Huckabee's muzzle control problem: The Swamp
 
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Posted December 27, 2007 12:39 PM
The Swamp

by Jim Tankersley

Republican Mike Huckabee took his presidential campaign for a quick pheasant-hunting expedition in Iowa on Wednesday, and at one point, a reporter asked why he hadn’t invited sporting enthusiast Dick Cheney along. "Because I want to survive all the way through this," Huckabee replied, in a chuckling dig at the vice president’s accidental shooting of a quail-hunting partner last year.

Any good sportsman, though, couldn’t miss a distinctly Cheneyesque moment in the press accounts of the former Arkansas governor’s morning hunt: At one point, Huckabee’s party turned toward a cluster of reporters and cameramen and, when they kicked up a pheasant, fired shotgun blasts over the group’s heads.

This, friends, is dangerously bad hunting form.

Your Swamp correspondent, the son of a longtime hunter education instructor, grew up plying the corn rows and stream banks of rural Oregon with a Labrador retriever and a Mossberg 20-gauge pump shotgun. On our hunts for pheasant, grouse and quail, merely swinging a gun barrel in the general direction of another person was grounds for day-long banishment to the truck (which smelled like wet dog).

Suffice to say, if any of our hunting mates had pulled a stunt like Huckabee’s yesterday, we never would have invited them back. It’s the sort of behavior that drives safety-conscious hunters up the wall, because it reinforces a reckless, gun-totin’ stereotype.

My colleague James Oliphant reports that Huckabee’s party was about 75 yards away from the press corps Wednesday when a pheasant jumped up and flew toward the reporters, drawing several shots. “That was too close,” he reports a cameraman saying.

Perhaps Huckabee missed hunter’s safety classes – Arkansas only requires them for hunters born after 1968 – but the etiquette on this point is clear.

“Never point a firearm at yourself or others,” the International Hunter Education Association declares in its Basic Safety Rules. Later, it adds, “Never point your firearm at something you do not intend to shoot. Make sure you positively identify what you are shooting at and know what lies in front of and beyond it.”

Huckabee emerged happily from his hunt, three dead pheasants in tow, Oliphant reports. Asked for a metaphor to describe the hunt, he replied, "Don't get in my way. This is what happens."

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But "God" is on hucklbees' side. Didn't you see his Christmas message?


Golly gee, Oregon Jim... While you all's goin' back ta yer country roots in runnin' down Huckabee's huntin' as violatin' the "Basic Rules" of hunting,

aren't you violating the "Basic Rules" of balanced journalism with this one-sided hit-piece?

My Daddy was a longtime journalism instructor who always told me to get both sides of a story before reporting it. And never to quote, secondhand, unnamed sources such as "a cameraman". Suffice to say, if I had written the story above, he would have flunked me.

Perhaps you missed journalism classes when you were in college?


Mr. Huckabee, how would Jesus feel about killing God's creatures for pleasure?


The writer of this essay doesn't understand the depth of the anger that has been produced in Americans by the sustained, dishonest, and dishonorable reporting of those members of the media who seek to protect the profits of the obscenely rich at the expense of the average person. Maybe the shotgun episode will wipe the smug expressions off some of their faces.


"Huckabee emerged happily from his hunt, three dead pheasants in tow, Oliphant reports. Asked for a metaphor to describe the hunt, he replied, 'Don't get in my way. This is what happens.'"

Yes folks, this your self dubbed "Christain Candidate". Don't get in his way or you'll be lying on the ground in front him full of buck shot.

And I completely agree with the author, Tankersley, on this one--It's hunters like Huckleberry that give the rest of us a bad name. Is this really the guy you want to represent you?


Lest DNC Swamp readers get conned into believing Mr. Tankersley is some Oregonian Daniel Boone, read some of his elitist articles from the Stanford University newspaper (yes, "red" Stanford) about his summer-long paid sojourn in Paris, France and Oslo, Norway.


"HUCKABEE SPEAKS"

I AM THE ISOLATIONIST THAT HAS RISEN FROM THE ARKANSAS DARKEN DOORS. I AM THE ISOLATIONIST THAT CAN GET ALL EVANGELICALS OFF OF OXYCONTIN. I CAN GET ALL EVANGELICANS TO STOP SLEEPING WITH OTHER MEN. I CAN GET ALL EVANGELICALS TO PASS THAT DAMN PLATE ONE MORE TIME, JUST ONE MORE TIME.

I TOO HEAR THE VOICES, AND IF YOU DON'T LET YOUR WIFE OR DAUGHTER OUT ON ELECTION DAY, I HAVE A CHANCE. I HAVE A CHANCE TO PROVE TO YOU THAT GOD DOESN'T WANT A WOMAN IN THE WHITEHOUSE. I CAN PROVE TO YOU WHY I CAN RULE, I MEAN LEGISLATE, I MEAN, I CAN READ AT LEAST.

NO SEE SPOT RUN, SEE AMERICA RUN IF YOU ELECT ME. JUST 5.00 AND I WILL SEND YOU THE VOICE OF GOD.

VOTE FOR ME, HE SAID UNTO THEE, VOTE FOR ME, HE SAID UNTO THEE!


The Huckster needs to pretend like he's a bigtime hunter because fake acts like this seem to impress the stupid Republicans.

They're the same way with wars, the Rethuglicans love them and always push for them...as long as someone elses family and friends do the actual real fighting.


Terry;,

You were waiting for the stupid Cheney jokes to start.

Who knew it would be Huckabee?


the depth of the anger that has been produced in Americans by the sustained, dishonest, and dishonorable messages should be directed at Mr Bush and the Republican conservatives who created these lies in the first place.


So, RNC Bruce, you're saying that shooting at people is good hunting form?

Are you even stupider than usual? This isn't just Jim Tankersley (a real reporter by the way), it is all over the rest of the media. I suppose it might not be on Faux News, so you may have missed it.


Does Huckleberry have a one-liner ready for the Bhutto assasination?


Great shooting Mr. Huckabee! People will try to say anything to make you look bad. I'm from rural Oregon and heck, I've never had to worry about the press getting in my way when I'm after some birds. And by the way pheasants are not shot just for sport. They taste mighty good, and don't worry, God approves that message!


Golly gee, Oregon Jim... While you all's goin' back ta yer country roots in runnin' down Huckabee's huntin' as violatin' the "Basic Rules" of hunting,

aren't you violating the "Basic Rules" of balanced journalism with this one-sided hit-piece?

My Daddy was a longtime journalism instructor who always told me to get both sides of a story before reporting it. And never to quote, secondhand, unnamed sources such as "a cameraman". Suffice to say, if I had written the story above, he would have flunked me.

Perhaps you missed journalism classes when you were in college?
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I think juanniieed also slept through comprehension class. This is a blog, and nowhere advertised as balanced. Besides, faux noise claims to be balanced, and we all know what a right wing piece of hackery THAT is. The Swamp would be doing the public a disservice to use any word that has been as badly defamed as "balanced" by the mouthpiece of the republipuke party.


Bruce,
How sloppy of you to claim your "daddy" was a journalism professor but fail to provide his name and the institution he "taught" at. You are not to be trusted. Not only do you wrongly claim that Presidential candidates don't deserve Secret Service protection because there has never been any threats to their security, but you also add nothing to the Swamp except attacks on the media. How desperate and pathetic.


"about 75 yards away"
At that range, even if they'd been aiming directly at the reporters, it is extremely unlikely that any of the shot would have hit anyone, and if it did it would have bounced off. Even heavy buckshot through a choked-down barrel probably would not have reached them with enough power to matter, and for pheasant they were likely shooting birdshot.
True, it's not good practice to point any gun in the direction of others even if it's unloaded, but I think your anecdote tells more about the ignorance of your press buddies than any hazardous actions by the hunting party. A BB gun at 10 yards would have been more dangerous.


Jim Tankersley,
You must have been the only journalist there because I haven't come across another story that matches your own. Are you sure it all happened this way?


So, conservative (fiscal and moral) voters are ready to jump on the war bandwagon as long as their families aren't the ones doing the actual fighting? That's such an asinine generalization! I am a supporter of the war effort. I am also a conservative. I also am a vet. We've been the ones doing the fighting. Not only us, but 'we' as a nation. Don't give me this cock and bull story about how Republicans (which I am not) only want to send little Johnny off to war for some political gains. There is more to this than you are willing to admit. Thank God that we're not dependent on the likes of you to defend our National security.


Okay. First of all, notice how it said that he shot above the heads of reporters...reporters!

ROFL
I find this hilarious. Remember, lots of hollywood actors take swings, throw things, and try to run over reporters all the time, yet we still spend our time and money on their so-called talents.

I find this nothing more than humorous at best, and definitely something that the media has blown way out of proportion.


By the way, Paul, if you read the Bible, you would not have posted that remark about killing God's creatures.


"Huckabee emerged happily from his hunt, three dead pheasants in tow, Oliphant reports. Asked for a metaphor to describe the hunt, he replied, "Don't get in my way. This is what happens."

He's been hanging with Chuck Norris too much.

The more I hear about this boob, the more likely it seems he may win the election.

This is like red bloody meat for the right wing.


John E,

Why did you lie and say you were fighting in Iraq awhile back? You're like a kid. You lie and call names, but never offer any facts or reasoned debate. Go cut and paste some other person's work like you normally do.

BiMonSciFiCon


Entertaining article to say the least, but what does being able to shoot a pheasant have to do with the Iraq war, immigration, abortion, taxes, recessions, the housing crisis etc. However fun it is to hack the huck, I would rather hack him on his meager foreign policy experience, his apathy towards illegals, and his tax and spend tendencies. How is his shotgun going to get us out of the housing crisis, stop illegal immigration, lower taxes, and stop foreign outsourcing? And frankly, the "get in my way and I will kill you" mentality doesnt exactly unite parties and solve problems in Washington.


Wow, great analysis bd. So would you be defending Obama or Edwards if he had done the same thing? I suspect not. The point is this: you NEVER aim in the direction of people, nor do you shoot if you don't know your target.

Another case of moral relativism by a Republic. In other words, IOKIFYR.


bruce,

If this was a Dem, brucie's take would be, "If you can't trust him to observe safety precautions while hunting, how can you trust him with the safety of the country?"


Go Huckabee!! Go Ron Paul!!! The only 2 honest grass roots candidates out there!!!


Where in the article does it say that Huckabee shot over the reporter's heads? The way that I read it, it says that his party did. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but is it right to roast the guy without the facts?


These whiney panty wastes need to get over it. They knew the man was on a hunt...

Go Huckabee!!


Why did you lie and say you were fighting in Iraq awhile back? You're like a kid. You lie and call names, but never offer any facts or reasoned debate. Go cut and paste some other person's work like you normally do.
BiMonSciFiCon

Posted by: BiMonSciFiCon | December 27, 2007 5:53 PM

Is that the best you've got toughguy?

HAHAHAHA!!!


My Daddy was a longtime journalism instructor who always told me to get both sides of a story before reporting it. And never to quote, secondhand, unnamed sources such as "a cameraman". Suffice to say, if I had written the story above, he would have flunked me.

Perhaps you missed journalism classes when you were in college?

Posted by: Bruce | December 27, 2007 1:11 PM

Crybaby Bruce, there is no other side to the story. Huckabee is a hunting idiot. This is not the kind of guy I want running our country. Bruce try not crying in your comments a least once. Whiny RNC stooge.


Hickabee threatened to kill Romney or anyone who did not vote for him. That is terroristic threatening and it's a crime. Hickabee is an immoral criminal. He may have thought it was a funny one-liner, I thought it was pathetic. We have serious problems and we need a serious candidate, and his Funny guy act is wearing thin.


The headline on this article should have been: Huckabee Shoots at Reporters: Unfortunately Misses


Not all who claim to know God do. There is a difference between knowing of someone, and actually knowing him personally.

As some of you pointed out in above comments, Mike Huckabee identifies himself as a Christian. How does one discern if his relationship with the Lord Jesus is actually real and personal?

Ask God. Then read the Bible, His inspired Word, and expect Him to reveal answers to you. He will.

As Jesus said, "Stop judging by mere appearances and make a right judgment" (John 7:24). God knows if Huckabee is His chosen person. He'll reveal to your heart if that is who you should vote for.


In the best of all worlds, the mainstream media would be hunted like rabid coyotes. Furthermore, there should be no closed season and no bag limit.


Would Huckabee Stone The Prophets?
I was am active Born Again Christian who converted to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I have friends of integrity who are Born Again Christians. We have played, prayed, and worked together on social issues.

Huckabee, by a clever "slip of the tongue" asked a reporter a question that would wrongly imply in the minds of some people that we worship the devil. Did not the popular sects in Jerusalem also rail that Jesus was of the devil when He threatened their political power base?

Huckabee railed at the "evil" religious terrorists who assassinated a great Pakistani politician. He did not mention that in America Joseph Smith, the first Mormon prophet, was also assassinated when he was running for political office by intolerent religious terrorists. The assassins were never brought to justice.

Most Americans do not realize that many thousands of Mormons lost their lives in part because they were "civil rights activists" who did not believe in slavery and spoke out against it.


It is one thing to swing a gun in the direction of guys that you're hunting with and whose position you are constantly aware of; it is entirely another for the press to be following along in packs, creating a dangerous situation for all involved. Foolishness, and now the press is blaming Huckabee and his hunting party for the press getting in the way.


Where you the only reporter there? Because you seem to have the only story describing this incident.


Huckleberry needs to drop out and support Ron Paul. Huckleberry is not even a conservative. He is a Christian Dem. Heck, Huckleberry won't even speak out against radical feminism.


"
"about 75 yards away"
At that range, even if they'd been aiming directly at the reporters, it is extremely unlikely that any of the shot would have hit anyone, and if it did it would have bounced off. Even heavy buckshot through a choked-down barrel probably would not have reached them with enough power to matter, and for pheasant they were likely shooting birdshot."

I'm sorry, I've killed pheasant at 75 yards away, the pellets penetrated both feathers and skin. You're an idiot. Ever hunted? Ever?


Yeah, this was just a staged "Sister Soulja" moment by the Huckster's campaign. Get it out there that the candidate was firing a shotgun at the press and cameramen, just to elicit some conservative support. It won't work.

Dick Cheney is a great man; I know Dick Cheney; you, sir, are no Dick Cheney...


Glad he's finally shown his true colors... though to be fair, what presidential candidate did not have the same attitude? Carter?


Huckabee used to love eating squirrel, fried up in a popcorn popper. Google it and see. He isn't helping his image with stories like that.


Let's just say what everybody is really thinking/hoping...dang, he missed those reporters!

Journalism at its very worst and frankly their contribution to the world would not be missed in the slightest.


WOW, TALK ABOUT BEING BIASED, HOW BOUT YOU GUYS STOP READING FROM THE HUFFINGTON POST AND GET A MIND OF YOUR OWN. ITS PITIFUL TO SEE PEOPLE USING FLAWED LOGIC AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. I JUST WISH YOU HAD TO PASS AN IQ TEST BEFORE YOU VOTED, THAT WOULD MAKE SURE MY VOTE WOULDN'T BE CANCELED OUT BY ONE OF YOU.


Darn,he missed.


I love it! Those were LIBERAL
reporters (96% are per own admission)
Do it again!!! :):):)


Too bad he didn't hit any. Would have taken care of two problems, the reporters and him.


why don't the stupid press just stay away while people are hunting...then they won't be in any danger...if I had been there, the shot would have been alot closer to their heads


I doubt very seriously that the true facts of this event were told by this reporter. At what angle above the ground was he shooting? Did he shoot directly over their heads or at a slight offset. As was noted by another respondent, at 75 yards, the reporters were in no real danger from a shotgun blast and it is doubtful that he actually ever pointed the gun directly at them anyway.


I wasn't planning on voting for or supporting Huckabee. But after reading about him shooting at reporters, I might have to reconsider.


At least he didn't ask, "Is this where I can get me a huntin' license".

Wes S


Never aim your gun at something you do not intend to shoot. What did Huckabee do wrong?


I think Huckabee should have aimed lower.


I do agree with the OP.Huckabee exhibited extreamly poor hunting practices.As Governor of Arkansas he exhibited extreamly poor Administrative practices.I'm surprised, considering his liberal actions there, that he isn't running on the Democratic ticket.


This article is baised and should not be considered journalistic. Every attempt was made to make this candidate appear unfit. Strictly one-sided.


You guys are funnier than the story.


I think Huckabee should have aimed lower.


Let's put this in perspective: does this matter AT ALL for someone running for President? No.

At least Huckabee's willing to take questions, unlike Queen Hillary.


I am sure someone got this on film????


It's ashame that Mr. Huckabee couldn't enjoy a hunting trip without a bunch of wimps following behind shoving a camera in his face. Too bad his aim wasn't slightly lower, the only thing better than a dead liberal media asshole would be a dead lawyer. You fuck heads will write anything to get in the spotlight.


He Missed?


Doesn't Huckabee realize that the reporters really aren't larger-than-life?


some observations...
Huckabee went hunting
the press went too but not to hunt
no one was hurt
Huckabee killed a bird
[God showed Peter all the animals of the earth and said, "Kill and eat" Acts 10:13]
Huckabee made a joke
"Much to do about nothing"


I find it comical when liberals make claims that conservatives are war hawks but won't actually fight. Guess which way the majority of military folks lean politically?

Let me see-- which candidate tried to prevent the overseas military ballots from being counted during the W v Gore election? Military folks overwhelmingly vote conservative.


If you think Huckabee is a klutz at hunting, wait until you see him as president. Sheesh, he's even a faux redneck. He really is a lot like Clinton -- he'll bullsh!t you and you know he's bullsh!tting you and he knows you know he's bullsh!tting you and you're supposed to see something admirable in that. Trouble is, a lot of people DO see something admirable in that. Whatever it is, it sure is not consistent with the teachings of Jesus.


yeah...this guys' a moron....he's desperate to follow in Bush's footsteps. put the gun DOWN!!!!


Comment made by BD Shepherd is the only one near the mark in this entire thread. 75 yards with bird shot would bounce off even exposed skin. I love it when idiots from the city who don't even know which end of a gun is the business end try to make their prowess known when it comes to hunting much less firearms. Anybody ask these roving reporters what they were doing in a field during a pheasant hunt? Here's a clue...wait at the truck next time and ask your stupid questions when the hunt is over.


Dick got in trouble for a accident Bill Cliton shot Monica in the face and he is the greatest President of all times!


Jim Tankersly obviously isnt pro-Huckabee...surprise surprise another reporter shows his bias...gee I wonder why circulation numbers are down. Hey didnt Jim quote hunting rules as saying only point your gun at what your shooting? Seems to me they shot the pheasant and not one reporter (how sad)...so doesnt that mean they were pointing their weapons at the pheasant? Hmmmm.


Let me preface this by saying I am not a Huckabee fan, but I am a life-long hunter 47 years old.

The author is quick to take the word of a man who reported the account of a camerman about the incident, even though I've seen no other press reports of it occurring. I think we'd have seen a lot of stories if he'd actually fired over a mass of reporters' heads. Reporting third hand, with no verifying witnesses, is bad journalism.

I've hunted pheasants for 20 years, and if they kicked up a pheasant and it flew toward the reporters, and the reporters were 75 yards away, the pheasant would have been flying at such a low angle to the hunters by that time, probably in its landing glide, that the shot would almost surely have hit the reporters.

It sounds like a bunch of bologna reported by people looking for a Cheneyesque story, not an actual occurrence.


Right, John E., just like John, "Can I get me a hunt'n license here" Kerry did back in the 04 campaign. That really helped him didn't it. And about Paul's comment about "killing God's creatures", you don't know if he ended up eating the pheasants or not.


Reporters are people...so they don't count. Moreover, they shouldn't be walking in to a field where someone is hunting. And, from what I heard, they were hundreds of yards away. So, the greatest danger to them was a light sprinkling of birdshot. Get a life people. I know an evangelical scares the Bejesus out of you. However, your criticism should, at least, be factual.


Were the reporters using any "bad form" by following a guy out on a morning hunt and then hounding him with questions? Are you sure the cameraman wasn't a cameragirl? I would give anything to see a photo of this incident.

Jimmy Jimster if this is all you have to write about your employer needs to re-access your worth.


Paul, the Bible mentions Hunting several times and none of them are negative. It also says that God created creatures to provide us with food! Thats right some animals were meant to be eaten. like Pheasant!!!!
Try reading it sometime. It's not all Bad. That whole 10 commandments thing, the Golden Rule, etc. they're not bad things you know.

Also the reporters are stupid to be following hunters to close. I took Hunters safety and it also says not to disturb hunters. But I guess you didn't take the Poperazzi etiquette certification either now did you?


I'm not a Huck Supporter but...
Too Bad He didn't hit one of the vermin press! Stupid idiots running all over the place with cameras getting in the way of people hunting.

