from his campaign. He doesn't agree with SOME of what the Rev.is saying. He needs to stop hiding. Saying Rev. Wright is like an old uncle doesn't cut it. Hey Keith Olbermann where are you today.


Wow -- hundreds of posts regarding the fiery sermons of the Rev. Wright. When people get as angry over the injustices he addresses as they do over his words, then only then will America be truly blessed.


Blh, you are being truthful. There is racism and of course, racism has existed for generations. Unfortunately, that has been a part of man for thousands of years.

I am sure Pastor Wright does not preach what we've been exposed to on a weekly basis, but even just a few times is not good or right. These sermons are of hate, not love and not Christian.

The problems in the black neighborhoods, however, have been made worse by failed liberal Democratic policies. The Chicago school syste, for example, has been ruled for decades by liberal white Democrats. Blighted neighborhoods have been developed by liberal white Democrats. Rather than inspire and provide real opportunities for low income blacks, liberal white Democratic programs have largely been geared to keep low income blacks, low income blacks. To keep them in blighted neighborhoods. To foster and develop families in which the out-of-wedlock birth rates among blacks are now 70 percent. Decades ago, it was more like 20 percent. Liberal white Democratic programs have failed and only made matters worse. And, it's been these programs and systems supported by too many black leaders that have hurt their constituents. That is not being racist, but truthful.


Dont people see that this church was great for Obama while he was getting started in politics. What better affiliation to have when you are running in the southside of Chicago in districts that have or are closeby districts that have had such other leaders as Bobby Rush, Carol Moseley-Braun, and Jessie Jackson,Jr?
Just like Rezko, Obama can distance himself now and give money back now, but without people like Rezko and Rev Wright, Obama would have never got of the ground. These are the types of people that built Obama's political career


Two points this has been out there for months, but the media never moved with it.
Second
He can call him an uncle that he doesn,t agree with, but to be a member of his church for 20 years, married by him, have his children baptised and sit and listen to the man, have his house blessed by this man is a whole different ballgame.
AMERICA WAKE UP


How can you build a campaign based on "unity" and hope when your spiritual leader, mentor of at least 20 years preaches hate, racism, and espouses anti-Semitism?

It has me really questioning about his moral convictions. Barack camp, you have lost one voter.


Testing...testing...


This entire race - on both sides - seems to have devolved into one big "reject, repudiate, condemn"-fest. I, for one, am disgusted and disillusioned.


He disagrees with this pastor, but has been attending his sermons for 20 years? There is a bridge, not far from my apartment, that I could sell anyone who believes this.


The fact that Obama has turned out to be so beyond race and identity politics despite his former pastor’s radical views is a credit to him. He has the wisdom to realize that people like Rev. Wright, (and a whole bunch old Republican Senators) belong to a different era and are in many ways damaged and imperfect goods. There was a time when the Country would not have endorsed an Obama the way it has done now. To expect that such an era would not color the views of some of these old timers is naïve
My sense is that Mr. Obama has the wisdom and compassion to take what is good from some of these wounded and damaged warriors. You may not appreciate this subtlety however.

I wonder how many relatives we have relationship with that we don’t necessarily agree with their views on race, gender equality, sexual preference, religion?


Hate , I mean real hate, just doesn't come to someone that easy. yet we are now witness to someone with genuine hate, and he just happens to be a close friend and closer confidant to someone with a real possibility of becoming President of our Country. Revulsion to this hate mongering by Rev Wright is made worse when you realize that Barak's children are being indoctrinated every week. That there was cheering for the phrase "God Damn America" and most sadly the man who would be President just sat there and didn't walk out, perhaps he joined the in with Reverends jeering? Now I can understand why Michele Obama has been ashamed of America for most of her adult life. Soon, her two daughters will join her shame for America in just a few years. And, this is change? God help us!

Able Easy


It seems common to me that folks are looking for anything.

All I ask is balance: what you seek of Barack Obama, seek the same of everyone else.

It's ludicruous to me that people would decide not to vote for someone because of who that person's pastor is. That, in my opinion, is a veiled attack on religion.

There are number of factors that influence whether one stays or leaves a church. The pastor is one of many but has anyone come close to reporting whether Wright--or any other minister--regularly preaches on these topics?

What's happening now seems to be taking one speech, at one period of time, out of context.


DO we really want 4 possibly 8 years of this garbage?


To all of you here who are condeming the Rev's words, have you really stopped to analyze them or are you just immediately jumping to the conclusion that they must be racist because they're not the typical politically correct words you are used to hearing?

The sad fact is, there is a lot of truth to what the Rev has said - we as Americans are just not accustomed to hearing any sort of criticism of ourselves as a nation.

Folks, America is not perfect - there are MANY documented examples of the offenses that the Rev has outlined - if you just care to do the research.

But I understand it's easier to bury your head in the sand and keep telling yourself that America is the greatest country on earth and can do no wrong.

Ignorance is indeed bliss.


Can someone explain this to me..How can Obama be a racists, anti-white, anti-semitic when HIS BIOLOGICIAL MOTHER IS LILLY WHITE!!!?!?!? His BIOLOGICAL GRANDPARENTS ARE WHITE!! So how can he be a racist against his own mother? You people sound idiotic. Obama can't help what his crazy preacher says. If that were the case then most of these right wing politicians should be blames for who follow Jerry Falwell. He was a straight anti-black, anti-gay and anti-abortion activitist


Hey Lauren.......You try to be so clever with your spin, but your not!!! The article that I can only assume you read is about Reverend Wright. I can only question your reading comprehension!


