People, do not even dignify this crap with meaningful posts. Thankfully, Cheney and Bush are in our rear-view mirrors! Goodbye, suckers!

“Those who act in good faith to defend this country… should not be hassled by lawsuits and trial lawyers,’’ Cheney said.

Seems like a good defense to use in the future for any and all legal actions.

"Gee, your honor. I know I robbed the bank, but I was acting in good faith!!"

To paraphrase BrwnSknGurl, don't let the door hit you or W in the ass on the way out.

It’s easy to criticize someone’s actions when you’re not the one taking responsibility. Plus, if GWB hadn't taken the USA on the offensive people would criticize him of sitting back and doing nothing. When your president from now on, it seems all your decisions will be lose/lose when it comes to your enemy’s opinion. Go Mitt Romney!

The worst part is that McCain will continue this disaster and create more. McCain is just 4 more years of Bush. McCain said it himself in Florida. "my friends" Iraq will be a long war, and there will be others. I am amazed that there are still people that believe anything good will come from this.

We'll see if he sings the same tune once the war crime trials begin.

Lets hear it for the greatest fascist dictator since Adolph Hitler!
W! W! W!

I don't always agree with him, but you always know exactly where Cheney stands.

BSG--get a life. We are for coservative values. We want to keep more of our wages not give it away to some "feel good" socialistic (read communist) program. America needs more stand up people like W and Cheney and Condi as well, may GOD Bless Them.

Impeach. Remove from office. Bring to trial on war crimes.

Do it now.

Final flip flop of the campaign: Romney two days ago: "We're going to keep fighting, the campaign goes on." Romney today: "It's over."

I guess Mrs. Romney finally put her foot down when she realized that that $35 million her husband blew means less new shoes for her and laying off some of the illegal immigrant yard help.

Make it stop! Please. Him and the crowd with him should go live in the Middle East that we are bombing for oil and enjoy it.

I love it.

Cheney of all people coming out and saying the US does not torture. At the same time this buffoon has justified waterboarding (torture) in the past. Well Dick, it's either torture, or it isn't.

Since the US prosecuted a US soldier during Vietnam for waterboarding North Vietnamese AND the FEDERAL government convicted a sheriff and his deputies of waterboarding a prisoner in 1983, my guess is that the US government, which Cheney tries to exclude himself from, apparently DOES think waterboarding is torture. And since Negroponte and Hayden have admitted that the US has waterboarded at least 3 al Qaeda, it appears that the VP still can't figure out what's legal or not in this country.

What does he mean "[he] would [ ] support those same decisions today"?

"VP" Cheney MADE those decisions. Chimpy McFlightsuit didn't make those decisions, as we all know - he just went along with Dick.

"CHENEY LAW SPEAKS"

OF COURSE WE WOULD SPY, EAVESDROP, WIRETAP, DATA MINE AND CIRCUMVENT THE CONSTITUTION AGAIN.

OF COURSE WE WOULD FABRICATE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

OF COURSE WE WOULD LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, AND DETAIN EVERY FABRIC OF THE CONSTITUTION.

OF COURSE, I WOULD SAY "F" YOU AMERICA, JUST LIKE I DID ON THE SENATE FLOOR.

OF COURSE WE WOULD "CAGE VOTES" IN AMERICA.

OF COURSE WE WOULD SUPPRESS THE MILITARY VOTE ABROAD.

OF COURSE WE WOULD DO IT ALL OVER, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE BILLIONS, AND BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF AMERICAN DOLLARS EXCHANGED FOR "EUROS"

OF COUSE WE WOULD DO IT AGAIN, BUT RIGHT NOW "QWEST" DIDN'T AND WE ARE IN A WHOLE LOT OF TROUBLE.

IF WE HAD IMMUNITY WE WOULD DO AGAIN TOMORROW!

tomk,

Are you serious? I think you ought to follow your own advice and "get a life" instead of carrying on with your blind, sycophantic following of the three idiots you mentioned.

Dick Cheney sounds like a character out of George Orwell's "1984". Up is down, black is white, freedom is enslavement, right Dick?

Torture? We don't torture. We just change the definition of the word. Stress positions, exposure to cold, sleep deprivation, simulated drowning, and beatings are no longer considered torture. Those actions are now called "enhanced interrogation techniques".

Bombardment, invasion, and occupation are now defined as "spreading democracy".