Dishonest Hacks and Propogandist deserve a little buckshot..


This article presents a formable problem: when the pheasants jumped up between him and the press, he had a choice to miss the shot or act and endure criticism - landing the birds amidst howls of Washington-based journalists that he may have breached hunting etiquette. There are times when difficult choices must made, such as in foreign policy or for a flat tax and, well, some perceived wrongs may be accrued. If no-one is picking buckshot, then I think Mr. Huckabee ought to invite 'em over for dinner and call it square.

James Carlson
Garden City, Kansas


Simply put, a hunting trip is not the place for reporters (invited or not).


Bruce is obviously right. The other side of the story is the reporters deserved to be shot at.


The reporter is full of birdshOt.
It is bad form to shoot "AT" but not, I said "NOT" bad form to shoot OVER when bird hunting. Half the reason for wearing a wide brim hat is to catch the rain of tiny little spent pellets. This reporter has obviously never been dove hunting!!! OR he was just looking for anything to be critical of instead of doing his job?????


You guys are just a bunch of Huckle haters


So he shot over your heads? Why does the liberal media have to find these meaningless issues and report them as if they were major news?

When the media starts reporting major news...like a sitting president being accused of rape...rather than someone shooting a shotgun on a hunting trip...then maybe we can start respecting the media again. Until then, the liberal media will be seen as nothing more than lapdogs for the the liberal left.


Weren't there any photographers there or any video shot? Not saying it didn't happen (as there may not have been cameras allowed), but I'd really like to see video or photos if they are available. It also seems like more than one 'journalist' would have reported this. Then again, I guess "dead pheasant' could be a metaphor for a journalist? Hmmm... Am i on to something here or what? Has anyone seen Dan Rather for a while?


Reporters do not classify as people, they are a life-form that is lower than animals and they should be shoot at by anyone with a gun, preferably automatic.


Go Huck! Perhaps ridding the world of a vew reporting vermin would do a great service to society. Just make sure it's an accident.


Huck would be better off spending some time in front of a map to figure out where Pakistan is rather than pander to the hunter vote in Iowa. I'm beginning to notice that the Huck huggers would excuse anything this clown did,even taking money from churches to pay his mortgage.


I guess I would like to see a carefully drawn, accurate map before I got my panties in a wad about this purported transgression of shooting safety. "Shooting over reporters heads" leaves a lot unclear. I went duck hunting this past Saturday morning. My partner, behind me, shot at ducks that were in front of me and above me, so "over my head." I was in front of his gun muzzle, if you trace a hemisphere at the end of his barrel. If you instead consider a line of fire 30 degrees on either side of his barrel, I was out of the line of his fire. This "over reporters's heads" statement leaves much detail to be specified before I get excited.

Watching Huckabee down the pheasant, there was no doubt in my mind that he was an experienced, bonafide hunter, comments above notwithstanding.

Of course, this is somewhat removed from some of the political issues. Still, avid hunters and shooters feel somewhat more comfortable with a hunter such as Huckabee than with Hillary, Obama, or Edwards, for obvious reasons related to their gun control pedigrees.


It is a shame the party missed the press. There might have been a "real" story there. What a waste of waste of time.


Bruce,

Your daddy should have told you that there's no need for balanced journalism within a particular story. If you say the sky is green and I write about it, fair journalism rules don't require me to explore the merits of your argument. The right wing of this country seems to believe that "fair, balanced" reporting extends to giving a defense of half baked, bigoted ideas. Here's a wake up call, moron: that's not the way things work. Even your daddy would agree.


I think it's scary to imagine that any of the people posting above are registered voters.


what were the reporters and cameramen thinking about when they placed themselves in front of the hunting party, common sense dictates positioning yourself to the rear of the hunting party.


i think it would be a much more entertaining story if the author would have had to post it from an ER as they pulled buckshot from his backside


what were the reporters and cameramen thinking about when they placed themselves in front of the hunting party, common sense dictates positioning yourself to the rear of the hunting party.


I'm not sure what the story is here. He shot over reporters heads. No human was in any danger at any time.


"Asked for a metaphor to describe the hunt, he replied, "Don't get in my way. This is what happens.""

Mike Huckabee as Tony Soprano?

Bleeeh....

Ray Robison is the author of Both In One Trench: Saddam's Secret Terror Document

http://www.bothinonetrench.com


But your missing one thing Reporters ain't human ;)


I do realize that most of you who are leaving comments are wacko, anti-Christian liberals and that is why you are degrading Mike Huckabee. However, if you're a Christian conservative like myself, then you realize he's the best man to be president of this country. He may not be the best shot with a gun but that's not going to matter in his role as our president. As far as him being a Christian, that's wonderful. The reason we have a blessed and free America is because of our first Christian leaders, such as George Washington. The day that we turn away Chritianity and Christian leadership in our country will be the day we fall! I say, "God bless Mike Huckabee and may he be the next president of this wonderful U.S.A.!"


This is just another example of ridiculous characterizing of political candidates by the media. Wether it be FOX or CBS the media always finds a way to bring up an irrelevant issue. My question is who is reading this article saying "Oh my, how horrible I would have voted for him before, but now... gee, I just don't know."

The answer is no one! So stop all this silly one sidedness and let it go.

How about a reporter gives up some real useful information once in awhile.


The truth is in the truth - did he shoot directly at the birds directly over the heads of the reporters or is this another story that portrays the conservative republican in a bad light by using words to give the image of poor judgement by Huckabee. I imagine Huckabee shot over their heads but not directly over their heads - any shot up in the air is technically over their heads. Another fabrication showing the media bias against Huckabe as well as other conservatives.


The anti-Christian bigots posting here are pathetic examples of supposed enlightened "progressives". Keep in mind these are the liars who claim to be "compassionate", "understanding", "non-partisan", "willing to compromise" all in the interest in world peace.

World peace? They can't even be at peace with their own countrymen who dare think differently than they! Just look at the bile and venom they've vented the last six years toward a Republican President who has had to make some very difficult decisions regarding the very real War on Terror. While villifying President Bush these partisan hacks have yet to find an Islamic thugocrat or socialist dictator that they haven't defended in some manner ... IT'S ALL AMERICA'S/BU$Hitler's/REPUBLICANS FAULT they impotently whine!

Instead the liberal hatemongers like many here have only proven themselves to be supposed lovers of humanity yet haters of people who won't bow their knee to the corrosive ideology of liberalism. Their responses here are far more telling than the event they are commenting on in their headlong pursuit of the politics of personal destruction.

And here these lifelong moral relativist believe themselves to be the very Oracles of Delphi having found the ABSOLUTE TRUTH about those they hypocritically hate in the name of liberal politics. God save this nation if real power ever falls into the hands of these left-wing haters suffering from anti-Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Phsicians, heal thyself.


Remember, an "armed" society is a "polite" society....


That guy should be happy he wasn't hunting "Oliphants"!

That's funny!


Consider it a warning shot for all those reporters thinking about not voting for Huck, as if Norris wasn't enough.

xD

Okay I am just fooling around, I love Huckabee and will most certainly be voting for him, morbid humor and all.


Tankersly...Go back to your liberal state and hide under your bed.

Worthless reporter.


My only regret is that Huckabee aimed too high.


Maybe it's Oregon Jim that should have been waiting in the truck!and not getting in the way of a good hunt.


I'm no huck fan but i'd shoot a reporter if i had the chance...oooops


I specifically like how the real story has been lost here: Hunting party goes out. Group of reporters follow in their usual obnoxious manner. Gunshots fired (becasue that's what hunters do). Reporters complain about proximity of the hunter's aim toward them. Story is published focusing on the gun toting sterotype. What is this article really about? The irresponsible actions of the reporters following the hunting party? Is this a sideways attack on the right to bear arms? Fact of the matter is, the hunting ground is not the right place for an interview, i.e. reporters. If a reporter does choose to tag along with a hunting party, then they shouldn't be surprised that standing 75 yards away from the guys with guns could lead to unfavorable circumstances...unless of course, that's the whole point of going to begin with...to skirt the edge of reason and put your own life at risk to stage a setting that can be slanted for slander. For who's gain? This would fit the billet for the sensationalistic left wing media antics. Not unlike the enemy who try to brainwash their populus into joining their evil "Jihad" with similar slanted antics. Those who side with this kind of article's views ought to check their premise.


What does Huckabee's duck hunting have to do with the state of the union? Report something which is noteworthy. If one doesn't have good hunter safety does it equate to being a bad president? No it just means he never took the time or had the time to do so. Or perhaps he should never go hunting to be on the safe side----but it doesn't mean he is any less qualified for the job. As i said before report on something which is relative to the condition of our country.


No where in Mr. Tankersly's article does it say that Mike Huckabee shot over the press's heads. Only that his party did. Is Mike Huckabee responsible for every move every person in his party does? Mr. Tankersly's article is obviously biased against Mr.Huckabee. I haven't made a decision on who I'm supporting but I certainly won't vote for any candidate that won't place his hand over his heart and repeat our country pledge of allegiance.


Where I come from it's "dangerously bad hunting form" for the press to follow you out hunting. (Not a Huckabee fan.)


Not only did he shoot over the heads of reporters, but if you look closely at the three birds his group shot, one looks like a hen instead of a rooster. The one picture of the bird in flight as they shoot is clearly a hen. Shooting hens is illegal in Iowa. Check out the the pictures on the Des Moines Register website and see www.intothevortex.net


Having not seen the incident in question, I do not know if he acted in a careless manner. I do know that people unfamiliar with firearms have a real tendency to over react and unintentionally embellish a situation.

That being said, I see this trip afield the same as Kerry tried! Sportsmen and gun owners are not impressed or swayed by these acts and most times it causes a loss in support from them.


You should NEVER point your gun in the direction of another person. Ground varmits like rodents, possums, snakes and reporters, however, is quite accetable.

In all seriousness, though, he should have his hunting license pulled immediately and he should be reprimanded. If the state has an applicable law, he should be charged.


Wait, I thought the pen was mightier than the sword. Why is the liberal media whining about getting in the way of Huckabee's hunt? You libs ought to appreciate this, maybe this is a metaphor of Republicans always having to deal with a biased press. It captures "the war" which exists between the liberal media (read the UCLA December 2004 report "A Measure of Media Bias" at http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm) and anyone who isn't a flaming, hatemongering liberal. Just remember how the lamestream media and the radical liberals treated Democrat Joe Lieberman.


Darn, I kind of like the way he scares the s**t out of all of these liberals. Too bad he missed. I might consider changing my mind if we find out the lib journalist soiled his pants.

BTW, bdsheperd is right and anybody that's ever bird unted knows it.


This stuff really brings out the goofball comments. What would Jesus say? He'd say what the Bible said about giving man DOMINION over all beasts. Pheasants (you peasants)is FOOD. You guys REALLY need to get a sense of humor. What would he say about Bhutto's assasination? How about "WHO'S SARI NOW?" (dumb question, dumb answer). These pols are all racketeers, get over it and stop thinking things will change. Your vote is worthless, it's all been pre-decided by the Elite Moneyed Class.


Looks like reporters were trying to manufacture their own Cheneyesque moment. Bottom line is the reporters had no business there unless they had a shotgun in hand and were a part of the hunt.


This election is awful. Can a person of the ridiculous opinion the world was created 6000 years ago be a world leader? What makes hucawannabe any better than Musharraf? God dont do politics. Its a myth, get it. Our father in heaven is a myth. To bad Huckawannabe is not a myth.


Foolish on Huck's part? Yes. Hit piece by a journalist? Definitely!

With the lackluster performance in Washington D.C., 'We the People' had better smarten up and choose candidates who will do the People's work not the party's work. This nation is at risk if we do not make that choice.


Sounds like Huckabee needed to be hunting where people wouldn't follow him around. He shouldn't have shot towards others however, a few less stupid reporters who like to follow men with guns and make wisecracks may be good.


I know republican candidates are generally subjected to more scrutiny by the left wing media than their democratic counterparts. But by delivering this one-sided diatribe on Huckabee's hunting etiquette, of all things, the chicago tribune seems to have taken it to a whole new level. Surely there must be more substantive issues to report on?


I am a Republican who doesn't like the Huckster, but as far as firing over someone, it isn't the same as firing toward them. This fella is trying to make an issue over nothing. Hunting is one of the safest sports there is.


Hell, the only thing he did wrong was miss the scummy swarm of reporter pests.


I'm from AR. He is slick,never met a gift he didn't like and thin-skinned. Tomato Soup made with a McDonalds ketchup packet and luke warm water. Better at BS than BC!


If Huckabee invited the press to use the hunt as a photoshoot, this is a valid article. If the press was tagging along because they wanted to be the annoying parasites they are, by nature, they had no business being there when someone was hunting. Huckabee should watch where he shoots, however, it is hard to have a legit hunt when you have a bunch of idiots following you around with cameras scaring the hunted away.


.....shot OVER THEIR HEADS you high school mush heads. Not AT THEM. Very simple. And it happens all the time when you hunt.


I think the point is "recklessness." Seems Mr. Huckabee's hunting practices are about the same as his fiscal and foreign policy practices.

Oh, but that's OK..."God" is on his side. Riiiiiiiight.


Huckubee is the kind of Republican that gives the good ones a bad name. Vote RON PAUL!


Yeah, did the hunter safety thing myself, and this would not have gone over well with ANY hunting party I've been on.

Maybe Huckabee should stick to golf. At least he'd be required to give a warning when he takes a crack at innocent bystanders.

On the other hand, pheasants have been in short supply where I used to hunt, so I do envy the man the good food.

In any event, Ron Paul in '08!


Shooting at reporters is never bad form...


You suck!


I think we can all agree that a few dead journalists is a good start on the road to fixing what is truly wrong with America. I think its a shame that Huckabee missed them.


A metaphor to desribe the "Hunt", not life, meaning if a game bird crosses his path he will get it. He did not say that he deals with people the same way. If you are not one of the hunters, you have no business being afield, were they all wearing orange?


I am a Republican.

I am not stupid.

I would never vote for Huckabee.

So stop with the name calling and generalizations already.

An addition to Jessi's comment to Paul: Paul, if you read the Bible you would learn that Jesus caused a fig tree to wither for reasons I'm not going to give away. Go find it and actually read it.


Too bad he didn't hit one of the liberal SOBs


Please, not another bible-thumpin' hick in the White House! The more you read about this slick preacher, the more you realize how dangerous he is (with gun or without). We can forgive his obvious hunger for graft (see every article in Arkansas over the past 3 years), but this country needs a smart candidate in this election. Mr. Huckleberry lays no claim to smarts, clearly.


What an a**hole.


For the idiot - democrat - Who stated that republicans like wars. WW2 - Roosevelt (D). Korea - Truman (D). VietNam - Kennedy/Johnson (D).

What a MORON!!!!


Is Anyone Else Getting Tired of Politicians Going Hunting to Prove They Support Gun Owners

I have hunted safely several times over the years (always think muzzle Gov. Huckabee). I personally always preferred the steak dinners, cigar smoking, whisky drinking and card playing at night vs. the shooting during the day. But why do people that don’t know how to use firearms always think it’s necessary to look tough with guns (remember John Kerry walking around with his finger inside the trigger guard). At least Ron Paul doesn’t feel the need to look like such a dumb ass. Just a 30+ year record of defending the entire Constitution.


I was wondering why the media was tagging along with someone out enjoying a wonderful sport. Maybe they thought it was the PGA tour. Did they offer to carry his birds? Did they offer to carry the shot gun shells? It seems that they were looking for a story... (a reporter asked why he hadn’t invited sporting enthusiast Dick Cheney along.) I believe they got the story they were looking for. Its amazing that the media likes to make the stories instead of reporting them.


Pastor Huckabee is a modern-day Jed Clampett. And with a little more sloppy shooting, he might even find an oil field and solve the energy crisis.


A lot of you folks have too much time on you hands. You really need to get a life and stop trying to read too much in to this "News" piece. I never cease to be amazed that so many of us try to make something political out of nothing.


This just in, an urgent message to Paul: God's word on hunting God's animals...


http://bible.cc/acts/11-7.htm


I guess it's now a popular campaign tactic to bring reporters out on a hunt. If he's elected he'll probably team up with Schumer to disarm everyone.


(Assuming this incident even happened) those reporters need to STAY OUT OF THE WAY!


I know, it's an observation, not a comment, but we hold certain truths to be self-evident. Seriously, what an a**hole.


For the guy who thinks Republicans like wars as long as someone else fights them. I am a life-long Republican who served 11 years in the US Navy. I was in Beirut twice, the Persian Gulf (anyone else remember the USS Stark) and participated in the bombing of Lybia. There were other events, which I missed, such as the invasion of Grenada, etc. You can argue the rightness or wrongness of our actions, but I can only remember one Democrat in all of the four ships and one shore station I was on. Republicans may like war - but we are willing to fight them as well.


Clearly Huckabee's poor form was due to global warming. Were it not for this Bush-induced global calamity, Huckabee would've hit his intended target, that is said reporter.


bdshepherd - You wrote: " Even heavy buckshot ... would not have reached them with enough power to matter."

You are a dagerous thinking individual:

-- #000 buck is 0.36” and weighs 70 grains. http://www.starsandstripesammo.com/education/about_buckshot.pdf

-- At 75 yards a 00 buck pellet is only traveling at about 830 f/s and has only about 85 ft lb of kinetic energy. http://www.frfrogspad.com/shotgun.htm

-- My 60 grain Aquila SSS will penetrate a 2x4 and fully embed itself in the one just behind it at 800 ft per second.

I shoot trap at 75yrs on some long shots, and the #8 shot certainly does not bounce off them. You are welcome to go downrange and tell me what it feels like!


It is ironic to see multiple posts referring to hunting as something that impresses Republicans and going hunting is just a stunt. WOW...does anyone remember how the press and the left fawned over Kerry when he went on his fake goose hunt? Or how the press ooed and aahhd when Gore and his family had their "impromptu" ala JFK touch football game? Even if it was a hunting stunt...who cares!? Concern yourself with issues and items that actually matter.


Paul....Since you are apparently NOT one of God's creatures.....maybe a couple of shots in your direction would be appropriate.


keep it up Huckabee keep shooting the bastards


Maybe he meant to aim lower! How the hell would you like to hunt with a party of cameras, and dumbasses? Maybe they should stay in their cars until the hunt is over then ask questions.
And for you Paul, this is exactly God put his creatures here, so he could provide food for us. You want to eat hay, then bray.


Stay tuned for more to come from "Gomer Pyle" - - - I'm an independent - - former CONSERVATIVE Republican.

Gomer is not conservative (as Bush lead everyone to believe and now has been proven to be anything but). He has facilitated illegal immigration into Arkansas (I live in Oklahoma and can attest to the illegal multitudes) and is in the corporate pocket of Wal Mart and Tyson.


Nope, their isn't any political bias in this column. Right! I hunted game all through my early years in rural Alabama, my friend. Why don't you tell some of these city folks, who don't know any better, the truth? With any kind of bird hunting: quail, dove, duck, goose, etc, you are going to ocassionally be firing above people's heads. As long as your aim is 30 degrees or more above the horizon and the other hunters are 25 feet or more away, there is virtually no danger. If you want something dangerous try deer hunting with a high powered rifle firing parallel to the ground or members of the news media who don't know squat about guns or hunting endangering themselves by their blundering presence on a hunt.

I see people just can't wait to take a dig at Huckabee's faith and values. Those values obviously rub these critics the wrong way. I wonder why? In response to what would Jesus say about Huckabee killing game animals, if he plans on eating them, I imagine Jesus would say "enjoy". After all, if you knew the Bible, then you'd be aware that Jesus ate fish and lamb. He even prepared a breakfast of fish for his disciples on the shores of Gallilee after his resurrection and advised the disciples on where to drop their nets to catch them. Am I wrong to assume that he slew the fish before he cooked them? Give me a break!


I am a long time hunter and the reporter should know that you stay to the side and behind those in the field with the firearms. Not in front of them! And if Huckabee shot too close to the reporters some of them must have been peppered. A shotgun patttern spreads out wider and wider as the distance increases. Sounds like your reporter doesn't know much about hunting to me.


I'm waiting for Hillary to get out and shoot some birds in front of the press. Oh what am I thinking? She wants to make gun ownership illegal and ban all forms of hunting. Peppering reporters who get to close to the hunt with shot is good for ratings. Too bad one of them actually didn't get peppered. Reporters like these ones deserve to get sprayed with shot.