For you folks in an uproar, I understand that Oprah Winfrey attended the same Church under the same crazy Pastor, for some time. Maybe she is a devious hate monger as well.

The problem is that what goes on in black churches is foreign to most caucasians because this country has been separated for so long by race that it may well be irreparable. First Obama was a muslim, now he is a black Christian radical. Well, which is it?

Obama was trying to end the division between races, political parties and class by embracing all, but those who want the status quo have finally found the magic pill. No, I don't see how Obama could win with the venom that is being spewed presently.

If you read Obama's public record including his earmarks for '05 and '06, which have just been released, you don't see any indication of devious or racist behavior.

I only say that when you end up with John McCain in the end, you get what you bargained for. More war and economic ruin.


I have not heard of such racist comments regarding whites in a long time. The idea that 3 strikes and larger prisons to accommodate the black man is absurb. The good Reverend must have somebody to blame, since obviously, he does not ask simple questions such as what and why? What can I do to assist my brother to stay out of prison? Why don't they take advantage of the student loans and grants for education? It is too easy to blame someone else. Every ethic group has the same problems, if you are poor- broken homes, dearth of education, and all of the other issues. I was going to vote for Obama, but I have a problem, if he has been listening to this venom for 20 years and refers to this man as Uncle.
I know the good Reverend is going to say "oh that is coming from a white person." Yes, I am white, and born into the welfare system with deplorable conditions. However, I continued school, got a degree, and never looked back.
I believed Obama was for change, but my vote would be better served with another candidate.


Obama is a fake.
He'll attack Geraldine Ferraro but embrace his racist pastor.


If anything Rev. Wright is a self-hating, collectivist jerk. I don't like his liberal use of "we". I am an individual who had nothing to do with what you accuse "we" of doing.
However, if you think we are all of one mindset then you include yourself in such deeds as starting AIDS.


I would have to say that Obama will have to distance himself from this. The white man can't handle this kind of talk that the black man has endured for a hundred years.


Oh yes, Hillary is white (obviously).

I didn't realise until the good Reverand told me that she was rich & privledged as well.

She may have some money now, but Bill & Hill didn't after the Whitewater legal bills wiped them out.

And privledged ... Yes, she grew up in "tony" Park Ridge ... In a posh suburban Chicago lakefront estate ... Um, not. She comes from a modest middle-class family. Much like Obama.

I can't wait for the election to be over.


I am a black man and very proud of Sen.Obama!
We have been the white mans slaves for years and now it is our turn to take charge.
Sen. Obama has already pledged slavery reperations and it is about time we got our fair share.


I read all this mess you are writing about Dr. Wright and I wonder what church do I attend every Sunday. It is not the one that is portrayed by this article. Nor is Dr. Wright the person portrayed in a 2 minute clip.
This is the scary part about American. You will believe what you are told to believe. If the media tells you the sky is green you won't even bother to look up and see for yourself. The press showed you several minutes of two or three sermons and you all in your lemming ways said YES his pastor is a racist, his church is racist and the members of his church are racist. He is not, the church is not and I as a member is not. Maybe what you don't know is the United Church of Christ is a predomintly WHITE Protestant denomination. The UCC church is over 50 years old and was the joining of Evangelica and Reformed churches. There are black congregations of which Trinity is the largest.
Think, please would the UCC uphold our affiliaction if we were a racist church?
You call our church racist, what do you really know about racisim. You have not had the experince of being Black in this country. You see things through the lenses of your own life, that does not reflect the lives of the minorities in this country.
My question to you is did Dr. Wright lie about anything in those few minutes of tape? No! Is Hillary Clinton not a white woman how can not relate to what a black man or woman in America lives each day. Did the US not bomb Japan, is our response to bomb first and ask questions later. Are we not in an illegal war? Please if you really want to know the true church, then visit or website at TUCC.org. You can gain information about us and you can videostream live church services on Sundays at 7:30 am, 11:00 am and 7:00 pm.
Get out of the lemming line and make your own judgements.


Barrack Obama along with his America hating wife and their America hating, racist preacher who HATE America and white people are NOT what America needs! VOTE FOR HILLARY!! Before it is too late. THIS is an OUTRAGE.


He cant be responsible for every idiot with a microphone.
Posted by: Wayhne
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But Hillary can. (sarcasm)


"Hillary was not a black boy raised in a single parent home."

Maybe Hillary should try this. I think Bill tried to pull it off once.


"I was born a poor black child."

Steve Martin, "The Jerk" 1979


I guess no one read that this sermon was delivered at Howard University not at church he pastors.

Pick and choose what you want though that is what democracy is about


Let's not forget, if Obama has gone to his church for 20 years, he's also likely been giving 10% of his substantial income to this man.


I appreciate your insight (below), and I am also a U of I alum (all 3 campuses). Although a descendant of a grandparent who was a member of a "minority", it is not apparent in me. I cannot fully relate to your past or your issues, but have my own issues that I had to overcome (most people do). I was also raised in the United Church of Christ, which was basically void of any teaching about Jesus Christ or God, and a waste of time for my siblings, and for me (it was more of a social club, and yes, all white).

If the rhetoric of this pastor were in a political context, I would not have any issues with his opinion. However, a true leader of a church SHOULD be above their personal issues, and teach the word of God. The heart of Christianity is love and forgiveness. When a "church leader" teaches hate and cannot accept all of God's creation, then that person should not be a leader.

We all fall far short, and so do pastors, but they do need to be above such things as racism and hate.

I have been to wonderful predominantly black churches that teach about love, about forgiveness, about brotherhood, and I would guess that most are this way (the same is true in many predominantly white churches, but not all). Some of the most wonderful, God-filled people I know are of African descent, and I admire them a great deal (I guess this is a racist statement?).