And if he had a chance to do it all again, he wouldn't hesitate to kill thousands of people and waste a trillion dollars? Sounds like Dick is preparing the way for an insanity plea.

Cheney. . .completely (always will be, too) out of touch with reality. Yes, I agree, let the war crime trials begin!

“Those who act in good faith to defend this country… should not be hassled by lawsuits and trial lawyers,’’ Cheney said.

Seems like a good defense to use in the future for any and all legal actions.

"Gee, your honor. I know I robbed the bank, but I was acting in good faith!!"

To paraphrase BrwnSknGurl, don't let the door hit you or W in the ass on the way out.

Posted by: BobinATL | February 7, 2008 11:58 AM

So you would equate acting in good faith to defend the country to robbing a bank?

So you would equate acting in good faith to defend the country to robbing a bank?

Posted by: heartburn | February 7, 2008 2:22 PM

No. Nor would I equate robbing a bank to murder, which is a much closer fit to our facts.

No. Nor would I equate robbing a bank to murder, which is a much closer fit to our facts.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 7, 2008 2:37 PM

So you agree that the analogy ...
"... Gee, your honor. I know I robbed the bank, but I was acting in good faith!!..."

was way offbase?

VOMIT.

In hindsight Dickster? YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SERVE!!!

Good BYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYE!

Heartburn:

Is it acting in good faith to break the law?? When Bush and his cronies went to Qwest, they told him to get a court order and leave them alone. All the other companies just did whatever W and Cheney told them to. Qwest was told that if they refused, they would never get a government contract from the Bush administration.

And if W and Cheney are so concerned about terrorists, why are they threatening to veto the bill if it does not contain that provision?? What does legal protection for the telephone companies have to do with that?

Thanks, Tim.

And to tomk: Were Dick and W "acting" in good faith to defend their country when they dodged the draft using school waivers (Dick) or hid behind Daddy's connections (W) to smoke pot or do coke in the National Guard, while others were actually "dying" to defend their country? What kind of "good faith" is that??

And have you read a paper lately, tomk? 'Cause if you think Dick or W are concerned about your wages, you're delusional! Poor, hard working Americans have been thrown UNDER the bus by this Administration. But that's right -- conservatives like you actually would rather wallow in your poor, rural areas with record unemployment, if that means gays can't marry or stem cells can't be used for research to cure millions. So, you tell me, who REALLY needs to get a life??!!

The next administration should have the FBI check into Cheney's offshore accounts to see if he profited from the Iraq War from buddies Halliburton, Blackwater and others. This was Cheney's War.

Alternate Caption;

'...and and and I have been told there is a comet, under the kitchen sink, behind the Joy, and from this comet will come forth the forces of evil!!
Oh, it's just the Comet....never mind.'

And they'd be just as wrong the second time as well. Good bye, and bad luck. Don't let it hit you in your large posterior on your way out.

Heartburn:

Is it acting in good faith to break the law?? When Bush and his cronies went to Qwest, they told him to get a court order and leave them alone. All the other companies just did whatever W and Cheney told them to. Qwest was told that if they refused, they would never get a government contract from the Bush administration.

And if W and Cheney are so concerned about terrorists, why are they threatening to veto the bill if it does not contain that provision?? What does legal protection for the telephone companies have to do with that?

Posted by: BobinATL | February 7, 2008 4:02 PM

Thanks- this is at least a reasonable discussion. The issue is not whether laws were broken or not- (there weren't) the issue is how to be able to continue to use electronic surveillance while still ensuring that there is protection for our citizens given that the original FISA laws were preventing our intelligence community from listening to conversations that they were not restricted from by law.

The original FISA law was written before the birth of digital communications technology- this technology allows for voice/data communication using networks that did not exist when FISA was written- and more interestingly, requires almost all of the data transmission to pass through networks located within the US. So when the CIA intercepts a transmission from Pakistan to France, Africa, Austrailia etc.. they are able to do this using US telecomm owned data hubs as the "plug-in" point. So- when the gov't asked the telecoms for access-the telecoms were acting under a directive from the gov't for access to conversations that were legal to listen to. They were acting under good faith, and with the knowledge ( understanding) that the government was using the plug in points legally ( Example: not listening to John E. talking to his therapist). Holding the telecoms accountable would be the equivalent of holding the US Post office accountable for a mailed death threat..