Found this site through Drudge, which continues its anti-Huckabee tantrum. I don't know much about hunting, and I personally detest the "sport", but even my gradeschool children understand the difference between pointing a gun "at" someone and pointing it at an object in the air. Moreover, as has already been noted, the opinion of "a cameraman" that Huckabee's shot was "too close" is hardly dispositive. Further, this apparent layperson's observation was purportedly relayed to the writer of this story via another third-party, reporter James Oliphant. So we have an unnamed cameraman wetting his pants about the "closeness" of Mr. Huckabee's shot, complaining of said wetness to Mr. Oliphant, who in turn relayed the story to Mr. Tankersley. Do either the unnamed reporter or Mr. Oliphant have a background in "hunter education" or any experience in the field? If not, on what basis should we accept their contention that Huckabee took a shot "in their general direction" which was "too close"? Mr. Tankersley doesn't say, and apparently did not undertake independent assessment of his own; instead, he took a complaint of the type my spouse might have made (i.e, "you're following too close to that car...)and turned it into evidence of "recklessness." Sorry, but the only "reckless" shot to be found in this story is the story itself - just more desperate calumny clearly intended to drive down Huckabee's numbers. (BTW, if you've arrived here via Drudge, and are a regular reader of his site, you've surely observed that he is but a cog in the pro-Romney machine...)


Balanced journalism? He shot toward reporters! I don't give a damn who you're supporting, THAT'S STUPID!


So he missed then?


John E said:
"The Huckster needs to pretend like he's a bigtime hunter because fake acts like this seem to impress the stupid Republicans."

Yeah, we all remember how impressed the stupid Republicans were with John Kerry playing Elmer Fudd. Didn't he lose?


Sorry gang but it's all politics as usual the Dem's vs the Rep's. By the way I am a convert to the Republican party and have a son who is a marine currently serving in Iraq. An infantry Marine with a 4 year college degree. Typical democrat tactics to blame "rich Republicans sending our poor underpriviledged to fight wars as some type of game". It's all hype, my son is a patriot serving his country with fellow americans: black, white, catholic, protestant, athesist. It's so sad to see people who lie and misrepresent the truth for thier own political ideology.


Huckabee is a phony. All he does is pander pander pander. The guy's not a hunter, he didn't even know how to work the safety. He panders to Christians too, but I think he is the money changer in the temple - using other people's religion to advance his own agenda. I am voting for Ron Paul - he sticks to the issues. And the number one issue for any American should be liberty.


Three pheasants, huh? And no reporters hit?

Guy's a pretty good shot. Maybe Bush can't tag bin Laden, but when Gov. Huckabee centers the reticle on UBL, the turban-headed guys will be scraping up pieces -- right after they've tucked their robes between their legs and hauled Muslim butt. Reporters: You need to stay out of the line of fire, kiddies.


Gun rights has nothing to do with HUNTING. It has to do with protecting yourself, your family and your property. I always laugh when I see these stupid politicians with hunting hats on trying to score points with the NRA or trying to look like "real men". Even if a person doesn't hunt or carry a gun, THAT IS NOT THE POINT and it shows Huckabee's lack of understanding about the entire issue. It is a person's right to own a gun for protection.


I'm no Huckster fan (I favor Romney), however, hunting is not a spectator sport. If Oregon Jim wants to avoid getting accidentally shot, he should refrain from his Paparazzi tactics in shadowing a group of well-armed hunters. I am a hunter too Oregon Jim, I've not ever had to encounter and worry about
the whereabouts of the Paparozzi whores during any of my outings.

Steve Sunde
Papillion, Nebraska


"Huckabeebee baby, baby...Huckabeebee baby, baby..."Huck...just some beebees, Hunt with a beebee...
Pheasant at the treeline, pheasant clump, media is closing in, they better jump...Not too many beebees at 'senty fi yards' / Could make it to their notepads, blow the video cards...But he said "Huck"....(leberry hound now)// Huck....(leberry Finn now)

Huckabeebee baby, ...baby, huchabeebee baby,... baby,

apologies to mitch rider


The reporter, Tankersley, attempts to misdirect the reader. Here are the salient points
of the story...

"hunting mates"
"huckabee's party kicked up a pheasant"
"drawing several shots"
"cameraman saying, That was too close"

There is absolutely no indication Huckabee, himself, even fired a shot.

I'm no Huckabee man, but this story is grasping at straws to discredit Huckabee.


Wow...there sure are a lot of liberals here! You sing praises when a woman murders her unborn baby, but throw stones when a HUNTER that is HUNTING shoots at birds! Did he hit any person? No!

The author here is a buffon, just like the rest of you bleeding heart, spineless libs!


How do we know this was not intentional? Firearm. Reporters. Blam.


Bird-shot from 75 yards away? I think you'll live. Sounds like someone trying to drum up a (non) story with the scaredies. Quit whining.


Huckabee is no better than a street thug when he threatens to shoot to death those who oppose him just as he did to those defenseless pheasants; he is anti-life; but Ron Paul is pro-life:VOTE Ron Paul 08!


Notice that Tankersley says the shotguns were pointed "toward," not "at" the reporters. Toward can mean anything up to 90 degrees, when he would have to say the guns were pointed away from them. I'm not a Huckabee supporter, but this is clearly biased reporting.


How can a candidate argue for responsible gun ownership, while he is willing to break the cardinal rule of shooting? This incident demonstrates Huckabee as a phony hunter (and maybe a little bit of a jerk, too).


At least we know he's qualified for VP...


What are the dates for the lawyer/reporter season in Iowa?


Nothing says praise jesus like blowing the crap out of a small defenseless animal with an enormous frigging shot gun. Idiot.


After reading Oliphant's actual description firsthand, I understand. Oliphant called the shot "buckshot", which tells me he has never once in his life held a shotgun in his hand. Buckshot isn't used to hunt pheasants. Buckshot is a specific class of shot, much larger than the birdshot used to hunt birds. Oliphant also uses the phrase "the hunter in the group" of reporters, telling me that most of them wouldn't know the safe range for taking a shot with a 12 guage firing number 6 shot. It all sounds to me like a bunch of city boys on a dirt road in Iowa who have no clue what is going on, what is safe or unsafe, and every gunshot makes them duck and cringe.


"My colleague James Oliphant reports that Huckabee’s party was about 75 yards away from the press corps Wednesday when a pheasant jumped up and flew toward the reporters, drawing several shots."

It's funny how Huckabee is singled out as the only person to fire at those pheasants, when in fact several gun-toting fellows took shots.


Jim,

C,mon man...when was the last time you went hunting and had a hord of reporters following you around. 75 yards away. You should know that at that distance, the worst thing that can happen is you have a few bb's rain down on you. There are reporters traveling with the troops in Iraq that have to worry about bullets, bombs, ect...and you are dissing this guy because he shot over the heads of a few reporters that got assigned the crap assignment. I say it comes with the territory.


Well Jim,

I'll bet you never went out hunting and had packs of reporters (most all of which who have never seen a gun, let along gone hunting) out there walking around and getting in the way. Probably emerging from bushes and trying to get in front of the guys to get good pictures. Unlike Kerry and his biking or hockey, I'll bet Huckabee actually wanted to get some hunting done instead of just a nice photo op


Huckabee is nothing more than Bush III - a big spending 'compassionate' conservative not afraid to throw a gun around. I have too much faith in Republicans to believe they will fall for that act twice in a row.


If he were smart, he would have fired AT the reporters heads.

If a reporter gets his head blown off is he really any dumber? How can you tell?


reporters? I would have handed him a 30-06 and told him to aim lower


Paul Asked- Mr. Huckabee, how would Jesus feel about killing God's creatures for pleasure?
Well Paul, if you knew the Bible, you would know it states the all Gods creatures were put on this Earth to serve man.


Where have u gone Pat Paulson ?


So Cheney shoots a lawyer when he is hunting, and Huckabee shoots at Journalists, I fail to see what the problem is.


all the politics aside, yes they should have been more careful. BUT would a group of reporters be surprised if the ball was thrown over their head if sitting in the middle of a football field during a game?... leave the guy alone. why did the press feel a need to sit there and document his pheasant hunt in the first place? i would go insane if i was trying to enjoy an afternoon hunt and was surrounded by press.


...hummm...I was always instructed to aim at what I wanted to kill...


Why are reporters so stupid as to stand between a hunter and his game?


Who fired the shotguns? No one was identified as shooting.


What a stupid piece of writing. Fist it says the group fired a few shots over their heads, it does not say Huckabee did, Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Next Like someone else already stated, 75 yards is not close when using bird shot. Where I duck hunt it is very common to have people 50 yards or so away. You don’t shoot at them you shoot at the ducks that are flying high above them.

This is someone trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill and the person who wrote it was not even there, soooooooo, gee can we say second or third hand info here?


The lack of common sense is not on the part of the hunter, it is on the part of those who follow a hunting party along and are suprised when these things happen. I guess if you followed a quarterback onton the field and he ran over you on a left roll out for a screen pass, you would "banish" them to the sidelines (which smells like hard work and dedication)?

Foolish.


Too bad he didnt actually wound a few of these lying, corrupt, left wing media types.


Republican's love wars? Lets look at history...
WWI: Wilson-Democrat, led to...
WWII: Roosevelt, Democrat, led to...
Korea: Truman, Democrat. Led to...
Viet Nam: Kennedy, then Johnson- Democrats. It took a Republican president to end it. The dems had no stomach for it.


What a stupid piece of writing. Fist it says the group fired a few shots over their heads, it does not say Huckabee did, Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Next Like someone else already stated, 75 yards is not close when using bird shot. Where I duck hunt it is very common to have people 50 yards or so away. You don’t shoot at them you shoot at the ducks that are flying high above them.

This is someone trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill and the person who wrote it was not even there, soooooooo, gee can we say second or third hand info here?


The only thing wrong with what Huckabee did is , he aimed a little to high.


What a hit job. One sided left wing hatchet journalism. Why were the punk journalists out while he was hunting anyways? Couldn’t wait till he was done. The lib comments are funny go figure, from Illinois where the demonCrats get dead people to vote. The left is what we would say in the Military as "EIGHT UP" what a bunch of losers.


Hey they were only reporters.


So... It was Huckabee's Party not Mike Huckabee that fired over the reporters heads?
Nice media twist to make it sound like he did it, but if he himself shot over their heads then that would have been directly stated rather than "Huckabee's Party" -- so his hunting buddies aren't too far behind Cheney... Hopefully he won't take them with next time too, but come on, lay off of Huckabee


Reporters should not go hunting with candidates. Based on some stupid questions they ask some need to be shot for failing to provide good information that is honest. Not sure who I will vote for but Huchabee has been a hunter for a long time. Hillary has been a spin master for a long time. Better still find out how Vince Foster was shot. Why a candidate needs a four hunred dollar hair cut. Or when with wife four pop up. Or who gave the best deal for the lot next door. What movie will you star in next. In short I could care less how many birds he shot ask some hard questions of all of them


He missed the reporters? Shame.


Jim, you're a FRAUD. Anyone who's done a bit of upland hunting knows that what Huckabee did is perfectly acceptable. The birds were flushed into the AIR. Huckabees muzzle never intercepted the sainted journalist demigods.


Being an expert, the swamp correspondent should have known to stay the heck away. I'm surprised the press gaggle didn't scare the game away. The swamp correspondent's expertise should also inform him that 75 yards is pretty much beyond the effective range of most shotguns someone would be hunting pheasant with, so despite the dramatic narrative, the reporters were pretty safe.


Yet another example of a pompous, political "Christian." He is no agent of God. He's trying to display his antlers and take home the prom queen.


Too bad Huckabee didn't pepper a few of the reporters, starting with Tankersley first.

'Course it would have been a waste of perfectly good shot, seeing how I'm sure reporters taste like crap, especially the liberal ones.


Uh, I love all the anti-Christian, anti-God experts on who God is and what he likes and doesn't like. They like to accuse God of being a murderous, barbaric god when it suits them, and on the other hand, he wouldn't want to kill a fly because "all life is sacred". You folks will likely never get it. God is not a moron like most of you are. He apparently just likes to create morons for amusement.


Seeing the Huckster in that orange hat and earmuffs made me think of another stupid looking candidate of yesterlore...Mike Dukakass with a helmet sitting in a tank looking like the kid on Mad Magazine!


Seems there's disconnect here. The impression of the story is that Mike Huckabee fired over the heads of reporters. The writer even chides the candidate for not understanding hunting safety rules.

But nowhere in the story is clarification that Huckabee actually fired one of the shots that was directed over the reporters heads or even if it was direct a line-of-fire shot.

Poor writing skills or poor journalism?


Huckabee’s party turned toward a cluster of reporters and cameramen and, when they kicked up a pheasant, fired shotgun blasts over the group’s heads.

I can't vote for him, HE MISSED.


weinerdog,
Sounds like you appropriately named yourself. Ofcourse you don't aim in the direction of people. I've been a avid shooter my whole life and don't believe toy guns should even be pointed at people. But you left wing nut jobs that try to use a totally irrelevant story like Huckabee's and try to make a big media story are just hilarious. Cheers to you "JESSIE". This is hilarious and I'd have done the same thing also. Why are reporters doing a story about pheasant hunting anyway? Bottom line, story blown way out of proportion. 75yrs away? Sounds like the reporters were too close....hehehe. Nut jobs like Jim Tankersley or weinerdog aren't interested in gun safety anyway. Gun abolishment? Now you have their attention!
PS - Bagged 3 pheasants? Sounds like Huckabee's a pretty good shot. I'll vote for him. Too bad he didn't bag a reporter.


the stupid reporters are to blame. its ok when terrorist shoot at them as an inbed, so whats the difference who fires the shots. it comes with the work.


You little weasel "REPORTER". The Huck knew what he was doing; i.e. to draw out and make the little guys look foolish were they to report as you have. He knew they were in no danger and your small time reporting of his kill for the day proved your biased position and miniscule understand of the upland game shooter's love of the outdoors and the need to keep the sporting birds' population under control. He'd be the first to protect the outdoors (national parks etc.) were he to be elected. I think it was a good gesture in all respects, including a short, but direct, warning to the little paparazzi reports to keep their distance in the future.


Is this message board just for insane people or can I post? I just can't understand the venom by people who follow politics.


This reminds me of Rush Limbaugh's tirade about something an "ANONYMOUS SUPPORTER of Huckabee"" told a columnist who wrote it. And then Rush spent 2 days attacking Huckabee for this third hand anonymous attack, not even from Huckabee but someone who supposedly liked him.

And then there was the ANONYMOUS source that told Drudge that Democrats were secretly hoping Huckabee would be their opponent.

And then the ANONYMOUS source that smeared McCain last week just when he pulled up even with Romney.

Romney's shills in the media haven't been able to take down Romney's opponents by distorting their position on issues or by personal smears.

As the election gets closer they're resorting to fabricating their negative attacks.

Mr. Tankersley, this says more about you than it does about Huckabee. HUCKABEE IS NOT ONLY A THREAT TO ROMNEY & HIS SHILLS like Drudge, but he is someone OUTSIDE OF WALL ST. and THE BELTWAY WHO DIDN'T ASK THEIR PERMISSION TO RUN. The nerve of this guy!

HE LOOKS BETTER TO ME ALL THE TIME BECAUSE OF DESPERATE ATTACKS LIKE THIS.


Huckabee's hunting habits should be the least of our concerns.

From the record it appears that Huckabee is a tax-and-spend, soft on crime, ethically challenged, politician who also brings us the added bonus of being absolutely clueless about foreign policy issues.


You dummycrats better watch what you say....between Huckabee and Bush they might just send both a hurricane and tornado in your direction...be very afraid dummycrats...be very afraid....oooooooooooooooo


Liberal reporters? Too bad he missed.


Ann Coulter's latest column tells the story on this tax raiser, alien amnesty lover, NEA backer against school choice,environmental wacko.
Huckabee is from Hope,Ark remember the slickmeister from Hope.
Huckabee couldn't protect our borders or keep us safe from Islamic Jihadists he is ful of jingoisms and he is a hypocrite. Giuliani or Romney standout as Presidential hopefuls who know how to keep our nation safe. McCain is too old and irrelevant, against tax cuts, for McCain Feingold anti-free speech law, and too loved by the driveby media. By the way, notice how the drivebys are pushing Huckabee he is a Christian they can roll. Jerry White, Springfield, IL


John E,
"They're the same way with wars, the Rethuglicans love them and always push for them..."

Hmmm. Let's See in the last 100 years...

World War 1, Wilson (D)

World War 2, Roosevelt (D)

Korean War, Truman (D)

Vietnam War, Kennedy/Johnson (D)

Bosnia, Clinton (D)

No ones hands are clean and saying one party loves and pushes for war is sad.

War is justified to those whom it is necessary.
History is a wonderful thing, you should look into it.


Well, the reporters knew it was a hunting trip. They were aware there would be birds flying around and people shooting at them. Its common sense not to be in the line of fire. Just wait till the hunt is over then report it. Otherwise, stay back. You'd think they would teach those idiots something in school.

Also, to those who worry what God thinks about hunting need to worry more about what God thinks about them. He's more concerned with your life.


I don't buy that the author is an established hunter. Only Euro-Sissies call their buddies "mates". Living on private state-licensed pheasant club in the past, I've had plenty of hunting buddies, but I've never had a single hunting mate.


Gee, Left Wingnuts have been up in arms since Fox news hit the airwaves, claiming unbalanced news reports. Why weren't you all upset over the left wing propaganda that has been spewing out over the air waves of CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC all of these years?!?!?!? Oh that's right, because it spreads the left wingnuts message for you......


I cannot imagine how this Huckabee character ever got to be a possibility for the President of our country. What a pathetic example of leadership and masculinity. ich!! This is the face of Christianity that the world sees? No wonder they all think we're nuts. Ron Paul has converted me. "I was blind but now I see . . ." Go RP


What's up with these guys thinking they can point a gun in the direction of another person and pull the trigger?

Is this really someone we want in control of our nuclear arsenal, or any other weapons for that matter. He is a loose cannon.


Sounds to me like he missed a bag full of reporters. At least Cheney was able to hit the damn lawyer, maybe Huckabee should get back out there and not come home until he bags a couple liberal doves.....hahahahah!!!!

Just a thought.....


Holy Smokes! Jim Tankersley sounds like a miserable old shrew, afraid of his own shadow and scolds to compensate for his Chicken Little world view! Jim is clearly in the tank for the Dems; he is so terrified of guns that is just one more reason to be frightened of the "law and order" Republicans. Oy, what a joyless person.


Given how reporters are so universally loved (and universally distrusted), they're lucky Huckabee and company didn't buy "reporter tags" so they could bag their limit. :)

Get over it.


The author of the above piece, Jim Tankersley, is showing his ignorance of hunting --an ignorance shared by most of the news media. His criticism of Huckabee appears invalid, although I would have had to be on the scene to say for sure.

While it is true that you don't point your gun in the direction of someone else, that is someone else on the same horizontal plane. It has long been the custom in Europe and the Midwest to shot over the heads of oncoming beaters who are driving the pheasants to you. When I say "over the heads" I'm obviously not referring to "directly above the heads" of oncoming people. I'm referring to shooting at angle of 45 degrees or greater above the ground so that your shot pattern passes 200 feet or more above the heads of oncoming beaters.


If you know anything about hunting around 5% hunt for food and the rest think of hunting as 'sporting'. These are the cowards, the idiots (think Chaney and this moron firing at reporters)and bullys who justify killing to make them feel 'manly' when in fact it shows what wusses they all are. Leave 'hunting' to the animals and here is a good idea for a reality show. Strip 10 hunters naked, smear them with bacon grease, release them into the wild, and then track them with cemeras. Then we will see how good they really are at hunting or being hunted. Idiots all...


I use a shotgun a lot. To bdshepherd. Stand out there somewhere and let someone take a shot at you from 75 yds. with a 12 ga shotgun with pheasant load and you`ll change your story. Let alone buckshot, which would kill you dead, even at 100 yds. Old Huck needs to turn down this kind of shot in the future, if he actually ever goes hunting again.


If you know anything about hunting around 5% hunt for food and the rest think of hunting as 'sporting'. These are the cowards, the idiots (think Chaney and this moron firing at reporters)and bullys who justify killing to make them feel 'manly' when in fact it shows what wusses they all are. Leave 'hunting' to the animals and here is a good idea for a reality show. Strip 10 hunters naked, smear them with bacon grease, release them into the wild, and then track them with cemeras. Then we will see how good they really are at hunting or being hunted. Idiots all...


Huck's religiosity and aim are a danger to all those around him. Ron Paul for president.


I think this is hilarious. I love to watch this guy. He's better than Leno or Letterman (and unlike them, Huckabee doesn't need a scriptwriter to come up with witty remarks). I'd vote for him just to watch the fun he'd bring to the Presidency.


I sure would like to know full details on this so I could figure out if Huckabee is/was reckless or if this is just a old-line media hatchet job. It's hard to believe that an adult could be so irresponsible. I don't find it nearly so hard to believe the press is trying to do Huckabee in and either exagerating or grossly exagerating. However, just because it's more likely that this is a wild exageration, knowing the details would help us know a lot about the reliability of all involved.