I judge Barack Obama as a man and a leader, and do not agree with all of his positions (as a health care professional, I cannot condone abortion, for instance), however, he can unite this country and is the best leader among the three candidates. I do have to admit that attending a church headed by a man like this is troubling, and flies in the face of "Obama the uniter".


"Rev Wright is a very educated minister with several degrees. However, he is very passionate about politics and what racism has done and continues to do to black people. No one goes to this church and becomes brain washed. Many of us see examples of what he talks about in our everyday lives. For examples, schools in black neighborhoods that are not modernized or well maintained, school books that are 10 years old, etc. Black people in this country have always had to do more with less. That's not being rascist that's being truthful."


For months I dismissed all the rhetoric about Obama's preacher and mentor as political garbage, however now after seeing and hearing this hateful nut recently on MSM I've learned my lesson about so easily dismissing these investigative articles. Hearing Rev. Wright was very concerning. He makes Hitler sound like a choir boy.

If Obama really deplores this hate, why has he stayed with this nut for 20 years?


All of you readers please click on this link or cut and paste (http://www.tucc.org/about.htm) to the site of Trinity United Church of Christ website and see what they're about. Minister Wright Jr., Barack Obama's 'spiritual leader', and the church the Obama's belong to is racist.


Judith -- you're right about the Rev. Wright's words. Some of his sermons may be over the top, but at least he's addressing some serious social injustices in our country (and remember he's not advocating violence or lynching whites!) I'm an old white woman who would like to join a church with such a commitment to liberty and justice for all.


This is sensationalistic and lazy journalism. Rev. Wright declined to be interviewed, none of the members of the congregation seem to have been interviewed, and the quotes were culled from hours' worth of video footage. This reportage offers an incomplete and skewed view of this church, and seems to've been published to cause a knee-jerk reaction from anyone unfamiliar with black churches (which unfortunately means most white Christians).
Instead of letting the media mold your mind, do some independent research, attend a black church one Sunday. You will find that everyone there is striving to embody the Christian spirit, just like people in white churches. There's nothing to fear.
And I happen to agree with Wright's stance on America's foreign policy. America is behaving as if it can judge the rest of the world, when it is actually just another country.


The GOP has to be praying for Obama to win. Hilldog has really kept the gloves on. The GOP takes the gloves off they are licking their chops. All the dirt is already out on Hilldog, but with Obama they have a treasure chest of info just waiting to unload


Hey RR: Which way to the start of the second US civil war, putz??


"You see things through the lenses of your own life, that does not reflect the lives of the minorities in this country."

Amen. But, think about your statement for a moment; do black people think they can see things that hispanics, native Americans, jews, muslims, Asians, or any variety of white ethnic groups see? We ALL have blinders on to some degree and what Rev. Wright is preaching is as false as bigoted white supremacist pastors ranted about 100 years ago. This "pastor" is feeding feelings of inferiority and oppression, instead of Obama's message of hope and moving forward together.

This is ALL "separate and destroy", and unfortunately part of human nature. Obama's message of unity flies against this, and that is why this church seems so out of step.


Once again Obama has to grow up and give up this ridiculous demand to have it both ways. He's the hope for all races, but belongs to a racist mega church that totally distorts even the identity of Jesus to promote racial solidarity and a political militancy. I'm fed up with these ignorant pastors who have an obligation to educate as well as inspire. The historical Jesus was a Jew that lived in Judea that was occupied by Romans who didn't even give voting rights to Italians as they were part of the vast Roman clietele and not considered Roman. Does this guy and others like him even read history. The story of Jesus can't be told in terms of black and white, it is richer and broader than that. To deny who he was factually is as silly as if I insisted he was really a female to promote a feminist agenda and to diminish the importance of a legacy that anyone can identify with. That Obama would let his daughters learn such a distortion of Christian history is a matter of judgement of a basic kind. Either he is a believing member of his church or he's just exploiting the church membership to garner support. JFK was catholic. He was a devout Catholic and he had to proove to the American People that he would not bow to papal influence but would be american first and not bring the vatican in to the white house. He never seperated himself from his faith and practiced his faith. Obama has stated he's a christian and that this is his church, his pastor and his spiritual guide. If this is the only christian faith he knows and the only teacher he's had what does this say about him ? If he continues to compare himself to JFK he will have to do better than describing the good Rev. as an old uncle who is occasionaly disagreeable. This is why there is a seperation of church and state in the constitution and why preachers should quit trying to step over that line Politics do not belong in the church, any church. Is the IRS checking this out, sounds like political stumpin at a tax exempt establishment to me.


Honestly, if you're going to assume that Barack Obama is lying when he says he disagrees with these statements, you might as well just stick your fingers in your ears and yell out "I HATE OBAMA I HATE OBAMA I HATE OBAMA!"

But if you're actually willing to use your brain, answer this: what has Obama said or done to indicate that he holds these views? What did he write in his books? Say in his speeches?

Answer: nothing. Not one thing. You can, however, find a lot of evidence to show he doesn't hold these beliefs.

If you're going to ignore the evidence and attack him, at least admit that's what you're doing. Don't pretend you're being rational. You're not.


Equally appalling was watching Obama's fellow parishioners in the church clap, cheer and convort with delight in response to Wright's hate-filled sermons.

These are the people Obama has chosen to associate himself with for nearly 25 years. Unbelievable. Obama is truly the trojan horse of hate.


I'm 31 male and white. All I've got to say is, that if I went to a church that had a preacher saying HALF of what this guy said, only reversed talking about black Americans. I would have left before the sermon was over - and would not have come back. Certainly not for 20 more years.