I am as thoroughly disgusted with the Liberal Yellow Dog Democrats as I am with the Wall Street Blue Blood Republicans. Are you serious? The presumptive nominees are Clinton/Obama & McCain!!! GOD HELP US ! ! !

When I think about "C's" self-righteous "Damn right ad nauseum" I can't help but wonder "Would we?"

“Those who act in good faith to defend this country… should not be hassled by lawsuits and trial lawyers,’’ Cheney said.

What an A**! He doesn't understand, or refuses to recognize that those who violate the constitution are destroying the very underpinnings of democracy.

Or maybe he DOES understand it and that is what this whole administration has been about.

Cheney is a lunatice. Everyone knows that. Before you start thinking the Democrats are any better, you should ask them the same question.

GAG BARF IMPEACH INDICT CONVICT

I know more about Britney Spear's little sister's pregnancy than I do about Dick Cheney's hunting skills. Did we lose the freedom of the press before or after Anna Nicole O.d'ed I can't remember?

Cheney, along with Bush, are war criminals who should be in prison awaiting sentencing for war crimes, treason, murder, torture, violations of the U. S. Constitution and violations on International Law.

while commiting treason,killing a million plus innocents in a war of aggression&occupation,undermining our economy and destroying our international reputation,these stinking, lousy,inhumane greedheads have indeed robbed the bank:the u.s. treasury&every american citizen...if there is a god he will smite them

Further proof that Cheney, Bush, Rice, Feith, Wolfowitz, Pearle, Joe-Zell Lieberman, Jeb Bush and Rumsfeld should all be on their way to the business end of the Electric Chair.

The words of a true chicken hawk again and again. He is brave enough to hunt quail with a shot gun. FDR makes the necons look like idiots. Ike and JFK likewise. Good bye and good riddance to the Blivot of
the century.

Cheney needs some professional help. Soon.

Cheney says, with a straight face, that he's proud to stand up for a worthless dry drunk, draft dodging, lying dope fiend! The Preznit! Good God! Who besides the hand full of cool aid drinkers that support these war criminals and war profiteers would say that? What would be even better than these crooks leaving office, will be if they were marched straight into prison for the treason they inflicted on this country

It would not be easy to make a caricature of Dick Cheney. He is already a living, breathing outrageous caricature of a human being.

so he is a nutty person, what else is new????

To hear Dick Cheney complain about those who defend this country in good faith (by participating in warrantless wiretapping and eavesdropping) being hassled by lawyers and courts is laughable. To Cheney, Bush and the gang up there, having to uphold and obey the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is the biggest hassle of all for them.

And how are we "more prosperous" under Bush and company? This economy is balancing on some pretty thin stilts at the moment. Under Clinton, the value of the stock market rose almost 400%; under this Administration it hasn't essentially moved much at all, taking inflation into account.

It's been quite a bitter pill to swallow, putting up with Cheney, Bush et al these seven years. Let's pray (or affirm, or visualize, for you New Agers) that our country -- and the world -- escape further damage over the next year. Holding pattern, please?

These people have almost ruined this country. Never once do you hear of the mistakes they made.By them! It's time they should be forced to pay.And yes,bring on the war trials.

So what makes anyone not think they won't do it all again............"DAMN RIGHT", They got 11 months to "Do it all again".....

We have 11 months of work to Save America from these maniacs..
Don't let your ignorence grow, remember the opera always ends in a dramatic storm.........
The Fat lady better be Freedoms Voice this time!

Invading Iraq was the -worst- thing we could possibly have done if we were seriously seeking a long term victory over Islamic extremism or "Terror".

But it was GREAT for getting votes and it was GREAT for the state of Israel and it was GREAT for Cheney's personal financial gain and it was GREAT for the defense contractors.

Bush and Cheney have served their constituency well. That constituency just doesn't happen to be the People of the United States.

Bush and Cheney belong in prison, and with God's help, they will end their days there.

Wake up America!!! Those were Saudia's flying those planes. We should have waged war with them. But all of this was planned and those bldgs. had EXPLOSIVEs in them, that is why they fell in their footprints. That is why bulding three (that was not hit by a plane fell in it's footprint) THIS WAS PLANNED BY BIG OIL because Hussein's $18.00 a barrel for oil pissed them off.

There is certainly a lot mor evidence that Bush and Cheney knew about the 9/11 plot (you can see it in Bush's sociopathic face in the school room that morning) than there is that FDR had prior knowledge about the attack on Pearl Harbor. But that is almost an article of faith in some circles now.