As a hunter and gun safety instructor, I always cringe when you mix candidates, guns and distractions like reporters.

Candidates seem to want to do this every election cycle.

May I remind all of you rabid democrat-politicos that it was John Kerry who did this last?

If I could do one thing, it would be to get a memo to the offices of all the candidates: do your vote hunting without guns, please.

I love hunting, I love the second Amendment. But, I'm not voting for a President because he does a photo op with a shotgun in his hands. In fact, I'd be more likely to vote for him if he held a safety class for the reporters!

PatH


Hey John E.,
You're socialist candidate John Kerry, who served in Vietnam, pulled the same stunt in 2004 (remember this: "Can I get me a huntin' license here?"). So I wouldn't talk if I were you about Huckabee. I can't stand him either, but you're hypocritical remarks are too obvious.


Hey John E.,
Your socialist candidate John Kerry, who served in Vietnam, pulled the same stunt in 2004 (remember this: "Can I get me a huntin' license here?"). So I wouldn't talk if I were you about Huckabee. I can't stand him either, but you're hypocritical remarks are too obvious.


Paul,

Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."

"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."

The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."

- Acts 10:13-15


Can a liberal ever make a comment that doesn't involve name calling, word creation or a personal attack?


Huck actually missed his intended target; he fired too high!


The rule about not pointing a loaded gun at people doesn't apply to journalists, especially in Iowa


WTF, Huck? The only problem with you firing over those "reporter's heads" is that you missed.
Range and elevation, my friend.

p.s., Still won't vote for you.


I notice in the post that it says several shots were fired, but the only person we hear about is Huckabee. Do we even know for sure that he was one of the that fired, and how many people fired other than him.


You may be an educated hunter and familar with what it takes to go bird hunting. I doubt however that anyone has the experience of hunting with a horde of the media in tow.the first rule of bird hunting is know who you are with and stay out of the way when a bird is flushed.


Nothing makes a dude look more ridiculous then in some retarded hunting getup. The pic of Huckabee reminds me of Dukakis with the army Helmet in the tank.

I guess he is doing that for the redneck vote


et al,
The last thing I'm gonna do is take a reporters word for how any event went down. Sorry reporter folk, you've spent your cred. I could see it now Huckabee swaggering with 3 dead birds and talking out of the side of his mouth, "yea, this is what happens when you get in my way!" I'm sure he did say it, but it was with levity and joking. Again, the context is raped out of the events as they happened. And I'm sure the "shot" barely cleared the cameramans head too. I don't think you become a presidential candidate by being stupid. It's the press' job to take who they don't like and skew it to their liking (agenda), what ever!


the better question is what kind of idiots follows a group of people hunting? Then complains when the birds fly over them and the hunters shoot. Besides, reporters don't make good eating, they are to hard to clean.


Over 50 years ago, I was taught not to get out in front of hunters, as well as not shooting toward people, livestock, or homes. The reporters and cameramaen who wanted to get closer to the action put themselves in harms way, instead of standing behind the hunters.

That's our media. They jaywalk and then complain about the drivers.


Warning shot.


At one point, Huckabee’s party turned toward a cluster of reporters and cameramen and, when they kicked up a pheasant, fired shotgun blasts over the group’s heads.

Suffice to say, if any of our hunting mates had pulled a stunt like Huckabee’s yesterday,
Perhaps Huckabee missed hunter’s safety classes

Interesting. You poke at Huckabee, but nowhere do you actually say it was Huckabee that fired over the reporters heads. You say his party did, but that doesn't mean Huckabee himself fired. Perhaps you're trying to apply guilt by association here?


bdsheperd is right. These folks obviously have no real understanding of muzzle velocity and distance. If they had been touched by any of the shot at 75 yards, it would have simply been falling like rain on them.

I say, if you don't want to be in the vacinity of bullets, get the heck* out of the a field where you know they are hunting, you idiots.

If it is more important to you to be reporting, or blog researching or whatever you are calling it;
then understand what you are getting into,
shut-up,
do your job,
and accept what comes with your choices you crybaby.


He is a poser - of course he and his troop of religious zealots do not know how to hunt - hunters have a life - religious nutjobs like this god dont have a life - that is why they try to force their beliefs onto others.

I find it interesting that these evangelicals do not understand that we are trying to support SECULARISM in the Middle East - while they are trying to destroy it at home.

Huckabee could never lead a movement for SECULARISM - he would be an awful president for that reason.

And he does not know how to hunt.


1# you first has to assume the reporter can tell what 76 yards are.
2# you have to believe he can tell where the huck was shooting
3# you have to actually believe anything the reporter is telling is factual at all.
Not only have I been hunting for 40 years but I am also a builder most people can tell the difference between a 12 foot board and a 16 foot board and that is standing over the top of it
when hunting you need to know your surroundings, where every one is. that doesnt mean if someone is a hundred yards away that you cant shoot. It means you cant shoot at them. hunting hedgerows you might be just twenty to thirty feet from your partner but you dont shoot at him
It is quite obvious that these reporter might have thought they were too close to the shot, but then the ? is why were they so close. what is their level of culpablity. and for all the liberal, veg headed dems, bugger off in your in my line of sight


Wow! How dare a bird hunter fire his shotgun in the air!!!! I just can't believe this...


I see a double standard here. If Huckabee had been a big liberal, he would have gotten a free pass, akin to what the Hollyweird celebrities receive. Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan, anyone?


I wasn't there but if they were 75 yeards out, and he shot over their head, it may have been safe (ot it may not have, depending on the specifics). And only those who were there and have hunting/firearm experience will be able to accurately make that determination.


Jim Tankersley claims that he grew up as a hunter in Oregon. I have to call him on that. I have never met a hunter who was in favor of more gun control. But Tankersley wrote an article for the school paper while attending Standford that did exactly that, and supported the view that gun ownership is not an individual right. I have serious doubts that he is, or ever has been, a hunter.


How can anyone expect someone to hunt safely with a bunch of slack-jawed journalists gawking out in the field? I don't like anyone within 200 yards of my shooting. If he declined the shot because of unsafe conditions you naysayers would label him a lousy shot and a non-hunter! A typical one-sided rag article.


Shoulda lowered his aim!!!


Ain't it amazin' how all the laborites and other fossils come out in lockstep to criticize anyone who challenges their beloved Hillary/ObamaOprah/Edwards? What's with all the Socialism up thar in the upper Midwest?

Skeptical Observer, Oswego, NY


The Wall Street and K Street Bunch is terrified of the Huckster because he is not owned by them as is Rudy, Romney, Hillary,Obama, and Edwards. If elected Huckabee might actually make sure the SEC protects the investors for a change. They love the evangelicals as long they get into the bus with their candidate. When its their turn to get in the bus with a man of integrity they are rightly terrified. So they will do whatever is necessary to stop him.


This is just for show to the "huntin" types to make them think that he won't infringe on their gun rights,(even though the 2nd amend. had nothing to do with hunting).


Any bag limit on reporters up there?


Why is Huckabee running again? Is video of him killing birds suppose to win me over?

This guy would make a perfect Baptist Minister, but does not belong in the Presidential race.


Bruce said:

"Golly gee, Oregon Jim... While you all's goin' back ta yer country roots in runnin' down Huckabee's huntin' as violatin' the "Basic Rules" of hunting,

aren't you violating the "Basic Rules" of balanced journalism with this one-sided hit-piece?

My Daddy was a longtime journalism instructor who always told me to get both sides of a story before reporting it. And never to quote, secondhand, unnamed sources such as "a cameraman". Suffice to say, if I had written the story above, he would have flunked me.

Perhaps you missed journalism classes when you were in college?"


You sir, are a frigging retard. Thank you for playing.


Let me get this right.
'a cluster of reporters and cameramen... kicked up a pheasant'

Sounds [reads] like a media set up.

Good aiming for Huckabee - he missed the reporters and the cameramen.


How did he miss out on hunting etiquette? Reporters aren't real people.


It is amazing how so many of the anti-Huckabee comments here sound a lot like the anti-Reagan comments back in 79 and 80. I guess liberals (Democrat or RINO) never come up with any new propaganda.


Pheasant hunting? I think Huckabee will have plenty of time after the primaries for fun. If killing birds is "fun". One would think this close to the Iowa Primaries his efforts and time could of been better spent. Meanwhile.... Ron Paul is gaining ground - he is not hunting pheasants - he is hunting voters!


Shrub has set the bar so low that idiots like Huckabee, Hillary, McCain, and Guiliani actually have a chance at the White House. Looks like it's going to be more of the same old garbage for another four years. So much for evolution. It's more like regressing back to the dark ages when the world was flat.


Sorry he missed!!!


John E.,

Funny. My recollection of the last Army Times poll is that the majority of servicemembers identify more closely with Republicans and Conservatives than with Democrats and Liberals--by a 2-1 margin, in fact. That tells me that not only are Republicans more likely to support a strong national defense, they seem to be considerably more likely to put skin in the game.

Get a clue.

Jim


The Huckster flushed out several reporters and fired his best shot from long range. Unfortunately some birds got in the way. As luck would have it, the birds are generally more tasty than stodgy old MSM reports long past the pull date.

I won't vote for the Huckster and his so-called "I'm a better Christian than you" campaign under any circumstances. His inability to hit the real target with a shotgun was disappointing though.


God, save us from oh-so-merry Huckleberry Huckabee.


The Huckster is not a hunter. I am. I've brought down trophy mule deer, trophy elk, pheasant, duck, and have been hunting well over 50 years. Some of my records are in Boone and Crocket. The photo-op made him look like the old, fat huckster,(The one before he had his gastro bypass surgery.) This guy is an unbelievable phoney. Like a wolf in sheep's clothing.


Rush, Coulter, Drudge, Fox news, and others are part of the right wing elite. Huckabee is ruining their plans, so they, in clear-as-day lockstep, attack him. These fatcats don't care about you, and they are mad that they don't get to pick the Republican candidate.


Couple of things. Those who think that pheasants are "red meat" have never hunted the bird. Wonderful tasting pheasant is white meat. Hunting safety, as taught to me, says only a stupid reporter would get front of a hunting party


Way to go MIKE!

What are these idiot reporters doing following hunters around? I'd have fired a round over their heads to begin with (time to leave boys).
Our group would skip high school classes to go pheasant hunting (in ND). BTW, I've taken hunter safety.
I've also had to shoot at someone - to protect myself.
As a Charismatic minister (living in AR), I can help you meet Jesus - the easy way OR the hard way.

"Don't point the muzzle at anything you don't intend to shoot".Absolutely. Reporters disrupting my hunt? Need I say more?


Huckleberry's Christian hunter might play with in the sticks with hicks, but I don't see his antics paying off in urban America. He's just the Republican nominee to make Hillary president


Jim, this is much ado about nothing - and it really does smack of a hit piece.
People who want to have a fit about a little pheasant shot harmlessly falling on them really shouldn't be out in the field.
To people who've never been hunting, I can see how this really would seem like a big deal. Silly.


huckabee has tried to milk jesus and his religion for votes. He and evangelicals many times pit christian against christian just like the islamic extremists will attack other muslims for not practicing just as they do. huckabee is ignorant, hipocritical, careless, greedy, fake and he's going to lose this election, i have one million romney supporters directly behind me.


huckabee has tried to milk jesus and his religion for votes. He and evangelicals many times pit christian against christian just like the islamic extremists will attack other muslims for not practicing just as they do. huckabee is ignorant, hipocritical, careless, greedy, fake and he's going to lose this election, i have one million romney supporters directly behind me.


Perhaps if the so-called "reporters" weren't jammed up his butt at every turn they wouldn't BE in danger. You who do not understand hunting and firearms can natter all you like. You only prove yourselves loopy with your assessments of hunting practices.


Huckleberry is the GOP's answer to Jimmah Cahtah. To anyone supporting this painfully unqualified candidate...what are you thinking?!


Why is it that Democrats are ALWAYS slamming Republicans? You guys will dig up ANYTHING and take it way out of context to make a Republican look like an idiot, or a war hungry mongrel. ITS RIDICULOUS! Grow some balls and really talk about things that matter for christ sake!


Notice the guy writing about it didn't wittness it, but a friend of his did. Sounds like more BS to me from the press.


Hucklebee is a scary guy. He said at that same photo op event that this is what would happen to those who don't vote for me, and he then indicated the dead bird.

He's very strange and I couldn't ever imagine having that scary guy as the next Prez. We're dealing right now with an off-the-wall mind, we don't need another one.


"The Huckster needs to pretend like he's a bigtime hunter because fake acts like this seem to impress the stupid Republicans.

They're the same way with wars, the Rethuglicans love them and always push for them...as long as someone elses family and friends do the actual real fighting.

Posted by: John E | December 27, 2007 2:01 PM"

Let's see -
WWI - Democrat
WWII - Democrat
Korea - Democrat
Viet Nam - Democrat
Bosnia - Democrat
Iraq - Republician

Hmm? I wonder which party is more war like?


Bird hunting is not a spectator sport. Hunters know where each other are by wearing blaze orange. A hat and vest with at least 400 square inches of blaze orange is the standard. Only an idiot or a reporter would go in the field without. But in the American media, the conservative or the gun owners are the idiots. All I have to say is, “You better watch what you say or do. We are the ones with the guns.”


I don't buy it. Sounds like cheap and shoddy journalism from someone desperate for a story, "a Cheney shot the lawyer reporter wannabe". I want to see video (since there were photogs present). He should have aimed lower.


Huck must not be a very good shot.He left too many smarmy,slimy,left wing hitman reporters standing.Therefor he would not make a good president.I doubt he could even hit some shyster trial lawyer.


Over their heads? What is wrong with that? Shooting over 45 degrees upwards is perfectly normal.


When does open season on reporters begin? I have to agree with An American that he missed the chance to bag a few reporters :)........ There is nothing worst than the liberal media in this country - Why can't you guys just report the facts??? Only the facts???


Realizing that you were hunting a the great corn fields of Oregon with a water dog for pheasant and a 20 ga. Perhaps it might be good to remind "the son of a hunting instructor" that a 12 ga does not carry 75 yards all to well. Also, whats the risk? A little bit of falling shot?

Most people that bird hunt, including myself would read your article and see that you are making hay out of nothing.

I'm not a Huckabee supporter but I would think it pretty silly for reporters to be around a hunting party especially with an unpredictable bird like a pheasant.


"fired shotgun blasts over the group’s heads."

Too bad he he missed. Is it a crime to shoot liberal left-wing reporters????


Duncan Hunter is a Christian who doesn't feel the Kerryesque need to remind everyone. He was is a Vietnam Veteran, son and father of Marines, and he knows how to build a fence that brings down crime rates without hurting internationa trade, the environment, or the US economy.

The Huckster is just a combination of Gomer Pyle and Mr. Haney, puffed up by a media that hates Republicans and loves to mock Iowans...


Jim, sounds like you just may be a massive douche! Congrats on the slanted, fear ridden article, sounds like you were in fear for your life! I'm just glad you made it out unscathed.


It's a good thing he didn't hit one of the reporters. I believe in eating what you kill, and reporters are very hard to clean...they are full of ca-ca. It's a lot like cleaning a lawyer...next to impossible...yucch!


Forget the guns and hunting and wars and all that. This guy actually doubts that evolution took place on this planet. Anyone that blind to facts is clearly non compos mentis. Same goes for ALL these bible-thumping morons who won't shut up about their "faith". Faith is "belief that is NOT based on proof". A dangerous thing, as we see with George Bush. GO RON PAUL!!


Sorry, but anyone who knows hunting understands that if they are merely spectators they should walk behind the hunters. The "experienced" Jim Tankersley obviously did not learn that.


Is this where all you SUCKabee's want to be when Jesus comes back???

If he'd pointed that shotgun at me, he'd be walking real funny to his next speech, with that barrel up his ass.


it strikes me that a certain % of people owning and operating firearms are complete a-holes: Cheney and Huckabee included. It's not that people shouldn't be allowed to own guns, but by God in Heaven, please clamp down on who gets to use them.


Only a bunch of ignorant liberal press clowns would show up during a hunt and demand attention. The law states:
I wonder, do these same liberal press idiots trapse through the woods on Opening Day dressed up in deer suits too?


The democraps have a point, as they are all full of something aside from information. Maybe we should ask Barak Hussein and Billary about their their stance on hunting or the Second Amendment? Maybe the other fine balanced news networks like CNN could enlighten us or they could just keep up the intelligent shots at Faux News and the GOP, as that helps me understand what kind of crap the left leaning democraps are full of these days.


Only a bunch of ignorant liberal press clowns would show up during a hunt and demand attention. The law states:
I wonder, do these same liberal press idiots trapse through the woods on Opening Day dressed up in deer suits too?


Screw you blood sucking maggots. The only good reporter is a dead reporter. When hunting, Reporters are no better than coots. Duck or get the h... out of the way!


Perhaps the media should get the heck out of the way!


Why should I believe Huckabee shoot over the heads of reporters? This sounds like the kind of propaganda half-truth I expect from the mass media news that supports the Democrat party, big government, and opposes some of civil rights like freedom of speech and the right to keep and bear arms.


Blah Blah Blah and blah...the more I read about "the choices" the more I see there are no choices.
Its all about fooling the owners of the USA, its normal citizens and tax payers into thinking "goll...ee, hes just like me, he does...." and everything for everyone is engineered to appeal to everyone.
Every handler has his/her candidate do everything and makes sure the press is there to buy in.
Im going to vote for Miss Piggy...hopefully the other 300 million in the USA will do the same with me and send these people a message..."none of the above"


Kitty,

I bet you're still crying about Al Gore losing the 2000 election too. If you think for one moment that the democrat party hasn't lied to you, then you're a bigger fool than you appear.


"If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast." (General William Tecumseh Sherman)


This MSM libby lovefest with the Huckster is because they think he is the only one running who can be, firstly, be nominated by the GOP, (won't happen..), and, secondly, will lose to Hillary, (yes indeed he would!). Aside from abortion , (only due to his religion), this guy is a complete liberal! Read Ann Coulter's column on him- dead on target....


"If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast." (General William Tecumseh Sherman)


Why would the inconsiderate reporters be out there if he is hunting. They should observe etiquette and leave room for him to hunt. Sounds even more amazing htat he got three if the reporters were surrounding and hounding him 75 yards out.


What stood out to me was that huckawannabe did not know how to operate the safety. He said " ok, red means fire right?" Yeesh, not knowing red means fire is like not knowing you have to put the key in an ignition to start a vehicle. What a complete loser.


I am a Republican, and the more I see Huckabee, the more I think is flat out right dangerous, not bad -dangerous, He is not president material, heck I wouldn't trust him on a local zoning board.
Jim

His discharging a shotgun over the heads of reporters, for a shot at a pheasant - is shocking. his comments below are revealing.

"Huckabee emerged happily from his hunt, three dead pheasants in tow, Oliphant reports. Asked for a metaphor to describe the hunt, he replied, "Don't get in my way. This is what happens."


"Is this really someone we want in control of our nuclear arsenal, or any other weapons for that matter.(sic ?) He is a loose cannon."

It'd sure as hell keep our enemies nervous; worked for The Gipper.


Reporters make good hunting dogs. Do they fetch too?


"Is this really someone we want in control of our nuclear arsenal, or any other weapons for that matter.(sic ?) He is a loose cannon."

It'd sure as hell keep our enemies nervous; worked for The Gipper.


"Is this really someone we want in control of our nuclear arsenal, or any other weapons for that matter.(sic ?) He is a loose cannon."

It'd sure as hell keep our enemies nervous; worked for The Gipper.


The Christian right (and other fed up conservatives) are supporting Mike Huckabee, but the right’s pundits are not flocking to support him, and many of them are actually trying to derail him. Case in point:

Rush's Hit-Piece on Huckabee
(stick with it, audio of Rush)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu-ZSSaZELM

Something is very very very very wrong with this picture. Bottom line: The best candidate for the Republican nomination is Huckabee.

Huckabee - Cinderella Man
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILPcnn9Sf94

JOIN WITH US!


Everyone should see these antics for what they are.
Smoke & mirrors, these "candidates"are a joke and they think this will impress the "local yocals". Everyone should look at voting records as to how these bastards really vote on important issues, not to mention the abandonment of thier constituency "the senators", as they press for the higher office.
In my opinion there is very little reason for our elected officials to go overseas "to see how the rest of the world perceives us".
Thet were elected to take care of thier little area, not the f##ck#n rest of us. I DID NOT ELECT ANY OF THESE ASSHOLES TO OFFICE, AND, I DONT WANT THEM TO BE MY AMBASSADOR.
I can only hope that in the next election for president Missouri governor Matt Blunt will be running!!!!!