Hey, lets all hold Hillary responsible for all the racist remarks her associates are uttering in their private circles, because she is solely responsible for what they think and say. Very childish. Anything else you would like to blame on Obama, world hunger maybe or how about Iraq as well?


What a bloody double standard as usual! It is totally OK for so-called right wing broadcasters to lambast Obama or anybody from the ethnic minorities who are challenging the main stream white society with racial slurs but apparently it is not OK for a black minister to speak his mind. Guess how many of those right wingers actually hang out with Billary. I bet a lot.


People need to think a little bit about what members of minority groups experience in this country. I mean Obama is biracial, but still he probably was marginalized as just another black man all his life. Everybody wants some sense of belonging, especially in a place one calls home. How would you feel if you live in a place that you call home that doesn't accept you? You have two options: try to convince everybody that you are not what they call you (e.g. Tiger Woods, etc) or find a place that you feel accepted, a place for refuge. Pastor Wright is just an extreme example of the later option. Plus, Wright grew up during the hottest flames of racism. He's psychologically affected by his childhood upbringing, during which he was probably constantly reminded that he's less of a human being because of his color. That can have a lot of effect on someone in their adult life.


It's getting pretty ugly, all this vitriol. The number of people who will believe any thing bad about Obama is approaching the number who will believe anything bad about Clinton, no matter how irrational. For the life of me, I cannot see how the idiotic views of a supporter, Ferraro or Wright or whomever, translate into the views of the candidate. As to sitting through a sermon and disagreeing with it all, yet continuing to attend the church, this is standard practice in Catholism. Trust me on that.


This is a really terrible time for Obama. I don't know how he will recover if he does not explain his church and his relationship with the pastor in great detail. I am seeing it on these message boards; the very people who voted for him are starting to lose faith in what he offers the country. In case you didn't know it, this is OBAMA's SWIFTBOAT- this attack came directly fron the Republicans and it is a good one with the ability to SINK his campaign. The thing you have to focus on IS because the Republicans have said this does it make it TRUE- does it make Obama a different candidate from the one you knew before. Was John Kerry different in his being after they ran the swiftboat ads? No, he was the SAME patriot he has always been. This country fell for Republican dirty tricks and lost the election in 2004. Are you going to fall for them again? Are you going to think that Obama HATES his white mother who gave him life and his WHITE GRANDPARENTS who raised him? Take out his pastors inflammatory language and get to the core TRUTHS he is espousing. America has made foreign policy decision that have maimed and killed people living outside of this country (this is FACT). We are doing this right now in IRAQ. His pastor believes us being attacked on 9/11 was retaliation for our foreign policy decisions that have killed and maimed- think about it for a second- IS that assertion really so out of the ball park? Don't we WANT a foreign policy that is JUST for all of humankind? One that WILL ENSURES we are not hated enough to be attacked in the outrageous way we were on 9/11? If you as a white person can truly think for a second and try to join your black brothers and sisters (we are ALL HUMAN BEINGS) in this journey and I KNOW you have the decency in you to understand- BLACK AMERICANS have had to LOVE this country when it DID NOT LOVE US. This is the ULTIMATE ACT of love for your country. THAT is the BLACK EXPERIENCE. WHITE People do not have that UNIQUE experience. In the pastor's words WHITES hear HATRED because that has been your experience- to hate and terrorize black americans from slavery to Jim Crow. If you listen closer, you will find what you ACTUALLY hear is ANGER at being SOUGHT OUT for the bad things in country and being EXCLUDED from the good things in the United States. ANGER comes from injustices. If you dig deep into your souls, you know that we can address these SOCIAL INJUSTICES so we can become the HUMAN FAMILY. Whites seems to think Obama sat there day after day and absorbed HATRED or even ANGER- Have you EVER thought he sat there day after day and said I WILL REPAIR this breach of TRUST that has occured between America and its citizens AND Americans of different races. Obama has said his presidency could bring about racial reconciliation and he is abosolutely RIGHT but do you think it will be easy? Of course not, we as Americans will have to face some UGLY truths about America and then seek to stamp them out. This is our chance to make a MORE PERFECT UNION- one where Pastor Wright can ONLY say GOD BLESS AMERICA for the way she has served her citizens. Are you going to let the REPUGNICANS take this away from you? They WILL you saw it in 2004!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA 08!!!!!!!


Barack Obama have the strength of character to weather this storm and CREATE A MORE PERECT UNION in the vein of the GREAT AMERICAN Presidents that have come before you- Lincoln, Roosevelt, Kennedy....


It's getting pretty ugly, all this vitriol. The number of people who will believe any thing bad about Obama is approaching the number who will believe anything bad about Clinton, no matter how irrational. For the life of me, I cannot see how the idiotic views of a supporter, Ferraro or Wright or whomever, translate into the views of the candidate. As to sitting through a sermon and disagreeing with it all, yet continuing to attend the church, this is standard practice in Catholism. Trust me on that.


Black people only vote for Black people? So why don't we do a count of white and black people holding seats in political office today and see which race outweighs the other?

People need to wake up to the fact that historically black people have not come out in droves to vote for black candidates because we are MUCH harder and tougher on our own black race than any other. For decades Black people have been very conscientious of Black candidates that we support because we don’t want white people to say EXACTLY what they have been saying. “They only vote for him/her because their Black!” Also, Black people don’t want a black politician who says what he thinks we want to hear or someone who is there because of affirmative action. Black people don't want to elect any black candidate into office that will do something very, very wrong. Because when ONE black person makes a mistake ALL black people are judged for it. When one (or hundreds of thousands) of white people make a inhumane very public tragic mistake against the human race (slavery, poll-tax, segregation, equal rights, etc) that one white individual person is held accountable and everyone else takes a pass.
Meanwhile the entire white race benefits from it while everyone else suffers.