"This, friends, is dangerously bad hunting form."

Since when are you a hunting expert?


To EJbdshepherdDavid:

Who uses buck to hunt birds? And unless you are shooting trap at 75 yards on a football field, I hardly believe it.


as pat mcmanus would say" irrational exurberence combined with bad judgement and bad company".


I heard audio of Huckleberry on his hunt. He asked..."So if the safety has the red dot that means the gun is ready to fire??" What?? Are you serious. He claims to hunt regularly and he doesn't know that RED means that the gun safety is in the FIRE position?? Sounds like Hucklebee and Kerry and Mitt have a lot in common.


It's a shame he didn't aim...lower. A perfectly good chance to kill one of the biggest problems in America today..liberal media and he blew it. What a shame.


Frankly, i'd have been more impressed if Huckabee had put some BBs in your left wing toucas. Hell, I might even have voted for him!


In response to Paul who says "Mr. Huckabee, how would Jesus feel about God's creatures for pleasure?"

The first creature killed EVER, was killed by god to make clothes for Adam and Eve, according to the Bible. I know God in this case does not kill animals for fun but in no way through out the Bible does God ever disprove of the hunting of animals, whether for practical and survival use or for pleasure.


I'm not a Huckabee supporter, but down here in Texas if you're not hunting and you're near the hunter -- you are the hunted. You dumbass reporters need to get away from the hunting party and get back to the hunting lodge. Dumbasses. You deserve buckshot in your Yankee butts.


I thought that gun safety was taught not only to new hunters, but to members of the NRA too. Did "Huckabuck?" skip those also? Or isn't he a "card-carrying member" of the reactionary version of ACLU?

In any case, I am not surprised. Here in Arkansas, he showed the same "loose" following of rules when it came to the ethics of gifts and expense accounts as the "Rev-Gov."


Are you kidding me?
These so call "reporters"
follow him on a hunt?

What do they expect?

Then they make a stupid reference to Cheney's hunting accident???

And they have the gall to make an issue out of this????

The press is out of control.

Huckabee, the press has sealed your fate.
It's too bad, your a good man.


haha yeah Ann Coulter's story. Riight. Since when does she have credibility? She is no better than this writer who picks and chooses convenient pieces to write about and then Mitt Drudge picks it up as a FACT about Governor Huckabee. Go do some real research on the man at www.mikehuckabee.com or just let Mitt Drudge do your thinking for you.


Oh man... where do I begin... Huck's fans can now okay Huck shooting a shotgun over the heads of reporters "because they should know to stay at the side of the shooter"... that's halarious! Huckabee is an idiot plain and simple... he gave a 20 second sound bit yesterday on Bhutto and his campaign needed not 1... but 2 clarifications to clean up his mess... and that DIDN'T include his "border" screw up... one thing you have to remember about meteoric rises in popularity... meteors never rise... they just crash into the ground...


Remember when The Right Honorable George W. Bush stood on a stage, talked to the vice president, and said,

"That's NY Times reporter Adam Klimer- and he is a major leauge A......"

The Right Honorable Richard Cheney replied,

"Oh yeah, big time."

The reason for this is that those on the conservative side DO NOT want a politicain elected by the liberal drive-by media.

Conservatives DO NOT want their candidate running for media, they want their candidate running for president.

It seems that Huckabee's advisors have told him that he needs to have an ,'Adam Klimer' moment. I/e demonstrating a collective resentment against the liberal press corps.

Nice try but we are not fooled by this. The drive-by liberal media loves Huckabee and McCain, and they hate someone like Mitt Romney or Rudy Giullianni.

Look at who got the major endorsements from the liberal papers!

If Rudy or Mitt had pulled such a stunt those liberals would have had him up on charges by now.

Liberals are terrified...for Reagan took southern democrats and made them Reagan Republicans, and Rudy or Mitt can turn Northeast democrats into Romney or Giuliani republicans.

How many of you remember Democrats for Giuliani in NYC?

Rudy's NYC government was so successful he absolutely trounced his opponent, the city councilwoman, Ruth Messenger (D) NYC.


I don't know what I find worse, the notion that killing animals is a commendable "sport" or the notion that being bloodthirsty makes for a good President. I'm for the Second Amendment and I'm sick and tired of people couching that in terms of sporting. It was about preventing tyranny and rubes like the Huckster here would have you believe they are pro-Second-Amendment because they like to harm animals, meanwhile wouldn't think twice about limiting access to citizens to military-style weapons - what the Second Amendment is actually supposed to protect!

Something about Arkansas politicians and their belief that hoaky photo-ops are what the public wants (Remember Clinton?). Sadly, the media enables them.


Typical responses. Republicans and Huckabee supporters pointing out the one-sidedness of the story and the fact that when you're hunting, it's reaction more than anything else, and hey, it's bad form to stand around watching someone hunting. I somehow doubt that those reporters and cameramen were "invited" along. Then along come the Lefties, who have never been hunting and don't know a thing about it, who aren't Christians, and have never opened a Bible, who hate anything right wing - and don't understand what liberalism is, let along Conservatism, and proceed to tell all of us how much they "know."


Shooting reporters can only make more people vote for any politician who shoots the bastards. Hell, if the Huckster shot a few of members of the MSM, we'd all be better off in the long run. Here's an idea.........instead of the traditional "Turkey Shoot" popular in the Southeast, why not replace it with a "Main Stream Media Member Shoot". It will surely attract a large crowd and lots of participants. The difference is, you can eat a turkey, all a member of the MSM is going to do is stink up the place with his or her dead rotting corpse...........wait.....that can't be much worse than how they smell now...........


Too bad he's not as good a shot as the V.P. He could have restored a little bit of integrity to the news media by eliminating a few of the feathery liars. LOL


Why is this story supposed to be important?


Wow, some of these comments scare the crap out of me...

So, as I understand it from commenters like David Anderson and Jessi and others - it's ok to fire a gun irresponsibly at people, because they're just reporters.

You people have jobs too. What if I bring my firearms to your work and start firing irresponsibly over your heads?

Really - A reporter deserves to be terrorized because of the field they chose to work in? Pathetic.

Congratulations, Huckabee. You can now add "terrorist" to the list of your accomplishments.


Cheney and Huckster need someone to teach them to handle firearms. The Huckster seems to be cut from the same cloth as Cheney, once-in-a-lifetime hunters, carnival shooters and wanna-be-leaders.


I hunt pheasant in Oregon, and am not wealthy enough to hunt on private land. I hunt on public land with many other hunters. If you were not able to shoot birds with someone in front of you, you would never shoot. The important factor is the angle of the barrel, it should be pointed up. If the pheasant was flying high, nobody was in danger. I get peppered a few times a year from other hunters, it is no big deal.


By shooting like that, I only love you more.


While I'm not a huge Huckabee fan, what kind of moron reporters trail along a group of people while they are hunting. the reporter blames Huckabee for bad form, I blame the reporter for being an idiot. Basic rule of thumb, keep your distance from guys shooting huns


I mean of course you should check for reporters 5 miles from civilazation when hunting. Isn't that a typical scenario when hunting for an animal that's only going to give it a 5 sec window to shoot it? Wow. terrible reporting


It clearly shows that Huckabee is not even an avid hunter. He was more interested in hunting a cameo at the risk of other people's lives.
I heard that Huckabee apologized for the death of the birds and blamed it on the United States.
www.pinnaclecascade.com


You are a cry baby.


If this country doesn't turn back to Jesus, all this will be moot anyway when Jesus comes again.


Oh Please! Pointed a gun at reporters. I have hunted most of my 60 years. I just got back from South Dakota pheasant hunting. I am a hunter safety instructor and when you hunt pheasant you actually have blockers and true you shoot over the head of a blocker but the gun is always at a high bird, never a low. Also, when you dove hunt you get a lot of shot to fall on you. So what. If the stupid reporters were to leave a guy alone they wouldn't have to worry their sissy butts now would they? You jerks who don't know anything about guns and hunting make me sick.


You call this journalism. Upset that he shot over a few reporters....hunting safety???

poor journalism... this story is a bigger mistake.

the reporters should not be on the hunt... and for those that took the assignmnet.... expect a letter pepper!!


Shooting a shotgun no less, which sprays pellets! Shooting anywhere near the reporters is what I call bad media strategery [sic]. Anyway, don't you just hate it when politicians create photo ops with hunting rifles just to prove they're hunters and all-around real Americans? Most polls show that people back the 2nd amendment because they own a firearm for personal protection, thank-you. I don't like posers, and Huckabee, just like Kerry, is a rifle poser. IT IS FAKE AND INSULTING TO THE AVERAGE INTELLIGENCE OF MOST VOTERS. This is why politicians are held in low esteem these days. Give me Teddy Roosevelt back.


Perhaps Huckabee has the same opinion as the rest of us regarding liberal news reporters: They should all be shot.


Folks around my part of the country are talking about a mccain lieberman tic. what do you think???


Did he get the bird? Tankersly, finish the story. I'm on the edge of my seat. Maybe the "cameraman" knows.


oh man what a bunch of dummies out there today! The story would be if Huck had hit one of those liberal pansies.


I can't believe he missed those reporters...


This "reporter" is an idiot.


bdshepherd, 3:18pm:
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"At that range, even if they'd been aiming directly at the reporters, it is extremely unlikely that any of the shot would have hit anyone, and if it did it would have bounced off. Even heavy buckshot through a choked-down barrel probably would not have reached them with enough power to matter . . ."
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I've hunted and target practiced with shotguns most my life, and while I appreciate the point you are trying to make, it is painfully obvious that you spend more time listening to campfire rumors than actually shooting shotguns.

If pointed directly at somebody at 75 yards, a 12ga load of #4, #5 or #6 birdshot like the Huckster would have been using for pheasant wouldn't exactly be lethal, but the likelihood of getting a few pellets in the face would be very high. And they would definitely penetrate skin. My grandpa had a scar near his eye from precisely this sort of incident.

While the reporters are probably making a bigger deal out of this than they need to, any decent hunter knows that Huck should have been more careful and considerate of bystanders, rather than recklessly gunning for a photo-op with a dead bird. A stray pellet could hurt someone, or take out an eye.

Now, did he clean the pheasant and eat it himself, or is he one of the all-too-common elitist hunters who simply kills for sport then tosses the bird to whatever nearby friend he can convince to take care of it for him?


I think the comments on both sides of this "issue" are hilarious. I'm a Huckabee supporter (a Huckleberry?), but I can understand JT's point. I don't agree with it, nor take it as seriously as he does (or some of the other libs writing)--but I understand it.
Likewise, I think some of the remarks, on the conservative side were a little over the top too.
Finally, there were some good one-liners from both sides.
Lighten up people...it's a funny story from both sides of the aisle.
I believe Huckabee is the most honest guy amongst the GOP contenders. If I were a Dem, I'd believe the same thing about Obama. I think they both earnestly want to see our country better. I can understamd why libs think their solutions are the best--I just don't usually agree. But, C'mon now, neither guy wants to intentionally harm our country.


At best Tankersley is guilty of 'Hearsay' ! This is a second hand story from one Chicago Tribune reporter to another (who wasn't even there). It looks and smells like a liberal MSM (S)hit piece to me.


My God, we cringe now at the verbal mistakes of G.W. Bush, repeated ad infinitum by the media and comics. Can you imagine what we would have to put up with on a day-to-day basis if a RINO nut like Huckabee managed to get elected? The comics definitely wouldn't need writers. I would be sick and throw away the TV.


How about the reporters putting themselves into a dangerous position? Why aren't they being held accountable for their obvious stupidity?

'Hey, there's some folks hunting. Let's go stand over there and watch them!!'


My problem w/ all of this is that if you ain't in the hunt why the Hell are you trailing along after hunters who may not have invited you in the first place?

I've hunted Arkansas fowl for a long time including Stutgart duck. If you ain't getting hit, the the shooter did some good shooting.


Why were reporters sluggin around a corn field while someone was hunting? Looking for something to bash a canidate? oops, a Republican canidate.


75 yards away?
Shotgun?
Damn! How'd he miss 'em?


After reading the article and the comments, i believe not one person posting including the author has ever been hunting in their lives! If a bird comes up in front of a group of hunters they are going to shoot it. If a group of people with cameras are 75 yards away they are safe, however they shouldn't be there. if this same group of camera people are so ignorant as not to know they should stay 75 yards BEHIND the group of hunters, this is how accidents happen. If you're NOT hunting, stay out of the hunting areas!!!

p.s, it is NOT unchristian to go hunting.


Most of these comments are idiotic.
If you're hunting, you have to know where people are. Don't point your shotgun toward anything you don't intend to shoot. As for assuming that they were out of range and it's ok, phooey.
This is a prime example of what not to do when hunting.

Even though this guy is a presidential candidate, I don't see how politics has anything to do with this article.


Oh the humanity.

As it is, America is headed for a second civil war. It used to be that there was a quasi healthy debate between parties... Now, their main purpose it seems is to delineate two groups who actually want to kill each other.


In order to condem or not condem Huckabee, I would have to see actual Video of the event. What can be deemed "too close" to some guy who hasn't hunted, and doesn't understand that from 75 yards a way, the loss of life or limb from a shot gun shooting 6 shot pellets is roughly .00001%, is totally different to a person who has hunted a lot of pheasants. And, someone who hasn't hunted pheasants in large fields may not know that shots are done over head one almost every hunt. You see, some of the hunters go to the end of the field and block, thereby keeping the birds from running out the back. The other hunters walk towards them. Both Groups routinely shoot over the other.

BTW - I hate Huckabee.


Sorry. I just cannot vote for a guy who can miss a PACK of reporters from 75 yds.


With this careless hunting event, coupled with his "apology" to Pakistan, one can gain appreciation of the glaring fact that Huckleberry is a lightweight.


Being a hunter myself 75 yards with a pheasant load would do little if any harm if it carried that far. If you knew as much as you claim you would have had the good sense to stay out of the way. For stupid "varmits" that get in the way on purpose they should be shooting OO Buck. The limit in KY is 12 on dipsticks that interfere, but who is counting?


First the due diligence.

I am not a Huckabee supporter and can't wait until he makes that new sound, huckasplat when he craters.

Saying that...

First, it was only a bunch of journalists. It wasn't like he was aiming at something important like children or stop signs.

Second, perhaps Iowa has just declared open season on Journalists with no limits. They are considered to be pests and nuisances.

Third, it is sort of a tradition to have presidential candidates draw down on journalists. Remember when Dukakis was in that tank? I seem to recall he was pointing a .50 Browning machine gun at a group of them.

Yes, it shows he's an idiot and shouldn't be trusted with objects that go bang, but I'm still going to try and see the humor in this. :)


This is a blog isn't it? I don't think Tom Brokaw wrote this so who gives a crap whether it's proper journalism.

Hey Bruce...What other side of the story would you like to be represented? I'm pretty sure the pheasants he shot are dead. Tough to interview things that are dead....


Perhaps the problem was not with Huckabee but the arrogant, idiotic reporters that think they have the right to be everywhere and then blame it on the prey when the reporter gets in the way.


Reporters, huh? He should have aimed lower.


This could have been a great accidental opportunity to off some network nitwits. I wish they had been hunting rabbits.


A pheasant load at 75 yards wouldn't even give the reporters a tickle. Show me a gun that would legally drop a bird at that distance and I'll buy it!


To bad the reporters where not charged with interfearing with a hunt. It is against the law in Iowa.


Like many things, hunting can reveal one's character and temperament. Obviously, Huckabee is a little too reckless for this activity. What would Jesus do... shoot in the direction of a crowd and risk injuring someone? Obviously bagging a pheasant for a photo-op is more important to Huckabee than the safety of others.


To the one[s] who would say

'Faith is "belief that is NOT based on proof". '

It takes a certain level of faith to believe the elevators and cars we trust in will operate safely. Flamable liquids are ignited to start and to run the cars we drive. It takes more than 'controlled lab proofs' to prevent the slightest mis-calibration.

Elevators are assemble and operated by cables, that we consider trustworthy. Where is your proof that the ones we ride were not installed by a drunk or drug addict, or someone who may 'want to get back at his employer'.

if you [or I] think about it, 'Faith' is the wrong question. We all have faith in something.


Like many things, hunting can reveal one's character and temperament. Obviously, Huckabee is a little too reckless for this activity. What would Jesus do... shoot in the direction of a crowd and risk injuring someone? Obviously bagging a pheasant for a photo-op is more important to Huckabee than the safety of others.


Oh my God! A Gun! The horrid death of innocent birds!! And probably lead shot pellets winding up in the fields where corn is grown for ethanol!! And gases from the burnt powder of the shotgun blast soaring into the ozone layer!!!! It's all George Bush's fault.


"If this country doesn't turn back to Jesus, all this will be moot anyway when Jesus comes again."

Scriptural Christianity teaches that a nation is led to Christ through the joint effort of individual Christians "walking the talk" in a one-on-one relationship with unbelievers, witnessing by word and deed, and the prevenient grace and workings of the Holy Spirit. Nowhere is it taught that government plays any part in a nation becoming Christian. The US and Western civilization has turned from God because we, the Church, have not been obedient to the Head of the CHurch, Christ.

That said, it makes sense that Christians vote (as part of "walking the talk") for the candidate (of any office and any party) that best represents the views and civil beliefs they derived from Scripture. Since there is no perfect mortal, it follows that no candidate is perfect. So the Christian chooses the candidate to vote for, based on the evidence at hand, closest to living out Biblical principles, and in understanding how to apply those Biblical principles to civil government without descending into theocracy. George Washington and James Madison, among others, are prime examples of that. The system they created was able to withstand non-Christian Presidents like Jefferson and Lincoln.

As for you folks that think Scripture teaches against hunting, try reading the Book first. In a nutshell, what the whole of Scripture teaches is that it is OK to intentionally kill any animal that one is going to eat or use for clothing, in mercy, or in self-defense or the defense of another.


The reason why he did not display good hunting form is because HE MISSED!


Huckabee missed the opportunity to prove his intent to better America. He should have aimed lower and started cleaning up the socialist press corp that is intent on destroying America. Next time you get the chance Governor, remember "Kill them all, let Alah separate them".


Hey, for all of you defending Huck's carelessness: whether reporters should have been there or not (and they have as much right to be in that area as him anyway, aside from journalistic needs) is not the point about Huck's judgment. The true test of responsibility is what you do when things *aren't* idea - do you still follow sensible rules? It was no major mistake, but it shows his carelessness. I must say however, a person like Huck sure beats sleazy, adulterous Rudy who uses taxpayer money to cover his trysts.


What kind of idiot hounds hunters in the middle of a hunt? That is like deciding to pick my nose while standing under the basket of a lunchtime basketball game and try to complain when I get bumped or banged by the players. If I'm watching a birder hunt and the bird flies my way, I'm ducking.


Mike Huckabee is not my first choice, but when he went hunting, he should have been left alone. If his party were using hunting dogs they all knew to shoot above the animals at any birds flushed. I'm certain they practiced safe gun handling and muzzle control among themselves.
Why weren't the "reporters" charged with hunter harassment and interfering with lawful hunting?
Reporters are free to take any shots at anyone they choose and have unlimited ammunition/words, ink, and time. They also have no liability or accountability for whatever they spew. No wonder most of them are against guns and gun rights. Their ignorance as to buckshot not bird shot, sensible proximity to hunters, and just plain safety is sadly not evident to most of the public.
I wonder how many political candidates would like to shoot "at" rather than "over" the media sometimes?


Can anyone explain why almost all liberals believe all life is sacred including doing away with any death penalties but have no problem with abortion? Almost all conservatives believe in the death penalty for murderers and rapists, but are against abortion as unfair to the innocent unborn.


Huck was 75 yards away from the reporters. If this so called journalist knew anything at all about shot guns then he would know that at 75 yards a shot gun can do about as much damage as a spit wad and a straw, and if he knew anything about hunting he would know that the reporters are to blame for trouncing around a hunting ground. I personally would be a bit pissed if someone spoiled my pheasant hunting with mics, cameras, wires, and idiots stomping around scaring all the game. This is bad journalism, but hey if this is all that Tankersly can "get" on Huckabee then the Dems and liberals have a real problem come election time.


God, most of the comments are moronic!

1) Do your own research you lazy dumbasses and stop asking for proof...

2) Pheasant hunting is just lame, might as well put a pigeon in a cage and shoot it...

3) If you think reporting has standards then you seriously have no clue about the history of newspapers...

I think the blog piece is witty and unoffensive...

But then, I'm not a moron.


I just looked at a few of you individuals posts. Decided that most of you have much time, but little else.
One thing did get to me. A couple of A-holes talking about the right starting war so "others" could go and fight them. My guess is that you never served a day of service in the Military for our country.
I served twenty years, in Bosnia, Honduras, Korea and yes, my last year was at Camp Taji Iraq.
I served under Clinton, Bush and his son.
I voted for Mccain and was sad that Bush got it, but I supported him and voted for him. I voted for him again in 2004 as well, from Iraq.
I just wanted to set the record right.
Oh, I don't care for Huckabee. I think he is weak and I didn't like the "floating cross". He basiclly stated with that advertisment that he thinks Christians are stupid. As a Christin I was (let me borrow a word from the Left) offended.
Obama is ignorent of world affairs.
Hillary is a Communist.
Maccain is the opposite of the above individuals.
Huckabee and Romney are running on the religious ticket. I don't like that.
For President of the United States of America, I want first an American (born and raised). Secondly I want a Military person (man or woman). America is not an island. Like it or not, it IS the world power.
Third; I voted for Jimmy Carter (D). That was a mistake. I will not repeat that mistake ever again. Democrates are weak individuals that can only fight with words. Figuratively speaking; If you slap a democrate they ask "how can I help you", rather than sticking to their guns.
jimmy carter. What was I thinking? I can only laugh and shake my head. I voted for him! Carter lied and people died. Worse yet, they died in failure.
But Democrates like failure. Look at their leaders; Harry and Nancy. Havent done squat but point fingers.
We pulled out of Vietnam and hundreds of thousands died afterward. They want to do it AGAIN!
Why is it that they are better educated than I, but I am so very much smarter than them.


Huckabee might very well have invited press participation in this little photo-op, in which case he deserves a 100 percent rip. If he didn't, however, then why was the press there but to hopefully catch Huckabee making a mistake just like this one. They were probably hoping someone would get sprayed with buckshot. Otherwise, this whole 'hunting trip' would not have been even a speck on the radar.


Huckabee as bad as cheney? gl with that stretch.
Cheney can dislocate his jaw so he can feed on the lifeforce of small chidren.
He eats them whole and then resides in his man sized safe while he digests them.


I just loved it when Dukakis steered that tank he-he-he! I still laugh. Next I want to see Hillary windsurfing with Kerry or sailing with Gary Hart :)


Hey Jim Tankersly,,,why not write a meaningful article on why none of these candidates will do anything to secure our borders, why this inept congess led by two morons, pelosi and reid failed to get anything meaningful passed, why bush continues to thumb his nose at the American people regarding border security, the list could go on and on and yet you report on this nonsense...what a bunch of garbage...


The birds primarily are shot for food, the pleasure comes from good marksmanship.
I think Jesus would approve of both.

Maximum effective range of a shotgun is 40 yards...75 yards is nearly double that...


Too bad he aimed so high.


My fellow Republicans - do not be deceived by the clown Huckabee. He will lead us to the ash heap of history.

We don't need another dumb southern governor after Clinton and Bush.


Huckabee had been going downhill ever since he insulted Bush using the 'arrogant' term and for letting Rollins insult Rush Limbaugh.
But shooting over the heads of reporters, without actually shooting them may prove he is a compassionate conservative afterall and this was done just for political reasons to regain his momentum... just kidding, but in some other countries if you had people like much of the media, condemning their own president and country, they would be shooting AT the reporters.


Bdshepard is correct.

My guess is they were shooting #4 shot, probably 3 3/4 dram equiv. powder.

At 75 yards not a thread. Few people that have hunted haven't had shot fall on their position -- extremely common.

At about half that distance, it might have been questionable. But with the barrel deliberately elevated, still not a safety violation.

The newscritters might ought to leave the politicians the hell alone when they're out hunting. Frankly, I think they deserved getting butt stroked.

Mike


hmm ok I'm a Republican but had this man been leaning towards getting my vote.....he would have just lost it. Yes over that. How stupid can one be to shoot over someones head. At least Cheney didn't see anyone.


Intentional or unintentional? I want to shot over the heads of SOME reporters. Maybe we could make it a new sport.


I would have shot at the reporters. Would anyone really miss them anyway?


Frankly, I feel sorry for the pheasants.

Now "reporters" and lawyers...
They can assassinate you publicly and embezzle your money... but pheasants just want to be left alone!

Perhaps it is immoral to shoot over the pheasants heads!


My question. Is this guy Elmer Gantry or Elmer Fudd?


All of you sooo smart and witty. In mean time your country, used-to-be-called Republic is about to reach point of free fall.
Yah, bite each other balls. That’s funny. Never mind the real issues.
Just in case, you have to stop and catch the breather, read Constitution. Perhaps it will help you to choose the right candidate.
If I have tp point him to you, yo are kinda pointless.
Happy New Year


I like to talk about stool.


I am glad that ol' Jim had a good hunt. For those of yall who are ignorant you shoot #5's at pheasent not buckshot.


Huckabee is a typical power addict. He started off with a gateway drug called Preacher, but when that didn't work anymore he needed something stronger so he ran for public office. Steadily graduating to the harder drugs he topped out as governor of Arkansas, but even that failed to satisfy his craving. Now he's after the mother of all power trips, the strongest drug in the world - President of the United States.

His true colors are beginning to show in Iowa. On a pheasant hunting trip to demonstrate how gun-friendly he is he managed to bag one of four birds that his entourage flushed-out in front of a gaggle of cameramen. Solemnly describing how he chose which bird to kill he explained that the three that got away had Huckabee campaign stickers on their sides, while the hapless straggler had a rival's campaign button on its butt.

Haven't we had enough of these vicious politicians? Give the old coot a pulpit in some backwoods logging town where he can hug snakes and drink his own urine!


I've read the CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC articles on Huckabee's pheasant hunt. Not a single mention of the hunting party shooting at, over, or anywhere near the reporters.

Maybe CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC are involved in a coverup for Huckabee, or maybe it just didn't happen.


Huckabee is a complete phony who dropped out from bible school to work for a televangelist. How he ever became a governor tells you more about the sorry state of Arkansas that it does about his qualifications (or lack thereof). If you wanted to completely rework a disfunctional business, wouldn't you pick a brilliant, energetic, experienced, educated and squeaky clean (ethicaly) man like Mitt Romney for the job? Wouldn't you want the same type of man to take on the mess that is the federal government?


Luckily for the reporters, he opted to adopt an Air Force slogan while hunting: "AIM HIGH!"


The article doesn't say if the Huckster was one of the shooters shooting over the heads of the press. If it happened as reported, Huck should have stopped it before it occurred, or admonished the shooters afterward for unsportsmanlike behavior.

As far as Hucklebee's rising polls are concerned, I think the Evangelical Christians recognized him as one of their own - and jumped on his bandwagon. Unfortunately for Hucklebee, there simply are not enough of them to accomplish anything when the votes get counted. He has peaked.


So. Number 6 shot would not kill reporters at 75 yards; therefore no harm no fowl? Typical leftish Means Justifies The Ends.

Since the means were not sufficient to kill the reporters, such a shot is not to be taken as a serious safety violation?


Good grief... Friggin' liberals are looney... My question would be: if all these reporters were on the hunt with Huck... were they wearing their orange vests? If not they were the ones being unsafe.


I wonder if Huckabee had his son clean the birds!!! I'm sure they both would've enjoyed that!!! Yes..a great father, a man of family values...ha-ha-ha!!!


Uh... a conservative politician who's an experienced hunter fired a shot well over the heads of a pack of mainstream media personnel. I don't see a problem with that.


'The 3 men shot at the bird, bringing it down.'

WHO would want to eat it???

Eveytime you chewed you would be grindng up more buckshot than meat.


Maybe the trigger happy, reckless hunter is not a mythical stereotype, maybe it's real. I am a target shooter who agrees with everything in this article. I do not go anywhere near the woods during hunting season. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. And monkeys do, too, if they have a gun.


As the range office I gladly report no safety rules were violated. Reproters are on the Federal Destructive Species List.


He must be a pretty bad shot to miss all the reporters. At least Cheney hit an attorney.


Huckabee has got to be the biggest moron and flim flam artist that's ever campaigned for POTUS. I'm a Catholic conservative who isn't fooled by his so called christian/leftist pandering. Judging by his Arkansas record, the man is definitely no conservative. And everything the voters need to know about his foreign policy experience came from Huckabee's own flapping mouth: "I'm not an expert...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express". I'm totally convinced that the only people that will vote for this guy are inbreds.


hell, where i come from JUURNALISTS are fair GAME!

He musta hot too high. If I had some of them dorks following me around on the hunt. I would have switch to rocksalt and peeppered them keesters.....

I forgot, this is just another self serving photo shoot to try to get votes... Like Kerry's Goose hunt...


So what you are saying is that Huckabee aimed too high and had the wrong weapon for the job? Too many Journalists, not enough Pheasants?


The birds primarily are shot for food, the pleasure comes from good marksmanship.
I think Jesus would approve of both.

Maximum effective range of a shotgun is 40 yards...75 yards is nearly double that...


"If this country doesn't turn back to Jesus, all this will be moot anyway when Jesus comes again."

You're gonna be waiting a long time for your fairy tale prince to return, Terry.


What a joke of an article.

If this really happened, where are any of the reporters who were present corroboarting it? Why are there no photos? Why is the source not named?

Let's look at what CNN's article about the hunt says:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/26/huckabee.hunt.ap/index.html

Nope, no mention there. How odd! Seems the kind of thing that would at least warrant a mention if it had actually happened.


So let me just tell everybody here that I've been told by somebody I know is reliable that Jim Tankersley has been seen having sex with barnyard animals.

Gee, this yellow journalism is FUN!!!!


"A" wrote: "And unless you are shooting trap at 75 yards on a football field, I hardly believe it."

Our trap range is also the 100 yard gun range everyone in the club uses. The birds often make it past the 75 yard mark and are hit. In fact, for an entire year I used a 100 year old long barrel full choke Modele 97 just for the hell of it.

I needed to let the birds go long and drop before the pattern was wide enough to shoot them. Often they were close to the ground when hit.

Using a full choke model 97 long barrel was an entertainement for all. However, I often scored 22 or 23 out of 25. Hit 24 a couple of times.

Switched to a 391 Beretta with modified cylindar and scored 50 in a row. My name is now on the plaque. First one EVER to hit his second 25 immediately after his first.

But hell, come on out and hold the bird in your left hand while I take my time leveling the '97 at a certain kill. Won't kill YOU, but I will guarantee you will not forget the experience.


This guy is a creepy little hate filled nut. Anybody can see it. Forget the "Christian" stuff, most of the country is Christian, but we don't try to make a living out of it.


Ok, let's get this straight...
Huckabee was hunting. He was there for a purpose.
The reporters were not there to hunt, they were there to report. They were (coincidentally) taking up valuable hunting space, and thereby became unintentional targets.
Heres a hint. If you are not hunting, GET OUT OF THE FIELD, you IDIOTS!!


Too bad he missed. At least Chenney hit his...


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I am glad he missed the reporters.
As a lifelong hunter, I have always had the rule of you shoot it, you eat it.
With the amount of crap that's in reporters these days, they would be impossible to clean.


big man huckelbee blasting birds from the sky - tough guy - too damn funny. the guy is still a big fat loser. looks like huck lost a battle with a tanning booth though. i just saw the guy on the air and he looks like an idiot. big red face with pale spots around his eyes. thanks for the laugh huckle - enjoy your 15 minutes.


WHY DO THESE POLITICIANS THINK THAT HUNTING MAKES MAKES THEM LOOK LIKE SOMEONE THAT THEY ARE NOT.GIVE IT A BREAK HUCKELBERRY.


For all those who made anti-hunting comments: Hunters are the stewards of our natural resources. If you think anything less, you are mistaken. Hunting and those who partake keep our resources abundant and healthy by managing the size of the herds/flocks and keeping them healthy. Whether for sport or other reason, hunting is good for the enviroment.

The vast majority of hunters and sport shooters are extremely safe, much safer and more responsible than those who don't use firearms.


“Never point your firearm at something you do not intend to shoot. Make sure you positively identify what you are shooting at and know what lies in front of and beyond it.”. . . . . . 0 Reporters, 3 Pheasants . . . .I'd say overall, a bad day.


Wow.... at reporters too. I understand the mistaken identity though; reporters do have a bird like quality...That being vulture.

In some circles, Huckabee would have been awarded a medal!


Slow newsday, huh?


Well I just watched some posted video of the hunt. Seems the reporter is the only one shooting anything in a reckless manner, mainly his mouth!


Did you hear about Hillary's hunting trip?

She bagged 4 of Bill's bimbos and three former staff members!


Waterboard Huckaboob.


Did you hear about Hillary's hunting trip?

She bagged 4 of Bill's bimbos and three former staff members!


Is this a joke..People have been trying every crap angle to find something against Huckabee, I'm not voting for him but I know mud slingers when I see them. and this is all it is. it's not even huckabee. says "huckabee's party" this is a pure crap story.


Support Ron Paul for the Republican nomination. He is the only candidate that stands for freedom.


Do you people have ANY idea how ridiculous you look to the rest of the people on this planet?

The fact that an insane religious zealot like Mike Huckabee can actually be up there with the front runners is mind boggling.

The fact that he can be up there AFTER seven years of messed up warmongering and coffer looting faith based rule by an inbred Christian moron who is the result of cousins marrying is plain and simply retarded.

What ever happened to your First Amendment separation of Church and State?


What would Jesus do? He certainly would not go and kill animals simply because "it's fun". Who was it that said "Thou shall not kill"?


I have been hunting with shotguns for over 35 years. The size of shot used for bird hunting loses it's velocity in about 100 yards to the degree that it will not hurt you. There is no way to have your own little square mile of hunting space these days so you end up in the field with other hunters. You certainly try to avoid shooting close to someone. The gun is aimed skyward at the birds and the shot is on its way down if it hits you. It has spread out into a pattern many yards wide. Having been peppered many times I know you can hear it coming, giving you plenty of time to turn away. It is no big deal. However, you can make use of such things politically to slur the image of someone in the eyes of those that have only seen guns on television and have no experience.


How pathetic how far the so-called journalists are willing to go to create a story. If he hadn't gone hunting, you'd have said he was a rabid environmentalist. Why don't you guys just spend your time covering each other? Your antics surely would make better news than this.


So with all those reports - where is the video/photos? We're republicans - we need facts and data!


can you say 'Liberal hit piece'? I knew you could!!


I'd like to spend time with Huck and Cheney.

On the other hand spending time with a bunch of sopping foamy meringue spewing reporters is very low on the list.


Where is the vidio and/or pictures? I'm sure we'll see them on the evening news. If not, liar, liar pants on fire.


You are a bunch of goofballs.

When the media leeches have you surrounded, you are going to be shooting over someone's head.

This was clearly another case of the media setting up and making news.

But, how can this be, this is the media's darling huckleberry.


I'm curious Paul (see below), what do you eat? Have you ever eaten anything that was alive? Did your eating it kill a 'creature (or plant) of 'God'? Stuff the psuedo-pious nonsense. This was a photo op, not a morality play.


Can a shotgun shoot 75 yards? Mine can't


Too bad Huckabee's aim wasn't a little lower, maybe he could have taken out some of the stupid media personnel who were asking imbecilic questions before the hunting party started.

This article is the type of cheap crap that has half the country mad as hell and the other half blindly accepting these journalistic turds in the mistaken belief that it's real news.


Gomer Pyle for president?

Has anybody ever seen Gomer Pyle and Huckleberry at the same time... Working on this theory that Huckleberry and Gomer Pyle are indeed THE SAME PERSON! They act the same, talk the same....Goooolllyyyy - I'll bet they even smell the same!


How is this even legal? Even if it wasn't aimed at someone, we can't have people randomly shooting bullets off into the horizon. People can, and have, gotten shot this way.


Talking about bad form, what are the stupid reporters and camermen doing out in a field with a bunch of hunters. Listening to the press you would think only the Republican's are dumb, but you have proved yourselves wrong again.


As for the idiot who thinks buckshot cannot damage people at 75 yards, he should talk to my friend Alan who was blinded at about that range by a shotgun blast.

I wasn't thinking of voting for idiot Arkansan Huckabee anyway, but this seals it.


Shucks...Huckabee missed.


If Romney were "hunting" you would have been safe; he wouldn't have figured out how to take the safety off...


Now, people, please! You know that did not really happen, or we would have heard about it from all the liberal media press corps over and over and over and over and over....well, you get it. This is on Drudge Report, remember. He has an agenda to get somebody else elected.


Huckabee sucks.


Forget the story. I can't believe the writer has a job. Go back to to school Jim!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is interesting to see how people get so charged up by things they know nothing about. Because No. 7 1/2 shot will shoot about 780 feet. How ever it is only deadly for about 90 feet. I did not see any stories about any press getting hit. So either it was not shot in the direction they were in or they were more than 75 yards. Either way this goes in my "non story" catagory. It is very interesting that those whom dislike a Huk. use things they know nothing about to attack him. I would aplaud any polotition Dem or Rep. that will go hunting, I believe it shows weither they can shoot or not, who knows the White House could be stormed and I for one would like to know if the Pres. could handle a gun for his own protection. I make this jest to show how stupid this blog is.


Huckabee is simply a gormless hick who appeals to rednecks in the Republican party and other mouth-breathers.

The man is a clown, but he's also a damned liar, claiming he didn't raise taxes while governer of Arkansas when in fact he raised taxes 47%.

So lets all laugh at this Huckabee waste-of-space and his idiot supporters while he enjoys his brief time in the limelight.


What are reporters doing out in the field in the first place? Without guns, they should be shot.......no questions asked! There are other venues for collecting the so-called news other than chasing hunters for news and photos.


For all of you that are criticizing the press for being "in the way" of this hunting trip, well do you seriously think that this whole hunting trip wasn't completely planned out and the media was asked to come? The media just doesn't pop up out of the trees and follow a guy and his friends while they are shooting guns. This was totally staged for PR purposes. You've got to be smarter than that...


As a hunter, I find it pretty insulting for a candidate to "go hunting" intentionally in front of a bunch of journalists thinking that slapping on some hunter orange will magically "buy" my vote.
I taught all of my boys a lifelong habit to never point (or shoot!) a gun in the direction of another person (or a hunting dog). I think that Huck must of succumbed to the pressure to "bag something" so he would not be skunked in front of the media.
I'm not sure I want a leader that makes dumb mistakes when under pressure...


First off, ,it wasn't buck shot. Buck shot is A. illegal to hunt birds with. B. a stupid thing to shoot at birds to begin with. and C. an idiot reporter pull stuff out of their butts.

And if any of you were to watch the CNN video of this event. At all times in the shot in question the 3 mens backs were to the cameras. Not making it possible to have shot at them.

Idiots everywhere in the media.

Oh and I could careless about Huckabee as a candidate. He is no better or worse than anyone on either side. they are all boobs.


This kind of pontificate reporting makes me wish Huckabee aimed lower... Tongue in cheek speaking.

It's just so freakin' boring watching everyone from every side injecting their own views into stories; Who would have thought the U.S. media world would have followed the path blazed by the likes of the Enquirer!

Yikes...


How could he have missed all those reporters? He had a shotgun. Oh well, my vote is going to someone who is a better shot.


Jim:

This 77 year old grew up with the exact same tradition as you about the use of shotguns. (I was particularly depressed about the poster who said, in effect, that "75 yards is far enough away" (to point and fire a shotgun)

This "damyankee" hunted with Southerners (using at different times, a rifle and a shotgun -and even a pistol)and I would have been cut dead for such behaviour in the field so he can't convince me that's the way the "Rebs" handle firearms.

I'm thinking he's another "lifelong hunter" like Romney protesting his acquaintance with hunting guns and hunting.


Huckabee is a populist-styled authoritarian. Like the Perons. Very generous man with other people's money. The one Republican versus whom I would likely have to vote for the Democrat.


Now, people, please! You know that did not really happen, or we would have heard about it from all the liberal media press corps over and over and over and over and over....well, you get it. This is on Drudge Report, remember. He has an agenda to get somebody else elected.


a guy is on a hunting trip, followed by a bag of reporters (Paps) trying to get different image pictures of him. He probably could not have shot in any direction without shooting over the head of some dumbass Pap!

Alas it wont rest until later, some of you numb nuts wont let.

Ringnecks taste great when they are baked slowely esp two birds for a Merry Christmas dinner, after you thank the lord for the blessing.


Seems a tad overblown to me. 75 yards with birdshot may give you a nasty welp but people are making it sound like he was laying down fire with an AK. Btw, are there no rules governing those meandering around an area where a hunt is taking place?


What would really be nice is to have someone invite all the Main Stream Media reporters on a hunting trip, then pull out a machine gun and mow down the traitorious bastards. Talk about "must see TV". I doubt many juries in the country would convict anyone who did that.


As I read some of these comments and wonder how it must feel to wake up miserable and full of hate each day.