Can someone please explain that logic to me?

This is not about a ‘race card’ this is about the truth. America (unfortunately) is a hate filled, racist country. It is not just one race hating the other. It is many, many races tragically hating each other for the sins of our forefathers and for today’s society which just wants to turn a blind eye instead of addressing the blatant racism in jobs, housing, education, Loans, equal rights in general. This contest for Presidency is reminding everyone in a very media heightened way exactly how racist they really are. And the truth hurts.

Why are we not discussing the fact that Hillary Clinton is a white woman who would not be able to run for office if it wasn’t for who she was married to? Hillary’s experience amounts to 8 years in the white house as a wife to the president. A couple of over seas visits where she did a song and dance show with Sinbad the comedian for the troops, A SPEECH in Northern Ireland (she did NOTHING else), and most recently 6 years as a NY Senator (has done NOTHING in NYC). Because racist people would rather vote for a white inexperienced woman, before they vote for a qualified black man.

Who said racism was dead?

THE MORE THINGS CHANGE…THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME HUH?


It turns out that racism is prevalent in both the Hillary and Obama camps. Who knew?


I find the defenders of the pastor and his comments to be incredible! It would seem that a black man can say virtually anything and be justified in saying it.
This man is a hardcore racist and America hater and When this speech is widely disseminated , Barack Obama's chances of becoming President will be ZERO!
McCain himself will not have to say a word about this! The support groups will only have to publish the actual tapes and let the public make up their own mind! Obama is toast!!


Sen Obama has some real problems here; his whole basis for being president is that he has sound judgement, is a leader and can make change.

Concerning judgement: He has stated that Rev. Wright is his mentor. A mentor is a teacher and a trusted advisor. A mentor gives you guidance and background on how to make sound judgements in life. Rev Wright's position as mentor is much more significant than if he was a rogue campaign worker or staffer and is more reflective as to the position of the candidate. If Rev Wright's teachings are the basis for Barak's judgement, I can't feel confortable in his decisions.

Concerning leadership: Sen. Obama wants to be the leader of this country. Yet, if he is so profoundly in disagreement with Rev. Wright's viewpoints, he should have taken the leadership as an elder within his own church community to counter the divisive and hateful language from Rev. Wright.

On change: Barak contends that he will be a change agent. This has not been demonstrated within his church community. It is not unusual to take the initiative and work to remove a pastor from a pulpit when his preachings are contrary to the mission of the church and the principles of the congregation. With respect to this aspect and issue, Sen Obama has just voted 'present'.


Obama is going to this church for 20 years. It not his” old uncle”. It is his minister.
Obama could choose a different church if he disagrees with Rev. Jeremaih Wright.
Obama didn’t, he got married din this church, and he baptized his kids in this church.
One thing is your supporters saying something, another thing you go to church every Sunday and listen to this.
I am shocked. I didn’t pay attention to stories about Obama church until I saw this.
It is not acceptable.


I'm sorry, But as Roman Catholic, I have to say that Roman Caytholics have very little room to criticize Obama on this account.

We attend a church which discriminates against women blatantly, has been (and continues to be)an active participant in conspiracies to obsruct justice in cases of pedophilia, and has made openly political statements from the pulpit on a regular basis.

Let he who is sinless among you cast the first stone.


If members of a congregation had to agree with and believe in every word their pastor utters over a 20-year period or walk out, our churches would be empty or filled with mindless cattle.

And I recall some of the right-wing Republican "reverends" - Pat Robertson & Falwell - also blaming America's woes as the results of America's "sins". So, by your logic should everyone in their congregations or regular viewers of their TV evangelist spin-offs also be equally condemned? If I recall, these same “reverends” endorsements were accepted by Bush, Giuliani and McCain. So, why should anyone vote, or have voted, for them?

So stop being so hypocritical by demonizing Wright. Ministers often give voice to feelings that congregation members cannot publically voice – some legitimate, some over the top. That’s not Obama’s problem – it’s the nature of organized religion in America. Accept it –all, or condemn it –all. But don’t cherry pick and condemn the ones who support candidates you happen to dislike. Thant is the essence of hypocrisy.

African Americans have every right in the world to be less than enthralled over what a fabulous country this is. Until you've walked in another man's shoes, your criticism is no more than blind hate - exactly what you condemn Rev. Wright for.


Now wait a minute ... I thought you all were saying that Obama is a Muslim. So how can he belong to the Trinity United Church of Christ? Or does he only belong for the next few days so y'all can slam him for what his pastor said ... and then he can go back to being a Muslim again? Gosh, racism can be so confusing. I hope y'all can keep these two stories straight before you think of any more to add to this big smelly shitpile.


I see that we still look for the worst in someone like never before. I see that we have taken into our hearts the fear that has been showered on us since sept. 11. Why do we look for the worst in someone to give our own views credit. When Obama looks at a man that help shape his life, he is not becoming him, he is taking the good from him and using it to better himself. Jesus died over 2000 years ago. He can not walk around and lead us in person like he did back then. We are all sinners now and will make many mistakes in our words and actions. But as my forfathers who were here and fought and died in the revolutionary war, I will defend his right to speak his thoughts on our country. If he feels the way he does then we must let him speak! We all have people we love that have views we don't approve of but we don't fault everything they say because of it. We never take all of someone and induct it into our morals and beliefs. If we did, we would all be pretty messed up people. Lets take a look at our lame duck president for a minute. He is very close to the Saudi's royal family. Didn't one of them have involvement in the biggest terror attack on our country? Does that make Bush a terrorist? I know he is not the smartest man alive but I know he isn't a terrorist. Think about it!