Anybody hunting pheasant at 75 yards with Number 4 shot must be confused and think they are in a duck blind. That is way too far out for a flushed pheasant, and the shot too heavy and the pattern not dense enough. That is duck range and penetration size for duck feathers. We hunt pheasants with low base 7-1/2 or 9 birdshot, and the dogs flush those birds out of the brush much closer. This group should have had a guide along with them, and a rangemaster.

Gene
California


Dont mix up buckshot and birdshot, y'all. Buckshot is big pellets, real big. Birdshot is teeny-weeny bee bees.


Very Interesting. Love the stupid comments!


GOD is Busy

If you don't know GOD, don't make stupid remarks!!!!!!!

A United States Marine was attending some college courses between assignments. He had completed missions in Iraq and Afghanistan .

One of the courses had a professor who was an avowed atheist and a member of the ACLU. One day the professor shocked the class when he came in. He looked to the ceiling and flatly stated, "God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes."

The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ten minutes went by and the professor proclaimed, "Here I am God. I'm still waiting."

It got down to the last couple of minutes when the Marine got out of his chair, went up to the professor, and cold-cocked him; knocking him off the platform. The professor was out cold. The Marine went back to his seat and sat there, silently.

The other students were shocked and stunned and sat there looking on in silence. The professor eventually came to, noticeably shaken, looked at the Marine and asked, "What the heck is the matter with you? Why did you do that?"

The Marine calmly replied, "God was too busy today protecting America 's soldiers who are protecting your right to say stupid stuff and act like an idiot. So, He sent me."


PS - God loves hunters.


This guy shoots at the press and everybody is making excuses for him? He's reckless, he's dangerous. Who knows if it wasn't intentional. This guy should be locked up. He's not fit to be a crossing guard let alone Commander in Chief.


75 yards? I've personally been hunting and shot accidentally at shorter than 50 yards with birdshot, and me with no shirt on (hey, it was warm out!). I lived to talk about it...because NOTHING HAPPENED. It stung a little. And 75 yards with shotgun pellets? Give me a break. I'm tempted to go outside right now and get shot from 75 yards, then post video proof that you all are clueless idiots if you think that would hurt anyone...


Now this reporter was really looking for something to criticize. 75 yards away, and he thinks it was too close.


Awesome! Give the man enough rope and he'll hang himself. Better now than before the Amerikan Sheeple foolishly vote this opportunistic liar into office. Let's hope he isn't as Teflon coated as Dick Cheney is! I'm glad no one down range was hurt.


Awesome! Give the man enough rope and he'll hang himself. Better now than before the Amerikan Sheeple foolishly vote this opportunistic liar into office. Let's hope he isn't as Teflon coated as Dick Cheney is! I'm glad no one down range was hurt.


Was Kerry hunting pheasant, or was it ducks in his photo op? Will we see Huck on a wind board? Maybe he'll ride a tank, or say mission accomplished on a carrier. John Wayne where are you now?


If the story is true as written it is indeed poor form, dangerous and would lead to very harsh words where I come from. You never point a firearm towards someone, over their head or near them. Is this another example, a la Kerry, where we get treated to a politician hunting for votes?


I am starting to like Huckabee everyday. If reports come out distorted, and not factual from the media, he must be good.


ROFLMAO at most of you!

This is why I'm:

vegan
democrat
studying Buddhism

Other than a good laugh, most of these comments are useless.


Let's see it Todd. Proof is in the pudding.


The fact that he considered a few quail as being "in his way" is a bit troubling to me...


This reporter is a pansy. He never been hunting before. Try duck hunting jackass.


Maybe he should have aimed lower.


Mikes only mistake was aiming too high!


75 yards? 75 miles? If your dumb enough to think a bullet won't kill someone, then maybe you won't mind getting shot at. The pheasant didn't live to tell about it.


I would gladly invite any of you to stand 75 yards away and let me fire my Remington 1100 at you....feeling lucky? Huckabee is an idiot and this is what you get when politicians pander to the crowd. Go back to thumping people with the Bible and put down the gun.


Huckabee has even more to worry about now that he just made the Judicial Watch 2007 list of most corrupt politicians!


You press guys are trivial asses about Huck and the public rallies to him in sympathy due to your sophmoric attacks.


GOD is Busy

If you don't know GOD, don't make stupid remarks!!!!!!!
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THERE IS NO GOD!!!!


Hey Brucie, how many sides of a story do you need? Guess what, you don't point a gun at anyone, period.
I am amazed at Mike Huckabee's lack of judgement. Firing a shotgun over people's heads - Such a jerk! What he said afterwards about what happens when people get in his way was even worse. What sort of Christian is he anyway?
He's certainly lost my confidence. A typical redneck good ol' boy, hopefully will go back to the backwoods of Arkansas where he likely belongs.
Martha Celick
Sacramento, CA


Was the cameraperson a SHOOTER or not? Can't believe a CAMERAPERSON wouldn't SHOOT a picture of a republican if it could be shown in a bad light. Video has more impact than words. Since they only reported words, the facts speak for themselves.


If I were a reporter, I wouldn't be anywhere near anyone famous or running for president with a gun in their hands. This story is a joke....but so is the press...and for that matter most of the presidential candidates.


Paul, how does God feel when liberals kill unwanted children for pleasure?


Every one is complaining about the press being in the middle of the hunt. Did any one think to ask if they had been "invited" there? Why would Huckaboo be there himself if it wasn't for a "press" moment. At this point in time everything he does is for publicity. C'mon guys, he is a politician for crying out loud.


Wow, put a shotgun in the hands of a Rethuglican Prez candidte (Huckster) and the "faithful" Wingnut peanut gallary starts drooling over him, what a bunch of flipping idiots, no wonder they voted for the current Drydrunk in Cheif...twice.


The alternate universe Mike Huckabee Christmas video with all the deep underlying meanings laid out like a frog in a middle school science class. If you believe in science class, that is.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DksofcROmXs


What kind of a nut points a loaded gun in the direction of other people even if they don't intend to fire it? How far away they were and that he "aimed" over their heads has no relevance because you just DON'T point a loaded weapon toward anyone.


You guys are a trip. Do you honestly believe that if Huckabee were to shoot over the heads of a flock of reporters, only a single reporter in the whole bunch would write about it? It would be headline news on every tv news show and in every newspaper in the country.

Let me clue you clueless people in. It didn't happen.


I thought this was a new way of controlling global warming. I mean, how many "carbon-credits" do you get for taking out a reporter?

Now, if he was AIMING at one and missed, not THAT would concern me....lol


What can you expect from a redneck from KLINTOON Country? Maybe this will stop him.


Its going to be Huckabee and Barack Hussein Obama for the presidency.


OOOOoooooooo. Gomer Pyle playing tough guy. I think the 1,033 pardoned prisoners pretty much said the same thing: This is what happens when you get in my way.


I doubt that you can fire a shotgun in any direction in Iowa right now without being within 75 yards of a reporter. Not even a Huckabee supporter, but it seems like some people would fault him for sneezing and spreading germs. Thought the 'Don't get in my way...'quip was hilarious. Lighten up.


Actually:
1. Birdshot from "75 yards" wouldn't be dangerous at all.
2. Jesus would be fine with what Huck did. The birds were killed to eat...not simply for pleasure. Though, the pleasure experience from making such a fine shot cannot be denied.
3. Too many of you wimpy, whiney, supposed males have been completely emasculated haven't you?


Probably the wisest course is not to discharge a firearm with a large group of people who are theoretically within the line of fire. Generally, the group watching should be behind you as you shoot, not within the ring of fire. Remember, the responsibility lies with the person with the gun; you have to assume that in a large group, some of the people will not be paying attention, using the cellphone, etc.


The real tragedy is the bird did not fly alot lower and he could have dropped a couple of liberal reporters along with the bird. Now THAT would make excellent news!


I do not believe for one nanosecond that the incident occurred as written. So you are saying that the hunting party changed directions and started walking toward the media types and then opened up when the pheasant went out.
Wow, what a bunch of garbage.


Mike,

The military is the biggest threat to our freedoms, they don't protect a damn thing except the elites selling out this country at an alarming rate. Look up the video of the military confiscating guns from citizens in Louisianna. The military are willing to follow illegal orders like that - they are the problem!


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ITS FUNDAMENTALISTS- OF ANY AND ALL RELIGIONS BRUCE- THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE END OF THE WORLD- SOMETHING YOU SHOULD ALL THINK ABOUT

I NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD GOD-- EXCEPT HES A GOOD REASON TO KILL

SONG- JESUS SHOOTING HEROIN
GROUP- THE FLAMING LIPS

GET A LIVE BRUCE- AND ANYONE ELSE IN HIS CAMP
I HAVE SPOKEN
YOU SHALL RESPOND


UMM? Did these reporters get asked along on the hunt or just show up? I'd be p.o.ed if I was hunting and a bunch of drive by's showed up. Don't get me wrong,shooting even in their general direction was a hunting faux pas. But I would have had them escorted away by fish and game.
Also I'm sure he wasn't hunting just for fun. Anyone who has eaten fresh pheasant or even quail can tell you it is to kill for!


I bet when you hunted back in Oregon, you brought along a pack of useless people who did nothing but get in the way. This is probably why you can relate to that one time you went out hunting. What story were you hoping to get out of this anyway? The man got three pheasants? I will be looking for this story on the front page of every major newspaper.


Hsing Lee -
"Do you people have ANY idea how ridiculous you look to the rest of the people on this planet?"
Why should we, who have exceeded every other nation in history in creating a great, propserous, and free nation, we who have not colonized any other nation, we who have shed our blood for many other nations to be free without conquering any land - be concerned with what other backwards, ignorant, corrupt, and jealous nations feel about us? They should be learning from us, not criticizing us. If they must criticize, then quit accepting our money.

"What ever happened to your First Amendment separation of Church and State?"
What country are you from? There is no "separation of church and state" in the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution. There is 1) a responsibility of the State to not prohibit all free speech, first being religious speech, and 2) a prohibition against the State establishing a State church. Why not try reading the document before saying stupid things?

FYI, our greatest Presidents have been overtly Christian. Washington, Madison, and Reagan to name just 3.


I'm sure the reporter folks made more of it than it really was...I'm not sure I trust this article either from a person that claims to be an avid upland hunter while using a Mossberg pump shotgun...


Steve, I don't think anyone even IMPLIED he shot AT reporters! He shot toward them. The reporters shouldn't have been there to begin with. Get a clue!


To slightly change a quote from a famous bumpersticker:

Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than Gov. Huckabee's gun.


Ron Paul 2008!!!!

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Any non-hunter who got within 75 yards of me while I was pheasant hunting would be interfering with a hunt, a crime here in Penna.
Being a reporter does not excuse you from using your head!


To the rightwing nuts who are bashing the reporters. Will you say the same thing about the Fox news reporters? I think not. Your hypocrisy still shines through.

Someone also said that Cheney had a shooting accident; and Bill shot Monica in the face, and he's the greatest president ever.

Well, at least Monica didn't die when Bill shot her (and by the way, it was mutual... between two adults. And yes moron, a person over the age of 18 is considered as an adult when it comes to consexual sex).

But when Bushie boy Junior lied... thousands of people die. I'd rather have a lying adulterer whose lie didn't kill a single soul, than a lying bastard to "indirectly" killed thousands!


I really doubt the veracity of the report. I saw the video that the cameraman was shooting. The same footage was shown on Breitbart and YouTube.

Check your sources. ;)


Lieberman for President.


Not for a minute do I believe this story is true. Just another lying liberal (sorry for the redundancy) making up garbage.

Besides, when I took hunter's safety I was taught to never point a gun at a PERSON, unless you intend to shoot.

Since reporters aren't real people, what's the harm?


Did he apologize? He was sure quick to apologize for the assassination...what a tool


I would think that one who professes the love of Jesus Christ would not want to go out and kill anything especially since he does not need it for food. Plenty in the grocery store last I looked.

One thing to be a real guntoting unreligious redneck but killing should not be part of Mr. Huckabee's desire especially for political gain.

His hunting here was just not right.

Tom


I would think that one who professes the love of Jesus Christ would not want to go out and kill anything especially since he does not need it for food. Plenty in the grocery store last I looked.

One thing to be a real guntoting unreligious redneck but killing should not be part of Mr. Huckabee's desire especially for political gain.

His hunting here was just not right.

Tom


Let's get honest here. Huckabee is not part of the Republican political machine. They have anointed Rudy as the perosn to take on Clinton II. Anybody who has been pheasant hunting and not been hit wil pellts falling out of the sky has not been hunting. As for the reporters, aren't they 25 points each. Lighten up! The politicians think people are too stupid to vote so they control the voters with 30 second spots and lots of Zoloft. A voting country on happy pils. Now that is what I call dangerous.


Okay, you've got a bunch of reporters in a hunting field, with no trees or anything blocking a shot. My question is, does a guy deserve to be president when he can't hit a wide open target? How can we know if Huck when he attacks Iran, doesn't miss and hit Saudia Arabia? I think that is what all the hallabaloo is about. Sure, he will have trained generals responsible for the bombings, but still it makes you wonder.


Chaney shot a lawyer and Huckabee almost got a reporter, I think I'd vote for either one of them.


What kind of idiots follow people around hunting? There's no better way to get shot.


I would never vote for Huckabee, but see several oddities in this claim: 1) Where are the reports from the flock of reporters who were supposedly there?
2) Why does the writer presume Huckabee is one of those who fired over the reporters heads, if anyone did?
3) This blog cites James Oliphant as its only source for the incident. Mr. Oliphant is a reporter, but has not reported the incident. Why would that be?


The more important issue for both Cheney and Huckabee is why do they have to hunt at all while in office or running for office? Take a sabbatical for four to eight years and do not endanger press or secret service or guests. Hunting does not belong with the active service of a president or vice president. Upon retirement, they can go back to their sport.


Come down ten degrees Mike and fire for effect.


I called a Secret Service friend of mine last night who I thought was on that detail. He said he wasn’t there but he had talked to one of the agents who was there and was told that nothing approaching unsafe took place. He said even the camera crew was well away and stayed behind the hunters as directed and he also pointed out that telephoto shots compress range and distort angles, etc.

He also said the press were for the most part clueless about guns and hunting and were being very anal in trying to trap Huckabee into saying something that they could spin.


Thank you for printing this. This does show Huckabee has a problem: normal people don't do this, especially when reporters are present. He is arrogant, in addition to being unqualified for president.
I'm not a hunter, but I shoot guns at the rifle range, and no one I have ever shot with has pulled a stunt like that in front of me.
Looks like an Arkansas yahoo to me.


This was reckless. Is this the kind of president we need?


Fired a blast over the reporter's heads? How far away were they? How high was he shooting? First he says he shot over their heads then says he pointed the shotgun at them. Which is it?

And get a real gun to shoot with. Only a reporter would pretend hunting with a 20 guage shotgun was actually hunting


Golly gee, Bruce (#2 post) it's hard to report "both sides" of a blatant fact.... Switch the channel off FoxNews once in a while.


Mr. Huckabee's macho behavior with his shotgun is very disappointing. Shotguns are very dangerous. Just consider these three people: Cheney's lawyer friend that he shot, Kurt Cobain, and Ernest Hemingway. By the way, if he doesn't get smarter on guns and his Foreign Policy ASAP, he will turn into "Hucka-was".

On second thought, don't you think things like this may Obama look better all the time? I do!

http://www.billslater.com/who_is_barack_obama.htm

Dear Lord, please help Barack Obama win the U.S. presidential election. We need a real leader to run this country.

Regards,

William F. Slater, III
slater@billslater.com
http://billslater.com


Reporters are necessary for democracy, unless you want dictators telling you their propaganda as "news".

Liberals got the 40 hr. week, civil rights, women's rights, etc.


1- i would bet the people commenting on his christianity are mostly jesus haters anyhow..2- the average person doesn't care if a journalist gets hurt...depending on the network or person it could earn him votes.


jim Tankersley, you are such a puss.


A covey of reporters covering a guy going "Hunting" needs to stay the heck out of the way PERIOD.


Even if this report is correct as reported it was beneficial for the journalists; probably the first time many of them have come close to reality.


Change the subject....here is a new one:


Bolton denies he is a Huckabee adviser
By: Lisa Lerer
December 28, 2007 05:24 PM EST

In recent days, Mike Huckabee has tried to answer long-standing questions about who is on his foreign policy team. On Friday morning, he listed former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton as someone with whom he either has “spoken or will continue to speak.”

At a Thursday evening press conference, Huckabee said, "I've corresponded with John Bolton, who's agreed to work with us on developing foreign policy.”

Bolton, however, has a different view. “I’d be happy to speak with Huckabee, but I haven’t spoken with him yet,” said Bolton, now a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank in Washington.

“I’m not an official or unofficial adviser to anyone,” said Bolton, who mentioned he’d had conversations with other Republican candidates but refused to name any names.

Asked to explain Bolton’s comments, Huckabee aides said the former Arkansas governor had e-mailed with Bolton. Bolton did not immediately respond to a request to address Huckabee’s e-mailing claims.

Huckabee said he’d also spoken with former State Department official Richard Haass (now president of the Council on Foreign Relations); military analyst Ken Allard; former National Security Adviser Richard Allen; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; Frank Gaffney, founder of the Center for Security Policy, a conservative think tank; and a “number of military personnel.”

A Gingrich spokesman said the two men had spoken, on an unofficial basis, on Friday.

Council on Foreign Relations spokeswoman Lisa Shields said Haass has “briefed Huckabee on foreign policy issues as well as [briefing] many other candidates” in both parties. Shields stressed that the relationship was not exclusive and that Haass was not affiliated with the campaign.

Allard, Allen and Gaffney could not be immediately reached for comment.


Huckabee argues that foreign policy is less about experience and more about judgment. “The most important thing a president does is to make tough decisions when confronted with a crisis,” he said Friday. “[As a governor], you’ve dealt with the unexpected, a crisis, time and time again.”

The confusion over Bolton, however, is the latest in a growing list of foreign policy hiccups by the Iowa front-runner. And to succeed nationally, Huckabee must broaden support beyond his socially conservative base by proving his competency on issues such as national security.

On Thursday, he commented on the assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, saying the U.S. needs to consider “what impact does it have on whether or not there’s going to be martial law continuing in Pakistan.” Martial law, as it turns out, was lifted two weeks ago.

Huckabee clarified the point later that day. "What I said was, you know, it was not that I was unaware that it was suspended two weeks ago, or lifted two weeks ago. The point was continued: ... Would it be reinstated? Would it be placed back in?" he said.

Huckabee also raised eyebrows Thursday when he said that Bhutto’s death should prompt “an immediate, very clear monitoring of our borders and particularly to make sure if there's any unusual activity of Pakistanis coming into the country.”

And earlier this month, Huckabee said he was unfamiliar with the National Intelligence Estimate reporting that Iran hadn’t had a program to develop nuclear weapons since 2003.

Huckabee’s lack of foreign policy experience has fueled a host of critics. On Thursday, rival Sen. John McCain of Arizona said Bhutto’s assassination highlights Huckabee’s lack of foreign policy experience.

"You know, I don't think it's appropriate to respond in political way," Huckabee said.

Last week, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice denounced Huckabee’s critique of the Bush administration as having a "bunker mentality" when it comes to foreign policy.

"The idea that somehow this is a go-it-alone policy is just simply ludicrous," she said at a State Department news conference. "One would only have to be not observing the facts, let me say that, to say that this is now a go-it-alone foreign policy."

TM & © THE POLITICO & POLITICO.COM, a division of Allbritton Communications Company


The newspaper article does not say that Huckabee fired the shot over the heads of the reporters...it says that the party (someone) did it.

Thank you

W C Wallace


I think he mistook the reporters for (thunder)chickens.


brantl is a liar, liar, pants on fire. Or perhaps very inept at gauging distances. If pheasnts were the bird of choice, then the hunters were likely shooting between #2 to #6 shot size pellets. 75 yards even with magnum loads would have a very difficult time popping even a balloon. I've hunted many types of game birds from giant canada geese to woodcock and quail. All have specific load and charge details to best optimize an efficient pattern along with a lethal killing effect. No way int the world brantl ever killed a pheasant at 75 yards with LEGAL bird shot. Buckshot is NOT LEGAL to use for bird hunting.
Nice try brantl, but it appears you are a lying t@rd!


brantl is a liar, liar, pants on fire. Or perhaps very inept at gauging distances. If pheasnts were the bird of choice, then the hunters were likely shooting between #2 to #6 shot size pellets. 75 yards even with magnum loads would have a very difficult time popping even a balloon. I've hunted many types of game birds from giant canada geese to woodcock and quail. All have specific load and charge details to best optimize an efficient pattern along with a lethal killing effect. No way int the world brantl ever killed a pheasant at 75 yards with LEGAL bird shot. Buckshot is NOT LEGAL to use for bird hunting.
Nice try brantl, but it appears you are a lying t@rd!
Also, what in the world are you doing taking 75 yard shots for? Possibly the most unethical practice I've ever heard anyone admitting to? What a t@rd you must be!


Huckabeast has never met a tax increase he didn't fall in love with. Vote for him and watch him lead into the second great depression. Oh, well, to the evangelicals it's ok as long as it's in the name of Jesus. Or we could vote for Ron Paul and set ourselves free.


Jerry, you beat me to it. brantl is an idiot and pretty slow if he has to wait till the pheasant is 75 yards away before he shoots.


Why so much hatred?


Hey Non-Christians quite "quoting" the Bible. You get it wrong most of the time. It is is something you don't believe so why quote it. Stick to the facts, i.e. how stupid and dangerous it is to shoot a weapon towards someone.


Hey Huckster, did the birds get on the dinner plate to end a hunger your family was feeling, or just into a ditch or dumpster after you did your photo op?

Killing for political gain is just plain sick. See what happened to Vick for killing for sick pleasure, my photo opping little opportunist.


I am a Republican, and the more I see Huckabee, the more I think is flat out right dangerous, not bad -dangerous, He is not president material, heck I wouldn't trust him on a local zoning board.
Jim

His discharging a shotgun over the heads of reporters, for a shot at a pheasant - is shocking. his comments below are revealing.

"Huckabee emerged happily from his hunt, three dead pheasants in tow, Oliphant reports. Asked for a metaphor to describe the hunt, he replied, "Don't get in my way. This is what happens."


Huckabee claims to be a Man of God, yet he kills for sport? What else does he do for "sport"? Torture animals in the name of God?
Anyone who is pro Huckabee is an idot.


Hey you knuckledragging Wingnut goofballs, you're right, the reporters shouldn't have been following around the Huckster while he was doing his little "dog & pheasant show"...in fact the reporters shouldn't be wasting any of their time on any of the sad sack Republican candidates.

Maybe if some of the Wingnut candidates could actually come up with something new and interesting to say that isn't the usual George W Bush part 2 crap, they would be able to attract more than a crowd of 15-20 people to some of their events in Iowa.


Here's the whole video from a left-wing news source:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/26/huckabee.hunt.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest#cnnSTCVideo

The reporters were more like 200 yards away at the closest, and up to 400 yards away at times.

I called a Secret Service friend of mine last night who I thought was on that detail. He said he wasn’t there but he had talked to one of the agents who was there and was told that nothing approaching unsafe took place. He said even the camera crew was well away and stayed behind the hunters as directed and he also pointed out that telephoto shots compress range and distort angles, etc.

He also said the press were for the most part clueless about guns and hunting and were being very anal in trying to trap Huckabee into saying something that they could spin.


Swamp? Who ever heard of hunting pheasant in a swamp?!! This must be fiction...right?! : P


An Oliphant giving a story about a Conservative. Couldn't be left wing whacko Tom Oliphant's kid???? Smear job - hit piece. Screw you left wing jerkoffs.


Hey Jim Tankersley when you went hunting..did you smoke pot? You hippie..stop telling us folks how to hunt. Read your stupid liberal hunting books in the bathroom.


Huckabee kid who tortured a dog in bible camp should be sitting with michael Vick.
huckabee lame excuse that the dog had mange doesnt fly
any more than Vicks lies.
Also remember when Hillary wanted to poison the squirells when she lived at the white house?
I think Ill vote for Rudy. He may go through a lot of wives but at least he doesnt take his anger out on animals.


These press people are all a bunch of gun wimps!


I called a Secret Service friend of mine last night who I thought was on that detail. He said he wasn’t there but he had talked to one of the agents who was there and was told that nothing approaching unsafe took place. He said even the camera crew was well away and stayed behind the hunters as directed and he also pointed out that telephoto shots compress range and distort angles, etc.
He also said the press were for the most part clueless about guns and hunting and were being very anal in trying to trap Huckabee into saying something that they could spin.

Posted by: John Gillespie | December 28, 2007 11:04 PM

You called a Secret Service friend of yours?, really? does this guy live in your basement along with your Ann Coulter blowup doll?

I hate to break it to you numnuts but Huckabee doesn't have a Secret Service detail.

You Republican morons make me laugh, the current reality sucks for you so you dream up a new reality and claim it is fact.

You nuts need to quit listening that fat pig oxycontin addict Rush so much..


Troop: right on brother we have served or are serving always are smarter than the suits. Simply because they have never been there(both the clintons)and they never will be either.John E. shut your libturd dummyrat piehole you nazi freak.


re: comment by Dick Cheney 12_27 @ 1:32PM is classic troll tripe.
snip>
It's hunters like Huckleberry that give the rest of us a bad name.


I still haven't found where in the story it says Huckabee fired at or near anyone. The story was more about "look how cool I am. I'm a reporter doing a hit piece on a republican". Many of you anti or just plain non hunters really expose yourselves as ignorant fools to those of us who know something about hunting. And the diferences pertaining to the type of weapons used for the appropriate game. I suspect that many in Iowa are aware of all the inaccuracies and improbablities injected into this story just to cast Huckabee in a negative light.
Tankersly is clearly nothing more than a lowly hack. I'd love to take him hunting and have him show me his mad skills.


For the record, when you say "buck shot" when talking about pheasant hunting, you sound like an idiot to any hunter. Buck-shot is use to shoot deer, hence buck (a male deer). We usually use somewhere from 4-6 shot for upland game. Smaller or close to a BB. 75 yards will feel like rain drops coming down. 75 yards strait at you will likely not reach you (check ballistic web sites) due to gravity and decelleration. It is bad form, however to shoot towards anyone, ever. It is simply tackey and foolish for anyone to mess with another person's hunt, as the media did. Wait back at the lodge and have a soy-milk latte or whatever.

As far as an evangelical's view of mormanism. It is a simple view of salvation. Evangelicals use Ephesians 2:8-9 which says that salvation is from grace; a gift from God and not of one's works (which is the assertion of the entire Bible). Mormanism claims that Salvation is from God but one must continue to earn it through "works". They also have claims of the continuance of a living prophet as the active mouthpiece of God Himself. A long time ago, people had a problem with Catholics due to their loyalty to the Pope in Rome who could (but never has in history) speak ex cathedra - speak for God. Evangelicals hold that God has revealed himself fully through His revealed Word which is Genesis through Revelations. The book of Morman to them then is apocryphal at best or heresy at worst. However, no evangelical should truly advocate anything but love to another person including the mormans just as they would for anyone else. That doesn't mean we are wimps, we just trust our Lord to deal with the soul and heart and He trusts us to tell them of Him.

And as for you who think us'n evangelicals are a bunch of rubes - do you remember the "big-bang theory"? You have to admit, it takes an unbeleivable amount of "faith" to belive some of the crazy stuff you have believed in the past few decades. My particular favorite is the from goo to you theory. Simply comical but desperate. We choose to think the most well preserved work of writing in the world has some validity. You keep reinventing with the claim that all real knowledge has been discovered in the past 50 or so years. To God it must look like my eight year old telling me he "knows it". I love you but really, is this just all one big accident? All of nature points to decay but somehow we continue to advance?

The good news is that even when we disown Him and refuse Him, He still loves you. Ask Him yourself. Find out why He would ask His Son to die for you. He will answer. Of course He has answered it in the Bible too.


Hey John E...It's NUMBNUTS!

What a dork you must feel like right now. Trying to intelligently insult a whole group of people only to find out you're to stupid to spell the insult. Very nice! I also have a friend who is a retired secret service agent. Actually he's more of an aqaintance. He's not famous though. He and his wife were never on the cover of people magazine. And there are no blow up dolls in my basement...just those photos of your sister with those awful sores on her lips. I work for a major communication utility company. And everytime a campaining presidential candidate comes to town, we set up the communications for the event. And EVERYONE of them had secret service staff armed and on site at every location a scheduled stop was made.
God you must feel stupid!!!


Jim Tankersley please stop your whining. Just another attempt of a lib taking a shot (pun intended at a Rebulican). Always something for you folks to piss on about.


CNN has a 13 minute video of the hunt. What was described in this article never happened.

This second-hand report (actually third-hand) is a typical media non-story.


Let's see, only conservatives and republicans want war.
WWI Woodrow W. Dem
WWII Franklin D. Dem
Korea Harry S Dem
Vietnam JFK & LBJ Dem
And for that real "fun fest", the Civil War, started by the Democrat Leaders of the South Carolina State Militia in open rebellion. Now with a total of about one million Americans dead at the hands of the democrats they claim that they are they are anti-war party, HA.


What the heck? Did Huckabee grab a copy of Kerry's Campaign book? It didn't work for Kerry. It is stupid for any candidate to look like a "good ole boy" and go huntin' in the middle of a tight campaign. Then bring the press with you as a media event. Huckabee might be a man of faith, and a man of morals. But wouldn't you rather hear what Huckabee's plans are for a better tomorrow? I'd rather hear Huckabee's plan on Immigration, the economy, Education, Environment, or taxes. I have no clue what he stands for.

If the candidates keep pulling stunts out of the Kerry Campaign playbook.. (Bash Bash bash, Telling us they have a plan but we have no idea what the plan is.. You will see Ron Paul take the nomination for GOP. He may not be the candidate I totally agree with.. BUT..with Paul I know what I am getting..

I have no idea what these clowns stand for when they spend half the day bashing the President of their own party,bashing other Republican candidates, telling us they have a better plan but the voter has no idea what the plan is.

What a bunch of jokers. Kerry's playbook doesn't work. Kerry lost.


Huckabee has proven himself to be a moron pandering to the morons in Iowa.


I'm sorry, I forgot that Huckabee can not have any fun when he is looking to be elected. If we can't shoot any of God's creatures, then how did Adam and Eve eat? Hunting in a humane way is not at all going against the Bible. You people get a life and let the guy have some fun.


How did we get on the subject of "Moremans" anyway? Huckleberry is simply a true Gomer who believes it to be his job as a "Christian" governor to show mercy to everyone, including those who go out and rape and kill again, once their Come to Jesus has worn off. An executive's sworn duty is to the law, to exact it, so that innocent people are protected. That to me is the more Christian thing to do anyway. This latest misfire by Gomer Pyle simply shows his lack of sound judgment.


"Mr. Huckabee, how would Jesus feel about killing God's creatures for pleasure?

Posted by: Paul | December 27, 2007 1:17 PM"

Umm... I believe that Jesus, aka: God, placed animals on earth for Man to eat. It also happens to be fun to hunt. Maybe you should go hunting sometime... read the Bible while you are out there--downtime is plentiful.


Sweetness For President!


First, if you are in Iowa during pheasant season, and you are a hunter, you go hunting. Why do we want to question motives for every little thing that people do? Here in Iowa, people take vacation based on the hunting seasons. One would assume that if Huck hunts at all, someone would drag him out hunting.

Second, if hunting did not happen in Iowa, many more people would die on the roads. Iowa is mostly long stretches of road without enough traffic to keep the game away. We are so overrun with game animals(especially deer) that just about everyone eventually gets into a wreck caused by game animals sooner or later. Everyone should come to Iowa and kill something. Think "Save a family, bag a buck".

Lastly, Rush and all are lying when they claim that Huckabee is engaging primarily in identity politics. Huckabee is not running primarily as a Christian in Iowa. He certainly is not shy about his faith, but he is more suggesting that his faith is a motivating factor, not an identity that other Christians need to rally to. In other words, he is explaining what he believes in, and how it will effect his policy. Is Rush (or Romney for that matter) engaging in indentity politics when they claim to be conservatives, and that all conservative shoudl rally to them?

Instead, Huck is running on tax reform, immigration reform, a strong military, and a change in the tone of the Republican party. Since everyone else is running on all of the same issues (I would suggest with similar promises that do not match their history either!) but the change in tone, I guess that is what may be causing people to pay attention to him.


clearly this is a case of trying to manufacture a Cheney type hunting event.

Its tail wagging the dog stuff.


Sweetness,

Your post concerning salvation and Mormons is off. We also believe you are saved by the grace of god. The way it is said by "grace you are saved after all you can do".

Paul said: “For by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast” (Eph: 2:8, 9).

James said “Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead being alone. (James 2:17).

I would say that god would force no man to heaven and faith is grown by life's ups and downs. Empty works does not faith build.

There are of course other tenets which you would not agree on.


But Politics is about finding the common ground.

Seeing Mike Huckabee in brand new hunting clothes, shooting a few birds is nice. But, where is the real meat of what he will do as president. We know what his record was in Arkansas. He is in my view a republican Jimmy Carter.

Seeing through the smoke and mirrors of all of the candidates is the name of the game.


"The Huckster needs to pretend like he's a bigtime hunter because fake acts like this seem to impress the stupid Republicans.

They're the same way with wars, the Rethuglicans love them and always push for them...as long as someone elses family and friends do the actual real fighting."

This is not true. As a hunter, and Republican this does NOT impress us at all. Actually it ticks us off.


oh bruce (12/27/07, 1:11 pm)!

oliphant's is an eye-witness account. he does not need to search for second-source confirmation.

you daddy mighta been what you said, but you shoulda learned from him. it's not about genetics.


The photo shows only one person in the press entourage wearing orange. Lots of brown and tan and dark clothes.

According to IHEA's site, you should follow your state's requirements for wearing orange."

Perhaps the reporter should go talk to Iowa's Steve Dermand about how stupid those reporters were for not wearing orange.


Good article. Maybe it is time a few reporters were shot at due to how poorly they have been doing as of late. Ya ever go hunting and have some group of idiots trailing you? I think the press should have sat this one out so the guy could actually enjoy his hunt. The reporters got just what they deserved for harrassing a hunter. Too bad he didn't hit few from the left!


Gotta give it to old Mike on this one. He just proved that there's more than one way to be a bad aim.


There is a lawyer, journalist, gun joke here somewhere


the hucksters running for the
wrong office,seems to me the way he handles a shotgun hed
be a shoein for V.P.


Any presidential candidate that has to kill animals or birds to get publicity is a sick individual. All the preaching in the world does not save him from being a terrible candidate.


Huckabee did this purely for political reasons. Sure your not suppose to point your guns in the direction of people, even if they are those leftwing nut reporters.
Huck had lost momentum when he attacked Bush for being ignorant, then allowed Rollins to attack Rush Limbaugh. With this incident he may have jump started his campaign and regained the momentum he had been loosing since the Bush/Rush remarks.
I noticed how the mainstream media hasn't been covering this incident because they know that would sew up a win for Huckabee in Iowa.


Huckabee did this purely for political reasons. Sure your not suppose to point your guns in the direction of people, even if they are those leftwing nut reporters.
Huck had lost momentum when he attacked Bush for being ignorant, then allowed Rollins to attack Rush Limbaugh. With this incident he may have jump started his campaign and regained the momentum he had been loosing since the Bush/Rush remarks.
I noticed how the mainstream media hasn't been covering this incident because they know that would sew up a win for Huckabee in Iowa.


Did he have a State Hunting License?


Character reveals itself in the the little decisions, as well as the big. No matter the reason, you NEVER point or fire in the direction of something you do not intend to shoot. Then, to have someone justify their actions for doing so, by saying, "don't get in my way, that's what happens" tells me all I need to know. You just got a glimpse of this one-liners REAL heart.


How would Jesus have reported this story? Back in the day, when people had ethics, this would have been libelous. These days when can just call this story a cheap shot.


Man shall have dominion over all the creatures of the earth, and shall kill them for political photo ops.


huckleberry is a joke and I'm embarassed he calls himself a republican


I love it! We all know that the pen is mightier than the sword (and gun). The author "shoots" a point blank head shot at Huckabee without even proving that Huckabee even raised his gun. We need pen control now!! It's getting dangerous out there! There's going to be pen-play in the streets!


to bad the jerk didnt shot himself...


The ‘love of money’ Psychopath in Chief also wanted to remind Americans on behalf of WalMart that Santa died on a plastic Chinese made cross for their post Christmas Mastercard/creditcard debt. As the mischaracterization of 9/11 as a ‘holy’ moment against sinless corporate oil America finally fades into the background of reality as an actually understood ‘reap what you sow event’ for 60+ years of MiddleEast British/American Empire, the Eagel Forum wanted to inform us that the same evangelicals that sold us on Dubya are now wanting to sell us Mike ‘Huckster’ Huckabee and the WalMart gospel tunes he carries. Multinational Global Labor Arbitrage and Western oil interests are meaningless and missing again this Christmas season in the Southern Baptist Convention ‘love of money’ defaulted Biblical expression on behalf of the Bush/Walton/Irving Texas slobs. All under the blood right Huckster?
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Wow... holy crap. Um...

As a veteran and a gun owner, the flippant attitudes towards hunting safety, not to mention downright immoral statements such as "reporters ain't human" and implying that Huckabee missing the reporters was the real crime... well, you idiotic "kill 'em all" mouth-breathing douchebags are why liberals are afraid of gun owners. Most of us are reasonable, safe and value human life. It's the folks that think of their guns as an extension of their cocks that are the real problem.


One more comment... you folks that are ragging on the reporters for being along on the hunt are acting like they crashed his hunting party. This was a photo-op campaign activity, not some dude going hunting and having a gaggle of reporters crowding around him. If he wanted to just go hunting, it wouldn't be difficult to find a place to do so without 'company'. Instead, the reporters were invited to show how redneck homey this guy is. Just as fake as any other candidate 'hunting' for the cameras.


I don't need a reporter to tell me Huckabee is dangerous and probably inexperienced with a weapon. The film showed him violating primary gun safety rules. He should go sit in the truck and shut up. The reporters should refuse to cover these photo ops. Pete


Message to Mike Huckabee:

The Second Amendment has precious little to do with hunting.


That's one hell of a way to disregard the 4 rules.


What would Jesus do? He certainly would not go and kill animals simply because "it's fun". Who was it that said "Thou shall not kill"?

Posted by: JohnS | December 28, 2007 2:38 PM

I believe the correct translation would be, "Thou shall not murder."


This proves nothing, the main is just plain in capable of being our president.

My vote is firmly with Ron Paul, he is gonna shock a lot of folks in this country with more big wins. (ie. IA & NH)


Confident, Cocky, Dead.


The most disturbing element of Hucklebee's candidacy for President is that so many Americans take it seriously. Sadly, there are a whole lot of voters just like him ......... perhaps too many?

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken


I agree with you the blogger and the posters here. People like Huckabee are why I gave up gun-hunting.
Recklessness leads to deaths- visit any rural hospital during hunting season and see how many people are in there due to a "lack of gun control".
What if the pheasant had jumped an few feet in front of a reporter? Would Huck have held fire? Or would we have another Cheney incident?


Tax Hike Mike hucklbee is a poser and a neocon faggot. I don't care if he has NRA tattooed on his forehead, he's still a mexican loving traitor and a waste of American money.


'Pulling a Cheney' pun intended. The story would probably be alot different if the tables were turned I imagine. Moral of the story: Don't trust a republican carrying a shotgun. Journalists you have been warned. Wait till all their shells are spent.


So, he had his Bill Clinton moment on Leno playing his GeeTarr (Bill with the Sax on arsenio hall)

Now the John Kerry moment (hunting geese)...

He has had the David Duke moment with the anti-catholic, anti-mormon bigotry...

He had the dukakis moment of helping to parole a rapist who later murdered a woman while out (willie horton weekend furlows)

He has another Kerry moment flip/flop/flip I will not attack my opponent personally, but if I would, this is what I would say, and here I am on a video saying it, but I won't play it on tv, you will (for the record, it did air in Davenport and elsewhere and Huckabilly's campaign paid for it)

Huck wants to give scholarships to adult illegal alien college students, just like Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy.

Huck? what the duck?


We have already, through our immorality and bigotry, created enemies in the Middle East. Why should we do the same with Latin America? It is time we realized that our protection and domination of politics in the Western Hemisphere demands that we also open up opportunities for individuals in that region. I support Huckabee's decision in Arkansas, but I do not agree with building a Berlin Wall in Texas.


Wow! some of these comments from retardlicunt fascists sure do show what a dangerous time this is.


Romney just quit !

I have to say, I took gun safety class, and my Father hammered the safety issues home.

It's clear this occasion was a violation of safety regulations.


No candidate goes hunting without KNOWING reporters will be there.

Good hunters don't fire toward another party, ever. If a bird flushes between two parties, let it fly until it's out of the crossfire zone.


As to the guy who said the reporters were in fault for getting in the way;

In this situation nobody knows where the pheasant will flush, so obviously you can't criticize anyone for being in the wrong place.

It's the hunter's responsibility to observe safety regs, not bystanders.

What I find most disturbing is the outright hatred so many have posted against journalists.

I am a Christian, and I don't think Christ would approve of this attitude.

Maybe Conservatives hate journalists the same way cockroaches hate sunlight.


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