News flash: Racism still exists in America, and pointing that out is an important part of any pastor's work. Racism is built into American society in a way that benefits white people and disadvantages people of color. A responsible pastor doesn't ignore something so big and painful in his congregation members' lives.

I'm a white person, and I don't think the quotes CNN pulled out were hate-filled. "agnostic" is right-on that this is lazy and irresponsible journalism by CNN. Maybe CNN needs to do more investigating into the reality of racism (and sexism) instead of playing these identity games between the campaigns.


Believe anything? Obama, himself, has said he's gone to this church for 20 years. His kids were baptized into it. There's no spinning this. Obama IS a member of Wright's church. A part of its leadership, nonetheless.


The Bushes=skull & bones three generations. Bill Clinton=Rhode society & Quigley. We had two Presidents in office who father for Bush Sr. grandfather Bush Jr. had all kinds of ties to Hilter in the face of America during a time of war. What do the Jew/ish think about that if they even know and if so can it be a connection between The Order, The Elders of Zion & International Banker gangsters. I have a true question to ask please someone if you can answer fill free. Where in any government document it state Blacks are now considered a man as opposed to being 3/4 of a man.


The Israel-hating Jeremiah Wright is more than just Obama's spiritual adviser and close friend. As this Dec. 4, 2007, Obama campaign press release makes clear, Rev. Wright is part of Obama's "African American Religious Leadership Committee":

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/obama/obama120407pr.html

Yes, this man was made (and for all we know still is) an official part of Obama's campaign.


We are ALL ONE HUMAN RACE!
I don’t care about your skin color, gender or religion is - as long as you treat me with the same respect you expect to receive you are cool in my book.

We should be debating issues about the economy, how to safely bring our troops home, protecting our borders, immigration, education, mortgage crisis, healthcare, jobs, poverty in America and which candidate is the best one to help us better help ourselves and our families.

Not arguing like silly children about the color of people skin and the religion.

Let’s base our decisions about these 2 candidates on their qualifications. NOT our prejudices, illogical reasoning, assumptions, and biased point of views. It may sound corny but it worth a try especially if we can finally get a candidate that helps us the people who are losing homes, jobs and lives because of the egos of politicians in Washington, DC.

We have to start holding these candidates accountable for more than the skin color, gender and religion.

Title VII: also prohibits discrimination against an individual because of his or her association with another individual of a particular race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.


Blacks 4 Barack (A Multi-Racial Org.)
Announces:
The 'WE WILL NOT BE CHEATED'
Phone Campaign To DNC !

Out of desperation, the Clinton campaign has stooped to extreme lows by having surrogate Geraldine Ferraro in the media making racist statements against Barack Obama combined with prompting the media to attempt to chastise Obama for rhetoric spewd by not him....but by his preacher! Realistically speaking, it is a fact that even if Hillary wins Pennsylvania there is absolutely no way she can get enough delegate votes to defeat Obama. And her BIG ploy now is to have a 're-do' in Michigan and Florida, despite the fact that this would be a changing of the rules in the middle of the game which should not be allowed. (rules that Howard Dean of the DNC, Harold Ickes, a chief Hillary advisor and Donna Brazil a regular on CNN who never exposes that she helped set the rules in August of 2007 as a member of the DNC Laws and ByLaws Committee) If allowed to have the rules changed for her benefit, Hillary then hopes that, after stealing the nomination, she will offer Obama the V.P. slot....figuring that if he excepts, Obama supporters will vote for her....while if he does not....she would at least look like she offered the slot. THIS IS UNEXCEPTABLE !

Hillary Clinton's (and the DNC's)coniving tactics will end up ruining the Democratic Party. Now is the time to let Howard Dean, Donna Brazil, Harold Ickes and the entire DNC know that if Hillary wins through ANY methods deemed trickery (which is the only way she can win) WE....THE PEOPLE WILL NOT SUPPORT HER IN THE GENERAL ELECTION !

National radio talk show host Warren Ballentine is asking EVERYONE to call the DNC at 202-863-8000 to let them know 'We Will Not Support A Cheater !'We need 50 thousand Americans of all ages, races and creeds to FLOOD THE PHONES !!! Call Today !!!! 202-863-8000. Say It Loud....WE WILL NOT SUPPORT A CHEATER.....PERIOD!!! Tell everyone you know to make this call. The Time Is NOW....for the Re-Birth of America !!!!

NOTE: The Media refuses to inform America that OBAMA WON TEXAS !!!!!

Visit: www.Blacks4Barack.org (a multi-racial organization)


WOW looks like Obamba is already uniting this country. WHAT A JOKE!
If any of you think that he can unite this country you are sadly mistaken.
Obama's election would do more to drive us apart then anything since the civil war.

We can only hope and pray that peole come to their senses before it is too late.
Obama is truly the great deceiver!


We are ALL ONE HUMAN RACE!
I don’t care about your skin color, gender or religion is - as long as you treat me with the same respect you expect to receive, you are cool in my book.

We should be debating issues about the economy, how to safely bring our troops home, protecting our borders, immigration, education, mortgage crisis, healthcare, jobs, poverty in America and which candidate is the best one to help us better help ourselves and our families.

Not arguing like silly children about the color of the candidates skin and their pastors!

Let’s base our decisions about these 2 candidates on their qualifications. NOT our prejudices, illogical reasoning, assumptions, and biased point of views. It may sound corny but it worth a try especially if we can finally get a candidate that helps us the people who are losing homes, jobs and lives because of the egos of politicians in Washington, DC. For the first time in my generation we have some really good candidates to pick from.

We have to start holding these candidates accountable for more than the skin color, gender and religion.

Title VII: also prohibits discrimination against an individual because of his or her association with another individual of a particular race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

If it wasn’t for this law neither Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton would not be running for office. Period.


We are ALL ONE HUMAN RACE!
I don’t care about your skin color, gender or religion is - as long as you treat me with the same respect you expect to receive, you are cool in my book.
We should be debating issues about the economy, how to safely bring our troops home, protecting our borders, immigration, education, mortgage crisis, healthcare, jobs, poverty in America and which candidate is the best one to help us better help ourselves and our families.

Not arguing like silly children about the color of the candidates skin and their pastors!

Let’s base our decisions about these 2 candidates on their qualifications. NOT our prejudices, illogical reasoning, assumptions, and biased point of views. It may sound corny but it’s worth a try especially if we can finally get a candidate that helps us the people who are losing homes, jobs and lives because of the egos of politicians in Washington, DC. For the first time in my generation we have some really good candidates to pick from.

We have to start holding these candidates accountable for more than the skin color, gender and religion.

Title VII: prohibits discrimination against an individual because of his or her association with another individual of a particular race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

If it wasn’t for this law neither Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton would not be where they are. Period.


Jeremiah comments are wrong and racist however Senator OBAMA strongly repudiate these statements.I have a feeling that soon or later the race and gender factor will play a bigger role in this presidential election and will get even uglier. Sen. Clinton and Sen. Mc Cain or there campaign surrogates will use these factors as a political weapon to remind voters whom to vote for. This is an unfortunate outcome that will have a negative impact on both parties and more importantly the country.


Some other shocking news. Guess who else has been listening to these sermons each sunday and inhaling his words.....Miss Oprah Winfrey. What does that tell you. Both are from the same church.


Sen. Obama needs to do the right thing and leave this congregation. Not only is the pastor ranting and raving, the congregation is cheering and applauding and nodding in the affirmative. Isn't there anything better on the spiritual scene? If he needs this brand of theology so much, he may be unfit for the highest office in the land. The President represents all of us, not some of us. And if the President clings to some of us who are hating the rest of us, then the President is unfit for the office.


This is the church his kids learn from. Every Sunday they sit and absorb hate speech. Poor parental judgement. Poor political judgement.


The President represents all of us, not some of us. And if the President clings to some of us who are hating the rest of us, then the President is unfit for the office.

Posted by: Mandalay | March 14, 2008 3:57 PM

Does that include those who hate the homsexuals among us?


After listening to all the hate being spewed on this blog, it leads me to believe that freedom of speech, and freedom of religion are viewed through a subjective prism. For example, if there was a Muslim minister, who preached the evils of Zionism based on the Israeli treatment of his fellow Muslims in Palestine, that Muslim minister would be labelled anti-semitic(by the way, Arabs are a semitic people). On the other hand, if there was a rabbi who commanded his congregation to rally around Israel and its policies, he would be viewed as one of the "chosen," not a racist. The same religious hypocrisy is true of evangelical Christians who condemn a man because of his name -, Hussein (which, by the way, is of a semitic origin as is Jesus, Joseph, and Mary).

While our founding fathers in their great wisdom tried to separate religion from the state envisioning a society of multiple faiths, they also understood the pulpit would not fully ignore the state of the union. Ministers like Wright who have suffered in their lifetime may be strong in their condemnation of the ills of our society, but without acknowledging the imperfection within our democracy, Americans of all faiths will never go beyond their own comfort zone, their own congregation, their own neighborhoods. As moral Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and other faiths, we need to remember that a nation built on the tenets of equality and justice cannot shirk from the responsibility of allowing all people to listen to their leaders (spiritual and political) and make their own moral judgments.


Don Imus, a radio personality, had his words brought to light on network tv and many of his old pals (liberal reporters and politicians) begged ignorance. He was drummed from radio in spite of a life of color-blind charity. Reverend Al had a field day.
Last week a worker/student at an Indiana University was punished for reading a book about Notre Dame's battles with the klan. The book's title was reason enough for his fate. It said klan right where anyone could see and become offended.


What a spew of hate coming from the black pulpit. This explains some of his Muslim sympathy.

I also question him for his crack use while in the Illinois senate. He said he only used it in his teens, which is not true.

http://www.rense.com/

Scroll down until you see the first Rense Sinclair interview. The guy is actually credible.


Im 14 but i no wat im talkin about. There is no way that barrock can be elected now. He needs to get that stupid Jerimiah to shut the hell up. We whites may have caused slavery but it is one of the best things that has ever happened to the African Americans. I am truly sorry for the blacks about slavery but if we would not have had slavery they would be in Africa starving and dying. So if Jerimiah doesnt like it over here he can go back to Africa.


Sounds like the Rev Wright is doing his utmost to keep hate alive and well in America. Does Obama intend to unite us the same way his spiritual advisor tries to unite his congregation, through racist and anti-American rhetoric?


I am a black man and very proud of Sen.Obama!
We have been the white mans slaves for years and now it is our turn to take charge.
Sen. Obama has already pledged slavery reperations and it is about time we got our fair share.

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im proud to be white and whoever you are that said obama wanted slavery and he was gona get it u are so wrong. if he tried to put whites under slavery do you know how fast the C.I.A would take hes dumb black ass out. they would take him out faster than they did Dr. Martin Luther King JR. so shut the hell up when u dont no wat the hell ur talkin about when you could be doin something good with ur life like cleanin my car bitch


As a former Obama supporter, I simply cannot understand how Barak was not vetted earlier. Why did Barak not himself bring this to public attention? Did he think none of this would come out? He could have dealt with this a year ago if he had been forthright. Why did his campaign handlers not see this? Did they not know? Did they so underestimate the American public that they thought we wouldn't care? I am absolutely SHOCKED at the stupidity of the Obama camp. This Democrat is voting for Hillary in four weeks and McCain in November.


Barack Obama is the right man for this time. Just because his now-retired minister said some emotional things (I agree that Hillary does not know what it is like to walk in Barack's shoes as a black man raised by a single mother, who HAS been called the n-word...).
I believe that Barack is walking in the path that Jesus did. I see a lot of people throwing stones, what was it Jesus said- "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Barack has been the only candidate with the strength to stay on the high road in this campaign.

Furthermore, Today Barack stated,

I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.

Because these particular statements by Rev. Wright are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of my relationship with Rev. Wright and my membership in the church. Let me therefore provide some context.

As I have written about in my books, I first joined Trinity United Church of Christ nearly twenty years ago. I knew Rev. Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago. He also led a diverse congregation that was and still is a pillar of the South Side and the entire city of Chicago. It's a congregation that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS.

Most importantly, Rev. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. In other words, he has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.

The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. But because Rev. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church.

Let me repeat what I've said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country.

With Rev. Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good. And while Rev. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States


OK. if barack didnt believe in what the reverend was saying then y has he been in the church for so long. his kids where listening to this and if you didnt know his wife VERY VERY racist. those are bad parenting skill and bad political skills. and if u didnt know he wont bow to the american flag, he wont stand for the national anthem, and he wont even put his hand on the bible. do we really want a president that isnt loyal to the country he SAYS that he loves. all of you people need to wake up and realize that barrack is the worst thing that could EVER happen to the united states of america. he says he will unite us but he will do noting more than destroy out country. people i am not old enough to vote because im only 14 but i will be 18 during the next election time and that is why i am following this story. if he does get elected presiden when i turn 18 i would NEVER vote for him not in a million years. do what is right for our country and he is not the person to lead this nation, Hillary Clinton is.


Obama's religious affiliation: http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

After reading the 10 POINT VISION to Obama's church.Here are my thoughts:

I don't care if he's friggin purple with aspirations to walk on water. But I DO draw the line at patriotism to OUR country. I'm not going to help put a man in office who is "unashamedly black and unapologetically christian who has a NON-NEGITIABLE COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
I don't care what his religion is as long as his interest is in the betterment of OUR country. I have huge problems with a man, who for 20 years has been a member of a church who has a vision of a "NON-NEGOTIABLE COMMITMENT TO AFRICA."


Pastor Wright is not a pastor. He is just a racist political shill using the cloak of religion to pull the wool over his mainly miseducated and uneducated congregations' eyes. If this country is run by rich white men,,, so what. I'll bet Pastor Wright makes ten times more money from the suckers who listen to him, than does this po' boy (I happen to fit in the light skin color category). Ask pastor Wright where the money of all the rich black men goes. i.e. the actors, sport stars, etc., etc. I'll bet he'll have a mouth foaming answer for that too.


Muslims Against Sharia call on Senators McCain and Obama to cut all ties with their racist, Islamophobic, and anti-Semitic supporters.

McCain: http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/03/mccains-spiritual-guide-destroy-islam.html
Obama: http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/03/racist-congregation-cheering-racist.html


The truth is finally starting to come out and the truth will set you free. America, wake up and smell the coffee. OB's not on the level on his pastor or much else it seems. He only speaks the truth when he get's caught. How much more is lingering out there for the Republicans to use, if, and that's a big IF, he were lucky enough to get the nomination. Our country needs "US" to stand-up for her now. Our future lingers in the balance of the impending primaries & general election. We need a Pres. to restore our standing. We need Hillary, not inexperience & a very questionable past with what little has come out so far, or Senator, more of the same, McCain.


Obama joined this church simply to immerse himself in the black community. Obama was raised by white people. He attended Columbia University and Harvard Law. He did not have a deep connection to the black community growing up. After Harvard Law he became a community organizer in Chicago. He directed an organization to register voters from from predominantly poor black communities. He needed to be a part of the community he was attempting to organize. I believe he joined this black church to jump right into the heart of the black community. In a way it was a political move, but I dont think it was in a calculating way. He needed to be accepted in to the black community and be a part of the black community if he was going to gain their trust and be able to help them in their communities. Yes, he also wanted to explore a side of himself he had never explored before, his blackness, his black roots, but a mainly think it was a political move to join and continue to be a part of this community.


After skimming through much of what was written above, I am embarrassed by the blatant racism that still exists in this country. I'm a white middle-aged man who voted for Reagan twice. I look where we are today in this country and we seemingly have 3 choices: McCain, Clinton, and Obama. McCain I rule out because of his stance on Iraq (the solution is political, not military - this has been the case since the beginning). Clinton I rule out because of ethics (the truth, all too often, is distorted for political gain). Obama, while he no doubt has his limitations (I do not like that he doesn't completely embrace free-markets), these limitations don't rise to the levels of concerns I have for McCain and Clinton.

I grew up in Philadelphia - I surely understand racial tension. But I moved past that years ago. Clearly, as evidenced by the posts above, many others have not. It seems to me that the best answer to our future is our youth - they seem to get Obama and his message of reconciliation.


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